This phone is HOT - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

It's too hot to hold right now. I walked around my workplace and lost 4g. Nothing is running on the phone. I've lost 20% battery in the past half hour. Something is wrong :/
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Turned phone of for 10 mins. Battery dropped from 26% to 16% between restarts. 4g is back, heat is gone. What could be the issue? I know this phone has been having problems on Verizon's 4g network
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Not really worth posting... you are doing something to cause the cpu to run crazy.. the only time i have ever got it hot is in games or if im tethering for any extended period of time. Battery life will suffer horribly from this.. so far ive been able to drain this 2100mah Battery within 6 hours. Dont posts pointless babble plz.
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It's possible the tower you're connected to is having issues, causing you to drop back to 3G which might also be having issues, causing your phone to fight for a signal.
Loss of signal makes everything go nuts on a phone. It pumps up the antennae to try and hold on to any signal it can see. This also increases the drain on the battery which generates heat on it's own.
In certain stores, I have to turn my phone completely off (sometimes I can get away with just turning off mobile data), as even maintaining a voice channel is running everything at full blast, murdering the battery and scorching me (not really, but it's still hot).
The phone's SOC should have a safety switch that will force it to power off if it gets TOO hot. Unfortunately for our comfort, too hot for electronics is MUCH higher than too hot for our skin.

Lemonhead8890 said:
Not really worth posting... you are doing something to cause the cpu to run crazy.. the only time i have ever got it hot is in games or if im tethering for any extended period of time. Battery life will suffer horribly from this.. so far ive been able to drain this 2100mah Battery within 6 hours. Dont posts pointless babble plz.
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What a wonderfully constructive post. My phone has been idle and doing this. Please re read the op.
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AlexDeGruven said:
It's possible the tower you're connected to is having issues, causing you to drop back to 3G which might also be having issues, causing your phone to fight for a signal.
Loss of signal makes everything go nuts on a phone. It pumps up the antennae to try and hold on to any signal it can see. This also increases the drain on the battery which generates heat on it's own.
In certain stores, I have to turn my phone completely off (sometimes I can get away with just turning off mobile data), as even maintaining a voice channel is running everything at full blast, murdering the battery and scorching me (not really, but it's still hot).
The phone's SOC should have a safety switch that will force it to power off if it gets TOO hot. Unfortunately for our comfort, too hot for electronics is MUCH higher than too hot for our skin.
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yes this is what I have been thinking. Although sometimes I will lose 4g until I restart my device. I think it's somewhat of a software issue over a network problem.
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cmg5461 said:
What a wonderfully constructive post. My phone has been idle and doing this. Please re read the op.
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cmg5461 said:
Please re read the op.
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cmg5461 said:
re read the op.
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re read
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read
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Reading is hard, apparently.

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Reading is hard, apparently.
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Agreed. I think the problem is along the lines of 4G dropping and the phone is trying to reconnect to it with no success. Is this debug info in the logcat?

cmg5461 said:
Agreed. I think the problem is along the lines of 4G dropping and the phone is trying to reconnect to it with no success. Is this debug info in the logcat?
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It could be. I've never personally had occasion to pull a logcat, so I'm not sure what kind of information gets stored in there.

My phone also did this yesterday while idling except, I did lose 4G, it just wouldn't charge cause it said it was too hot and felt like it just came out of the oven (ofcourse it was mid 90's here yesterday) but IMO still shouldn't get that hot when not in use.

The information about signal should be available in logcat.
My GNex would do this. It would struggle to find a signal and heat up significantly as a result. Battery life suffered. This would happen in my office, but not at home where I have a better 4G signal.
Switching to WiFi at the office helped, but was not really a solution to the problem which certainly can occur when you don't have WiFi available.
As a note the GS3 doesn't do this for me, so it appears that the radios are better in this device. Doesn't help you much, but hey, it could be worse I guess.

AlexDeGruven said:
It's possible the tower you're connected to is having issues, causing you to drop back to 3G which might also be having issues, causing your phone to fight for a signal.
Loss of signal makes everything go nuts on a phone. It pumps up the antennae to try and hold on to any signal it can see. This also increases the drain on the battery which generates heat on it's own.
In certain stores, I have to turn my phone completely off (sometimes I can get away with just turning off mobile data), as even maintaining a voice channel is running everything at full blast, murdering the battery and scorching me (not really, but it's still hot).
The phone's SOC should have a safety switch that will force it to power off if it gets TOO hot. Unfortunately for our comfort, too hot for electronics is MUCH higher than too hot for our skin.
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This happened with my Fascinate.. where it had died due to running out of juice. And wouldn't turn back on or even charge with the in car charger due to Texas heat being 104 Degrees scorching at that time.. -__-". Had gotten an error temperature message with phone will not turn on/charge due to temperature too high risk...

