So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
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So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
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I'm wondering the same thing. It's confusing where this device will be supported (hopefully a mod can post a thread for the device if necessary).
Possibly, but man 200 is too much for that phone. Its only marginally better than the Captivate. They should be introducing the Galaxy S2. I would hold out for that rather then jump on this phone. This phone will phase out our beloved Captivate.
Infuse and Galaxy S II
Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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nope.
it's froyo.
it's single core cpu.
it's 4.5" instead of 4.3"
I would hold out the next few months for the S2. The captivate is still a very good phone.
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No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
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Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
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Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
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well the drawback of the cappy is the lack of a camera flash. though the cammera does way better in low light than many phones out there, a flash is nice for the close range shots in near total darkness. like in a club or something. also gsm arena and others are frequently wrong. one of those sites was saying that the i9010 armani had a front facing camera, they basically borrowed the spec sheet from the i9000 assuming it was the same in but in a captivate form factor. right now all the sites are woring off rumors and assuptions. not official specifications
the best assumption is that the processor is at minimum the same series because the orrigonal ad from janurary has the word hummingbird in it. but that doesnt mean the same part number or specifications or that the add from janurary even reflects the actual features. at that time the form of the phone wasnt even final, the battery door hadn't been finalized. then the back of the phone was smooth and now it is textured and looks like the sgs2 but bigger. it is posible specs have changed and maybe why the samsung site and att use the words "powerful 1.2 ghz application processor" without a name or series or description beyond that.
there are also alternatives to the galaxy s coming out with the qualcom scorpion/snapdragon chips clocked at 1.4 ghz(they need to be that fast to get the 3d graphics up to par with our chip because the adreno 205 is not quite as fast as the powervr sgx540 wth open gl). these phones will have 1080p recording and playback, similar or marginally faster 3d graphics and way faster cpu. there will be the galaxy s plus and the galaxy s 2 mini running on this chip (supposedly) so there is even a chance that the infuse will have a qualcom chip of some kind. it should get announces very soon officially. a rumor was there is a conference in nyc with samsung and att today presumably to unveil it with updated/officail specs
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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One's the best smartphone on the planet, the other is a pile of crap that should have come out last year.
What do you think?
Thanks
xredjokerx said:
No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
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Thanks I thought it was a different name for the same phone. I was waiting for the Infuse thinking it was the Galaxy S II. Guess I'll have to keep waiting.
What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
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What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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I doubt its the same modem hardware. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.
there was new modem hardware in th egalaxy s 4g so id say there is a slim chance of that.
AT&T to allow third-party apps on Infuse! Changing policy on future phones as well?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20060485-251.html
im gonna go see if i can pre order one today. the phone was announced for the 15th so we'll see.
i can always return it for another captivate. i may regret screwing myself out of a sgs2 but i dont think there is much on that phone i will need to have. i guess i could buy a sgs2 outright if i really get an itch for it. if i get one id rather have the international model anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-infuse-4g-hands-on-0/#4112730
eww! shiney metalic plasitcs! why samsung? why? i may just pay for an sgs2 out of pocket after seeing that!
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What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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You do realize the difference between hardware and software right?
syl0n said:
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
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It's not cheap on ebay!
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interesting specs
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/05/att...e-4g-with-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus-display/
It comes with the second latest android software with an update available sometime in the next few years. Sound familiar?
It's good for Captivate owners that Samsung is producing basically another Galaxy S.
Specs are great on paper, but given the combination of nonfunctional gps, and samsung and att's refusal to release updates for my captivate, I'll be telling everyone I know to steer away of both att and samsung.
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Specs are great on paper, but given the combination of nonfunctional gps, and samsung and att's refusal to release updates for my captivate, I'll be telling everyone I know to steer away of both att and samsung.
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agreed.... Samsung can scratch my ass...
I should be getting my Dell Streak with froyo preloaded any day now. Giving the wife the craptivate.
all these new phones announced. forget about software updates for the old ones.
F""""" that!
im getting me the new motorola Atrix 4g with a dual core,1 GB of RAM and a HUGE 1930mAh battery .
