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Hey just wondering what should the average temp be for my phone. I'm running bamf 4.4.2 kernel at 1.47 max and 245 min. I'm around 99.8 degrees Fahrenheit. Is that normal?
Yes high is around 130. I usually hit 115 when charging and using a lot of data.
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miketoasty said:
Yes high is around 130. I usually hit 115 when charging and using a lot of data.
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Holy crap! And I thought it was getting hot. Man you get it up there. I have nothing to gripe about. Lol. Thanks for the info.
The phone feels hot but these parts were built to work in extreme temps. All of my phones have always gotten hot. Even my Apple products way back when would heat up quickly.
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Yes high is around 130. I usually hit 115 when charging and using a lot of data.
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That may be so, but I doubt that's a good thing. After trying a bunch of different kernels, I settled on one where my battery seldom gets above 100F even under load while charging. Heat is the enemy of electronics.
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That may be so, but I doubt that's a good thing. After trying a bunch of different kernels, I settled on one where my battery seldom gets above 100F even under load while charging. Heat is the enemy of electronics.
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My phone usually stays around 90 when charging usually data is what throws it up.
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Mine got up to 125F (and drained the battery) searching for / trying to hold onto a weak 4G signal when I was sitting in a meeting. In addition to flashing a new kernel and the new radio, I now turn off data if I'm heading into a meeting (which I suppose is better meeting etiquette, anyway).
I once hit 124F and got an overheat condition. This happened while charging the battery in the car dock on a sunny day for more than an hour. That's with the stock ROM and previous radio. Haven't tried charging the TB in the car dock on a sunny day for more than an hour yet with BAMF 1.5 NTE with the 4.4.2 kernel. On idle, I noticed that with the new ROM and radio, the battery is a mere 75F. The stock ROM and previous radio on idle went as low as 90F.
My high is 47-48c. Has been up there a few tines. If it stays there too long it locks up. I then have to perform a battery pull.
if its hot enough to make the phone act up (laggy, locking up) then its too hot.
charging while wireless tethering while having the cpu cranked up can get a phone too hot in about 10 minutes.
Mine, after about 25 mins of use - gaming and surfing on the net - reaches 44 degrees celcius and bottom of the phone gets really hot.
This happens in normal use not while charging.
Is this normal?
What temps do you get?
Also I am experiencing signal drops for the gsm network, but I do not think this is related to heat issue.
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Same here, it gets too hot to comfortably handle. Tmo is sending me another as soon as they get them in.
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Doesn't get that hot for me with hours of use gaming, surfing, playing music, etc. But yesterday when streaming music via 4G, charging in the car in the sunlight (N1 dock power cord), without the ac on on a 90 degree Fahrenheit day the thing was easily 100 degrees F. Hope it's just an issue with the charging cable and heat of the day combining.
mine has reached 113 degrees F just from playing peggle for around 20 mins...
Around 87F on average usage unplugged...
got to 110 degrees playing Cut the Rope
Mine reached 50°C while charging and an active app that kept the screen on. Outside felt cooking hot when I picked it up.
Mine got to 113 deg after only 10 min of playing fast five...really worries me as this is my second unit, first one was perfect built, no batt issue bt the power button was crooked than a MOFO lol..if this continues i mite return this one too, bt then I worry about getting another unit that has another issue...its like u can't win with this things
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My wife's got hot enough today to shut down while she was using it.
I'll be playing with it tonight for a while and see if it was a one time deal, mine doesn't have that problem at all.
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Mine got to 113 deg after only 10 min of playing fast five...really worries me as this is my second unit, first one was perfect built, no batt issue bt the power button was crooked than a MOFO lol..if this continues i mite return this one too, bt then I worry about getting another unit that has another issue...its like u can't win with this things
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your new phone doesnt have the crooked power button? i thought everybody had that
Had a file transfer going while playing some games - ended up at around 50c with the bottom of the phone extremely hot.
When i stopped things and tried a reboot - phone went into a reboot loop - so went to pull out battery to hard reboot. With cover off -- very hot - not just battery but area with SD card / SIM is too hot to hold.
It would definitely burn my fingers if I tried to hold there.
Dammit, mine is also getting pretty hot. I wasn't even playing games on it when I noticed how hot it was getting. I was showing my family a few pictures on it, and in 5 minutes the lower part of the phone became really hot. Never had that happen with any other phone before. Hmm...
