Should I get a
(AT&T)
1. Galaxy note
2. OneX(s in my country)
( has no micro SD therefore off my list)
( no quad core)
3.wait for quad core phone like the
>Atrix 3 duel core 1.2 ghz... ( ugh) (not cool)
>galaxy s3
I have an upgrade .
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S3 by far
AT&T One X is a piece of sh*t. Go for Galaxy S3.
Mariacci said:
AT&T One X is a piece of sh*t. Go for Galaxy S3.
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That's what I was looking at as well or the note / atrix 3 . I like the notes size but I think waiting for quad core might be a good idea
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....also think Samsung Galaxy SIII or HTC ONE S ;-)
s3, if its anything like my captivate, that thing will be awesome
Definitely looking at the galaxy s3
Is it running quad core tegra 3 ? Or something else?
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I prefer the S3. I've heard its zippy, fast and overall better than the One X. The Note still remains a good choice, despite having a weaker processor, but it has a large screen, so its all a matter of preference.
Overall, if you're looking for a good experience, choose the international quad core version of the S3.
On a side note, I don't think AT&T will carry the quad core version of the S3, only the dual core Snapdragon S4 version. The quad core version is international, so you would have to buy it upfront. The upgrade you have would probably get you a USA dual core Galaxy S3.
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I prefer the S3. I've heard its zippy, fast and overall better than the One X. The Note still remains a good choice, despite having a weaker processor, but it has a large screen, so its all a matter of preference.
Overall, if you're looking for a good experience, choose the international quad core version of the S3.
On a side note, I don't think AT&T will carry the quad core version of the S3, only the dual core Snapdragon S4 version. The quad core version is international, so you would have to buy it upfront. The upgrade you have would probably get you a USA dual core Galaxy S3.
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Ouch.... that is a lot of cash to shell out, I may end up just waiting. Because if I go duel core I may as well go note. I have my transformer prime...so I almost NEED quad now just to feel like I upgraded
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ianwardell said:
Definitely looking at the galaxy s3
Is it running quad core tegra 3 ? Or something else?
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Samsung S3 is running Samsung Exynos Quad @1.5 Ghz and it rapes Tegra 3. Avoid the dual core one.
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Go to a store and hold the phones in your hand .. gaze at the screens ...run a few tasks/games ...test the cameras right then and there..check how loud it gets ...
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I would suggest Galaxy S3 , it'll keep yourself future-phone-proof for sometime .. My Mom's original galaxy s still runs hassle free. I need a good looking phone with a good feel in hand and hence I went with HTC One X
you can try galaxy s3..For me its the best
unfortunately, it seems that SGS3 will be released in North America with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4. so I do not understand how it will be an improvement from SGS2...
may be I am missing some technical details and Snapdragon S4 is incredibly fast and powerful, but somehow I doubt that.
I kind of knew that they would not release quad-core S3 in NA. normally, all the good smartphones somehow manage to by-pass North American market.
for instance, it is a mystery to me why Samsung Omnia HD was never released in US or Canada.
As for the Galaxy Note, somehow I have doubts about its processing speed as almost all hardware specs are copied from SGS2. how come a phone with a screen almost twice the size of SGS2 and same hardware specs can operate just as smooth as SGS2 does?
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Ouch.... that is a lot of cash to shell out, I may end up just waiting. Because if I go duel core I may as well go note. I have my transformer prime...so I almost NEED quad now just to feel like I upgraded
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Quad core doesn't mean it's faster or better. The quadcore exynos 4412 is a 32nm chooser with A9 cortex instructions. Dualcore S4 is 28nm A15 structure. A15 is a huge improvement over A9. Plus the sg3 in states has 2 gigs of ram. If you have enough patience wait for the next nexus
I don't think you can really tell the difference between these chipsets anymore. They're all too fast.
crolikman said:
unfortunately, it seems that SGS3 will be released in North America with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4. so I do not understand how it will be an improvement from SGS2...
may be I am missing some technical details and Snapdragon S4 is incredibly fast and powerful, but somehow I doubt that.
I kind of knew that they would not release quad-core S3 in NA. normally, all the good smartphones somehow manage to by-pass North American market.
for instance, it is a mystery to me why Samsung Omnia HD was never released in US or Canada.
As for the Galaxy Note, somehow I have doubts about its processing speed as almost all hardware specs are copied from SGS2. how come a phone with a screen almost twice the size of SGS2 and same hardware specs can operate just as smooth as SGS2 does?