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-atrix-4g-on-att-dual-core-cpu-quarter-hd-resolution
1.2 ghz ONE core? wow. we want your dual core orion, samsung.
2.2 froyo? 2.3 please. yeah upgradable to 2.3 right? how long this time?
The specs are kinda on par to Samsung Galaxy S2, so it sounds kinda real, but it has horrible specs compare to other dual core phones.
Display is Super AMOLED Plus(ugh..) which have RGB in one pixel not current pentile.
By itself, this phone can be super awesome and will silence apple fanboys.
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im getting me the new motorola Atrix 4g with a dual core,1 GB of RAM and a HUGE 1930mAh battery .
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-atrix-4g-on-att-dual-core-cpu-quarter-hd-resolution
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but Samsung phones come with free gift!! Motorola does not! Samsung phones come with free gift, free fake GPS!
htc evo 4g is being released under att with a different name.
I'm trying to decide between the Motorola Atrix and the HTC Inspire. Will likely depend on what gets root'd faster.
This is a weird feeling... A choice of phone to buy? On AT&T?! [email protected]@#$
I don't see a lot of captivate users going back to buy another samsung phone.
Well at least for me, I won't.
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I'm trying to decide between the Motorola Atrix and the HTC Inspire. Will likely depend on what gets root'd faster.
This is a weird feeling... A choice of phone to buy? On AT&T?! [email protected]@#$
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I'm leaning toward The Atrix (Olympus), HTC still not letting go of the kickstand, lol.
The only thing I will try to pull is exchange my phone for the htc inspire when it comes out.
any ideas i do have insurance and have been a in good standing customer for 4 years.
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I'm leaning toward The Atrix (Olympus), HTC still not letting go of the kickstand, lol.
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I don't mind a kickstand...
Why on earth would anyone pick an Evo rehash over the dual-core Moto?
Of course, my bet is that only the Samsung isn't locked down.
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I don't mind a kickstand...
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Certainly not a deal breaker, but I just see it first to go (broken) the way I am with phones
I hope AT&T starts rolling out these new phones soon.
Waiting for more specs like RAM and internal memory. Hope Samsung will not act miser and cripple it with less RAM.
Back to the OP, sorry..
With those rumored specs, I would say that's not really huge leap on the upgrade path.
Samsung already sold 10 million Galaxy S phones, I don't see any significant changes in there phones until numbers shows they need an upgrade. They are making so much fxxxxxx money on the "Galaxy S" line it's sick! And you think they care about the gps...
I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
panflute
I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).
People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.
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People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.
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Ain't that the truth..
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I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).
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Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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Doesn't att always remove the FM software?
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Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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HSUPA has nothing to really do with AT&T's 4g claims, it is HSDPA(which the captivate has) versus HSDPA+. It has more to do with download speed than upload. HSUPA is all about faster uploads. That is what is enabled by using an i9000 ROM, kernel, and modem. All current Galaxy S phones have HSDPA compatible modems, both physically and in software. The Captivate just got gimped without HSUPA speeds.
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Man its getting harder to keep up to. More than he crappy ass reality shows on TV.
*GalaxyS*
I'm confused by this thread. The title is a question, but the OP is a statement on getting the Atrix. How about making a question on the Captivate or go to the thread about what your future phone will be as that is older than this thread.
To upgrade or not?
And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
panflute
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And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
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If you would have made your OP a question then it would have made more sense. You made a statement that "I have to have it." The bootloader will eventually get cracked, that is only a matter of time once the phone comes out. If you like Moto phones which seem up in the air for build quality that is up to you. Spec wise the Atrix is an upgrade, but that doesn't mean the Captivate or other SGS phones will be less superior. You also have to want the larger screen size and the fact it isn't SAMOLED.
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I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
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So what your saying is a phone coming out later is going to be better then the Captivate? I would hope it will be. Way to state the obvious bud.
But no, I will not be "upgrading" from the Captivate any time soon. The Captivate can do everything I need it to right now, and when I do upgrade to a new phone, it will be to a phone that is vastly more powerful, not just a little like the Atrix. Also I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.