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your new phone doesnt have the crooked power button? i thought everybody had that
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haha i thought the same too until someone posted a pic of their "normal" one and i was like hell nah, im returning mine for a diff one, which now has a perfectly level power button...problem is though that first one had no problems and the batt never got hot. this second one's issue is the batt gets really hot after a few minutes of usage in which the phone gets uncomfortable to even handle.
Heya,
Last night I was playing Angry Birds in bed while plugged in a Kidigi dock. All is well. Now let me define some preconditions first.
The phone does get hot while:
1. Charging
2. Screen is on for a long time
3. Heavy CPU load
4. That goddamn hot weather isn't helping either
Right?
Put above conditions together. Temperature is 48.3C. I never thought I'd need to use a cooling fan on a phone, honestly. I did that to an overheating AMD desktop some time ago...
The thing is I knew there was something going on not by feeling the hot phone (remember the dock part?) but by seeing the LED strangely cycling through all three colors. Anyway I shutdown everything running, turned off the screen and kept my fingers crossed. The flashing stopped almost immediately as it dropped one degree in an instant. Took it 15 minutes to cool down to the normal 38C.
I looked around and didn't find a definitive answer for this one, even on HTC's site where they supposedly list notification color meanings. Therefore I now define a new one, let's call it "I'm just about to blow up now, k10xbye".
Has anyone else had such a drastic overheating case with this type of notification?
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Nope. My phone hit 52 degrees. Nothing happened to it. Just turned the screen off and it cooled down
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Nope. My phone hit 52 degrees. Nothing happened to it. Just turned the screen off and it cooled down
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THAT'S sick. Do you live in the desert?
yes, mine overheated as well while playing angry birds and charging at the same time.This happend two times since I've got the sensation.
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The thing is I knew there was something going on not by feeling the hot phone (remember the dock part?) but by seeing the LED strangely cycling through all three colors.
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What was the third color? Mine only flashes orange for when its dying, solid for when its charging. Flashes green for notification, solid green when its fully charged.
Charging is orange.
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Heya,
Last night I was playing Angry Birds in bed while plugged in a Kidigi dock. All is well. Now let me define some preconditions first.
The phone does get hot while:
1. Charging
2. Screen is on for a long time
3. Heavy CPU load
4. That goddamn hot weather isn't helping either
Right?
Put above conditions together. Temperature is 48.3C. I never thought I'd need to use a cooling fan on a phone, honestly. I did that to an overheating AMD desktop some time ago...
The thing is I knew there was something going on not by feeling the hot phone (remember the dock part?) but by seeing the LED strangely cycling through all three colors. Anyway I shutdown everything running, turned off the screen and kept my fingers crossed. The flashing stopped almost immediately as it dropped one degree in an instant. Took it 15 minutes to cool down to the normal 38C.
I looked around and didn't find a definitive answer for this one, even on HTC's site where they supposedly list notification color meanings. Therefore I now define a new one, let's call it "I'm just about to blow up now, k10xbye".
Has anyone else had such a drastic overheating case with this type of notification?
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I monitor my battery temperature by dialing *#*#4636#*#* which takes you into a section called testing, and then selecting battery information. This displays temperature along with other info. At one time, it actually said overheating. it has not happened again but if it does, I will seek a replacement unit. There is no way that any of this, your sceneraio or mine, is normal.
It's not normal. Heavier games with 3D don't do that. Max temp achieved was 42.
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My EVO4G used to do that when I had it in the tank bag on my motorcycle listening to Pandora. The plastic cover would cause it to heat up and the led would cycle and it would stop charging and shut down.
There is a reason to this. The battery is mainly lithium. Lithium is highly reactive (read lots of very hot flames and sparks and excitement that you probably don't want going off near your girlfriend or dog or sensitive government documents). They use the same type batteries in RC aircraft, only lots bigger, and youtube will show some pretty spectacular lithium battery explosions, if you care to search them.
Imagine that going off in your pocket.
Ouch, a little....
Heh shutting down is reasonable, heating up till shutdown during normal use is not. And yes I watched those videos on YouTube when I got my wrist charger.
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I m also suffering... But only gets hotter when u use the phone while charging, or use the phone for almost 20 mins continuously...
Here you go. 20 minutes Angry Birds, no charging, 43 degrees. Decided to quit. Anyway I've had enough for today plus not so pleasant on the hands.
