[Q] Galaxy Note or Quad Core? - General Questions and Answers

I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
Help? lol

DannyV94 said:
I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
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Well I would go for the Samsung Galaxy Note (I have had it and the SGSII and your rumors are true the exynos chips are just amazing )
The quad cores sounds great....in paper, they concentrate in doing the phone with better chips but not with better batteries and with what i know right now they would probably have like today phones battery (ex. 1800-2200 mAh) and considering the chips they'll have they'll drain it like orange juice but well they sound great for show off with your friends jajaja

Yes, he's right, unless the scientists develop hydrogen batteries newer and better phones will have more battery drain.
Anyway, the galaxy note is an excellent phone, and huge

I'm fairly certain the Note is using snapdragon, not sammy's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622&highlight=galaxy+note

First generations of something are usually questionable, the Note should be a great buy for a while.
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@dac1227 yeah there are two versions one with sammys processor at 1.4 ghz and one with qualcomm processor at 1.5 ghz
source: wikipedia
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So if I were to purchase one on att network, would I be getting exynos or qualcomm?
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it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
source:wikipedia
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it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
source:wikipedia
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Incorrect, but close
The AT&T version of the Note will ship with Snapdragon, as it is the only SoC supported by Qualcomm's LTE baseband.
Hope this helps

Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
yeah he has the truth
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*GalaxyDev* said:
Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
yeah he has the truth
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No apology necessary my friend
I just didn't want the OP to go off and buy one thinking he was getting Exynos

Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.

DannyV94 said:
Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.
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you need to compare facts around, so people with a 800x480 display and dual core 1Ghz do not tell you its sooo much faster as snapdragon than tegra2.
If the snapdragon 1.4Ghz dualcore is used on a 1280x766 display the graphics rendering require so much more power to complete the graphics and handle it.
For now i think the only good one is tegra2/3, is you have seen the rendering on tegra3 snowball game, you should be convinced since no other device is capable of delivering that on 720p displays.
but do note, i got both acer and asus prime, and i find both device pretty similar although prime is quadcore, and only seen the glowball thing to utilize it 100% rest is pretty much the same. maybe FPS games do run smoother on quadcore like shadowgun but i havent had the chance to compare it.
if you already got a tegra2 device, wait untill the new fullHD tegra devices appear like Acer A700 device and the nextgen from Asus with fullHD display too.

depends what you need it for dont know if this is true but i herd somewhere that a single core has the worst battery life and a duel core has better and a quadcore even better cos a single core will have all the mhz running on that core and a quadcore will spread the mhz out on all cores thus better battery life in my opinion id wait for reviews on a quadcore phone like the s3

Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.

Dexter_nlb said:
not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.
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yay im right
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here you go all the facts duel core is sooooo 2011
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-whitepaper-0911a.pdf
this pretty well made my mind up....