My phone runs hot too when using it in low signal areas.. It also burns through battery like crazy..
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Hypnosis4U2NV said:
My phone runs hot too when using it in low signal areas.. It also burns through battery like crazy..
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All phones do this. There's a local grocery store that I swear uses a cell jammer, you get 20ft through the doors and a full 4G signal drops to nothing, not even 1xRtt, not even voice or sms. All throughout the store, until you walk out the door, then wide open signal again. I have seen my battery go down like 80% in an hour in there until I figured it out and started putting it in airplane mode when I go there.
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I have 2 bars of 3G service in my home and the phone eats that battery up.. Wish the radio was better, you would think after 2 generations of Galaxy S's and the Nexus they would get that right with the phone at this point..
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neyenlives said:
All phones do this. There's a local grocery store that I swear uses a cell jammer, you get 20ft through the doors and a full 4G signal drops to nothing, not even 1xRtt, not even voice or sms. All throughout the store, until you walk out the door, then wide open signal again. I have seen my battery go down like 80% in an hour in there until I figured it out and started putting it in airplane mode when I go there.
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Most buildings like grocery stores and such are built with steel framing, rather than the wood that gets used in regular houses. This creates a faraday cage effect when you walk through the doors. Depending on the construction, it can be very strong and effectively block most signal from getting in.
I have also seen this effect in manufactured homes/trailers, as they tend to use steel framing rather than wood.

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Most buildings like grocery stores and such are built with steel framing, rather than the wood that gets used in regular houses. This creates a faraday cage effect when you walk through the doors. Depending on the construction, it can be very strong and effectively block most signal from getting in.
I have also seen this effect in manufactured homes/trailers, as they tend to use steel framing rather than wood.
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It's the only building anywhere around here that is that dramatic of a change. Every other grocery store or mall or home or office I have a 4G signal.
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At work we have a modular trailer and I get no service once I step inside.. And if you ever go to warehouses like Home Depot or Costco, the signal drops significantly..
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Yes it's all do to the radio. Those of us, in a fringe area have to suffer tthrew this. If I'm at my house I can get 4G upstairs and 1x in the basement. This causes the phones battery to drain much faster and cause great issues. I recommend using a different kernel if you are comfortable with it. Also use deadline/smartass . It takes some tweaking, but it will help. No matter what we do we have to face the fact that 4G devices kill battery life.Your not going to get no more then 4 hours screen on time. I love the phone don't get me wrong but the only all day battery phone is the MAXX. I have one also and Motorola s radios are killer lol I wish I could stick my MAXX radios in this baby Another thing its download CPU spy , see if your phone is actually sleeping. It could be a rouge app , contributing to the problems to. I just picked up a 4500mah extended battery , it was the best 30 bucks I ever spent. Good luck and let us know if it was anything else then software related.
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dirtydroidx said:
Yes it's all do to the radio. Those of us, in a fringe area have to suffer tthrew this. If I'm at my house I can get 4G upstairs and 1x in the basement. This causes the phones battery to drain much faster and cause great issues. I recommend using a different kernel if you are comfortable with it. Also use deadline/smartass . It takes some tweaking, but it will help. No matter what we do we have to face the fact that 4G devices kill battery life.Your not going to get no more then 4 hours screen on time. I love the phone don't get me wrong but the only all day battery phone is the MAXX. I have one also and Motorola s radios are killer lol I wish I could stick my MAXX radios in this baby Another thing its download CPU spy , see if your phone is actually sleeping. It could be a rouge app , contributing to the problems to. I just picked up a 4500mah extended battery , it was the best 30 bucks I ever spent. Good luck and let us know if it was anything else then software related.
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Plenty of us here can pull more than 4 hours of screen-on time in a single charge.

