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[Q] Galaxy Note or Quad Core?

I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
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DannyV94 said:
I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
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Well I would go for the Samsung Galaxy Note (I have had it and the SGSII and your rumors are true the exynos chips are just amazing )
The quad cores sounds great....in paper, they concentrate in doing the phone with better chips but not with better batteries and with what i know right now they would probably have like today phones battery (ex. 1800-2200 mAh) and considering the chips they'll have they'll drain it like orange juice but well they sound great for show off with your friends jajaja

Yes, he's right, unless the scientists develop hydrogen batteries newer and better phones will have more battery drain.
Anyway, the galaxy note is an excellent phone, and huge

I'm fairly certain the Note is using snapdragon, not sammy's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622&highlight=galaxy+note

First generations of something are usually questionable, the Note should be a great buy for a while.
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@dac1227 yeah there are two versions one with sammys processor at 1.4 ghz and one with qualcomm processor at 1.5 ghz
source: wikipedia
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So if I were to purchase one on att network, would I be getting exynos or qualcomm?
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it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
source:wikipedia
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*GalaxyDev* said:
it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
source:wikipedia
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Incorrect, but close
The AT&T version of the Note will ship with Snapdragon, as it is the only SoC supported by Qualcomm's LTE baseband.
Hope this helps

Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
yeah he has the truth
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*GalaxyDev* said:
Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
yeah he has the truth
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No apology necessary my friend
I just didn't want the OP to go off and buy one thinking he was getting Exynos

Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.

DannyV94 said:
Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.
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you need to compare facts around, so people with a 800x480 display and dual core 1Ghz do not tell you its sooo much faster as snapdragon than tegra2.
If the snapdragon 1.4Ghz dualcore is used on a 1280x766 display the graphics rendering require so much more power to complete the graphics and handle it.
For now i think the only good one is tegra2/3, is you have seen the rendering on tegra3 snowball game, you should be convinced since no other device is capable of delivering that on 720p displays.
but do note, i got both acer and asus prime, and i find both device pretty similar although prime is quadcore, and only seen the glowball thing to utilize it 100% rest is pretty much the same. maybe FPS games do run smoother on quadcore like shadowgun but i havent had the chance to compare it.
if you already got a tegra2 device, wait untill the new fullHD tegra devices appear like Acer A700 device and the nextgen from Asus with fullHD display too.

depends what you need it for dont know if this is true but i herd somewhere that a single core has the worst battery life and a duel core has better and a quadcore even better cos a single core will have all the mhz running on that core and a quadcore will spread the mhz out on all cores thus better battery life in my opinion id wait for reviews on a quadcore phone like the s3

Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.

Dexter_nlb said:
not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.
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yay im right
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here you go all the facts duel core is sooooo 2011
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-whitepaper-0911a.pdf
this pretty well made my mind up....

HTC One X Krait OR Tegra 3

Hey Forum, I am pretty sure that a lot of people in this forum are going to be switching to the One X in Q2 of this year. Since I live in North America, we will only be getting the Krait. I believe that it isn't much of a loss, according to the benchmarks anyway. What is your opinion?

Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Depends on the power consumption.
Benchmarks showed that the S4 SoC is a beast, but not much words on the power consumption.
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good

epsix said:
Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country

i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....

Wow. Cool. Rad.

waltthizzney said:
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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I think the same.
But OLED screen would be good reason...
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Pikabat said:
Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
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HTC G2 US version is AOSP, T-Mobile will market One X as their G series with AOSP. US carrier especially T-Mobile have a strange ways to market their phones.
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waltthizzney said:
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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Read these:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3

HTC One X power consumption
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.

davebugyi said:
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
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Full HD sounds pretty damn awesome

htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.