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HTC One X Krait OR Tegra 3

Hey Forum, I am pretty sure that a lot of people in this forum are going to be switching to the One X in Q2 of this year. Since I live in North America, we will only be getting the Krait. I believe that it isn't much of a loss, according to the benchmarks anyway. What is your opinion?
Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Depends on the power consumption.
Benchmarks showed that the S4 SoC is a beast, but not much words on the power consumption.
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
epsix said:
Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
Wow. Cool. Rad.
waltthizzney said:
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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I think the same.
But OLED screen would be good reason...
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Pikabat said:
Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
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HTC G2 US version is AOSP, T-Mobile will market One X as their G series with AOSP. US carrier especially T-Mobile have a strange ways to market their phones.
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waltthizzney said:
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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Read these:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
HTC One X power consumption
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
davebugyi said:
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
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Full HD sounds pretty damn awesome
htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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I agreee...Snapdragon S4 dualcore is a lot better in battery life and performance than Tegra 3.
Nvidia SoC stuck on an ARM Cortex A9 45nm...
I'm in italy, so in my country i will see onli One X with Tegra...so i'll probably buy it from US with Snapdragon S4 xD
htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Not true. Tegra 3 is made using 40nm process, while the S4 is made in 28nm. The 28nm process can be a lot more energy efficient. Although the Tegra 3 includes a 5th low power companion core, it is being used only in light weight task, in which case the same applications won't be consuming much power on the S4 either. When the Tegra 3 is running at it's full power, it's definitely consuming more power than the S4.
That is not to say that the Tegra 3 is a battery sucker and the S4 is not. There is just not enough tests out there to judge. And thus far all the Tegra 3 benchmarks are only done with the Transformer Prime.
I'd have to say this, neither of them is really slower than the other in all scenarios. If I were to choose between them, my deciding factor would definitely be real world battery life (and maybe LTE, at this moment I don't really care about it too much). I'm sure there will be tons of tests comparing the two once the One X is physically launched.
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I think the S4 is a better dualcore and the Tegra 3 is just an soc to promote the quadcore name. pretty much marketing issue. Not saying its not any good, benchmarks proves it's got some power. I just think it is to early for quadcore phone. S4 proves it.
htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Well, actually the Tegra 3 only uses the compagnion core when idle, so it's likely that the Snapdragon S4 version is more efficient in practice.
Krait is better. I hope T-Mobile releases their G4X with the Krait.
I said this months ago... If this phone becomes the G3 or some other naming scheme I will be all over it regardless of the SoC... But Apples to Apples I'd take the Krait hands down... Snapdragon support has proven to be overwhelming in the dev community.
And people that fail to see how this is better than the sensation.. You clearly don't have your eyes open.
According to all the benchmarks and reviews I've seen the Krait kills the Tegra 3. And it has better battery life and LTE?! Yes please! And for everyone saying LTE sucks battery life you're right, but the One X for Sprint is rumored to have a 2650mah battery, hell yes if that's true!
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Those of you that are waiting to compare the One X to the GSIII

http://phandroid.com/2012/04/25/sam...ynos-4-quad-for-their-next-generation-galaxy/
So it's a quad core based of A9 architecture, not the dual core A15 monster it could've been.
I wasn't going to wait for the GSIII but now I feel even more at peace.
Bleh, too much hype