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My Battery Life Report - Feedback Welcomed

So I have been using Juice Defender Ultimate for a couple of days and also measuring stats with Juice Plotter.
My experience thus far has been that the addition of JDU hasn't really changed my stats. I would say it has helped slightly... At the end of an 8 hour day I am usually at around 65% I average approximately 4% battery drain per hour mostly with the screen off since I don't typically do much on my phone while at work. I'm sure the battery stats will improve with the addition of custom ROMs but was wondering if the 4% decrease per hour was pretty much standard across the board.
I happen to like the battery performance thus far but will admit that my Cappy was providing me with a remaining percentage of around 75% after an 8 hour day. Of course, that Cappy was on Gingerbread with a super tweaked rom that took advantage of every little ounce of conservativity. There really isn't much difference between 65 & 75 but I thought I would throw it out there to see what you all are experiencing.
Thoughts?
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So I have been using Juice Defender Ultimate for a couple of days and also measuring stats with Juice Plotter.
My experience thus far has been that the addition of JDU hasn't really changed my stats. I would say it has helped slightly... At the end of an 8 hour day I am usually at around 65% I average approximately 4% battery drain per hour mostly with the screen off since I don't typically do much on my phone while at work. I'm sure the battery stats will improve with the addition of custom ROMs but was wondering if the 4% decrease per hour was pretty much standard across the board.
I happen to like the battery performance thus far but will admit that my Cappy was providing me with a remaining percentage of around 75% after an 8 hour day. Of course, that Cappy was on Gingerbread with a super tweaked rom that took advantage of every little ounce of conservativity. There really isn't much difference between 65 & 75 but I thought I would throw it out there to see what you all are experiencing.
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Get an HTC Inspire, you'll be down to 20% before lunch time, hehe. That was my last phone, was horrid. What's bad about 65% left after a full day? That sounds amazing to me... means you can go 3 days before recharge!
Actually when I uninstall JDU my battery last longer.
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To me using juice defender I pointless. No data while phone is in standby? 2000 called, it wants its phone back.
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it doesnt work for sure i had it and unistalled it its really pointless.
ive been giving my phone a really ward time this past week for the sole reason that my ipod got sent in to Apple Care. so its my main device for music and pandora and what not.
but like 4pm im down to like 40someish
not bad really the atrix would have of giving out bye then
and i try to use my Data alot with out wifi just for the hell of it because i got unlimited... lol
cmjkxa said:
To me using juice defender I pointless. No data while phone is in standby? 2000 called, it wants its phone back.
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LMFAO! (hehe since you brought up 2000 I thought I'd give a 2000 acronym too, haha).
A++++ for the post tho, hehe
LOL @ some of these replies! Ok. I'll explain why I use JDU. I work in an area that's on the outskirts of AT&T's nearest tower. If am on the outer edges of the building, my service is so so. If I am in my office, which is more interior, my service is off & on. As soon as I walk outside, my service is decent. So, until AT&T increases their presence near our building, I will be faced with a dilemma. The radio on the phone will struggle to lock onto a signal all day long. Depending on where I am in the building, it can get really bad. This constant effort to acquire signal equates to increased battery drain. When I first purchased the Infuse on 5/20, I went back to work that afternoon and my battery had drained from 100% to 40% in less than 4 hours. I had experienced this with my Captivate so I knew it had to be the constant struggle to obtain signal.
The thing I really like about Superpower Beta (which I used and loved on my Cappy), Green Power, and JDU is that they are able to halt that constant struggle when the screen is off (as it is 90% of my time at work). This equates to a much more civilized battery drain. I suppose if I worked in a place where I always had 4 bars this wouldn't even be an issue. Hopefully this explains why I use it. Although JDU probably doesn't do much to "save" battery per say, I think it's invaluable in the way it cuts the communication when the screen is off which in my situation saves battery. I still get phone calls and text messages without issue (depending on where I am in the building). I also have it set to allow data for 5 minutes ever hour which helps.
Wow.. I got a little long winded..
bella92108 said:
Get an HTC Inspire, you'll be down to 20% before lunch time, hehe. That was my last phone, was horrid. What's bad about 65% left after a full day? That sounds amazing to me... means you can go 3 days before recharge!
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hahah.. True man. 65% is pretty decent. I'm just looking for comparisons.
b3asty said:
LOL @ some of these replies! Ok. I'll explain why I use JDU. I work in an area that's on the outskirts of AT&T's nearest tower. If am on the outer edges of the building, my service is so so. If I am in my office, which is more interior, my service is off & on. As soon as I walk outside, my service is decent. So, until AT&T increases their presence near our building, I will be faced with a dilemma. The radio on the phone will struggle to lock onto a signal all day long. Depending on where I am in the building, it can get really bad. This constant effort to acquire signal equates to increased battery drain. When I first purchased the Infuse on 5/20, I went back to work that afternoon and my battery had drained from 100% to 40% in less than 4 hours. I had experienced this with my Captivate so I knew it had to be the constant struggle to obtain signal.
The thing I really like about Superpower Beta (which I used and loved on my Cappy), Green Power, and JDU is that they are able to halt that constant struggle when the screen is off (as it is 90% of my time at work). This equates to a much more civilized battery drain. I suppose if I worked in a place where I always had 4 bars this would even be an issue. Hopefully this explains why I use it. Although JDU probably doesn't do much to "save" battery per say, I think it's invaluable in the way it cuts the communication when the screen is off which in my situation saves battery. I still get phone calls and text messages without issue (depending on where I am in the building). I also have it set to allow data for 5 minutes ever hour which helps.
Wow.. I got a little long winded..
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well you see there are special cases where this would be useful aka yours but for us that have signal available turning data on and off i every time i get a text seems pointless doesn't it? it only consumes more energy
Transformer27 said:
well you see there are special cases where this would be useful aka yours but for us that have signal available turning data on and off i every time i get a text seems pointless doesn't it? it only consumes more energy
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Tru Tru!
some benfit others jsut need to chill out and dont worry bout your battery. i found that with the atrix i didnt download a app to tell me how many percentage i had left i would worry about it and it seemed like i lasted a life time.
and im doing the same with the Infuse...
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some benfit others jsut need to chill out and dont worry bout your battery. i found that with the atrix i didnt download a app to tell me how many percentage i had left i would worry about it and it seemed like i lasted a life time.
and im doing the same with the Infuse...
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I agree. The percentage makes me sweat every percentage hehe.
yeah i realized it with the atrix.
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yeah i realized it with the atrix.
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they need to make an app that lies to me and says my battery is always fuller than it is cause to see it ticking down just puts me into panic, haha
bahahah! no that is really pointless.
app: you have 98%
reality: 4%
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bahahah! no that is really pointless.
app: you have 98%
reality: 4%
lol
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I know, I need to see a shrink, hehe
bella92108 said:
I agree. The percentage makes me sweat every percentage hehe.
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I agree, looking at the battery makes a sour smell. Lol
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I don't worry about the battery so much as I do charge time... I like to put it on the charger after lunch at work... Even with just over 50 percent it takes almost 4 hours to charge...
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garak0410 said:
I don't worry about the battery so much as I do charge time... I like to put it on the charger after lunch at work... Even with just over 50 percent it takes almost 4 hours to charge...
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yeah it's so strange that it takes so long to charge.... wish there was a way to get around that. I'm actually thinking of buying one of those external battery chargers and using it to charge the batteries.
Just get a higher output charger, they have a few at radioshack
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[Q] Anyone notice crazy battery drain when signal is spotty?