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It's too hot to hold right now. I walked around my workplace and lost 4g. Nothing is running on the phone. I've lost 20% battery in the past half hour. Something is wrong :/
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Turned phone of for 10 mins. Battery dropped from 26% to 16% between restarts. 4g is back, heat is gone. What could be the issue? I know this phone has been having problems on Verizon's 4g network
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Not really worth posting... you are doing something to cause the cpu to run crazy.. the only time i have ever got it hot is in games or if im tethering for any extended period of time. Battery life will suffer horribly from this.. so far ive been able to drain this 2100mah Battery within 6 hours. Dont posts pointless babble plz.
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It's possible the tower you're connected to is having issues, causing you to drop back to 3G which might also be having issues, causing your phone to fight for a signal.
Loss of signal makes everything go nuts on a phone. It pumps up the antennae to try and hold on to any signal it can see. This also increases the drain on the battery which generates heat on it's own.
In certain stores, I have to turn my phone completely off (sometimes I can get away with just turning off mobile data), as even maintaining a voice channel is running everything at full blast, murdering the battery and scorching me (not really, but it's still hot).
The phone's SOC should have a safety switch that will force it to power off if it gets TOO hot. Unfortunately for our comfort, too hot for electronics is MUCH higher than too hot for our skin.
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Not really worth posting... you are doing something to cause the cpu to run crazy.. the only time i have ever got it hot is in games or if im tethering for any extended period of time. Battery life will suffer horribly from this.. so far ive been able to drain this 2100mah Battery within 6 hours. Dont posts pointless babble plz.
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What a wonderfully constructive post. My phone has been idle and doing this. Please re read the op.
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It's possible the tower you're connected to is having issues, causing you to drop back to 3G which might also be having issues, causing your phone to fight for a signal.
Loss of signal makes everything go nuts on a phone. It pumps up the antennae to try and hold on to any signal it can see. This also increases the drain on the battery which generates heat on it's own.
In certain stores, I have to turn my phone completely off (sometimes I can get away with just turning off mobile data), as even maintaining a voice channel is running everything at full blast, murdering the battery and scorching me (not really, but it's still hot).
The phone's SOC should have a safety switch that will force it to power off if it gets TOO hot. Unfortunately for our comfort, too hot for electronics is MUCH higher than too hot for our skin.
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yes this is what I have been thinking. Although sometimes I will lose 4g until I restart my device. I think it's somewhat of a software issue over a network problem.
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cmg5461 said:
What a wonderfully constructive post. My phone has been idle and doing this. Please re read the op.
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cmg5461 said:
Please re read the op.
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cmg5461 said:
re read the op.
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re read
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Reading is hard, apparently.
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Reading is hard, apparently.
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Agreed. I think the problem is along the lines of 4G dropping and the phone is trying to reconnect to it with no success. Is this debug info in the logcat?
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Agreed. I think the problem is along the lines of 4G dropping and the phone is trying to reconnect to it with no success. Is this debug info in the logcat?
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It could be. I've never personally had occasion to pull a logcat, so I'm not sure what kind of information gets stored in there.
My phone also did this yesterday while idling except, I did lose 4G, it just wouldn't charge cause it said it was too hot and felt like it just came out of the oven (ofcourse it was mid 90's here yesterday) but IMO still shouldn't get that hot when not in use.
The information about signal should be available in logcat.
My GNex would do this. It would struggle to find a signal and heat up significantly as a result. Battery life suffered. This would happen in my office, but not at home where I have a better 4G signal.
Switching to WiFi at the office helped, but was not really a solution to the problem which certainly can occur when you don't have WiFi available.
As a note the GS3 doesn't do this for me, so it appears that the radios are better in this device. Doesn't help you much, but hey, it could be worse I guess.
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It's possible the tower you're connected to is having issues, causing you to drop back to 3G which might also be having issues, causing your phone to fight for a signal.
Loss of signal makes everything go nuts on a phone. It pumps up the antennae to try and hold on to any signal it can see. This also increases the drain on the battery which generates heat on it's own.
In certain stores, I have to turn my phone completely off (sometimes I can get away with just turning off mobile data), as even maintaining a voice channel is running everything at full blast, murdering the battery and scorching me (not really, but it's still hot).
The phone's SOC should have a safety switch that will force it to power off if it gets TOO hot. Unfortunately for our comfort, too hot for electronics is MUCH higher than too hot for our skin.
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This happened with my Fascinate.. where it had died due to running out of juice. And wouldn't turn back on or even charge with the in car charger due to Texas heat being 104 Degrees scorching at that time.. -__-". Had gotten an error temperature message with phone will not turn on/charge due to temperature too high risk...