Yep, people expected too much and now they're going to get disappointed. Even though I think the biggest disappointment I've seen was the 4s after all the iPhone 5 hype. Steve Jobs was so embarrassed you saw what happened the next day...(too soon?)
lol, it was a upgraded quadcore a15 or something, then maybe the gs3 lol
yep it's what i was expecting. so the S4 should still kick butt at least with power management with LTE. that's one of the main reasons i want the HOX, to try LTE. i'd like it to be a good experience and i've stayed away from it because i know how power hungry it can be.
They're saying the SG3 MIGHT get an A15 like the HTC One X did for LTE Compatibility. I guess we'll find out soon...
S8B said:
They're saying the SG3 MIGHT get an A15 like the HTC One X did for LTE Compatibility. I guess we'll find out soon...
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People are just in denial. They never said that the quad core didn't have LTE compatibility. A15 will take a while, even though it'll be available Q2.
EDIT: If it doesn't have LTE it will probably have S4 Krait, sound familiar?
Looks like the S3 w/ LTE, similar to the HOX w/ LTE, will have the dual core S4 chip instead of the quad core chip in the HSPA+ version.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
That's pretty disappointing. I'm tired of waiting for a new phone so I think I'll just pick up the HTC One X now.
Geez, you sound so down about getting a One X
Yeah but I dont want to wait til August when it arrives in the US.
vioalas said:
People are just in denial. They never said that the quad core didn't have LTE compatibility. A15 will take a while, even though it'll be available Q2.
EDIT: If it doesn't have LTE it will probably have S4 Krait, sound familiar?
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
This was posted earlier to a Canadian news site and it could be possible as it did happen to us One X owners. Essentially much like the Tegra 3 they are saying that the new Quad Core Exynos may not support LTE and could possibly ship with the Snapdragon S4 Krait that the HTC One X from AT&T and Rogers is using. I am not saying this is concrete but I wouldn't be surprised. I am curious to see what the end result is going to be.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/26/n...-with-qualcomm-s4-chip-to-ensure-lte-support/
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
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Not really based, they can be compared to each other. The S4 Krait is actually a bit lower than a true A15 in regards to performance. The chip people were wanting was the exynos 5250 (or 5450? ugh too many numbers) a dual core chipset, but samsung wanted the marketing "quad core" brings.
The One X has a much nicer build quality than anything I've handled by Samsung in the past 12 months.
S8B said:
Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
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Almost. Qualcomm made the decision to go with lower power consumption over higher performance, so it is slightly slower than A15.
This means that companion cores aren't needed, and in theory it might be able to clock higher to overcome the performance deficit when needed.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
Knew it, haha.
it goes by tiers guys. americans will have lte high end dual core this year while europe has new low end quad core. then we will have mid quadcore next year while europe+asia have the high end quad cores lol i remmeber iphone having a front facing camera for the first time and everyone here is flipping out while japanese had those since like 2009. its a shame here in america really but oh well we take what we get
vioalas said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
Knew it, haha.
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slegrand said:
This was posted earlier to a Canadian news site and it could be possible as it did happen to us One X owners. Essentially much like the Tegra 3 they are saying that the new Quad Core Exynos may not support LTE and could possibly ship with the Snapdragon S4 Krait that the HTC One X from AT&T and Rogers is using. I am not saying this is concrete but I wouldn't be surprised. I am curious to see what the end result is going to be.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/26/n...-with-qualcomm-s4-chip-to-ensure-lte-support/
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This actually makes me really happy. If most of the new high end and mid range phones come with the s4, then we will see less splintering of apps and games.
so in the US we're only gonna have 3 chipsets? that's kinda fail. Samsung, what is going on guys?