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Here is my basic understanding of chipsets. Exynos quad> Qualcomm Krait = Tegra 3 = Exynos Dual Core 2.0 ghz > TI OMAP Dual core.
Now,exynos chipset doesn't support 4G LTE network (it maxes out at 21mbps) but qualcomm does ( the reason Sony uses them)
Samsung value their international market,where they are more popular comparatively. LTE isnt widespread outside USA so they dont see need in equiping their international sets with a feature people wont use. The solution then,is to give the few carriers with LTE an LTE version of the phone,relatively few units,and cost save.
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go for the S3 i would to buy ONE X but the camera is **** (i mean the compression or or whatever it's called) the photos taken on ONE X are good but if u upload it to the pc its low or ****y quality so i advice u to go for the S3 or maybe a Nokia
Razr Maxx for the battey 3300 mAh.
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The Best Option is have someone else Pay for it......
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I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
Help? lol
DannyV94 said:
I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
Help? lol
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Well I would go for the Samsung Galaxy Note (I have had it and the SGSII and your rumors are true the exynos chips are just amazing )
The quad cores sounds great....in paper, they concentrate in doing the phone with better chips but not with better batteries and with what i know right now they would probably have like today phones battery (ex. 1800-2200 mAh) and considering the chips they'll have they'll drain it like orange juice but well they sound great for show off with your friends jajaja
Yes, he's right, unless the scientists develop hydrogen batteries newer and better phones will have more battery drain.
Anyway, the galaxy note is an excellent phone, and huge
I'm fairly certain the Note is using snapdragon, not sammy's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622&highlight=galaxy+note
First generations of something are usually questionable, the Note should be a great buy for a while.
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@dac1227 yeah there are two versions one with sammys processor at 1.4 ghz and one with qualcomm processor at 1.5 ghz
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So if I were to purchase one on att network, would I be getting exynos or qualcomm?
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it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
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it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
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Incorrect, but close
The AT&T version of the Note will ship with Snapdragon, as it is the only SoC supported by Qualcomm's LTE baseband.
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Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
yeah he has the truth
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Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
yeah he has the truth
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No apology necessary my friend
I just didn't want the OP to go off and buy one thinking he was getting Exynos
Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.
DannyV94 said:
Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.
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you need to compare facts around, so people with a 800x480 display and dual core 1Ghz do not tell you its sooo much faster as snapdragon than tegra2.
If the snapdragon 1.4Ghz dualcore is used on a 1280x766 display the graphics rendering require so much more power to complete the graphics and handle it.
For now i think the only good one is tegra2/3, is you have seen the rendering on tegra3 snowball game, you should be convinced since no other device is capable of delivering that on 720p displays.
but do note, i got both acer and asus prime, and i find both device pretty similar although prime is quadcore, and only seen the glowball thing to utilize it 100% rest is pretty much the same. maybe FPS games do run smoother on quadcore like shadowgun but i havent had the chance to compare it.
if you already got a tegra2 device, wait untill the new fullHD tegra devices appear like Acer A700 device and the nextgen from Asus with fullHD display too.
depends what you need it for dont know if this is true but i herd somewhere that a single core has the worst battery life and a duel core has better and a quadcore even better cos a single core will have all the mhz running on that core and a quadcore will spread the mhz out on all cores thus better battery life in my opinion id wait for reviews on a quadcore phone like the s3
Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.
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not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.
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yay im right
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here you go all the facts duel core is sooooo 2011
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-whitepaper-0911a.pdf
this pretty well made my mind up....
http://phandroid.com/2012/04/25/sam...ynos-4-quad-for-their-next-generation-galaxy/
So it's a quad core based of A9 architecture, not the dual core A15 monster it could've been.
I wasn't going to wait for the GSIII but now I feel even more at peace.
Bleh, too much hype
Yep, people expected too much and now they're going to get disappointed. Even though I think the biggest disappointment I've seen was the 4s after all the iPhone 5 hype. Steve Jobs was so embarrassed you saw what happened the next day...(too soon?)
lol, it was a upgraded quadcore a15 or something, then maybe the gs3 lol
yep it's what i was expecting. so the S4 should still kick butt at least with power management with LTE. that's one of the main reasons i want the HOX, to try LTE. i'd like it to be a good experience and i've stayed away from it because i know how power hungry it can be.