enigma00 said:
Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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I agreee...Snapdragon S4 dualcore is a lot better in battery life and performance than Tegra 3.
Nvidia SoC stuck on an ARM Cortex A9 45nm...
I'm in italy, so in my country i will see onli One X with Tegra...so i'll probably buy it from US with Snapdragon S4 xD

htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Not true. Tegra 3 is made using 40nm process, while the S4 is made in 28nm. The 28nm process can be a lot more energy efficient. Although the Tegra 3 includes a 5th low power companion core, it is being used only in light weight task, in which case the same applications won't be consuming much power on the S4 either. When the Tegra 3 is running at it's full power, it's definitely consuming more power than the S4.
That is not to say that the Tegra 3 is a battery sucker and the S4 is not. There is just not enough tests out there to judge. And thus far all the Tegra 3 benchmarks are only done with the Transformer Prime.
I'd have to say this, neither of them is really slower than the other in all scenarios. If I were to choose between them, my deciding factor would definitely be real world battery life (and maybe LTE, at this moment I don't really care about it too much). I'm sure there will be tons of tests comparing the two once the One X is physically launched.

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I think the S4 is a better dualcore and the Tegra 3 is just an soc to promote the quadcore name. pretty much marketing issue. Not saying its not any good, benchmarks proves it's got some power. I just think it is to early for quadcore phone. S4 proves it.

htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Well, actually the Tegra 3 only uses the compagnion core when idle, so it's likely that the Snapdragon S4 version is more efficient in practice.

Krait is better. I hope T-Mobile releases their G4X with the Krait.

I said this months ago... If this phone becomes the G3 or some other naming scheme I will be all over it regardless of the SoC... But Apples to Apples I'd take the Krait hands down... Snapdragon support has proven to be overwhelming in the dev community.
And people that fail to see how this is better than the sensation.. You clearly don't have your eyes open.

According to all the benchmarks and reviews I've seen the Krait kills the Tegra 3. And it has better battery life and LTE?! Yes please! And for everyone saying LTE sucks battery life you're right, but the One X for Sprint is rumored to have a 2650mah battery, hell yes if that's true!
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HTC One XXL [RUMOR]

Android users have become power-hungry - dual-core processors no longer cut it. If you're among that crowd, this next rumor should give you a twitch of excitement - an HTC One XXL with two extra cores than the XL, better graphics and more RAM.
A couple of leaked screenshots show some of the specs of this purported beast - a 4.7" 720p screen, 8MP main and 1.8MP secondary cameras and a codename, "Closurexxl".
The chipset specs of the One XXL are more interesting though - a quad-core processor (reportedly a Snapdragon S4 with Krait cores), 2GB of RAM and an Adreno 320 GPU plus LTE connectivity.
One chipset matches the description - the Qualcomm APQ8064. There's an old rumor of the HTC Zeta with that chipset and roughly similar specs, but that's from before the HTC One series came to be.
Thanks for the tip, Chris!
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Mother of god...

Yusei said:
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Mother of god...
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+1
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If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Holy that seems to be the cutting edge power device if it really comes up
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This sounds wicked, but -- what kind of battery does this thing have? I hope at least something around 2000 - 2500 mAh

With that much power... I COULD TAKE OVER THE WORLD... from my phone :good:

2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Wow, that is something. But i don't think they would put more then 2000mAh. The Krait processor's are indeed lees power hungry and HTC as always would bet on that and humor us with a small battery.....
I hope we can see some competition with Note 2

nightfire37 said:
I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Intel will overcome all current chipsets by outperforming not only in terms of performance, but also in power usage. Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?

DD-Ripper said:
2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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buy an LG Optimus Me, Download 10 apps, then come back to me.

^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.

Ansticexvi said:
^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.
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Whoa! I officially hate my own phone....