What is the best option for buying a new phone

Should I get a
(AT&T)
1. Galaxy note
2. OneX(s in my country)
( has no micro SD therefore off my list)
( no quad core)
3.wait for quad core phone like the
>Atrix 3 duel core 1.2 ghz... ( ugh) (not cool)
>galaxy s3
I have an upgrade .
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Are You Only Looking At Those Options Or Are You Open Minded To Other Options That Have Similar Specs?
S3 by far
AT&T One X is a piece of sh*t. Go for Galaxy S3.
Mariacci said:
AT&T One X is a piece of sh*t. Go for Galaxy S3.
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That's what I was looking at as well or the note / atrix 3 . I like the notes size but I think waiting for quad core might be a good idea
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....also think Samsung Galaxy SIII or HTC ONE S ;-)
s3, if its anything like my captivate, that thing will be awesome
Definitely looking at the galaxy s3
Is it running quad core tegra 3 ? Or something else?
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I prefer the S3. I've heard its zippy, fast and overall better than the One X. The Note still remains a good choice, despite having a weaker processor, but it has a large screen, so its all a matter of preference.
Overall, if you're looking for a good experience, choose the international quad core version of the S3.
On a side note, I don't think AT&T will carry the quad core version of the S3, only the dual core Snapdragon S4 version. The quad core version is international, so you would have to buy it upfront. The upgrade you have would probably get you a USA dual core Galaxy S3.
vx117 said:
I prefer the S3. I've heard its zippy, fast and overall better than the One X. The Note still remains a good choice, despite having a weaker processor, but it has a large screen, so its all a matter of preference.
Overall, if you're looking for a good experience, choose the international quad core version of the S3.
On a side note, I don't think AT&T will carry the quad core version of the S3, only the dual core Snapdragon S4 version. The quad core version is international, so you would have to buy it upfront. The upgrade you have would probably get you a USA dual core Galaxy S3.
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Ouch.... that is a lot of cash to shell out, I may end up just waiting. Because if I go duel core I may as well go note. I have my transformer prime...so I almost NEED quad now just to feel like I upgraded
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ianwardell said:
Definitely looking at the galaxy s3
Is it running quad core tegra 3 ? Or something else?
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Samsung S3 is running Samsung Exynos Quad @1.5 Ghz and it rapes Tegra 3. Avoid the dual core one.
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Go to a store and hold the phones in your hand .. gaze at the screens ...run a few tasks/games ...test the cameras right then and there..check how loud it gets ...
..And you would know
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I would suggest Galaxy S3 , it'll keep yourself future-phone-proof for sometime .. My Mom's original galaxy s still runs hassle free. I need a good looking phone with a good feel in hand and hence I went with HTC One X
you can try galaxy s3..For me its the best
unfortunately, it seems that SGS3 will be released in North America with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4. so I do not understand how it will be an improvement from SGS2...
may be I am missing some technical details and Snapdragon S4 is incredibly fast and powerful, but somehow I doubt that.
I kind of knew that they would not release quad-core S3 in NA. normally, all the good smartphones somehow manage to by-pass North American market.
for instance, it is a mystery to me why Samsung Omnia HD was never released in US or Canada.
As for the Galaxy Note, somehow I have doubts about its processing speed as almost all hardware specs are copied from SGS2. how come a phone with a screen almost twice the size of SGS2 and same hardware specs can operate just as smooth as SGS2 does?
ianwardell said:
Ouch.... that is a lot of cash to shell out, I may end up just waiting. Because if I go duel core I may as well go note. I have my transformer prime...so I almost NEED quad now just to feel like I upgraded
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Quad core doesn't mean it's faster or better. The quadcore exynos 4412 is a 32nm chooser with A9 cortex instructions. Dualcore S4 is 28nm A15 structure. A15 is a huge improvement over A9. Plus the sg3 in states has 2 gigs of ram. If you have enough patience wait for the next nexus
I don't think you can really tell the difference between these chipsets anymore. They're all too fast.
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unfortunately, it seems that SGS3 will be released in North America with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4. so I do not understand how it will be an improvement from SGS2...
may be I am missing some technical details and Snapdragon S4 is incredibly fast and powerful, but somehow I doubt that.
I kind of knew that they would not release quad-core S3 in NA. normally, all the good smartphones somehow manage to by-pass North American market.
for instance, it is a mystery to me why Samsung Omnia HD was never released in US or Canada.
As for the Galaxy Note, somehow I have doubts about its processing speed as almost all hardware specs are copied from SGS2. how come a phone with a screen almost twice the size of SGS2 and same hardware specs can operate just as smooth as SGS2 does?
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Here is my basic understanding of chipsets. Exynos quad> Qualcomm Krait = Tegra 3 = Exynos Dual Core 2.0 ghz > TI OMAP Dual core.
Now,exynos chipset doesn't support 4G LTE network (it maxes out at 21mbps) but qualcomm does ( the reason Sony uses them)
Samsung value their international market,where they are more popular comparatively. LTE isnt widespread outside USA so they dont see need in equiping their international sets with a feature people wont use. The solution then,is to give the few carriers with LTE an LTE version of the phone,relatively few units,and cost save.
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go for the S3 i would to buy ONE X but the camera is **** (i mean the compression or or whatever it's called) the photos taken on ONE X are good but if u upload it to the pc its low or ****y quality so i advice u to go for the S3 or maybe a Nokia
Razr Maxx for the battey 3300 mAh.
Ok I'll say it.
The Best Option is have someone else Pay for it......
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HTC One XXL [RUMOR]

