Does anyone know or heard if there are any plans for a tegra or tegra 2 based phone coming for sprint? I read that nvidia is focusing their tegra 2 chips on android so this would be a nice combination for a phone.
Anyone know anything?? I'm interested in this as well.
Sprints main manufacturers for phones are Samsung and HTC.
HTC=Qualcomm love.
Samsung=Makes their own SoCs.
Motorola uses different types of SoCs. They've used Qualcomm, TI, and they're planning Tegra 2 phones. But Motorola mainly uses TI SoCs.
If Sprint lands a deal with LG, LG is also planning Tegra phones. Right now, we'll see what happens. Qualcomm or Samsung might come out with something that can rival or beat out Tegra 2 by the time Tegra 2 starts to really show up in phones.
I know Sprint will be getting some dual-core ARM processor phones, but I would say we can look forward to some Tegra 2s since this is what google is basing their builds off of.
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No terga 2. Soon Samsung S2.
Motorola Photon 4g
I am trying to decide between the Photon and the EVO 3d.
Anyone have some input?
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Personally the 3d wasn't for me. I didn't like the 3d, had crappy reception and slow data speeds. I wasn't the only one with these problems. You can check that out in the forums. So I traded it in b4 the 30 days and now am waiting for the photon or gs2. I'm undecided. I wonder how the tegra 2 is compared to exynos?.
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From the limited amount of info I have read the exynos is supposed to be better.
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Samsung said all along they wouldn't have enough Exynos chips for worldwide distribution but nobody expected an alternate to be used in the U.S. Interesting choice.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/07/06/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-with-tegra-2-cpu-not-exynos/
Edit: All the online rags picked up the SGSZ getting FCC approval as meaning it was supposed to be AT&T's SGS2. Turns out that's not true so I changed the title of this post from its original "AT&T SGS2 to use 1Ghz Tegra 2."
i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
It just shows the i903 model with AT&T bands... but this doesn't mean anything about what chip it has.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Tegra based Super Amoled Plus phone... I just don't see it here other then speculation. It would be perfect if it has quadband HSPA for Tmobile and AT&T.
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i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
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The Attain (AT&T's SGS2) is late and the Tegra SGS2 was just pushed through the FCC with model codes that map to the AT&T version of the SGS1. It could fall apart but it kind of makes sense with the shortage of Exynos chips and Tegra being cheaper lowering AT&T's costs.
I will buy European model only....
i9103 is the Galaxy Z.
All the news sources are idiots and keep parroting each other with the wrong info.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
oh yea I saw that. SLCD Tegra 2...
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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jrwingate6 said:
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
Wikipedia lists the SGSII as a Tegra 2 device "in some regions", it's been listed that way for at least the month or so since I first saw it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_2#Tegra_2_series
peacekeeper05 said:
Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
nraudigy2 said:
GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Well, that confirms it. ATT got the **** end of the stick with weaker hardware.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Of the Galaxy Z, which is this phone that you all seem to think is an SGS II.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
jrwingate6 said:
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The Exynos has a faster CPU but a weaker dual core GPU
The Tegra 2 has a weaker CPU but a more powerful quad core GPU.
In reality, you probably won't see the performance differences as much as games stuttering. It does do some things well, like accelerated browsing and flash playback. But these things can be duplicated and probably will. It's like Benchmarking Quake 3 on newer ATI and Nvidia cards... sure one may be 15 fps faster, but when your running something at 400+ fps what does it matter? Both CPU/GPU combos are quick. My Nexus One ran Android great.
The reason why I went Tegra 2 are for 2 reasons:
1. All of the tablets coming out are Tegra 2's. So if the next version of Android (Ice Cream) comes out, Google will make sure Tegra's are sitting pretty. With Ice Cream allowing GPU OS components, it will be harder to make sure all the apps work with off the wall side processors and graphics processors.... Maybe everything will just work. I dunno but my logic is that the more tegra devices the more support you'd get.
2. Android is fragmented. Tegra is trying to solve that. They aren't trying to sell a new phones with 1000 different processors and GPU combinations. They are trying to stabilize and pump up the development community. For that I give my support. If Tegra's can become the mainstream GPU for Android, then imagine all the games and apps we'd have.
jrwingate6 said:
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The less powerful one did ~4000 quadrant stock.
Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
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Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
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Couldn't wait for tmo sgs2, jumped ship from tmobile/g2x to att and got the euro sgs2. One advantage is att doesn't recognize the sgs2 imei and we can use the $15 unlimited data for non smart phones.
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At least this confirms my decision to pick up the G2x in regards to the Sensation or the US SGS2.
The Sensation was slowest right out of the gate and didn't offer anything impressive enough to pick. The toughest choice was between the G2x and SGS2, Tegra vs Super Amoled Plus.
Now if the Tmo SGS2 has a Super Amoled Plus screen and Tegra 2, I'd use my upgrade for that. But when it finally releases we'll probably be hearing a lot about Tegra 3 phones and Ice Cream.
I might just sit on my G2x for a while and wait it out.
My bad. I started this thread after reading all the U.S. online rags saying the AT&T SGS2 was going to be Tegra. They all ran stories after the "i9103" (the SGS2 is i9100) got FCC approval. Like someone said above, the Tegra phone, i9103, is the SGSZ and the one GSM Arena reviewed. So having been approved by the FCC it might be coming to some North American carrier but it's definitely not going to be AT&T's SGS2.
The SGS2's 2.3.4 update got leaked a couple of days ago and in it a dev found code for AT&T LTE as well as their custom 4G icons for the notification bar. So, based on that, I'd guess they're getting the original SGS2 and it's probably going to be their first LTE phone. They're launching LTE in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Atlanta and Chicago this Summer so I'd guess it'll launch in the next two months.
