Samsung said all along they wouldn't have enough Exynos chips for worldwide distribution but nobody expected an alternate to be used in the U.S. Interesting choice.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/07/06/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-with-tegra-2-cpu-not-exynos/
Edit: All the online rags picked up the SGSZ getting FCC approval as meaning it was supposed to be AT&T's SGS2. Turns out that's not true so I changed the title of this post from its original "AT&T SGS2 to use 1Ghz Tegra 2."
i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
It just shows the i903 model with AT&T bands... but this doesn't mean anything about what chip it has.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Tegra based Super Amoled Plus phone... I just don't see it here other then speculation. It would be perfect if it has quadband HSPA for Tmobile and AT&T.
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i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
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The Attain (AT&T's SGS2) is late and the Tegra SGS2 was just pushed through the FCC with model codes that map to the AT&T version of the SGS1. It could fall apart but it kind of makes sense with the shortage of Exynos chips and Tegra being cheaper lowering AT&T's costs.
I will buy European model only....
i9103 is the Galaxy Z.
All the news sources are idiots and keep parroting each other with the wrong info.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
oh yea I saw that. SLCD Tegra 2...
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
Wikipedia lists the SGSII as a Tegra 2 device "in some regions", it's been listed that way for at least the month or so since I first saw it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_2#Tegra_2_series
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Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Well, that confirms it. ATT got the **** end of the stick with weaker hardware.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Of the Galaxy Z, which is this phone that you all seem to think is an SGS II.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
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I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The Exynos has a faster CPU but a weaker dual core GPU
The Tegra 2 has a weaker CPU but a more powerful quad core GPU.
In reality, you probably won't see the performance differences as much as games stuttering. It does do some things well, like accelerated browsing and flash playback. But these things can be duplicated and probably will. It's like Benchmarking Quake 3 on newer ATI and Nvidia cards... sure one may be 15 fps faster, but when your running something at 400+ fps what does it matter? Both CPU/GPU combos are quick. My Nexus One ran Android great.
The reason why I went Tegra 2 are for 2 reasons:
1. All of the tablets coming out are Tegra 2's. So if the next version of Android (Ice Cream) comes out, Google will make sure Tegra's are sitting pretty. With Ice Cream allowing GPU OS components, it will be harder to make sure all the apps work with off the wall side processors and graphics processors.... Maybe everything will just work. I dunno but my logic is that the more tegra devices the more support you'd get.
2. Android is fragmented. Tegra is trying to solve that. They aren't trying to sell a new phones with 1000 different processors and GPU combinations. They are trying to stabilize and pump up the development community. For that I give my support. If Tegra's can become the mainstream GPU for Android, then imagine all the games and apps we'd have.
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I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The less powerful one did ~4000 quadrant stock.
Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
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Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
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Couldn't wait for tmo sgs2, jumped ship from tmobile/g2x to att and got the euro sgs2. One advantage is att doesn't recognize the sgs2 imei and we can use the $15 unlimited data for non smart phones.
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At least this confirms my decision to pick up the G2x in regards to the Sensation or the US SGS2.
The Sensation was slowest right out of the gate and didn't offer anything impressive enough to pick. The toughest choice was between the G2x and SGS2, Tegra vs Super Amoled Plus.
Now if the Tmo SGS2 has a Super Amoled Plus screen and Tegra 2, I'd use my upgrade for that. But when it finally releases we'll probably be hearing a lot about Tegra 3 phones and Ice Cream.
I might just sit on my G2x for a while and wait it out.
My bad. I started this thread after reading all the U.S. online rags saying the AT&T SGS2 was going to be Tegra. They all ran stories after the "i9103" (the SGS2 is i9100) got FCC approval. Like someone said above, the Tegra phone, i9103, is the SGSZ and the one GSM Arena reviewed. So having been approved by the FCC it might be coming to some North American carrier but it's definitely not going to be AT&T's SGS2.
The SGS2's 2.3.4 update got leaked a couple of days ago and in it a dev found code for AT&T LTE as well as their custom 4G icons for the notification bar. So, based on that, I'd guess they're getting the original SGS2 and it's probably going to be their first LTE phone. They're launching LTE in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Atlanta and Chicago this Summer so I'd guess it'll launch in the next two months.
Sorry I didn't correct this thread earlier, I forgot I posted it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330
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So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
LucasBrazil1984 said:
So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
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I'm wondering the same thing. It's confusing where this device will be supported (hopefully a mod can post a thread for the device if necessary).