Android users have become power-hungry - dual-core processors no longer cut it. If you're among that crowd, this next rumor should give you a twitch of excitement - an HTC One XXL with two extra cores than the XL, better graphics and more RAM.
A couple of leaked screenshots show some of the specs of this purported beast - a 4.7" 720p screen, 8MP main and 1.8MP secondary cameras and a codename, "Closurexxl".
The chipset specs of the One XXL are more interesting though - a quad-core processor (reportedly a Snapdragon S4 with Krait cores), 2GB of RAM and an Adreno 320 GPU plus LTE connectivity.
One chipset matches the description - the Qualcomm APQ8064. There's an old rumor of the HTC Zeta with that chipset and roughly similar specs, but that's from before the HTC One series came to be.
Thanks for the tip, Chris!
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Mother of god...
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Mother of god...
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If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Holy that seems to be the cutting edge power device if it really comes up
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This sounds wicked, but -- what kind of battery does this thing have? I hope at least something around 2000 - 2500 mAh
With that much power... I COULD TAKE OVER THE WORLD... from my phone :good:
2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Wow, that is something. But i don't think they would put more then 2000mAh. The Krait processor's are indeed lees power hungry and HTC as always would bet on that and humor us with a small battery.....
I hope we can see some competition with Note 2
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I can see phones soon to get six core processors. Can't wait to see what Nvidia or Qualcomm has to offer in the near future.
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Intel will overcome all current chipsets by outperforming not only in terms of performance, but also in power usage. Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?
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2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
I would rather wait 1 year than buying this phone.
Who knows maybe Galaxy S4 may have such cpu, 2Gb ram and GPU clocked by default at 600MHz..?
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buy an LG Optimus Me, Download 10 apps, then come back to me.
^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.
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^ he said GPU not cpu, the gpu that Me had was clocked at around 128mhz.
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Whoa! I officially hate my own phone....
Luk_Sch said:
If this rumor is real the performance will be absolutely superb
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Oh yeah if you call pointless amounts of CPU power that mostly NEVER gets fully accessed by any app. Combined with battery life that is measured in hours by the number of fingers on one hand.
Oh but you'll all be able to talk king of the hill garbage to your peasant friends who only own those obsolete dual core phones ......... hmmmm we droid users are soooo much more clued up and analytical about our hardware than iphone/iOS users aren't we
DD-Ripper said:
2010: Year of Single Core Phones
2011: Year of Dual Core Phones
2012: Year of Quad Core Phones
2013: Who knows probably this is going to be the year of Penta Core phones..?
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Manufacturers will keep this nonsense up until customers stop being so mindlessly obsessed with having a pointlessly macho CPU.
Dual cores are pretty OTT themselves, quads are just silly really, anything else is just a pure marketing exercise, but they are easy to market to the simple minded.
There are a pile of Android phone issues that need WAY more attention than shoehorning more unusable CPU power into phones.
jhjhjhjh said:
Who needs a 6-core chip in a phone?
I'd be happier seeing similar performance to what we now have with SGSIII and HTC OneX but with lower battery consumption. Surely that'll be the new priority?
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Exactly but manufacturers find it way easier to sell EXTRA CPU. As the more important issues that need fixing, like battery life, Data/GPS reliability,etc are maybe a little too nuanced to attract the attention of the mid teens maturity market that largely drive this CPU over speccing.
Guru Zeb i agree with you. But that doesn't mean we can't admire the specs. I don't drive a muscle car either but i loooove them More CPU and GPU at one stage are pointless but it is fine by me, let them grow.....
What are we gona use or already using is matter of oppinion
I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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atomic ferret said:
I'm more worried about power consumption than more cores or higher clock speed. A quad core with 2gb of ram is enough for what I do with android. I just want a battery to last me through the day.
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That's very relatively.
What I'd really like to see is something with just the dual core version of S4 Pro, but with maybe 2 GHz-2.2 GHz clock speed, and highly improved power efficiency in the modem and in the CPU through various little tricks to bring down power usage all around, and then have dual channel 2 GB of RAM.
That's the power needed for basically everything on the market, after that what's most important is everything else. Industrial design (built to last well beyond 2 years), replaceable battery, expandable memory (support for exFAT and UHS-1 microSD please), INCREDIBLE RADIO RECEPTION (WiFi, cell voice/data, BT, GPS, NFC should all be incredibly good at holding onto signal without using immense amounts of power), fantastic display (S-LCD2 minimum quality), and it needs to both look good if possible, but most importantly, feel good and easy to hold in the hand. Stunning battery life, both when the screen is off and on. When the screen is off the battery should basically not drain at all, when the screen is on it should sip power, maybe last as long as 8 hours when web browsing on 3G...