My phone runs hot too when using it in low signal areas.. It also burns through battery like crazy..
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My phone runs hot too when using it in low signal areas.. It also burns through battery like crazy..
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All phones do this. There's a local grocery store that I swear uses a cell jammer, you get 20ft through the doors and a full 4G signal drops to nothing, not even 1xRtt, not even voice or sms. All throughout the store, until you walk out the door, then wide open signal again. I have seen my battery go down like 80% in an hour in there until I figured it out and started putting it in airplane mode when I go there.
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I have 2 bars of 3G service in my home and the phone eats that battery up.. Wish the radio was better, you would think after 2 generations of Galaxy S's and the Nexus they would get that right with the phone at this point..
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All phones do this. There's a local grocery store that I swear uses a cell jammer, you get 20ft through the doors and a full 4G signal drops to nothing, not even 1xRtt, not even voice or sms. All throughout the store, until you walk out the door, then wide open signal again. I have seen my battery go down like 80% in an hour in there until I figured it out and started putting it in airplane mode when I go there.
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Most buildings like grocery stores and such are built with steel framing, rather than the wood that gets used in regular houses. This creates a faraday cage effect when you walk through the doors. Depending on the construction, it can be very strong and effectively block most signal from getting in.
I have also seen this effect in manufactured homes/trailers, as they tend to use steel framing rather than wood.
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Most buildings like grocery stores and such are built with steel framing, rather than the wood that gets used in regular houses. This creates a faraday cage effect when you walk through the doors. Depending on the construction, it can be very strong and effectively block most signal from getting in.
I have also seen this effect in manufactured homes/trailers, as they tend to use steel framing rather than wood.
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It's the only building anywhere around here that is that dramatic of a change. Every other grocery store or mall or home or office I have a 4G signal.
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At work we have a modular trailer and I get no service once I step inside.. And if you ever go to warehouses like Home Depot or Costco, the signal drops significantly..
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Yes it's all do to the radio. Those of us, in a fringe area have to suffer tthrew this. If I'm at my house I can get 4G upstairs and 1x in the basement. This causes the phones battery to drain much faster and cause great issues. I recommend using a different kernel if you are comfortable with it. Also use deadline/smartass . It takes some tweaking, but it will help. No matter what we do we have to face the fact that 4G devices kill battery life.Your not going to get no more then 4 hours screen on time. I love the phone don't get me wrong but the only all day battery phone is the MAXX. I have one also and Motorola s radios are killer lol I wish I could stick my MAXX radios in this baby Another thing its download CPU spy , see if your phone is actually sleeping. It could be a rouge app , contributing to the problems to. I just picked up a 4500mah extended battery , it was the best 30 bucks I ever spent. Good luck and let us know if it was anything else then software related.
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Yes it's all do to the radio. Those of us, in a fringe area have to suffer tthrew this. If I'm at my house I can get 4G upstairs and 1x in the basement. This causes the phones battery to drain much faster and cause great issues. I recommend using a different kernel if you are comfortable with it. Also use deadline/smartass . It takes some tweaking, but it will help. No matter what we do we have to face the fact that 4G devices kill battery life.Your not going to get no more then 4 hours screen on time. I love the phone don't get me wrong but the only all day battery phone is the MAXX. I have one also and Motorola s radios are killer lol I wish I could stick my MAXX radios in this baby Another thing its download CPU spy , see if your phone is actually sleeping. It could be a rouge app , contributing to the problems to. I just picked up a 4500mah extended battery , it was the best 30 bucks I ever spent. Good luck and let us know if it was anything else then software related.
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Plenty of us here can pull more than 4 hours of screen-on time in a single charge.
Hi everyone,
I'm about a week-long user of the M8 so far, and I'm loving it. I've been a fairly long time HTC user as well - I started with the Ozone, then fell back to a feature phone until I picked up the Incredible 2, which lasted for a long time.
At any rate, I'm no stranger to hot phones, literally. During my commute back and forth to work, I would use my Inc. 2 to record the drive with Dailyroads Voyager, while simultaneously monitoring road conditions with Waze. My good old Inc. 2 would power through those tasks like a boss, while at the same time burning up, and usually unable to pull enough power from the car USB charger. The only way to keep my phone stable was by running my car's defroster to blow cold air over the phone.
Now that I'm up to date hardware-wise, the M8 is no exception in the power house category. It can even keep charging while it's doing these things, although it does still get pretty warm. It's currently in a protective case which seems to dissipate the heat pretty well.