I'm currently out at a client site, but it's super bad reception here in the conference room they stuck us in. First of all, no 4G in colorado springs, so i disabled LTE, and hit CDMA in the network settings.
3G is near impossible inside, so i usually get 1X, and voice connection is next to impossible also.
So i noticed that from unplugging in the morning at 7:30am. at around 2pm, my battery was already down to 10%!
And i didn't even use it.
I did see from my battery usage, that Android system was ABOVE screen in power usage.
Anyone have the same issue?
I've had the same problem with EVERY phone ever, even non-smartphones have this problem. The lower the signal, the more the phone will scan for a good signal. If it has no service, it scans very frequently. If you're on a smartphone, it's even worse because then when the phone does get service, all the data apps attempt to use what little bandwidth you do have all at once. If you're in an area with poor coverage, put your phone into download mode or disable the data connection. Nothing short of putting a network extender or new tower will solve this.
Yes, but this is typical of most phones really. Searching for a signal, acquiring it, losing it, etc, uses a lot of battery. You just have to disable data. If there is wifi available, then use that, if not, just have to wait until you go outside. I have no reception in my building at work, if I leave data on, my battery is dead in a couple hours, on wifi I can go all day
Yes and my phone got very hot in my pocket at the time as well.
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I'm currently out at a client site, but it's super bad reception here in the conference room they stuck us in. First of all, no 4G in colorado springs, so i disabled LTE, and hit CDMA in the network settings.
3G is near impossible inside, so i usually get 1X, and voice connection is next to impossible also.
So i noticed that from unplugging in the morning at 7:30am. at around 2pm, my battery was already down to 10%!
And i didn't even use it.
I did see from my battery usage, that Android system was ABOVE screen in power usage.
Anyone have the same issue?
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I have this issue at work. I get anwhere from 10-15% battery drain an hour. I have determined that it is NOT because of the data signal though becuase I can turn that off and still get about the same excessive drain. It appears to be because of the voice signal. It varies anywhere from -85dm to -115dbm and is constantly changing. When I get outside of work environment, everthing is fine again and battery usage returns to normal. My Droid X did not have this issue.
-115db? How do you have signal at that rating? lol. Phone gets to about 1 bar when it reaches 101 for me.
I have the same issue in my office. I just barely get voice/text service. My solution is to turn off mobile data and plug my phone in to balance out the battery drain from the weak signal. I know it is bad to have my phone plugged in all of the time but it is better to be able to have sms and not have a dead phone when I am done at work.
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-115db? How do you have signal at that rating? lol. Phone gets to about 1 bar when it reaches 101 for me.
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Yeah. Tell me about it. I am using Mobile Signal Widget to measure this. When It gets that bad, a little android face appears in the widget and it is crying.
YES! easily drains 10-15% an hour at a local pub that has 1 bar of signal.
It makes perfect sense... Your phone is fighting hard for that signal.
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I drive 50+ miles to get to work and I always notice it drains a lot during my commute even when not used. I figured it was because of all the cell site swaps and searches bc I'm sure there's some spotty areas.
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Same experience. Dropped to 5% in 9 hours yesterday when I forgot to turn off data while at work. Today, I'm still at 75% after 9 hours with data off.
Juice defender solved this on my fascinate. It turned data on only once every 30 minutes. But, I can't get it to turn my data back on with this phone.
I really wish data signal aggressiveness was managed better by the operating system. It could be a real boon to the average battery life. Perhaps a smart developer could come up with some sort of "conservative" governor for 3g/4g connections. Rather than increasing power draw, it could just "sleep" until a stronger signal is detected... Imnuts? Is this even possible or just a pipedream?
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I can't reach my dad on his cell phone while at the pentagon for obvious reasons. He has to turn his phone off during the day or it'll die in a few short hours, as a previous poster mentioned searching for a signal is a huge battery drain.
Strange. I did not have this problem with my OG Doid or Droid X in the same environment. Maybe the Moto phones simply have a better radio than the Charge.