Upgrades upgrades upgrades....You guys will never be happy.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/nvidia-tegra-3-equipped-with-1-5ghz-quad-core-madness-teased-b/
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I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.
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QFT
+10char
Which one do you guys suggest? Which phone is better long-term?
I just want a phone that's worth getting on a 2 year contract.
If you have any better suggestions for me, Please only suggest phones between Sprint and Tmobile.
Thanks.
Galaxy have better resolution!
GamerJake0 said:
Which one do you guys suggest? Which phone is better long-term?
I just want a phone that's worth getting on a 2 year contract.
If you have any better suggestions for me, Please only suggest phones between Sprint and Tmobile.
Thanks.
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try galaxy... better battery
Sprint is getting the Nexus S 4g.
HTC all the way = Evo!
I much prefer the samsung screens, so the galaxy gets my vote. Everyone I know with an EVO has terrible battery life, as well.
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I much prefer the samsung screens, so the galaxy gets my vote. Everyone I know with an EVO has terrible battery life, as well.
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Either phone you're gonna have terrible battery life. Galaxy S devices, 4 inch super amoled screen, plus 4g.
The Galaxy S 4G is nice but app storage is low. The Evo is far worse long term.. it launched in June and it was already lagging behind the competition a month later. It's processing power is way below that of the Galaxy S 4G.
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The Galaxy S 4G is nice but app storage is low. The Evo is far worse long term.. it launched in June and it was already lagging behind the competition a month later. It's processing power is way below that of the Galaxy S 4G.
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Core for core, Snapdragon is actually faster than Cortex A8. Now it's the rest of the chip that you need to look at, such as the powerVR chip inside hummingbird being faster than the Adreno chip inside Snapdragon. Really though, their performance cpu vs cpu you'll only really notice a difference in synthetic benchmarks like linpack. Dev community is amazing for the Evo.
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Core for core, Snapdragon is actually faster than Cortex A8.
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Really? Benchmarks or real world performance? Because the Evo can't even handle TeamLava games without falling on it's face at the stock 1GHz clock.
Good news
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Well the majority of you guys are going with the galaxy s 4g.
Are there anymore suggestions/opinions on what I should get?
GamerJake0 said:
Which one do you guys suggest? Which phone is better long-term?
I just want a phone that's worth getting on a 2 year contract.
If you have any better suggestions for me, Please only suggest phones between Sprint and Tmobile.
Thanks.
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Hi,
The major difference between these two smartphone is “Data network”, Evo use “4G/WiMAX network” (Sprint) and Samsung Galaxy S use “3G GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HDMA” (T-Mobile). The screen size of Evo 4G is greater than Samsung Galaxy’s screen. Evo has 8mp camera and Galaxy has 5mp. Due to these features, my vote goes to “HTC Evo 4G”.
i like samsung more
Michael_robert said:
Hi,
The major difference between these two smartphone is “Data network”, Evo use “4G/WiMAX network” (Sprint) and Samsung Galaxy S use “3G GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HDMA” (T-Mobile). The screen size of Evo 4G is greater than Samsung Galaxy’s screen. Evo has 8mp camera and Galaxy has 5mp. Due to these features, my vote goes to “HTC Evo 4G”.
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Everyone and their grandmother knows that Samsungs 5MP camera is a billion years better than Evo's 8MP camera. You're one of those megapixel numbers persons...bigger number, better shooter.
Your lack of knowledge in that area alone disqualifies anything else you have to recommend.
Also WTH is "HDMA" ?
evo 4g all the way good pal
Thanks for your information
The modding community of the Evo is unmatched by the Galaxy S.
Also, the interface is much much better than Samsung's.
Galaxy have better resolution! ...
who cares what anybody thinks,they're both great phones with great features,just decide if you want to choose by phone or carrier and pick the one u like more ,simple....
