Given the Thunderbolt is getting out-of-date more or less, and that Verizon has ditched upgrading AND keeping unlimited data, where do you stand?
What does "upgrade" mean for a current 4g customer - any change to any new phone? What about Sprint's unlimited plan? Why aren't more people talking about that as an option?
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What does "upgrade" mean for a current 4g customer - any change to any new phone? What about Sprint's unlimited plan? Why aren't more people talking about that as an option?
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Sprint has crap coverage in my area and who wants a phone that barely works indoors. Plus they throttle their unlimited users.
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Upgrade as in upgrade through Verizon, sign a two year contract, thereby sacrificing unlimited data.
+1 Sprint sucks, at least until they have a nationwide LTE network...then..maybe.
Im not going to upgrade through Verizon. My wife doesn't even want to lose unlimited data. Plus their new plan will cost us $40 more a month.
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More power to ya, we're in the same boat.
I will wait a year or so and upgrade to the Sammy S3 or the vigor/Tbolt 2 once they are slightly less new. I'll pay less for them on my own and keep unlimited. Losing unlimited is not worth getting the latest toy. The current tbolt is not bad with a new rom loaded.
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Upgrade as in upgrade through Verizon, sign a two year contract, thereby sacrificing unlimited data.
+1 Sprint sucks, at least until they have a nationwide LTE network...then..maybe.
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This is bull****! How is that an "upgrade", because I continue my existing service for an additional term? Upgrade implies an improvement in some manner. What's the improvement- my new phone? That characterization is subjective at best. Bastards! Sons'a *****es!
I'm waiting for a Nexus phone that I can purchase directly thru the Google Play Store. However, I doubt Google will be able to develop a CDMA phone without Verizon or Sprints collaboration. I don't want to give up my unlimited data plan because I use 20gb a month streaming video and music.
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Yeah I got pretty excited when I saw the GalNex on Google Play for a reasonable what, $400? And then I saw the HSPA.
I plan on keeping my plan at any cost
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I plan on keeping my plan at any cost
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Once my contract is up I will sell my bolt and ditch Verizon. I will buy another phone outright then go with straight talk.
I'm up for renewal in about never, so I'll keep the T'bolt and see what the developers do with ICS and JB and Sense 4.x (VZW has already said ICS will come ONLY with Sense 3.x so I'll skip the official ICS release) and make any decision later.
Probably just stick with them and hope that they'll make some change in the near future about upgrading.
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I will wait a year or so and upgrade to the Sammy S3 or the vigor/Tbolt 2 once they are slightly less new. I'll pay less for them on my own and keep unlimited. Losing unlimited is not worth getting the latest toy. The current tbolt is not bad with a new rom loaded.
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Same here. I don't mind the Tbolt with a custom ROM and having it with unlimited data is better for me than having the latest piece of hardware. It's also nice to know that replacement parts for this phone are fairly inexpensive.
Go on www.cowboom.com and buy a good condition pre-owned phone. I've got my eye on the rezound if my Tbolt fails.
mmarcz
Is there a viable prepaid market for smart phones? Guess if there is, you'd be stuck with crap phones...
I'll see what Verizon does when upgrade time comes. But I'm not sure what my other options are...
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
My fear is if I pay $650 for a razr maxx vzw will take my unlimited data away anyway. A phone rep told me all unlimited data plans will be taken away in "a year".
So how does it work, is the only way to get a new phone and keep unlimited to buy used or at full price? Or would upgrading at like best buy mobile be any different than upgrading directly through Verizon?
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Yes, u must pay full price or used. Some have claimed they were able to upgrade and keep data plan in vzw website but others have denied it.
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I have an unlimited $14.99 internet plan, and at the TMo store, I was told I had to upgrade it to a $30/month plan to get the upgrade price for the phone. I just walked out.
If anyone finds a good way around this BS, please post.
Are you available for an upgrade? Typically they will grandfather in plans if you are available for your regular upgrade, but if you try to ask for an upgrade early they will force you to more expensive plans.
Your best bet is to call up T-Mobile and talk to their Customer Loyalty/Retention department. Depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they work wonders for you, albeit you would have to wait for your phone to arrive in the mail.
I need to fight with them today myself. I have a family plan and already had one phone with a $25 unlimited plan on it. When I added this line they put me on a $30 plan and did not grandfather in the $25 rate.