Luk_Sch said:
If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Oh yeah if you call pointless amounts of CPU power that mostly NEVER gets fully accessed by any app. Combined with battery life that is measured in hours by the number of fingers on one hand.
Oh but you'll all be able to talk king of the hill garbage to your peasant friends who only own those obsolete dual core phones ......... hmmmm we droid users are soooo much more clued up and analytical about our hardware than iphone/iOS users aren't we
DD-Ripper said:
2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
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Manufacturers will keep this nonsense up until customers stop being so mindlessly obsessed with having a pointlessly macho CPU.
Dual cores are pretty OTT themselves, quads are just silly really, anything else is just a pure marketing exercise, but they are easy to market to the simple minded.
There are a pile of Android phone issues that need WAY more attention than shoehorning more unusable CPU power into phones.
jhjhjhjh said:
Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?
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Exactly but manufacturers find it way easier to sell EXTRA CPU. As the more important issues that need fixing, like battery life, Data/GPS reliability,etc are maybe a little too nuanced to attract the attention of the mid teens maturity market that largely drive this CPU over speccing.

Guru Zeb i agree with you. But that doesn't mean we can't admire the specs. I don't drive a muscle car either but i loooove them More CPU and GPU at one stage are pointless but it is fine by me, let them grow.....
What are we gona use or already using is matter of oppinion

I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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atomic ferret said:
I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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That's very relatively.

What I'd really like to see is something with just the dual core version of S4 Pro, but with maybe 2 GHz-2.2 GHz clock speed, and highly improved power efficiency in the modem and in the CPU through various little tricks to bring down power usage all around, and then have dual channel 2 GB of RAM.
That's the power needed for basically everything on the market, after that what's most important is everything else. Industrial design (built to last well beyond 2 years), replaceable battery, expandable memory (support for exFAT and UHS-1 microSD please), INCREDIBLE RADIO RECEPTION (WiFi, cell voice/data, BT, GPS, NFC should all be incredibly good at holding onto signal without using immense amounts of power), fantastic display (S-LCD2 minimum quality), and it needs to both look good if possible, but most importantly, feel good and easy to hold in the hand. Stunning battery life, both when the screen is off and on. When the screen is off the battery should basically not drain at all, when the screen is on it should sip power, maybe last as long as 8 hours when web browsing on 3G...

Just wanted to say....

Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!

bori1030 said:
Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!
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:'(..................................cya......................

M0D1441 said:
:'(..................................cya......................
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lol... hope to see you over there cooking one day

9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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dakpluto said:
9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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Buy/Sell, pay difference

dakpluto said:
9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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craigslist bro just sold my skyrocket for $250 there and Ive had an upgrade Ive been saving on my line for a while so i get the gs 3 for 199.99 when i got my skyrocket i used another line's upgrade back in nov.
its called phone flipping get on board my man..

but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international

JERM^ said:
but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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I wouldn't really say shafted, the dual core is faster and more power efficient than the previous S3 CPU and you get 2GB of ram rather than 1GB making multitasking much smoother. I've been hearing the Exynos quad to be a monster at eating battery if not tweaked (disable 2 cores etc...) and there are barely any apps/games that support more than 1 thread for phones aside from benchmarks. Thats pretty much like getting a 6 or 8 core CPU for PC yet the games/programs you use only use 2-4 cores and the only real benefit is if you use 3d programing/rendering/casting/encoding etc... but if you go to phone usage, doubt many utilize the full dual core.
So while the S4 only has 2 cores its still fast, if you have a quad core version of it you get this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
And we know getting that type of benchmark wont really be battery friendly will it?

later man. enjoy the gs3.

Bros before phones?
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Not really but it's still nice
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orlandoxpolice said:
Not really but it's still nice
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I messed with one today, been trying to figure out where to get good $$$ for my skyrocket

sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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M0D1441 said:
Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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Not big enough for me to take
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What exactly will a better CPU offer, at this moment. I mean that in the sense that I don't see where my experience would improve in any way. Perhaps SwiftKey won't have an occasional hick up but even that's no guarantee. Besides that there's nothing I can do on an S3 that won't operate with the same usability as it would on my S2.
Still, to each his own, for me the only improvement would be resolution which I would unfortunately ruin with the nice feel of a matte anti glare cover. What I want is an S3 with guaranteed software updates going forward. Meaning ill be waiting until the next Nexus.
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sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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If we take from a hardware standpoint here are the key differences:
CPU:
Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 45nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)-> Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 28nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)
(Here we see the die shrink, with die shrinks on new architecture you can see battery improvements, temperature improvements and clock per clock speeds its faster)
GPU:
Adreno 220 -> Adreno 225
RAM:
1GB Single Channel -> 2GB Dual Channel
Display:
480x800 -> 720x1280
Gorilla Glass 1 -> Gorilla Glass 2
Of course there is a lot of other features/hardware that are "better" such as camera and stock battery etc...
In terms of the phone itself, the SR is not lacking since its still a dual core phones while other phones are still single and working their way to dual core. Quad core are starting to arise but they wont be as efficient for a while since the games/apps we use will not take advantage of all the cores. That being said by the time we do utilize them most likely there will be a newer and better hardware. Also 720p may start becoming the next standard in display as "HD" is making its way onto phones. If you think about hardware difference, think of Samsung Galaxy S2 as 1, Skyrocket as 1.5 and Galaxy S3 as 2. S3 (North America) is still dual core but it is an efficient/fast CPU.
Good example of this is like PC specs:
Q6600 = Quad (65nm)
Q9550 = Quad (45nm)
i5 760 = Quad (45nm)
i5 2500K = Quad (32nm)
i5 3570K = Quad (28nm)
What I mean about that is the standard has started to become quad in the CPU/laptop world but the big difference is the efficiency(power consumption), speed (clock per clock) and maybe other supported hardware features.
So is it a big step up?.... Yes and no, yes because hardwarewise it is better but the SR isnt lacking to the point where ICS/JB lags on it or any other apps/games atm. Of course if you have insane graphical games maybe it will slug the SR in terms of performance but thats entirely on what you use it for. Ask the same question next year and you'll probably hear the same, the S3 is not lacking but xxx (S4 or whatever is "faster"). Technology will always get better its just whether you want to pay to get the latest and greatest or not.
I buy my gear based on my use. You wont see me buying computers that are 6-8 cores, Quad SLI/CFX video cards or whatever because I don't need them lol. My hardware is fully capable of playing the current games so thats what I usually upgrade for, my uses.
If you compare the SR to the S3 of course you will see a good difference but if you only use the phone for facebook, instagram, twitter, calling, texting, whatever, the SR can do those. Now if it can't do those and its slow and always dying on you and programs aren't working and super super sluggish then yeah those are the reasons for the upgrade.
Now if we go to the development side yes, phones like Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S2 (original) and Galaxy S3 will have big support as most people get them when they first come out so if you want to look for it in that view they have more popularity. Some people want to get the phones that everyones getting while others don't want the "same exact" one but on a similar page.

Way to go and spoon feed insane amount of info lol... Good stuff
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JERM^ said:
but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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international does not support LTE and these two are faster plus 2gb of RAM

M0D1441 said:
Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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couldnt have said it better ..

Exynos 5 Octa and 1080P SAMOLED Performance Concerns

My understanding of the big.LITTLE architecture is that it is a logical extension of the architecture implemented in Nvidia's Tegra 3 SoC. You have a lower-power architecture (in Tegra it was one core, in this case it's 4) that can handle operations in the background or "lite" activites, and a more robust quad-core A15 chipset to handle the heavy loads.
The implementation in Tegra 3 wasn't particularly impressive (read: awful), and I honestly think the 70% battery savings tossed by ARM is bollocks -- even besides the fact that the baseline isn't mentioned (i.e. 70% more efficient than what at what exactly?).
Why?
Pull up your battery stats and look at what's consuming the vast majority of your battery life. It is and always will be the screen. Until we develop technologies that make screens far more energy-efficient or batteries vastly larger in the same space (Apple?), marginally more efficient processors won't really mean much.
The worst-case scenario for big.LITTLE is that we'll have a quad-core A7 chipset doing the majority of our light work including interface operations, which would most likely make the phones feel slower than current A9/A15-core chipsets as far as interface is concerned. I don't know about you but even Exynos 4 to Qualcomm S4 Pro is a noticeable jump in UI response, so I'm not ready for a step backward. My understanding is that these chipsets can't even be utilized together for the same tasks -- lack of multi-threadedness aside, the most performance we'll realize from Exynos 5 will be about the same as other quad-core A15 SoCs.
Additionally, the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Note and even Galaxy S3 all utilized pentile SAMOLED displays. My understanding is that non-pentile SAMOLEDs can't effectively be produced with sufficient pixel density (e.g. "Retina" threshold) -- hence why the larger Note 2 screen is the first Galaxy phone to feature a non-pentile 720P SAMOLED. Do you guys really think the manufacturing process has improved enough to produce a 1080P non-pentile SAMOLED? I'm seriously expecting a pentile display in the Galaxy S4 at this rate.