Yeah for some reason, the samsung radio are junk. I have my Droid Charge (personal) and an Lg phone (business) and the lg blows the sammy out of the water. Now i am in 3g fringe (forget about 4g), and the sammy loses data all together while my lg still has the signal. I hate when i am trying to search for something on the charge and it says connection failed or network unavailable retry. Even when i call verizon, they all have me do a reset and stuff, and nothing works. The best answer i get is that iam in a 3g fringe area. When i tell them that my lg works and still has signal, all i get is silence or hmmmmmm. Gota love it. Yes they exchanged the phone with a new one and it still does the same thing. Forget about battery life. I actually carry 3 batteries with me and on a good day i only use 2 but usually it is 3. Before anyone says use wifi, unfortunatly we do not have free wifi where i work. anyway that should not be the answer to this problem. We are paying for a service that i can barely use.
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Strange. I did not have this problem with my OG Doid or Droid X in the same environment. Maybe the Moto phones simply have a better radio than the Charge.
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Yeah for some reason, the samsung radio are junk. I have my Droid Charge (personal) and an Lg phone (business) and the lg blows the sammy out of the water. Now i am in 3g fringe (forget about 4g), and the sammy loses data all together while my lg still has the signal. I hate when i am trying to search for something on the charge and it says connection failed or network unavailable retry. Even when i call verizon, they all have me do a reset and stuff, and nothing works. The best answer i get is that iam in a 3g fringe area. When i tell them that my lg works and still has signal, all i get is silence or hmmmmmm. Gota love it. Yes they exchanged the phone with a new one and it still does the same thing. Forget about battery life. I actually carry 3 batteries with me and on a good day i only use 2 but usually it is 3. Before anyone says use wifi, unfortunatly we do not have free wifi where i work. anyway that should not be the answer to this problem. We are paying for a service that i can barely use.
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I went through the whole VZW customer service thing both on the phone and in person. They weren't much help but they gave me a brand new phone and it does the same thing. Then there were a lot of suggstions on different forums suggesting apps killers, turning data off, turing on 3g only data, rooting, trying different ROMs, battery clalibration, etc. None of this helps. The kind of drain I am seeing goes way beyond any benefits I would see out of any of these things. For example, I am at work now. When I left the house, it takes about 15 minutes for me to get to work. The rest of the time I have been inside my work building. I have been on battery for 2 hours & 24 minutes and I am at 76% already. Thats >10% drain per hour. When I am outside the building it is more like 3-5%. VZW customer service never suggested this as a problem. They DID suggest that 4g uses more battery but that is not the problem. I have proved that time and again by simply turning data off.
Hmm..sounds like a bad phone..I am in a fringe area at work and it definitely kills by battery faster but..it's only like 8% and hour so I still get 10 hrs a day or so...in a bad area. In a good 4 G area..I will get 24 hrs or so out of the phone.
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Yeah for some reason, the samsung radio are junk. I have my Droid Charge (personal) and an Lg phone (business) and the lg blows the sammy out of the water. Now i am in 3g fringe (forget about 4g), and the sammy loses data all together while my lg still has the signal. I hate when i am trying to search for something on the charge and it says connection failed or network unavailable retry. Even when i call verizon, they all have me do a reset and stuff, and nothing works. The best answer i get is that iam in a 3g fringe area. When i tell them that my lg works and still has signal, all i get is silence or hmmmmmm. Gota love it. Yes they exchanged the phone with a new one and it still does the same thing. Forget about battery life. I actually carry 3 batteries with me and on a good day i only use 2 but usually it is 3. Before anyone says use wifi, unfortunatly we do not have free wifi where i work. anyway that should not be the answer to this problem. We are paying for a service that i can barely use.
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Wow, that is the complete opposite of my experience. I've never had good signal with any LG phone - from flip phones to smartphones. Samsungs in my experience are middle of the road - not great, but not bad either. Motorolas usually do well, but there are certainly exceptions. HTC seems to be fairly good, but again, there are exceptions. Oh, and I did have one Audiovox phone on VZW, and it was garbage.
Haha you can whine about it in my rage thread
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Phone Temp reached 122 Degrees. Is is ok..? Don't hate for asking.