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Are you available for an upgrade? Typically they will grandfather in plans if you are available for your regular upgrade, but if you try to ask for an upgrade early they will force you to more expensive plans.
Your best bet is to call up T-Mobile and talk to their Customer Loyalty/Retention department. Depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they work wonders for you, albeit you would have to wait for your phone to arrive in the mail.
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Will try calling. I was eligible on this line, but they want to force people off the cheaper plans (some nexus users are still on $5.99 plan).
PS - went to their website, and it offered the upgrade, but when I started the process, it popped up a "warning" that I would have to revisit their website after they shipped it and set up an "android" plan.
Tempted to go through the process on my credit card (not on my TMo account credit - so they cannot pull back the upgrade "discount"), and when I get the phone - just put the SIM in and see what happens.
AT $180/year more for the data plan, it would be better for me to just pay the full price. Will get most of it back from my Nexus on eBay if I decide to keep the phone past the remorse period.
Fight harder -- depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they will give you their new Android Premium Web for $20 a month.
I have been with them before they officially started up in the US (used them in Germany).
On hold - will see....
Guess what - from customer retention - $99 for the upgrade (not $199), and the $30 "android" plan for $20/month. I also have a 20 day period to return and restore my existing data plan.
From this and one other experience, it appears customer retention should be the way to go as a normal upgrade route (that is how I got the $14.99 unlimited plan a while back).
What's this Android Premium Web? I have been with them for over 5 years on the family account. My work account has been with them since the voicestream days.
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Android Premium Web is just the official name for the $30/month unlimited data plan for Android phones.
That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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Would they also be doing that to existing $5.99 - $14.99 "unlimited" plans?
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That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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First of all, the soft cap is 5 GB, not 3 GB. Secondly, I hear if you live in an area where there is HSPA+, after 5 GB they will drop you to 3G, then after 10 GB they will drop you to edge.
Secondly, it is still "unlimited" because you can still use the Internet -- just at slower speeds.
Lastly, they send you a text message telling you they throttled your speed, so you know. If you have been a customer with T-Mobile for a while, and/or this only happens to you once in a while, calling up T-Mobile can typically get them to remove the throttle.
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Not sure, but they probably do.
i pay $20.00 for unl. inter. you need to call customer care and order your phone from them in order to keep your cheap inter.
I'm not sure why you guys think you deserve the right for an early upgrade when you are currently locked into a 2 year contract. If you try to talk them into it they have no choice but to force you to get the new prices.
I've never understood the purpose of locking yourself into a new 2 year contract every time a new phone comes out. If a new phone is coming out, and you KNOW for a fact you want it, then save up ahead of time and buy it full price. That way you can keep your old grandfather plans with the much cheaper pricing. Or you can do what I'm doing and go with their EM+ solutions, which only T-Mobile offers, and have a much cheaper monthly bill but buy your phones outright. It saves much more money, just sell your current phone on craigslist and pay the difference.
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I was not locked in on the line I upgraded with.
Currently using Nexus from eBay - will be selling it back there IF I decide to keep the 4G. If not, I have 20 days to return and go back to grandfathered plan.
I had been thinking about just paying full price and keeping my $14.99 plan if they had stuck with $30 for the plan.
What is their EM+ solutions and do you know what the EM+ price would be on this device?
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I've never understood the purpose of locking yourself into a new 2 year contract every time a new phone comes out. If a new phone is coming out, and you KNOW for a fact you want it, then save up ahead of time and buy it full price. That way you can keep your old grandfather plans with the much cheaper pricing. Or you can do what I'm doing and go with their EM+ solutions, which only T-Mobile offers, and have a much cheaper monthly bill but buy your phones outright. It saves much more money, just sell your current phone on craigslist and pay the difference.
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Well, it can't get any cheaper than what I'm paying - $30 voice and $20 data. I may get more minutes with EM+, but I don't need them. And, by upgrading I don't have to change plans or anything. So, I get the phone at subsidized pricing as I know I'll be with T-Mo anyway. Furthermore, if I DO need to change providers for any extreme reason, the ETF drops over time, so nothing is lost and everything is gained, at least for me.
My t mobile rep let me stay with my hd2 data plan as long as it worked with the phone. Which it did.
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My t mobile rep let me stay with my hd2 data plan as long as it worked with the phone. Which it did.
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Was that at full price or "upgrade" price?
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Was that at full price or "upgrade" price?