They're saying the SG3 MIGHT get an A15 like the HTC One X did for LTE Compatibility. I guess we'll find out soon...
S8B said:
They're saying the SG3 MIGHT get an A15 like the HTC One X did for LTE Compatibility. I guess we'll find out soon...
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People are just in denial. They never said that the quad core didn't have LTE compatibility. A15 will take a while, even though it'll be available Q2.
EDIT: If it doesn't have LTE it will probably have S4 Krait, sound familiar?
Looks like the S3 w/ LTE, similar to the HOX w/ LTE, will have the dual core S4 chip instead of the quad core chip in the HSPA+ version.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
That's pretty disappointing. I'm tired of waiting for a new phone so I think I'll just pick up the HTC One X now.
Geez, you sound so down about getting a One X
Yeah but I dont want to wait til August when it arrives in the US.
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People are just in denial. They never said that the quad core didn't have LTE compatibility. A15 will take a while, even though it'll be available Q2.
EDIT: If it doesn't have LTE it will probably have S4 Krait, sound familiar?
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
This was posted earlier to a Canadian news site and it could be possible as it did happen to us One X owners. Essentially much like the Tegra 3 they are saying that the new Quad Core Exynos may not support LTE and could possibly ship with the Snapdragon S4 Krait that the HTC One X from AT&T and Rogers is using. I am not saying this is concrete but I wouldn't be surprised. I am curious to see what the end result is going to be.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/26/n...-with-qualcomm-s4-chip-to-ensure-lte-support/
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
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Not really based, they can be compared to each other. The S4 Krait is actually a bit lower than a true A15 in regards to performance. The chip people were wanting was the exynos 5250 (or 5450? ugh too many numbers) a dual core chipset, but samsung wanted the marketing "quad core" brings.
The One X has a much nicer build quality than anything I've handled by Samsung in the past 12 months.
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
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Almost. Qualcomm made the decision to go with lower power consumption over higher performance, so it is slightly slower than A15.
This means that companion cores aren't needed, and in theory it might be able to clock higher to overcome the performance deficit when needed.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
Knew it, haha.
it goes by tiers guys. americans will have lte high end dual core this year while europe has new low end quad core. then we will have mid quadcore next year while europe+asia have the high end quad cores lol i remmeber iphone having a front facing camera for the first time and everyone here is flipping out while japanese had those since like 2009. its a shame here in america really but oh well we take what we get
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http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
Knew it, haha.
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slegrand said:
This was posted earlier to a Canadian news site and it could be possible as it did happen to us One X owners. Essentially much like the Tegra 3 they are saying that the new Quad Core Exynos may not support LTE and could possibly ship with the Snapdragon S4 Krait that the HTC One X from AT&T and Rogers is using. I am not saying this is concrete but I wouldn't be surprised. I am curious to see what the end result is going to be.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/26/n...-with-qualcomm-s4-chip-to-ensure-lte-support/
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This actually makes me really happy. If most of the new high end and mid range phones come with the s4, then we will see less splintering of apps and games.
so in the US we're only gonna have 3 chipsets? that's kinda fail. Samsung, what is going on guys?
So what do you guys think about the next few weeks. The Samsung Galaxy S3, quad core phones coming to US, maybe new release for TMobile US. I am trying really hard to hold out on upgrading from my G2.
But I know I want to because the technology is so much better. What do you guys think will go on Post-HTC One S?
The thing that I wonder about most about the Galaxy S3 is, it will have the new quad-core Exynos chip. But this chip is based on ARM A9 on a 32nm process - our Snapdragon S4 Krait is based on ARM A15 @ 28nm. I'm going to wait for benchmarks, but I don't think that chip is going to blow away our One S at all.
Plus, if it is anything like every previous Samsung, it will be a cheap, crappy plastic build quality. Everyone who holds my One S is amazed at the slimness, weight and elegance of this phone. I'm glad that I didn't wait for Samsung.
Agreed i love my new htc one s
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kuroneko007 said:
The thing that I wonder about most about the Galaxy S3 is, it will have the new quad-core Exynos chip. But this chip is based on ARM A9 on a 32nm process - our Snapdragon S4 Krait is based on ARM A15 @ 28nm. I'm going to wait for benchmarks, but I don't think that chip is going to blow away our One S at all.
Plus, if it is anything like every previous Samsung, it will be a cheap, crappy plastic build quality. Everyone who holds my One S is amazed at the slimness, weight and elegance of this phone. I'm glad that I didn't wait for Samsung.
