quite a few makers using tegra 3.. - General Topics

anyone noticed this? toshiba, acer, asus, htc, etc. i wonder if is cause its cheaper or nvidia brand

Most likely because it's cheaper. Tegra 3 is currently going through what Tegra 2 did. It's really just a cheap way for manufacturers to say they have a quad core device and not pay much. It's really a horrible SoC, especially compared to the exynos 4412 or krait s4. And once ti comes out with omap 5 or whatever it is Tegra will be obsolete. Again.
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And their exclusive tegra 3 graphics enhancements, which is one of their biggest selling point..
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mox123 said:
anyone noticed this? toshiba, acer, asus, htc, etc. i wonder if is cause its cheaper or nvidia brand
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i really enjoy my tf300t tegra 3 device and to be honest i low the price point for the power i think they may think the same thing why make a device no one can afford.

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Any Tegra or Tegra 2 phones for Sprint?

Does anyone know or heard if there are any plans for a tegra or tegra 2 based phone coming for sprint? I read that nvidia is focusing their tegra 2 chips on android so this would be a nice combination for a phone.
Anyone know anything?? I'm interested in this as well.
Sprints main manufacturers for phones are Samsung and HTC.
HTC=Qualcomm love.
Samsung=Makes their own SoCs.
Motorola uses different types of SoCs. They've used Qualcomm, TI, and they're planning Tegra 2 phones. But Motorola mainly uses TI SoCs.
If Sprint lands a deal with LG, LG is also planning Tegra phones. Right now, we'll see what happens. Qualcomm or Samsung might come out with something that can rival or beat out Tegra 2 by the time Tegra 2 starts to really show up in phones.
I know Sprint will be getting some dual-core ARM processor phones, but I would say we can look forward to some Tegra 2s since this is what google is basing their builds off of.
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No terga 2. Soon Samsung S2.
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I am trying to decide between the Photon and the EVO 3d.
Anyone have some input?
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Personally the 3d wasn't for me. I didn't like the 3d, had crappy reception and slow data speeds. I wasn't the only one with these problems. You can check that out in the forums. So I traded it in b4 the 30 days and now am waiting for the photon or gs2. I'm undecided. I wonder how the tegra 2 is compared to exynos?.
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From the limited amount of info I have read the exynos is supposed to be better.

[Q] NVIDIA's new ZTE Mimosa X Tegra 2 phone with ICS

ZTE, which is owned by NVIDIA, has announced the release of a new Tegra 2 phone named Mimosa X, in the 2nd quarter of 2012, which will come with ICS http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Mimosa-X_id6945
Will that enable providing hardware acceleration, and other abilities for the G2X/P999 if NVIDIA and LG hasn't providing ICS for the Optimus 2X/P990 and the G2X/P999 by then?
Core Memory said:
ZTE, which is owned by NVIDIA, has announced the release of a new Tegra 2 phone named Mimosa X, in the 2nd quarter of 2012, which will come with ICS http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Mimosa-X_id6945
Will that enable providing hardware acceleration, and other abilities for the G2X/P999 if NVIDIA and LG hasn't providing ICS for the Optimus 2X/P990 and the G2X/P999 by then?
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I was wondering the same exact thing. I doubt it's going to use the same version of the Tegra 2 as the G2x though.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
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I was wondering the same exact thing. I doubt it's going to use the same version of the Tegra 2 as the G2x though.
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Why? As far as we know, there are two Tegra 2 SOCs, one that basically is used in tablets, and one that has been used in phones.
I know we're all just guessing until more information is released but my assumption its that its am implementation of the Tegra 2 reference platform and that is mostly the same device as its bretheren, minus the cellular modem, as it contains one from a company that nVidia just bought.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
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I was wondering the same exact thing. I doubt it's going to use the same version of the Tegra 2 as the G2x though.
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Lolwut, there are only two versions of tegra 2, one for tablets, one for phones. Also, the Galaxy R is a tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to be getting ICS on release.
IRASadPanda said:
Lolwut, there are only two versions of tegra 2, one for tablets, one for phones. Also, the Galaxy R is a tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to be getting ICS on release.
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Well what if they used the tablet version of the tegra on the phone? You never know. lol
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Well what if they used the tablet version of the tegra on the phone? You never know. lol
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I highly doubt they would use the tablet version of the Tegra 2 for their phone because it would require a lot of new work which has already been done for the one currently used in phones. As well, NVIDIA won't be producing a different Tegra 2 because the cost of redesigning the chip and reworking their silicon foundry to produce it would be an unnecessary and huge cost for a SOC they already produce and now have superceded with the Tegra 3 and are in the process of developing much higher capability and more energy efficient chips. I looked at NVIDIA's literature about what they've got planned and the Tegra 3 is, like the Tegra 2, just another short-lived step along the way.