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I upgraded
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I didn't have this problem at all
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/verizon-finally-killing-unlimited-data-plans-this-summer/
On the positive side, We will get the iPhone 5 the same time as AT&T...
What isnt clear to me from the article...
Will existing users be forced into a tiered plan, or allowed to remain on their existing plan?
Knowing VZW, I wont be shocked if we're all herded to some crappy capped plan.
As long as you don't sign a new contract or change anything with your data plan you should be good. They really can't just change your plan without your permission.
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Not if you never leave it... Grandfather clause.
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what if i get a new phone after two years? have to agree to the new speed limit terms?
This sucks...I was hoping they would change their minds and keep an unlimited plan.
It was the reason I left AT&T after 10+ years.... because I could keep my unlimited data while switching carriers.
I'll be with Verizon as long as I'm grandfathered but will leave if they take it away.
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what if i get a new phone after two years? have to agree to the new speed limit terms?
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As long as your plan doesn't change you're good. Only other way (by law) is in case of a straight buy out of Verizon. (IE... T-Mobile/AT&T).
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This lowers their price right
400 MB?
What if I buy my next phone outright, can I stay grandfathered? (I have estimated that buying it outright may be more cost-effective versus a tiered plan.)
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What if I buy my next phone outright, can I stay grandfathered? (I have estimated that buying it outright may be more cost-effective versus a tiered plan.)
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I would assume yes. This is what I did on AT&T and I kept my original plan. You just have to make sure any rep that ever accesses your account doesn't accidentally remove the unlimited plan because once it's gone the option to add it gets removed from the system. At that point it becomes a real ***** to get it added back and requires the carrier's highest level of tech support to get it added back.
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What if I buy my next phone outright, can I stay grandfathered? (I have estimated that buying it outright may be more cost-effective versus a tiered plan.)
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You can get your phone however you want... As long as you keep your plan, you are Grandfathered.
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You can get your phone however you want... As long as you keep your plan, you are Grandfathered.
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As long as you already have an unlimited 4G plan. Moving from unlimited 3g to unlimited 4G required me to change my plan, so when Verizon moves to limited plans, I'll bet you'll be stuck with either keeping your unlimited 3g or moving to a limited 4G plan.
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If you have the Thunderbolt, but your primary area doesn't have 4G, are you still on a 4G plan? I only get 4G when travelling on business.
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If you have the Thunderbolt, but your primary area doesn't have 4G, are you still on a 4G plan? I only get 4G when travelling on business.
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Yeah, I think once you get a 4G device you're required to get the 4G plan ...
What 4G plan? My bill with a tbolt is exactly the same as before.
This makes me sad... but we saw it coming.
Could I buy a thunderbolt now for the unlimited 4G then upgrade my phone next year and maintain the unlimited plan? If so I might as well buy one now. I'm on the 1400minute $10 data Unlimited data/txt family plan I don't want to lose it. Could I buy the Thunderbolt to get a 4G plan and return it?
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Could I buy a thunderbolt now for the unlimited 4G then upgrade my phone next year and maintain the unlimited plan? If so I might as well buy one now. I'm on the 1400minute $10 data Unlimited data/txt family plan I don't want to lose it. Could I buy the Thunderbolt to get a 4G plan and return it?
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Only the Verizon higher-ups can answer that. There's been no word on if/how they'll grandfather. As for the latter question, you'll go back to whatever you had if you return the phone. Technically there's no differentiation between 3G and 4G plans at least on the user facing side. They may have a different feature code or something on their end but right now it's the same email/web for smartphone that the 3G devices have. That makes a real gray area and no one really knows if you're good until you upgrade or beyond or if it'll kick you to tiered if you simply purchase a phone off-contract and try to activate it.
If they change your plan mid contract you can generally get out with no ETF.
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If they change your plan mid contract you can generally get out with no ETF.
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so i heard. Somebody up that Verizon contract so I can save it on my cpu just incase they try to up my unlimited data plan
Can someone point me to wording in the contract which specifies that current customers with LTE-capable phones will be grandfathered when tiered pricing comes this summer?
I'm not looking for anecdotes of past grandfathering, since comments by the VZW CFO indicate that they'll be leveraging LTE pricing for a revenue boost. It's my opinion that there's no precedent for the move to tiered LTE pricing, and that current LTE contracts will revert to a tiered plan on subsequent contracts.