Hey guys! I know this has been brought up several times, but just wanted to ask. So don't hate me. I've noticed that the gym I work out at is a bad dead spot. So if I leave the mobile data checked, the phone is constantly looking for a signal. Today I left it in my gym bag. When I went to get it, it was really hot. I have a battery indicator and the temp was at 122 degrees Fahrenheit. The signal is an E. I'm pretty sure the phone has a safety feature. I was just curious. Thank you and don't hate me. I guess I'll have to turn data off.
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if its that hot its obviously a problem, sounds like you have a rogue app running more than looking for a signal
If its a bad area for signal, turn on airplane mode instead. Will save battery and heat.
On a side note, the hottest my Gnex ever got, CPU wise not battery temp, was 152 degrees F. I was scared lol
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It's not safe to reach such high temps for long periods of time. I recall someone saying if you turn off LTE, the dead zone problem goes away. If not, use airplane mode before you head to the gym so your phone won't go crazy looking for a signal.
bloodrain954 said:
if its that hot its obviously a problem, sounds like you have a rogue app running more than looking for a signal
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I made sure I had no running apps causing it. And since it only does it at the gym, it must be signal issues. I will just switch it to airplane mode before the gym from now on.. Seems to be working fine though.
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50 degrees, ! how to cool my infuse down?