Exynos 5 Octa and 1080P SAMOLED Performance Concerns

My understanding of the big.LITTLE architecture is that it is a logical extension of the architecture implemented in Nvidia's Tegra 3 SoC. You have a lower-power architecture (in Tegra it was one core, in this case it's 4) that can handle operations in the background or "lite" activites, and a more robust quad-core A15 chipset to handle the heavy loads.
The implementation in Tegra 3 wasn't particularly impressive (read: awful), and I honestly think the 70% battery savings tossed by ARM is bollocks -- even besides the fact that the baseline isn't mentioned (i.e. 70% more efficient than what at what exactly?).
Why?
Pull up your battery stats and look at what's consuming the vast majority of your battery life. It is and always will be the screen. Until we develop technologies that make screens far more energy-efficient or batteries vastly larger in the same space (Apple?), marginally more efficient processors won't really mean much.
The worst-case scenario for big.LITTLE is that we'll have a quad-core A7 chipset doing the majority of our light work including interface operations, which would most likely make the phones feel slower than current A9/A15-core chipsets as far as interface is concerned. I don't know about you but even Exynos 4 to Qualcomm S4 Pro is a noticeable jump in UI response, so I'm not ready for a step backward. My understanding is that these chipsets can't even be utilized together for the same tasks -- lack of multi-threadedness aside, the most performance we'll realize from Exynos 5 will be about the same as other quad-core A15 SoCs.
Additionally, the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Note and even Galaxy S3 all utilized pentile SAMOLED displays. My understanding is that non-pentile SAMOLEDs can't effectively be produced with sufficient pixel density (e.g. "Retina" threshold) -- hence why the larger Note 2 screen is the first Galaxy phone to feature a non-pentile 720P SAMOLED. Do you guys really think the manufacturing process has improved enough to produce a 1080P non-pentile SAMOLED? I'm seriously expecting a pentile display in the Galaxy S4 at this rate.
What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
What is the point of this thread? You are assuming a lot of things and based on these assumptions you are expecting people to discuss.
hot_spare said:
What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
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What doesn't make sense about it?
ARM's been pretty clear about how big.LITTLE's state-switching works.
If you take the mW consumption of a modern screen and a modern processor in any given state (idle or max), it's not really mathematically possible to increase battery life by 70% with just the processor.
I agree the pentile thing is pretty baseless, since Samsung came out and said it was for longevity. The matrix would probably be at least like the Note 2's, though no telling.
I'd like to understand from your perspective what the benefits of big.LITTLE could possibly be over power-gating?
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What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
What is the point of this thread? You are assuming a lot of things and based on these assumptions you are expecting people to discuss.
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He was stating his thoughts based on what is known about the big.little architecture and the exynos 5 octa revealed at CES. There is no crap about that. Maybe you should read his post thoroughly and learn a bit about the new exynos 5 soc, then it would make more sense to you.
To OP: I think we would just have to wait until the SOCs are benchmarked to judge whether the tegra 4, snapdragon 600 & 800, or the exynos 5 octa is better.
And yes, going from an A9 to A15 is a major jump. ARM claims that each generation, (eg. A8 to A9 to A15) will give double the performance of the last gen architecture.
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hot_spare said:
What a load of crap was that? You make absolutely no sense at all.
What is the point of this thread? You are assuming a lot of things and based on these assumptions you are expecting people to discuss.
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That was a HUGE load of crap by the op, someone please go to the store and get more toilet paper.
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klin1344 said:
To OP: I think we would just have to wait until the SOCs are benchmarked to judge whether the tegra 4, snapdragon 600 & 800, or the exynos 5 octa is better.
And yes, going from an A9 to A15 is a major jump. ARM claims that each generation, (eg. A8 to A9 to A15) will give double the performance of the last gen architecture.
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It makes me wonder about the A50-series architecture, which really seems like the generation to wait for. If the Nexus 10 is any indication the huge jump in the upcoming Galaxy S4 generation should be the GPU, whose speed improvements will more than offset pushing 2.25x as many pixels.
I thought the recent hexagon/diamond-subpixel arrangement rumors about the Galaxy S4 were pretty interesting. Makes me interested to see how such an arrangement will hold up against non-pentile 1080P since I thought the S3 was pretty soundly trounced by the One X as far as display quality goes.
Lol seriously this OP
btw I was thinking if exynos octa would have some advantage over other processors in multi threaded benchmarks. .
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i agree with Op. snapdragon 800 2.3 FTW
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souleater11 said:
i agree with Op. snapdragon 800 2.3 FTW
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Honestly we cannot judge until the benchmarks are out...but I place my bets on the snapdragons, as they have smoked this generation of quad core tegra and exynos chips with just their dual core s4's.
Plus I always stick to Qualcomm because of the availability of always updated source from CAF.
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klin1344 said:
Honestly we cannot judge until the benchmarks are out...but I place my bets on the snapdragons, as they have smoked this generation of quad core tegra and exynos chips with just their dual core s4's.
Plus I always stick to Qualcomm because of the availability of always updated source from CAF.
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I don't think s600 would compete ,but s800 would be competitive
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