Possibly, but man 200 is too much for that phone. Its only marginally better than the Captivate. They should be introducing the Galaxy S2. I would hold out for that rather then jump on this phone. This phone will phase out our beloved Captivate.
Infuse and Galaxy S II
Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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nope.
it's froyo.
it's single core cpu.
it's 4.5" instead of 4.3"
I would hold out the next few months for the S2. The captivate is still a very good phone.
xredjokerx said:
No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
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Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
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Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
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well the drawback of the cappy is the lack of a camera flash. though the cammera does way better in low light than many phones out there, a flash is nice for the close range shots in near total darkness. like in a club or something. also gsm arena and others are frequently wrong. one of those sites was saying that the i9010 armani had a front facing camera, they basically borrowed the spec sheet from the i9000 assuming it was the same in but in a captivate form factor. right now all the sites are woring off rumors and assuptions. not official specifications
the best assumption is that the processor is at minimum the same series because the orrigonal ad from janurary has the word hummingbird in it. but that doesnt mean the same part number or specifications or that the add from janurary even reflects the actual features. at that time the form of the phone wasnt even final, the battery door hadn't been finalized. then the back of the phone was smooth and now it is textured and looks like the sgs2 but bigger. it is posible specs have changed and maybe why the samsung site and att use the words "powerful 1.2 ghz application processor" without a name or series or description beyond that.
there are also alternatives to the galaxy s coming out with the qualcom scorpion/snapdragon chips clocked at 1.4 ghz(they need to be that fast to get the 3d graphics up to par with our chip because the adreno 205 is not quite as fast as the powervr sgx540 wth open gl). these phones will have 1080p recording and playback, similar or marginally faster 3d graphics and way faster cpu. there will be the galaxy s plus and the galaxy s 2 mini running on this chip (supposedly) so there is even a chance that the infuse will have a qualcom chip of some kind. it should get announces very soon officially. a rumor was there is a conference in nyc with samsung and att today presumably to unveil it with updated/officail specs
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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One's the best smartphone on the planet, the other is a pile of crap that should have come out last year.
What do you think?
Thanks
xredjokerx said:
No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
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Thanks I thought it was a different name for the same phone. I was waiting for the Infuse thinking it was the Galaxy S II. Guess I'll have to keep waiting.
What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
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What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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I doubt its the same modem hardware. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.
there was new modem hardware in th egalaxy s 4g so id say there is a slim chance of that.
AT&T to allow third-party apps on Infuse! Changing policy on future phones as well?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20060485-251.html
im gonna go see if i can pre order one today. the phone was announced for the 15th so we'll see.
i can always return it for another captivate. i may regret screwing myself out of a sgs2 but i dont think there is much on that phone i will need to have. i guess i could buy a sgs2 outright if i really get an itch for it. if i get one id rather have the international model anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-infuse-4g-hands-on-0/#4112730
eww! shiney metalic plasitcs! why samsung? why? i may just pay for an sgs2 out of pocket after seeing that!
joebw said:
What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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You do realize the difference between hardware and software right?
syl0n said:
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
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It's not cheap on ebay!
http://m.samsung.com/us/article/explore-the-galaxy-s-ii
Only phone that will make me jump ship.....maybe lol also if u read we are getting the monster 4.5 inch screen
Dog by the time it drops 1.5 ghz will be here.. Won't really be cutting edge any more.
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Yea true, but dude 1ghz and 1.5 ghz is only a little noticeably different, what I mean is g2x is sick quick how much faster can we get? lol ya know, still got some mean specs tho and I'm guessing cuz of the overseas version everything should be pretty easy to port over
To me we have reached the zenith of specs in the android world (albeit that will be for a short period of time). Will it have active development is the real issue to me. This phone has proven you can have killer specs yet little interest from the developer community. I wasn't here in the beginning but I have a feeling all the problems the first batch of this phone had scared everyone away and scared anyone wanting to get it away from doing so.
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I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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Just an odd question - Why so much discussion on the SGSII in the G2x forum?
Not that I'm not interested in that phone, just that it seems out of place.
phaet2112 said:
I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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Yep, T-Mobile wants to brag about speeds no one will get to use even if it means destroying beautiful hardware in the process. No wonder the company is struggling.