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Agree. Last two phones have been Tmo-sgs and sgs2...plastic builds..decent phones...horrible support. Dev community was great on sgs but people not devs were unbearable on sgs2. After getting the One S its heaps better than both in build and UI. Very satisfies with phone.
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The thing that I wonder about most about the Galaxy S3 is, it will have the new quad-core Exynos chip. But this chip is based on ARM A9 on a 32nm process - our Snapdragon S4 Krait is based on ARM A15 @ 28nm. I'm going to wait for benchmarks, but I don't think that chip is going to blow away our One S at all.
Plus, if it is anything like every previous Samsung, it will be a cheap, crappy plastic build quality. Everyone who holds my One S is amazed at the slimness, weight and elegance of this phone. I'm glad that I didn't wait for Samsung.
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The Exynos quad core destroys everything. Haven't you seen the benchmarks? Smokes the Krait and the Tegra 3.
It probably won't come to the US though, because it will probably lack LTE capabilities.
Yeah I don't believe it will be getting the quad core processor, I have read about that.
I guess I am stuck. I am due for upgrade. I have mobile freedom for once in my life... but I am very cautious to upgrade to the HTC One S with the SGS3 around the corner and talks of the Galaxy Note coming to TMobile also.
I think I would really enjoy the Note. Tablet + phone = awesome.
I will wait it out and see, but I don't think anything will be destroying the HTC One S processing power anytime soon unless you buy a universal phone for some reason. Even then, who needs 4 cores?!
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Yeah I don't believe it will be getting the quad core processor, I have read about that.
I guess I am stuck. I am due for upgrade. I have mobile freedom for once in my life... but I am very cautious to upgrade to the HTC One S with the SGS3 around the corner and talks of the Galaxy Note coming to TMobile also.
I think I would really enjoy the Note. Tablet + phone = awesome.
I will wait it out and see, but I don't think anything will be destroying the HTC One S processing power anytime soon unless you buy a universal phone for some reason. Even then, who needs 4 cores?!
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i had the atet and international notes. atet note sucked, tmobile note will probably be identical. international was much better with the exynos and all the development. I liked the intl note alot but decided to trade it for the One S. its up to you but I would not get the tmobile note unless it has the exynos, which it probably will not.
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Yeah I don't believe it will be getting the quad core processor, I have read about that.
I guess I am stuck. I am due for upgrade. I have mobile freedom for once in my life... but I am very cautious to upgrade to the HTC One S with the SGS3 around the corner and talks of the Galaxy Note coming to TMobile also.
I think I would really enjoy the Note. Tablet + phone = awesome.
I will wait it out and see, but I don't think anything will be destroying the HTC One S processing power anytime soon unless you buy a universal phone for some reason. Even then, who needs 4 cores?!
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I also agree if the note doesn't have exynos it isn't worth it..
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i had the atet and international notes. atet note sucked, tmobile note will probably be identical. international was much better with the exynos and all the development. I liked the intl note alot but decided to trade it for the One S. its up to you but I would not get the tmobile note unless it has the exynos, which it probably will not.
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I would more suggest choose phone or tablet... Phone + tablet = horrably big phone or to small tablet!
I don't think quad cores are anything to sing praises about in smartphones just yet, not until there's more to actually take advantage of them. Look at the One S vs One X, for example. Regardless of the resolution difference (which obviously has an impact), the One S certainly packs a punch against it with it's dual core.
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So what do you guys think about the next few weeks. The Samsung Galaxy S3, quad core phones coming to US, maybe new release for TMobile US. I am trying really hard to hold out on upgrading from my G2.
But I know I want to because the technology is so much better. What do you guys think will go on Post-HTC One S?
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The GS3 won't be announced till next week. After that, there will probably be an international launch, then an exclusitivity here in the states by AT&T, anywhere from 30-90 days. What this means is that even if T-Mobile picks up the phone, it won't be till Q4.
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I also agree if the note doesn't have exynos it isn't worth it..
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Yep trust us the S3 is not great at all the S4 in the one S is a huge step up!
In terms of speed and smoothness when running Ics?
I am considering one of these to buy.
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Get the note if speed is your concern
Resale value is also good...plus that massive screen.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Get the note if speed is your concern
Resale value is also good...plus that massive screen.
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^^^ Correct in every way.
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Hit thanks if I helped you? Lame.