My question is, how warm do you guys let your M8 get? (Note: I'm rooted, but still running stock with no sort of overclocking involved.)
The only time I've ever had heat issues was when I mounted the phone to use as gps. And this was under direct 90 degree heat. Other than that, I've had no problems with heat whatsoever, even on prolonged lte usage and video watching.
My experience might be isolated though. I'd say, if your phone is uncomfortably hot to touch, you should probably ease up on it to be safe.
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The only time I've ever had heat issues was when I mounted the phone to use as gps. And this was under direct 90 degree heat. Other than that, I've had no problems with heat whatsoever, even on prolonged lte usage and video watching.
My experience might be isolated though. I'd say, if your phone is uncomfortably hot to touch, you should probably ease up on it to be safe.
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Yeah, always with the GPS navigation it seems. I wonder if this is something that can be fixed software wise (I.E filling a bug report to Waze/DRV), or if it's more on HTC's end for software/hardware...
I would assume it was just the metal body absorbing direct sunlight but I might be wrong. My HTC rezound used to double as a portable heater the way it used to get hot with extended usage. This one doesn't seem to be like that though.
Usually only heats when running tether for a period.
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Hi everyone,
I'm about a week-long user of the M8 so far, and I'm loving it. I've been a fairly long time HTC user as well - I started with the Ozone, then fell back to a feature phone until I picked up the Incredible 2, which lasted for a long time.
At any rate, I'm no stranger to hot phones, literally. During my commute back and forth to work, I would use my Inc. 2 to record the drive with Dailyroads Voyager, while simultaneously monitoring road conditions with Waze. My good old Inc. 2 would power through those tasks like a boss, while at the same time burning up, and usually unable to pull enough power from the car USB charger. The only way to keep my phone stable was by running my car's defroster to blow cold air over the phone.
Now that I'm up to date hardware-wise, the M8 is no exception in the power house category. It can even keep charging while it's doing these things, although it does still get pretty warm. It's currently in a protective case which seems to dissipate the heat pretty well.
My question is, how warm do you guys let your M8 get? (Note: I'm rooted, but still running stock with no sort of overclocking involved.)
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That's been my experience from the Inc 2, as well. So it seems like the mobile radio may generate quite a bit of heat...
I recently accidentally let my M8 get too hot while listening to music with it laying in direct sunlight face up. Didn't think about the black screen absorbing so much heat, got so hot it went into safety shut-off. It was almost too hot to touch, but after a couple minutes off it was relatively cool and turned back on fine with no problems or battery issue.
Low 40s Celsius is when I start to get uncomfortable. It's still safe, I just simply don't like it that warm. I get mad when my OC'd Intel cpu hits 60c even though 75+ is fine. I'm just anal about temps I guess
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As hot as it wants, it'll turn off by itself if it ever reaches critical temperatures
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My Car mount clips onto the AC vents so my phone is always cool (I block some of the air through. Too cold isn't good either(
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I agree that the only time (and it was only once) my unit got hot was while I was using it in its car mount and GPS was on. Otherwise I have seen none of the heart issues that plagued my Rezound and my Incredible.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
I usually put it in preheated to 400 degrees and flip halfway through at 10 minutes.
Suits my needs.
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I like to burn things
But really though, I keep her around 451°F
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If you're rooted, install XPosed and than install "CPU Temp in StatusBar" to keep really good track of the temps. Mine doesn't ever get over 110F, even under hard WiFi and streaming use. I've never used it for GPS in the car. At idle, it sits under 80F.
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If you're rooted, install XPosed and than install "CPU Temp in StatusBar" to keep really good track of the temps. Mine doesn't ever get over 110F, even under hard WiFi and streaming use. I've never used it for GPS in the car. At idle, it sits under 80F.
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Thank you, I've been looking for a CoreTemp-like feature for my phone. I'll give this a try!
I've been hammering on my new m8 (swapping roms, installing massive amounts of apps, running tests, playing games ) for over a day and the phone has never gotten beyond lukewarm. Nothing close to what my m7 used to do
I never look at the temp. It will auto throttle if it gets too hot anyway. Just use the phone how you want and don't worry about it...
Well, I gave the temp monitoring thing a try (very cool!) and I don't think my phone ever passed 65 degrees Celsius, which I guess is ok. So no worries it seems!
That's a hundred and forty nine degrees F. Lol you need more ac.
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That's a hundred and forty nine degrees F. Lol you need more ac.
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I think I'm still doing better than your 451 degrees