50 degrees Celsius!
I keep getting 45+ when I surf on 3G for a while while my environment temp is 30 degrees. I think my finger might even have slight burn from the high temperature today.
A guess is battery, I hit the temperature with batteries from Amazon.com
I haven't compare it to my original one yet. I had two, but the other one is cooler tonight. I'm not taking that into account since 1)the environment is cooler 2)I'm using wifi
So it have to be something to deal with either battery or 3G/4G.
Does anyone have the similar problem?
I'm on Scott's Cm10 on August 30. I really love this rom and I hope this isn't the source of the problem.
Thanks
edit: 3g does create massive heat on upper part of the phone!
are you overclocked?
You will always run hotter than the environment, so it it's a hot day that will make a difference.
My infuse usually doesn't get hot unless it's a sunny day and I'm driving using navigation. The infuse actually runs quite cool compared to some other phones I have tried. My wife has an Atrix that gets hot to the touch after a few minutes of light use.
I've only ever used the original battery in my infuse so i can't speak to that.
brian Marshall said:
are you overclocked?
You will always run hotter than the environment, so it it's a hot day that will make a difference.
My infuse usually doesn't get hot unless it's a sunny day and I'm driving using navigation. The infuse actually runs quite cool compared to some other phones I have tried. My wife has an Atrix that gets hot to the touch after a few minutes of light use.
I've only ever used the original battery in my infuse so i can't speak to that.
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I did overclocked and am overclocking now. However, I tried to use and normal 1.2 and uc 800 before, I even flashed original /system to get the stock kernel. It didn't help to reduce the temperature, so I'm back on 1.4 now.
And my infuse got hot for several minutes of light usage, too. Both UCKL2 and UCLB3 have the same performance. not hot at all if I'm on a wifi
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I find mine gets warm just under the camera flash, if I use it for extended amounts of time. But never to any degree that has concerned me. Is it the actual battery that is getting warm?
reactorcooler said:
50 degrees Celsius!
I keep getting 45+ when I surf on 3G for a while while my environment temp is 30 degrees. I think my finger might even have slight burn from the high temperature today.
A guess is battery, I hit the temperature with batteries from Amazon.com
I haven't compare it to my original one yet. I had two, but the other one is cooler tonight. I'm not taking that into account since 1)the environment is cooler 2)I'm using wifi
So it have to be something to deal with either battery or 3G/4G.
Does anyone have the similar problem?
I'm on Scott's Cm10 on August 30. I really love this rom and I hope this isn't the source of the problem.
Thanks
edit: 3g does create massive heat on upper part of the phone!
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Sounds like a battery problem, try a cheap or friends battery.
If the battery is the problem replace it ASAP or you can damage your phone.
I subscribe a new number for higher data plan (in my country). However, I did a comparison showing with the old sim card it simply gets "warm", but with my new one my phone burns (whenever trying to connect to 3G). I'm at the same location, within an hour. The heat came from SIM tray and left side of the camera. Is it possible that I got a SIM with (partially) short circuit?
reactorcooler said:
I subscribe a new number for higher data plan (in my country). However, I did a comparison showing with the old sim card it simply gets "warm", but with my new one my phone burns (whenever trying to connect to 3G). I'm at the same location, within an hour. The heat came from SIM tray and left side of the camera. Is it possible that I got a SIM with (partially) short circuit?
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Anything’s possible. Personally fwiw (just a guess) from the info quoted, I’d be inclined to think there is something that is making your phone work harder to connect to the network, maybe a weaker signal (especially if you moved to more rural area) or some change in settings that occured when sims changed.