The nexus will run ICS better than the note or SGSII. It is just a better phone overall. The screen is big, but not too big, and the development community is second to none.
I'll choose ur mum in terms of speed and smoothness
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S2 -> Faster processor than GNexus (very fast GPU as well), MicroSD card slot, NFC (for the AT&T i777 and i9100T, which is the same as the i9100 but also has NFC. The AT&T model is based off this one). Low res 800 x 480 screen, but looks higher because of Samsung's screen technology. Non-pentile. Lots of development for AT&T and i9100 models. Easily rooted (Samsung's bootloader allows it). No notification light for non-Sprint model. Note that the Skyrocket/LTE/T-Mobile models do not use Samsung's Exynos processor; they use slower Qualcomm Snapdragons and are not real S2's. And the i9100G is not a real S2, it uses a TI-OMAP processor.
GNexus -> Developer phone, made to be rooted and ROM'd. No MicroSD expansion. 16GB for GSM, 32GB for CDMA models. 720p (very high-res) screen. TI-OMAP processor is slower than the S2's Exynos, but still good for gaming and still smooth. 4.65 inch screen vs 4.3 inch on the i9100/i777 GS2. Basically a slightly slower S2 with no microSD slot and a higher res screen.
Galaxy Note - Slightly faster than S2 (1.4 GHz vs 1.2 GHz), I believe 720p screen on 5.3 inches (no pixelation). It's a phablet; in between a tablet and a phone but still manageable and fits in pockets. Has a capacitive stylus; it works on touch screens and doesn't require any pressure. Again, the AT&T/LTE versions use Qualcomm Snapdragons which suck for heavy gaming like GTA III, Shadowgun etc (i717). The international one uses an Exynos like the S2 but @ 1.4GHz instead of 1.2GHz to deal with the higher-res screen.
Personally, I was let down with the GNexus because the processor is old and no MicroSD slot but it's a good dev phone. I'd go for an S2 or a Note.
I'm not a great fan of Samsung's Nexus devices, the only use the leftovers of the Galaxy line for those. The Gnex has that pentile display and not so good battery life. IMHO the Note/GS2 are overall faster devices, especially the GS2 with its lower res. I'd pick the Note if I were you: great battery life and one of the best screens around. You probably won't get JB tho...
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Keep your opinion light, there pal. Wasn't talking to ya.
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The nexus will run ICS better than the note or SGSII. It is just a better phone overall. The screen is big, but not too big, and the development community is second to none.
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On what basis is it better? The nexus is older,and slower,how then do you base your speed test?
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S2 -> Faster processor than GNexus (very fast GPU as well), MicroSD card slot, NFC (for the AT&T i777 and i9100T, which is the same as the i9100 but also has NFC. The AT&T model is based off this one). Low res 800 x 480 screen, but looks higher because of Samsung's screen technology. Non-pentile. Lots of development for AT&T and i9100 models. Easily rooted (Samsung's bootloader allows it). No notification light for non-Sprint model. Note that the Skyrocket/LTE/T-Mobile models do not use Samsung's Exynos processor; they use slower Qualcomm Snapdragons and are not real S2's. And the i9100G is not a real S2, it uses a TI-OMAP processor.
GNexus -> Developer phone, made to be rooted and ROM'd. No MicroSD expansion. 16GB for GSM, 32GB for CDMA models. 720p (very high-res) screen. TI-OMAP processor is slower than the S2's Exynos, but still good for gaming and still smooth. 4.65 inch screen vs 4.3 inch on the i9100/i777 GS2. Basically a slightly slower S2 with no microSD slot and a higher res screen.
Galaxy Note - Slightly faster than S2 (1.4 GHz vs 1.2 GHz), I believe 720p screen on 5.3 inches (no pixelation). It's a phablet; in between a tablet and a phone but still manageable and fits in pockets. Has a capacitive stylus; it works on touch screens and doesn't require any pressure. Again, the AT&T/LTE versions use Qualcomm Snapdragons which suck for heavy gaming like GTA III, Shadowgun etc (i717). The international one uses an Exynos like the S2 but @ 1.4GHz instead of 1.2GHz to deal with the higher-res screen.
Personally, I was let down with the GNexus because the processor is old and no MicroSD slot but it's a good dev phone. I'd go for an S2 or a Note.
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I'm sorry but there's a reason Mali-400 has been discontinued. The powervr gpu is so much faster thats why in any benchmark, Gnex or droid razr will finish a good 15-20seconds faster..