What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
What is the point of this thread? You are assuming a lot of things and based on these assumptions you are expecting people to discuss.

hot_spare said:
What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
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What doesn't make sense about it?
ARM's been pretty clear about how big.LITTLE's state-switching works.
If you take the mW consumption of a modern screen and a modern processor in any given state (idle or max), it's not really mathematically possible to increase battery life by 70% with just the processor.
I agree the pentile thing is pretty baseless, since Samsung came out and said it was for longevity. The matrix would probably be at least like the Note 2's, though no telling.
I'd like to understand from your perspective what the benefits of big.LITTLE could possibly be over power-gating?

hot_spare said:
What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
What is the point of this thread? You are assuming a lot of things and based on these assumptions you are expecting people to discuss.
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He was stating his thoughts based on what is known about the big.little architecture and the exynos 5 octa revealed at CES. There is no crap about that. Maybe you should read his post thoroughly and learn a bit about the new exynos 5 soc, then it would make more sense to you.
To OP: I think we would just have to wait until the SOCs are benchmarked to judge whether the tegra 4, snapdragon 600 & 800, or the exynos 5 octa is better.
And yes, going from an A9 to A15 is a major jump. ARM claims that each generation, (eg. A8 to A9 to A15) will give double the performance of the last gen architecture.
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hot_spare said:
What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
What is the point of this thread? You are assuming a lot of things and based on these assumptions you are expecting people to discuss.
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That was a HUGE load of crap by the op, someone please go to the store and get more toilet paper.
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klin1344 said:
To OP: I think we would just have to wait until the SOCs are benchmarked to judge whether the tegra 4, snapdragon 600 & 800, or the exynos 5 octa is better.
And yes, going from an A9 to A15 is a major jump. ARM claims that each generation, (eg. A8 to A9 to A15) will give double the performance of the last gen architecture.
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It makes me wonder about the A50-series architecture, which really seems like the generation to wait for. If the Nexus 10 is any indication the huge jump in the upcoming Galaxy S4 generation should be the GPU, whose speed improvements will more than offset pushing 2.25x as many pixels.
I thought the recent hexagon/diamond-subpixel arrangement rumors about the Galaxy S4 were pretty interesting. Makes me interested to see how such an arrangement will hold up against non-pentile 1080P since I thought the S3 was pretty soundly trounced by the One X as far as display quality goes.

Lol seriously this OP
btw I was thinking if exynos octa would have some advantage over other processors in multi threaded benchmarks. .
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i agree with Op. snapdragon 800 2.3 FTW
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souleater11 said:
i agree with Op. snapdragon 800 2.3 FTW
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Honestly we cannot judge until the benchmarks are out...but I place my bets on the snapdragons, as they have smoked this generation of quad core tegra and exynos chips with just their dual core s4's.
Plus I always stick to Qualcomm because of the availability of always updated source from CAF.
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klin1344 said:
Honestly we cannot judge until the benchmarks are out...but I place my bets on the snapdragons, as they have smoked this generation of quad core tegra and exynos chips with just their dual core s4's.
Plus I always stick to Qualcomm because of the availability of always updated source from CAF.
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I don't think s600 would compete ,but s800 would be competitive
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