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phaet2112 said:
I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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Where did u hear that I'd like to see that and I'm sure that's something small they could change believe me, and jaiav just something to bull**** about man
How does this phone have no interest in the developer community lol. Do you not read the p999 specific commits in cm? We have mui builds, some of the most gifted kernel devs. Sensation has a bunch of similar roms with asthetic changes and no cm.
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Where did u hear that I'd like to see that and I'm sure that's something small they could change believe me, and jaiav just something to bull**** about man
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Here you go bro, these guys are legit.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4714/why-i-believe-tmobiles-galaxy-s-ii-uses-a-qualcomm-soc
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I thought exnos doesn't support 42mbs which is what Tmo wants, so it'll be qualcomm...
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The Exynos is the cpu. The speed of data is controlled by the baseband. You'll have to wait and see what baseband chip they use in it.
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The Exynos is the cpu. The speed of data is controlled by the baseband. You'll have to wait and see what baseband chip they use in it.
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The problem has something to do with the Exynos using the Intel modem which doesn't support 42Mbps.
mr mystery said:
The problem has something to do with the Exynos using the Intel modem which doesn't support 42Mbps.
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This is what I read. Probably easier to just swap in a different processor than to create a compatibility between Exynos and a new baseband chip.
There are no baseband chips that support 42Mbps. The fastest one that I know of is the Qualcomm baseband used in the G2X which support 21Mbps.
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There are no baseband chips that support 42Mbps. The fastest one that I know of is the Qualcomm baseband used in the G2X which support 21Mbps.
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The tmobile rocket modem supports 42.
KingDavid63 said:
Dog by the time it drops 1.5 ghz will be here.. Won't really be cutting edge any more.
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Just what I was thinking. It's tempting to get the phone, but Prime will come soon after.
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Unfortunately, if T-Mobile is really pushing the 42mbps feature on this phone, it'll be using some variant of the Qualcomm chip, either 1.2 ghz or 1.5 ghz dual-core (some folks at the Galaxy S4G forums allegedly was informed by a rep that it will be sporting a 1.5ghz chip from Qualcomm).
If it is indeed a Qualcomm chip, I strongly suggest you guys pass, cause I know I will. If I'm not mistaken, all these phone chips are all-in-one, meaning that the GPU on the T-Mobile variant will sport some form of Adreno, maybe the 220 as found in the Touchpad?
What made the european version of the GS2 a beast was the custom drivers written by Samsung for the Exynos and its GPU. GPU-acceleration! If they swap over to Qualcomm, I'm not holding my breath for Samsung to spend money writing a custom GPU driver to push for GPU acceleration under the Qualcomm framework. If anything, to compensate for the lack of GPU acceleration, they're likely to just chuck a 1.5 ghz Qualcomm chip in there (which lends some credit to what the other guys are saying at the Galaxy S4G forum).
Just some of my thoughts. It's looking like the T-Mobile variant of the GS2 might be the weakest of the lot this time around.
Exynos > Snapdragon any day, week, year.
P.S. I've also played with the European version of the GS2 for a couple of months and boy is that phone awesome.
PoisonWolf said:
Unfortunately, if T-Mobile is really pushing the 42mbps feature on this phone, it'll be using some variant of the Qualcomm chip, either 1.2 ghz or 1.5 ghz dual-core (some folks at the Galaxy S4G forums allegedly was informed by a rep that it will be sporting a 1.5ghz chip from Qualcomm).
If it is indeed a Qualcomm chip, I strongly suggest you guys pass, cause I know I will. If I'm not mistaken, all these phone chips are all-in-one, meaning that the GPU on the T-Mobile variant will sport some form of Adreno, maybe the 220 as found in the Touchpad?
What made the european version of the GS2 a beast was the custom drivers written by Samsung for the Exynos and its GPU. GPU-acceleration! If they swap over to Qualcomm, I'm not holding my breath for Samsung to spend money writing a custom GPU driver to push for GPU acceleration under the Qualcomm framework. If anything, to compensate for the lack of GPU acceleration, they're likely to just chuck a 1.5 ghz Qualcomm chip in there (which lends some credit to what the other guys are saying at the Galaxy S4G forum).
Just some of my thoughts. It's looking like the T-Mobile variant of the GS2 might be the weakest of the lot this time around.
Exynos > Snapdragon any day, week, year.
P.S. I've also played with the European version of the GS2 for a couple of months and boy is that phone awesome.