Gnex has really good rom support and it is more sexy than a plastic SGSII
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MattyOnXperiaX10 said:
I'm sorry but there's a reason Mali-400 has been discontinued. The powervr gpu is so much faster thats why in any benchmark, Gnex or droid razr will finish a good 15-20seconds faster..
Gnex has really good rom support and it is more sexy than a plastic SGSII
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Actually, the new quad core Exynos has an overclocked Mali-400 in it...
And the GNexus is made of plastic and has a horrible camera, so I don't know what you're talking about.
vnvman said:
I'm not a great fan of Samsung's Nexus devices, the only use the leftovers of the Galaxy line for those. The Gnex has that pentile display and not so good battery life. IMHO the Note/GS2 are overall faster devices, especially the GS2 with its lower res. I'd pick the Note if I were you: great battery life and one of the best screens around. You probably won't get JB tho...
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I agree with this guy^
While the Galaxy Nexus is great for development and day to day use, it uses year-old parts while the Exynos processor in the GS2 and GNote is the fastest available next to the Tegra 3 and S4 Krait. It's still a mid-high end phone (both the GNote/GS2) while compared to current processors the GNexus is more of a mid-range phone.
The i9100 and GNote have as much development as the Galaxy Nexus to be honest.
Personally, I'd rather have a Nexus. Ain't the fastest, but the best all rounder
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if speed is your preference then Get the note.
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<------- hit thanks if I helped you.
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This is one of my pet peeves on this site...
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Product F(RED) said:
Actually, the new quad core Exynos has an overclocked Mali-400 in it...
And the GNexus is made of plastic and has a horrible camera, so I don't know what you're talking about.
I agree with this guy^
While the Galaxy Nexus is great for development and day to day use, it uses year-old parts while the Exynos processor in the GS2 and GNote is the fastest available next to the Tegra 3 and S4 Krait. It's still a mid-high end phone (both the GNote/GS2) while compared to current processors the GNexus is more of a mid-range phone.
The i9100 and GNote have as much development as the Galaxy Nexus to be honest.
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If the development is about the same at the S2 and Note as the Gnexus, why bothering buying nexus
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Desaf said:
If the development is about the same at the S2 and Note as the Gnexus, why bothering buying nexus
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Notification light lol
Pretty much a higher res screen and "official development device" status. It'll also be the first to get Jelly Bean officially from Google, not that it matters since the devs here always port ROMs over to other devices effortlessly.
Also, the reason the Galaxy Nexus has a TI-OMAP processor in it and not an Exynos is because Samsung/Google didn't want to build two versions of the device: One GSM/HSPA+ and one CDMA/LTE. Exynos doesn't do LTE, which is why phones like the Skyrocket have the ****ty Snapdragon S3 in them.
Product F(RED) said:
Notification light lol
Pretty much a higher res screen and "official development device" status. It'll also be the first to get Jelly Bean officially from Google, not that it matters since the devs here always port ROMs over to other devices effortlessly.
Also, the reason the Galaxy Nexus has a TI-OMAP processor in it and not an Exynos is because Samsung/Google didn't want to build two versions of the device: One GSM/HSPA+ and one CDMA/LTE. Exynos doesn't do LTE, which is why phones like the Skyrocket have the ****ty Snapdragon S3 in them.
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Also why the GSIII will most likely not have Exynos in the USA...
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Also why the GSIII will most likely not have Exynos in the USA...
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Exynos, at least the current-gen, doesn't work with LTE or 1700 MHz (T-Mobile's 3G/4G frequency). All carriers are going LTE, and I'm not sure if the new Exynos is LTE-compatible, which means it won't work on any US carriers. So we'll end up having a Skyrocket/T-Mobile SGS2 situation where the phones use a Snapdragon S4, which is the only processor that can do LTE.
America got served. Everybody else got raw power.
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So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
drawde40599 said:
So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
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Not sure where you have been reading but I recommend not reading there anymore.
Every article I have read clearly said the ATT model would be getting a dual core.
And if you've read the reviews you would know that the Dual Core actually preforms really well.
[email protected] said:
Not sure where you have been reading but I recommend not reading there anymore.
Every article I have read clearly said the ATT model would be getting a dual core.
And if you've read the reviews you would know that the Dual Core actually preforms really well.