I bought my infuse just 3 months after buying the inspire. Luckily i got the inspire for $99 however I did pay full price $599 for infuse. I didn't realize the Galaxy S 2 was out already, now i want to buy the $850 Galaxy S2. It's getting great reviews all around. I can sell my inspire for $350 and take infuse back to best buy and get back $642 with tax, and that's way more then enough to get an international Galaxy S2 without anymore money out of pocket. Has all AT&T bands so 3G and 4G will be no problem. I like my infuse, however if i got the dual core GS2 I think I'd be satisfied with the phone for at least a year rather then 6 months like usual.
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I bought my infuse just 3 months after buying the inspire. Luckily i got the inspire for $99 however I did pay full price $599 for infuse. I didn't realize the Galaxy S 2 was out already, now i want to buy the $850 Galaxy S2. It's getting great reviews all around. I can sell my inspire for $350 and take infuse back to best but and get back $642 with tax, and that's way more then enough to get an international Galaxy S2 without anymore money out of pocket. Has all AT&T bands so 3G and 4G will be no problem. I like my infuse, however if i got the dual core GS2 I think I'd be satisfied with the phone for at least a year rather then 6 months like usual.
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I just bought it. It was $849.99 with free shipping, but i upgraded to next day air lol
I'd do it if I was you. You don't need 2 phones. It's not like you can actually use both phones at the same time. So why not get the best phone out there instead of 2 good phones?
The galaxy is an amazing phone. I have both. The screen on the infuse is actually a hit better. Both devices feel amazing in hand. I like the search button on the infuse.
The speed of the gsII is no contest though. Its so fast its ridiculous. Touch Wiz4 is a marked improvement over tw3. Is it worth the $200 premium? Provably. Just not having an at&t logo might be worth that
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The galaxy is an amazing phone. I have both. The screen on the infuse is actually a hit better. Both devices feel amazing in hand. I like the search button on the infuse.
The speed of the gsII is no contest though. Its so fast its ridiculous. Touch Wiz4 is a marked improvement over tw3. Is it worth the $200 premium? Provably. Just not having an at&t logo might be worth that
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Do you think the speed is more 2.3 or the two cores? When you hold side by side what one do you want o take off with for the day?
Do you REALLY need dual core? What is the "killer app" that uses dual core currently? Personally, I think dual core will be more important in a year or two, once some actual apps (beyond games) start taking advantage of dual core architecture. Right now, I don't see app developers really relying on dual core as the best platform to develop for - too few customers have them at this point. Just my humble opinion.
I share the opinion of deathpulse.
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Do you think the speed is more 2.3 or the two cores? When you hold side by side what one do you want o take off with for the day?
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Without a doubt the SGSII.
It's a better device.
They're both great, but it's a super easy choice.
The processor is much better dual core or not.
TW4 is way way way better.
Android natively utilizes dual cores no matter what people are confused about.
So... how does a dual core make "android" materially "better" now? Does it scroll .0001 ms faster? Is that REALLY worth a smaller/inferior screen and less battery life?
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Without a doubt the SGSII.
It's a better device.
They're both great, but it's a super easy choice.
The processor is much better dual core or not.
TW4 is way way way better.
Android natively utilizes dual cores no matter what people are confused about.
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Thanks! I'm more on the AOSP side of things and hopefully wont have to deal with any version of TW with either phone I end up with, already using cm6 mms.apk. So it comes down to cpu and memory but smaller display for 200$ more out of my pocket.... ARGH! Hard decision is hard. I just learned you can hold menu for search on the gs2 so maybe I would be ok with that (I use search as my appdrawer/contact's)
Man so much anger and hostility on these forums, calm down guys. Both phones are great it just depends on what your priorities are.
I hope my posts were not taken as "angry". I am not angry in the least - I am just trying to present a rational view of the two phones. The "big" selling point for the SG2 seems to be "dual core" but I have not heard of a single app that requires a dual core processor. To me this sounds like a GREAT marketing bullet with very little real world application. In addition, dual core processors use more power, so battery life should be lower. Overall, I am hoping someone tells me some solid and rational point that is counter to my view if my view is incorrect. I still have 3 weeks to give the Infuse back to AT&T and purchase an SG2. I do prefer a larger screen (came from the Dell Streak 5") and a longer battery life though so I do not see how the SG2 is in anyway a "better" phone. Yes it has a dual core processor - no I can't see a specific list of things/applications that a dual core would give me today that a single core does not. My answer will likely be different in 6 months time, so I will re-evaluate to see if new apps etc come out that require dual core and purchase the best device when that time comes.