Tegra 3 AT&T One X Coming?

According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul​
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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Who cares, it's a damn phone
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bloodrain954 said:
Who cares, it's a damn phone
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Lol that was awesome.
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I don't want the Tegra 3 with LTE, I want the quad core Snapdragon S4 with LTE. At the least, however, the quad core should only have additional power drain from two cores running, not from either needing another chip for LTE or some other arcane issue like that.
BarryH_GEG said:
According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul​
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
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Two X?
corythug said:
Lol that was awesome.
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Yeah it was. Man, he got me.
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BarryH_GEG said:
But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not.
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This.
Though I'm not a banker by occupation, I invest and follow the stock markets closely, especially in the tech industries and HTC has been taking a beating recently. Part of it was the injunction dished out which caused the HOX ban, but revenues have been down by a lot and they've just been blasted out of the water by Samsung. I'm not saying the HOX suck, because I'm not--I think it's better than the S3 (personal preference, of course), but whether it's bad planning, bad marketing, bad implementation, whatever: it's clear that the HOX is struggling against the S3 and HTC isn't doing that well.
With that said, with all the hype around moar cores! gimme moar cores!, if HTC really can muster out a quad-core and hype it up enough, it would be wondrous.
The Tegra 3 HTC One X is terrible compared to my HTC One XL, I live in the UK and thank god a seller was selling the HTC One XL (Telsra) here.
The heat on the Tegra 3 is ridiculous, plus having a higher clock and LTE is gonna kill that phone faster. Not to mention the battery life is already sh*t on the Tegra 3 ver.
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
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Pretty much this. Plus in all benchmark tests the S4 version of the One X outperformed the Tegra3 version hands down. The marketing for the quadcore is just a marketing gimmick. At least for smartphones, more cores doesn't not equal better/faster.
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Sorry for this reply, need 1 more post to be able to post on android dev forum.
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New Snapdragon S4 quad core benchmarked.

And wow.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/?m=false
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Put it in s4!
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Over 7500 quadrant, Jesus...
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TJBunch1228 said:
Over 7500 quadrant, Jesus...
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Even if it's a quadrant score, supposedly doubling the power and ability of the T3 and even leaves the dual core S4 in it's trail.
That's some serious power.
No Way!
That is just Nuts. Technology is just moving soo fast.
I've been saying it all along-if you want a true generational leap above 2011 processors, Quad core Krait + Adreno 320 or A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 are the way to go. I can't believe how glad I am that I've held out with my Sensation while upgrade addicts have SG3s and One Xs for the next few years (unless they upgrade again). And don't kid yourself-these SoCs will be used for no less than 5" full 1080p displays.
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only got one word to say; WOOOOOWWWWWWW
Apparently they're selling the developer's tablet with this processor for $1300.
cool but we will see this next year not this year.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/qualcomms-quadcore-snapdragon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Great performance preview of this. As excited as I am for this, I'm honestly worried that the GPU may not be as impressive as I was hoping. The iPad still appears to be the king of the GPU hill, so although Adreno 320 is a step forward from Adreno 225, it still isn't "blown-away" status, unlike the CPU. Now this isn't a final version of what we will see in consumer products, so maybe there's more to be seen, but I'm already beginning to wonder if A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 will be a better combination (assuming Mali T-604 lives up to the hype that it will blow all other GPUs out of the water). Then again, we're not sure what will appear on only tablets and what will appear on phones as well, and both should be plenty powerful, so maybe it won't matter which one will be better.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/qualcomms-quadcore-snapdragon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Great performance preview of this. As excited as I am for this, I'm honestly worried that the GPU may not be as impressive as I was hoping. The iPad still appears to be the king of the GPU hill, so although Adreno 320 is a step forward from Adreno 225, it still isn't "blown-away" status, unlike the CPU. Now this isn't a final version of what we will see in consumer products, so maybe there's more to be seen, but I'm already beginning to wonder if A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 will be a better combination (assuming Mali T-604 lives up to the hype that it will blow all other GPUs out of the water). Then again, we're not sure what will appear on only tablets and what will appear on phones as well, and both should be plenty powerful, so maybe it won't matter which one will be better.
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If Android only came on one tablet from one manufacturer, you could optimize the hell out of the software to take full advantage of the hardware. But that's not the case. For Apple, it is.
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If Android only came on one tablet from one manufacturer, you could optimize the hell out of the software to take full advantage of the hardware. But that's not the case. For Apple, it is.
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It's a price to pay. A price well paid from us all.
Absolutely ridiculous.... as for the price tag.
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Absolutely ridiculous.... as for the price tag.
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That's a development tablet for you.
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That is insane. I was pretty proud of my rezound 6 or 7 months ago. Apples and oranges.
Personally I don't game on my phone though, so at a point I gotta wonder when enough is enough.
paintball23456 said:
cool but we will see this next year not this year.
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We will see it this year.
KingKuba13 said:
We will see it this year.
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We won't. Period
send from my brain to your con
The Janitor Mop said:
I've been saying it all along-if you want a true generational leap above 2011 processors, Quad core Krait + Adreno 320 or A15 Exynos + Mali T-604 are the way to go. I can't believe how glad I am that I've held out with my Sensation while upgrade addicts have SG3s and One Xs for the next few years (unless they upgrade again). And don't kid yourself-these SoCs will be used for no less than 5" full 1080p displays.
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If its adreno 320...
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It will kill more than 20 adreno 200's!!!
I wonder what the benchmarks of processors will be in 10 years from now.... That will be great to see.
This is amazingly ridiculous in terms of power. Surely, this is wonderful for the development of hardware but there must be some focus on letting everything else follow. When will there be a battery that can actually withstand this power? I would love having the power and more than 24 hours of battery life at the same time.