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I have a Gn so be step backwards, I've been reading for weeks and I never once seen dual core, ur 100% right but surprise to me, still can't find anywhere says dual for the one x . .... just ordered the real quad core one x, AT&t screwed up IMO. Thanks tho
You must have spent an extended period in a cave recently. It's been known for quite a while that the North American version of the One X would be shipping with the S4 in place of the Tegra 3, primarily due to the LTE support. It's also been known for quite some time that the S4 is actually (significantly) faster in most tasks while getting better battery life.
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I have a Gn so be step backwards, I've been reading for weeks and I never once seen dual core, ur 100% right but surprise to me, still can't find anywhere says dual for the one x . .... just ordered the real quad core one x, AT&t screwed up IMO. Thanks tho
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That's a mistake, the dual core S4 is actually a bit faster than the Quad Core tegra 3 by most measures.
Feels like you're trying to mess with us
Sounds like trolling to me. This has been common knowledge forever.
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So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
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The AT&T version is much better than the international version in terms of hardware.
drawde40599 said:
So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
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Are you trolling? The S4 is superior.. Whatever.
[email protected] said:
Not sure where you have been reading but I recommend not reading there anymore.
Every article I have read clearly said the ATT model would be getting a dual core.
And if you've read the reviews you would know that the Dual Core actually preforms really well.
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Must be Fox new
Watch out guys, I think we're dealing with a 12 year old over here.
Cores != performance.
Wow... Just wow. 4 A9 cores are not better than two A15 (sorta) cores
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That's an erm... interesting analogy
Maroon Mushroom said:
The AT&T version is much better than the international version in terms of hardware.
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I know you're an AT&T employee and all, however, it's still lacking a microSD card slot (same as international - not better), the GPU is weaker (unless if you are running either: old benchmark, or qualcomm created benchmark), the storage space is less (32GB vs 16 GB - and don't give any hoopla on OMGUSELTE or whatnot on our limited plans - no idealisms of how we are supposed to use said limited plans, either), and finally, the damn pogo pins are offset vs the HTC One X (Tegra 3) device, ensuring no compatibility with devices designed to use the Tegra 3 (prime) versions docking pins.
Yes, it has better battery life, but that's a serious stretch vs all the other so-called, "better," hardware (comming from an AT&T-ified LG Nitro HD, anything, really, could have better battery life for me; luckily I was within 30 days when I first heard of this device comming out).
Edit: however, to the OP, yes, the dual core Krait CPU from qualcomm is generally better in about every way vs the quad core A9-based CPU from nVidia - nVidia's work on the Kernal nonwithstanding (afaik, all Tegra 3 One X still use older 2.x kernal customized by nVidia, vs 3.x kernal used by all Qualcomm Krait (S4) devices).
jeremyshaw said:
I know you're an AT&T employee and all, however, it's still lacking a microSD card slot (same as international - not better), the GPU is weaker (unless if you are running either: old benchmark, or qualcomm created benchmark), the storage space is less (32GB vs 16 GB - and don't give any hoopla on OMGUSELTE or whatnot on our limited plans - no idealisms of how we are supposed to use said limited plans, either), and finally, the damn pogo pins are offset vs the HTC One X (Tegra 3) device, ensuring no compatibility with devices designed to use the Tegra 3 (prime) versions docking pins.
Yes, it has better battery life, but that's a serious stretch vs all the other so-called, "better," hardware (comming from an AT&T-ified LG Nitro HD, anything, really, could have better battery life for me; luckily I was within 30 days when I first heard of this device comming out).
Edit: however, to the OP, yes, the dual core Krait CPU from qualcomm is generally better in about every way vs the quad core A9-based CPU from nVidia - nVidia's work on the Kernal nonwithstanding (afaik, all Tegra 3 One X still use older 2.x kernal customized by nVidia, vs 3.x kernal used by all Qualcomm Krait (S4) devices).
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The international dock isn't even out yet (and if it is out now then it's super recent), so that doesn't matter, we'll get ours soon.
And so far it seems that our HOX have had less reports of defects (hope it stays that way too! haha)
I totally agree with everything else you said though.
Dual core has been talked about for awhile. I believe they went with the dual core snap because the tegra 3 chipset was not compatible with the LTE setup. Correct me if I'm wrong
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Im getting a bad vibe from this thread. There are some good posts here, but the overall feel is trolling. I believe we also have a few threads open that talk about the differences of S4 versus Tegra3, so any further discussion on that can be taken there.
Thanks guys, but thread closed.