How warm do you guys let your phone get?

Hi everyone,
I'm about a week-long user of the M8 so far, and I'm loving it. I've been a fairly long time HTC user as well - I started with the Ozone, then fell back to a feature phone until I picked up the Incredible 2, which lasted for a long time.
At any rate, I'm no stranger to hot phones, literally. During my commute back and forth to work, I would use my Inc. 2 to record the drive with Dailyroads Voyager, while simultaneously monitoring road conditions with Waze. My good old Inc. 2 would power through those tasks like a boss, while at the same time burning up, and usually unable to pull enough power from the car USB charger. The only way to keep my phone stable was by running my car's defroster to blow cold air over the phone.
Now that I'm up to date hardware-wise, the M8 is no exception in the power house category. It can even keep charging while it's doing these things, although it does still get pretty warm. It's currently in a protective case which seems to dissipate the heat pretty well.
My question is, how warm do you guys let your M8 get? (Note: I'm rooted, but still running stock with no sort of overclocking involved.)
The only time I've ever had heat issues was when I mounted the phone to use as gps. And this was under direct 90 degree heat. Other than that, I've had no problems with heat whatsoever, even on prolonged lte usage and video watching.
My experience might be isolated though. I'd say, if your phone is uncomfortably hot to touch, you should probably ease up on it to be safe.
ReyStunner said:
The only time I've ever had heat issues was when I mounted the phone to use as gps. And this was under direct 90 degree heat. Other than that, I've had no problems with heat whatsoever, even on prolonged lte usage and video watching.
My experience might be isolated though. I'd say, if your phone is uncomfortably hot to touch, you should probably ease up on it to be safe.
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Yeah, always with the GPS navigation it seems. I wonder if this is something that can be fixed software wise (I.E filling a bug report to Waze/DRV), or if it's more on HTC's end for software/hardware...
I would assume it was just the metal body absorbing direct sunlight but I might be wrong. My HTC rezound used to double as a portable heater the way it used to get hot with extended usage. This one doesn't seem to be like that though.
Usually only heats when running tether for a period.
tgp1994 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm about a week-long user of the M8 so far, and I'm loving it. I've been a fairly long time HTC user as well - I started with the Ozone, then fell back to a feature phone until I picked up the Incredible 2, which lasted for a long time.
At any rate, I'm no stranger to hot phones, literally. During my commute back and forth to work, I would use my Inc. 2 to record the drive with Dailyroads Voyager, while simultaneously monitoring road conditions with Waze. My good old Inc. 2 would power through those tasks like a boss, while at the same time burning up, and usually unable to pull enough power from the car USB charger. The only way to keep my phone stable was by running my car's defroster to blow cold air over the phone.
Now that I'm up to date hardware-wise, the M8 is no exception in the power house category. It can even keep charging while it's doing these things, although it does still get pretty warm. It's currently in a protective case which seems to dissipate the heat pretty well.
My question is, how warm do you guys let your M8 get? (Note: I'm rooted, but still running stock with no sort of overclocking involved.)
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davidmatt34 said:
Usually only heats when running tether for a period.
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That's been my experience from the Inc 2, as well. So it seems like the mobile radio may generate quite a bit of heat...
I recently accidentally let my M8 get too hot while listening to music with it laying in direct sunlight face up. Didn't think about the black screen absorbing so much heat, got so hot it went into safety shut-off. It was almost too hot to touch, but after a couple minutes off it was relatively cool and turned back on fine with no problems or battery issue.
Low 40s Celsius is when I start to get uncomfortable. It's still safe, I just simply don't like it that warm. I get mad when my OC'd Intel cpu hits 60c even though 75+ is fine. I'm just anal about temps I guess
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As hot as it wants, it'll turn off by itself if it ever reaches critical temperatures
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My Car mount clips onto the AC vents so my phone is always cool (I block some of the air through. Too cold isn't good either(
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I agree that the only time (and it was only once) my unit got hot was while I was using it in its car mount and GPS was on. Otherwise I have seen none of the heart issues that plagued my Rezound and my Incredible.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
I usually put it in preheated to 400 degrees and flip halfway through at 10 minutes.
Suits my needs.
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I like to burn things
But really though, I keep her around 451°F
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If you're rooted, install XPosed and than install "CPU Temp in StatusBar" to keep really good track of the temps. Mine doesn't ever get over 110F, even under hard WiFi and streaming use. I've never used it for GPS in the car. At idle, it sits under 80F.
RikRong said:
If you're rooted, install XPosed and than install "CPU Temp in StatusBar" to keep really good track of the temps. Mine doesn't ever get over 110F, even under hard WiFi and streaming use. I've never used it for GPS in the car. At idle, it sits under 80F.
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Thank you, I've been looking for a CoreTemp-like feature for my phone. I'll give this a try!
I've been hammering on my new m8 (swapping roms, installing massive amounts of apps, running tests, playing games ) for over a day and the phone has never gotten beyond lukewarm. Nothing close to what my m7 used to do
I never look at the temp. It will auto throttle if it gets too hot anyway. Just use the phone how you want and don't worry about it...
Well, I gave the temp monitoring thing a try (very cool!) and I don't think my phone ever passed 65 degrees Celsius, which I guess is ok. So no worries it seems!
That's a hundred and forty nine degrees F. Lol you need more ac.
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Rushing said:
That's a hundred and forty nine degrees F. Lol you need more ac.
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I think I'm still doing better than your 451 degrees

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