im angry at asus, suggest another tablet?

im quite angry at asus for issues with my TF700, how they supply the tools to void your warranty on a bootloader thats unfixable with any means so that they can charge people to reflash the bootloaders... it makes me angry that theyd do this...
i really liked the features of this tablet.. 1080P+ screen, tegra 3 processor, great cameras with flash... but now im just really disappointed, and i want something thatll actually allow me to work with custom roms, i wanted to get all of the useless nonsense off my tablet, strip it down to the features i only cares about and not have tons of bloatware...
are there any tablets of equal performance and hardware features that is more friendly towards this?
the acer A700 looked nice but i really like the LED flash, makes great pictures even better, and i used it as a flashlight too
i see googles coming out with a nexus 10, but since these are made by asus i have a feeling theyre going to have the same problems, also, i dont believe its a tegra 3 processor?
what would your recommendations be?
Erm, maybe a Nexus 10?
Btw, someone is going to give you a link to this thread anyway, so I'll just save them the trouble: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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actually.. i just read a nexus 10 is made by samsung, not asus... interesting... hmm, how does the nexus 10s processor stand up to a 1.6ghz tegra 3 though?
jason41987 said:
actually.. i just read a nexus 10 is made by samsung, not asus... interesting... hmm, how does the nexus 10s processor stand up to a 1.6ghz tegra 3 though?
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It has an Exynos 5250. Quad-Core 1.7 GHz ARM15 (!). Yes, ARM15. Total monster processor. No mobile CPU beats it
There's a catch. Cyanogenmod dropped official support for all Exynos CPUs, but that shouldn't be a problem because it's a Nexus device, so you should expect a ridiculous amount of development and plenty of unofficial CM
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It has an Exynos 5250. Quad-Core 1.7 GHz ARM15 (!). Yes, ARM15. Total monster processor. No mobile CPU beats it
There's a catch. Cyanogenmod dropped official support for all Exynos CPUs, but that shouldn't be a problem because it's a Nexus device, so you should expect a ridiculous amount of development and plenty of unofficial CM
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so in short... the nexus 10 is the absolute beast of a tablet that puts all tablets its size to shame... with a higher resolution screen is it the true ipad killer people have been wanting?
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so in short... the nexus 10 is the absolute beast of a tablet that puts all tablets its size to shame... with a higher resolution screen is it the true ipad killer people have been wanting?
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Oh heck yes baby!
Problem 1... damn hard to get one in the Nexus rush 32GBs out of stock and maybe 16GB too...? Have to wait a while, but that's a good thing to let them sort out any issues with the first batch sold
Btw typo, the CPU is dual core, the GPU is quad core
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