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I really hope if it is a Qualcomm crap CPU that the sales are extremely poor. Sadly though the general public knows squat and it will most likely still sell well with the galaxy name attached to it, even though it really doesn't deserve that title.
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If we get the **** one out if the batch I'm gonna be pissed. But it looks more and more like that's gonna be the case. I'm pissed.
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If we get the **** one out if the batch I'm gonna be pissed. But it looks more and more like that's gonna be the case. I'm pissed.
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This is why T-Mobile is struggling and the reason only AT&T was willing to buy them. Management is pathetic.
Looks like we'll be loosing some more Captivate users next week. Between these two phones it's going to be a tough call on which one to pick up.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/31/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-lte-skyrocket-landing-on-att-november-6th-for-250/
Also looks like att is going to see quite a few returned s2's for the lte version.
hilarity ensues
Well, it put more refurbed s2's out there. Makes it better if you have an upgrade coming up.
Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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Looks like I know what my next phone (and Christmas present...to myself....) is going to be...
HTC VIVID, here I come!
EDIT: Still wish I could switch to Verizon... At least they have LTE where I live, while ATT doesn't even have universal 3G coverage here.
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Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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While i'm just guessing, i'm thinking it will haves the same processor as the TMo version of the S2(ever which one that may be) because of the screen size.
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Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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Looks like its the Exynos 4212, but I haven't seen any articles specifically confirming this.
Unless you live on Mars, At&T doesn't have LTE yet. I jumped ship to Verizon and they don't have it it all markets yet either. Why bother?
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Unless you live on Mars, At&T doesn't have LTE yet. I jumped ship to Verizon and they don't have it it all markets yet either. Why bother?
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I live in San Antonio, we've got LTE here. Oh wait.....this might actually be Mars.
Anyone heard what the chipset is on the Vivid yet? While the 1.5 GHz Exynos is appealing; I don't think I can take it being on a Samsung phone anymore. I'm thinking I'd rather have the 1.2 GHz Vivid so I can jump to HTC.
Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.
Isure wish it was the Galaxy S II HD LTE instead. Same specs but with the 4.65 display instead.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
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Anyone heard what the chipset is on the Vivid yet? While the 1.5 GHz Exynos is appealing; I don't think I can take it being on a Samsung phone anymore. I'm thinking I'd rather have the 1.2 GHz Vivid so I can jump to HTC.
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All I know is that it's a dual core.
I'm in very much the same boat as you; although the mod community can make the Captivate better than crap, one's got to admit that staying on Samsung stock would be 100% unbearable.
On the other hand, my close friend has an Inspire 4G, which I have borrowed for an extended period of time now; that's been a dream to use, be it Sense 2 or Sense 3.
Bowsa2511 said:
Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.
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Don't forget that these are not the first LTE phones anymore... Verizon has released plenty of them from the same manufacturers, and these are almost a full hardware "generation" removed from the Thunderbolt Desire HD and the Droid Charge already.
This thing has a Qualcomm processor and the same resolution as the sgs2, once again ....both downgrades.
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This thing has a Qualcomm processor and the same resolution as the sgs2, once again ....both downgrades.
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The proc type has not been verified. If its an Exynos it'll be faster than sh!t sliding off a shovel!
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Bowsa2511 said:
Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.
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If upgrading right now, why get the SGSII instead of a Skyrocket or Vivid?
I'm debating which as well. I'm just worried about the SGSII dev support being split between the two (if hardware is different) or there not being much dev support over with the Vivid.
For myself, my phone is a benefit from my work. Which means I should probably stay on the stock ROM since they are paying for it. Not only that, but if something goes wrong during a flash and I mess up my phone I'll be in some trouble at work. Since that leaves me on Samsung's horrible upgrade cycle I'm very inclined to jump ship.
Even though these are new LTE phones for ATT I still believe it's worth it to consider them over the non LTE SGSII. If I'm going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years I would rather have LTE. Since I live in a LTE market it's even more of a draw. If anything, considering the HTC just to get away from Samsung.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to wait a month and see what the reviews are from other XDA members. If the battery life is completely horrible maybe just wait it out. Also my wife is due an update in December. If I do jump and don't like it I could always hand her down whatever I get and pick up something new when we renew her contract.
Regular SGS II is better.
Also be warned that a 4.5 inch screen is unusable.
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Regular SGS II is better.
Also be warned that a 4.5 inch screen is unusable.
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Mikey has small fingers so unusable for him lol
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Which phone (or phones if there is a close battle) currently has the most roms, tweaks and support on xda?