Thoughts?
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I hope my posts were not taken as "angry". I am not angry in the least - I am just trying to present a rational view of the two phones. The "big" selling point for the SG2 seems to be "dual core" but I have not heard of a single app that requires a dual core processor. To me this sounds like a GREAT marketing bullet with very little real world application. In addition, dual core processors use more power, so battery life should be lower. Overall, I am hoping someone tells me some solid and rational point that is counter to my view if my view is incorrect. I still have 3 weeks to give the Infuse back to AT&T and purchase an SG2. I do prefer a larger screen (came from the Dell Streak 5") and a longer battery life though so I do not see how the SG2 is in anyway a "better" phone. Yes it has a dual core processor - no I can't see a specific list of things/applications that a dual core would give me today that a single core does not. My answer will likely be different in 6 months time, so I will re-evaluate to see if new apps etc come out that require dual core and purchase the best device when that time comes.
Thoughts?
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Galaxy S II:
Dual core cpu (vs. single on the Infuse, but supposedly still gets great battery life)
Faster GPU than the Infuse (but not by a massive amount)
1GB RAM (vs. ~640MB in the Infuse)
1080p video recording and playback (vs. 720p on the Infuse)
Gingerbread out of the box (vs. Froyo on the Infuse)
TouchWiz 4.0 (quite a few nice enhancements over TW 3.0 on the Infuse, and much sexier as well)
But it also has a smaller/less quality screen, correct? What is Touchwiz? I use ADW - does that work with Touchwiz? 1080p is no advantage for me either. Not sure why you would want this in a phone? hmm.... What does 1GB of RAM give me?
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But it also has a smaller/less quality screen, correct? What is Touchwiz? I use ADW - does that work with Touchwiz? 1080p is no advantage for me either. Not sure why you would want this in a phone? hmm....
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Same quality screen, just slightly smaller, which will actually make it look sharper.
Pretty much everything that came on your phone is part of or influenced by the "TouchWiz UI". The launcher, theme, and all of the apps that aren't from the Market or from AT&T (Phone, Messaging, Browser, Gallery, Memo, etc., etc., etc.). So the theme and pretty much all of the software on the Galaxy S II has been tweaked/improved/changed compared to the Infuse. Samsung's latest Android customizations and apps if you will.
Im thinking i will use the infuse until next summer..by then im the res.will be better and maybe quad core and better batt.life and of course i now require a 4.5 screen
So, in your opinion, I should return the Infuse and get the SG2? Any thoughts on which platform will have more development for it? THis matters to me more than Gingerbread and Tocuhwiz...
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Full HDMI mirroring (vs. limited HDMI output on the Infuse)
NFC (only on some Galaxy S II versions, like the ones in Korea)
16GB and 32GB versions (vs. just a 16GB version of the Infuse)
8GB MicroSD card included (vs. 2GB on the Infuse)
What is NFC? I already have a few 32gb micoSD cards - that is a wash. Does the SG2 have network media sharing like the Infuse?
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So, in your opinion, I should return the Infuse and get the SG2? Any thoughts on which platform will have more development for it? THis matters to me more than Gingerbread and Tocuhwiz...
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Galaxy S II will have 50 times more development for it.
Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but it's no Galaxy S II. Whether you should get it or not depends on what you can afford. You could buy the Infuse for $200 on contract, sell it for $500, and then get a GSII for $750. Just depends on whether or not the features/improvements I mentioned are worth ~$250 extra to you. If you have money to throw around, definitely do it. If $250 sounds like a lot to you, maybe wait 2-3 months until the Galaxy S II officially comes to AT&T and you can get it cheaper. Or if you're perfectly content with your Infuse and none of the things I listed sound appealing, that's a fine choice too.
Money is really not the issue .
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...
It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.
I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.
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I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.
Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII
If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!
Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.