Sorry I didn't correct this thread earlier, I forgot I posted it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330
ZTE, which is owned by NVIDIA, has announced the release of a new Tegra 2 phone named Mimosa X, in the 2nd quarter of 2012, which will come with ICS http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Mimosa-X_id6945
Will that enable providing hardware acceleration, and other abilities for the G2X/P999 if NVIDIA and LG hasn't providing ICS for the Optimus 2X/P990 and the G2X/P999 by then?
Core Memory said:
ZTE, which is owned by NVIDIA, has announced the release of a new Tegra 2 phone named Mimosa X, in the 2nd quarter of 2012, which will come with ICS http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Mimosa-X_id6945
Will that enable providing hardware acceleration, and other abilities for the G2X/P999 if NVIDIA and LG hasn't providing ICS for the Optimus 2X/P990 and the G2X/P999 by then?
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I was wondering the same exact thing. I doubt it's going to use the same version of the Tegra 2 as the G2x though.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
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I was wondering the same exact thing. I doubt it's going to use the same version of the Tegra 2 as the G2x though.
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Why? As far as we know, there are two Tegra 2 SOCs, one that basically is used in tablets, and one that has been used in phones.
I know we're all just guessing until more information is released but my assumption its that its am implementation of the Tegra 2 reference platform and that is mostly the same device as its bretheren, minus the cellular modem, as it contains one from a company that nVidia just bought.
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I was wondering the same exact thing. I doubt it's going to use the same version of the Tegra 2 as the G2x though.
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Lolwut, there are only two versions of tegra 2, one for tablets, one for phones. Also, the Galaxy R is a tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to be getting ICS on release.
IRASadPanda said:
Lolwut, there are only two versions of tegra 2, one for tablets, one for phones. Also, the Galaxy R is a tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to be getting ICS on release.
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Well what if they used the tablet version of the tegra on the phone? You never know. lol
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Well what if they used the tablet version of the tegra on the phone? You never know. lol
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I highly doubt they would use the tablet version of the Tegra 2 for their phone because it would require a lot of new work which has already been done for the one currently used in phones. As well, NVIDIA won't be producing a different Tegra 2 because the cost of redesigning the chip and reworking their silicon foundry to produce it would be an unnecessary and huge cost for a SOC they already produce and now have superceded with the Tegra 3 and are in the process of developing much higher capability and more energy efficient chips. I looked at NVIDIA's literature about what they've got planned and the Tegra 3 is, like the Tegra 2, just another short-lived step along the way.
I was thinking is it hard for devs to make ROMS for phones utilizing Tegra? I've heard Atrix/Atrix 4G and Optimus 2X were harder to build ROMS and mods due to the Tegra which shows less dev support opposed to Qualcomn or Exynos powered phones. I just want to know that is it true? Been thinking of getting a One X or Optimus 4X HD as the GS3 dissapointed me.
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Because this architecture is very expensive. As someone here wrote, most of the people at xda is less than 18 years. They can not afford to buy the latest equipment on the market. In time, they will cheap and appears more custom roms.
According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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Who cares, it's a damn phone
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bloodrain954 said:
Who cares, it's a damn phone
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Lol that was awesome.
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I don't want the Tegra 3 with LTE, I want the quad core Snapdragon S4 with LTE. At the least, however, the quad core should only have additional power drain from two cores running, not from either needing another chip for LTE or some other arcane issue like that.
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According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
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Two X?
corythug said:
Lol that was awesome.
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Yeah it was. Man, he got me.
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But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not.
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This.
Though I'm not a banker by occupation, I invest and follow the stock markets closely, especially in the tech industries and HTC has been taking a beating recently. Part of it was the injunction dished out which caused the HOX ban, but revenues have been down by a lot and they've just been blasted out of the water by Samsung. I'm not saying the HOX suck, because I'm not--I think it's better than the S3 (personal preference, of course), but whether it's bad planning, bad marketing, bad implementation, whatever: it's clear that the HOX is struggling against the S3 and HTC isn't doing that well.
With that said, with all the hype around moar cores! gimme moar cores!, if HTC really can muster out a quad-core and hype it up enough, it would be wondrous.
The Tegra 3 HTC One X is terrible compared to my HTC One XL, I live in the UK and thank god a seller was selling the HTC One XL (Telsra) here.
The heat on the Tegra 3 is ridiculous, plus having a higher clock and LTE is gonna kill that phone faster. Not to mention the battery life is already sh*t on the Tegra 3 ver.
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
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Pretty much this. Plus in all benchmark tests the S4 version of the One X outperformed the Tegra3 version hands down. The marketing for the quadcore is just a marketing gimmick. At least for smartphones, more cores doesn't not equal better/faster.
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anyone noticed this? toshiba, acer, asus, htc, etc. i wonder if is cause its cheaper or nvidia brand
Most likely because it's cheaper. Tegra 3 is currently going through what Tegra 2 did. It's really just a cheap way for manufacturers to say they have a quad core device and not pay much. It's really a horrible SoC, especially compared to the exynos 4412 or krait s4. And once ti comes out with omap 5 or whatever it is Tegra will be obsolete. Again.
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And their exclusive tegra 3 graphics enhancements, which is one of their biggest selling point..
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mox123 said:
anyone noticed this? toshiba, acer, asus, htc, etc. i wonder if is cause its cheaper or nvidia brand
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i really enjoy my tf300t tegra 3 device and to be honest i low the price point for the power i think they may think the same thing why make a device no one can afford.