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Probably the Nexus devices (One, S, Galaxy), Samsung GSII (because it sold so many units), and the more powerful/best selling HTC devices (Evo 4G, G2/DZ, etc.).
Just browse the forums you'll quickly see which phones have a vibrant dev community.
HTC's HD2. There is no device with Development anywhere near it
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Probably the Nexus devices (One, S, Galaxy), Samsung GSII (because it sold so many units), and the more powerful/best selling HTC devices (Evo 4G, G2/DZ, etc.).
Just browse the forums you'll quickly see which phones have a vibrant dev community.
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Thanks for that dude! Decided on next phone, can't go to far wrong with the samsungs. I want a nice variety of custom roms on this one!
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HTC's HD2. There is no device with Development anywhere near it
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Preferably something vaguely current... although I had a peek in the hd2 dev forum and it's still busy!
Actually after reading up on the specs this is still a good phone, especially for one released in 2009! Nearly same specs as my xperia play!
It might not be the cream-of-the-crop anymore, but Development-wise it smokes every other device out there. Performance is still admirable, too
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It might not be the cream-of-the-crop anymore, but Development-wise it smokes every other device out there. Performance is still admirable, too
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It goes to show that all the talk of quad cores and such is all nonsense. Fewer faster cores is the way to go at the moment. Hardware has far surpassed software.
cajunflavoredbob said:
It goes to show that all the talk of quad cores and such is all nonsense. Fewer faster cores is the way to go at the moment. Hardware has far surpassed software.
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It's at the point where 'we can't upgrade the software version, so we better give them something new'.
MOAR COREZ!!!!111!!oneoneroflcopter!!
juzz86 said:
It's at the point where 'we can't upgrade the software version, so we better give them something new'.
MOAR COREZ!!!!111!!oneoneroflcopter!!
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Exactly. There is more talk and excitement over the Tegra 3 than over the MUCH faster Snapdragon S4. The only reason the Tegra 3 gets more attention is because idiots believe that Android is actually capable of using the other two cores. Breaking News: It can't. ICS improved support for dual cores. It still doesn't fully utilize dual cores at the moment. All it can do currently with quad core devices is recognize the other two cores. It cannot actually use them for anything. Ignorance breeds stupidity when untreated.
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I'm personally hanging for Krait
juzz86 said:
I'm personally hanging for Krait
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Yep. The S4 seems promising already. I prefer Adreno anyway.
htc hd2 or galaxy II
S4 over T3 for me.
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Go to forums home and see number of threads and posts oposite to each of devices.
You will quickly get idea.
According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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Who cares, it's a damn phone
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bloodrain954 said:
Who cares, it's a damn phone
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Lol that was awesome.
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I don't want the Tegra 3 with LTE, I want the quad core Snapdragon S4 with LTE. At the least, however, the quad core should only have additional power drain from two cores running, not from either needing another chip for LTE or some other arcane issue like that.
BarryH_GEG said:
According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
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Two X?
corythug said:
Lol that was awesome.
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Yeah it was. Man, he got me.
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BarryH_GEG said:
But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not.
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This.
Though I'm not a banker by occupation, I invest and follow the stock markets closely, especially in the tech industries and HTC has been taking a beating recently. Part of it was the injunction dished out which caused the HOX ban, but revenues have been down by a lot and they've just been blasted out of the water by Samsung. I'm not saying the HOX suck, because I'm not--I think it's better than the S3 (personal preference, of course), but whether it's bad planning, bad marketing, bad implementation, whatever: it's clear that the HOX is struggling against the S3 and HTC isn't doing that well.
With that said, with all the hype around moar cores! gimme moar cores!, if HTC really can muster out a quad-core and hype it up enough, it would be wondrous.
The Tegra 3 HTC One X is terrible compared to my HTC One XL, I live in the UK and thank god a seller was selling the HTC One XL (Telsra) here.
The heat on the Tegra 3 is ridiculous, plus having a higher clock and LTE is gonna kill that phone faster. Not to mention the battery life is already sh*t on the Tegra 3 ver.
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
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Pretty much this. Plus in all benchmark tests the S4 version of the One X outperformed the Tegra3 version hands down. The marketing for the quadcore is just a marketing gimmick. At least for smartphones, more cores doesn't not equal better/faster.
ericth18 said:
Sorry for this reply, need 1 more post to be able to post on android dev forum.
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