Asking because I keep seeing assertions that LTE grandfathering is a sure bet, when all signs say otherwise. I understand this is a touchy subject; having broached it before, people get quite emotional in their claims that they're entitled to existing prices until the end of time.
You won't find anything because there is none. No one here knows if/how Verizon will grandfather.
Guys... calm down. You signed a contract stating UNLIMITED DATA. They cant take it away from you without breaching the contract. In that case they will have to let you go (no ETF) or simply be sued.
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Guys... calm down. You signed a contract stating UNLIMITED DATA. They cant take it away from you without breaching the contract. In that case they will have to let you go (no ETF) or simply be sued.
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what he said. you are under contact so they can not change the terms of the contract, otherwise they beach the contract.
I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
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I'm not looking for anecdotes of past grandfathering, since comments by the VZW CFO indicate that they'll be leveraging LTE pricing for a revenue boost. It's my opinion that there's no precedent for the move to tiered LTE pricing, and that current LTE contracts will revert to a tiered plan on subsequent contracts.
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Bolded the important part for the reading-impaired.
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I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
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thats what I would like to know
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I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
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Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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even that's no guarantee. See the current line of smartphones. They still require a plan change to activate if you don't already have a smartphone plan regardless of how you purchase it.
you should be good as long as you stay with a 4g phone when upgrading and extending your contract in the future, when going from 3g to 4g the system automatically adds/removes 4g/3g. If you're that worried, double check before signing your contract that it is still showing your unlimited 29.99, if it's not, make them get it fixed (unless something changes in the future they force you to lose the unlimited) but I see people on alltell calling plans all the time and outdated calling plans. same goes for outdated data plans.
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Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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whats the price on retail smartphones?
Thats why i got the phone as soon as possible to get the 4g data for the first 2 years with the phone.
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whats the price on retail smartphones?
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$700 for the TB, 800 for Iphone, 700 for samsung drioid -retail pricing
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you should be good as long as you stay with a 4g phone when upgrading and extending your contract in the future, when going from 3g to 4g the system automatically adds/removes 4g/3g. If you're that worried, double check before signing your contract that it is still showing your unlimited 29.99, if it's not, make them get it fixed (unless something changes in the future they force you to lose the unlimited) but I see people on alltell calling plans all the time and outdated calling plans. same goes for outdated data plans.
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This is the kind of ill-informed advice I'm talking about.
Again, read and listen to the communication from the money side of VZW. It's my informed opinion that unlimited pricing will no longer be an option at upgrade time when current contracts expire.
What happened in the past with acquisitions is completely unrelated to the current situation.
Until your contract expires nothing will change. Now there is no precedence, but when you upgrade your phone, you usually can RENEW your contract, if you don't change anything, it SHOULD remain the same, but that is all subjective.
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$700 for the TB, 800 for Iphone, 700 for samsung drioid -retail pricing
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Jesus! do Verizon have a trade in program?
Working in the wireless industry for several years, the only way to guarantee unlimited LTE is to have a rep confirm you're grandfathered and demand that they put notes in your account stating this. The notes are where its at. A coworker's wife is a regional trainer for VZW and she has no idea how it'll play out.
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You just moved the goalposts. You started this thread saying that you think that Verizon would force tiered pricing on those of us who already have 4g unlimited contracts, and now you moved to when that contract ends.
When the contract ends, Verizon will either extend my unlimited 4g, or I'll move to a company that does offer unlimited 4g. I'll worry about that in about 22 months or so.
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even that's no guarantee. See the current line of smartphones. They still require a plan change to activate if you don't already have a smartphone plan regardless of how you purchase it.
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A plan change to 4G... which every phone in the next 6-7 years will have (possibly longer). You wont have to change any plan if you buy a phone at full retail. Just throw your SIM in the new phone.
4G LTE with a 2-5 GB cap seems ridiculous. Why bother building your infrastructure if people cant even enjoy it? Should almost be illegal how much they charge for data. People complain about gas prices, but what about the raping we take from data and text charges.
These people need to be regulated.
What the hell is this crap? At&t is allowing iphone owners to upgrade to i5 at a subsidized price and still keep their unlimited data. But it's only for iPhone users. First we get screwed for being on Verizon and then we get screwed for not being iSheep? Lame! Here's the info:
AT&T just released a press release announcing availability of the iPhone 5. That certainly shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone, but a tid-bit within the press release certainly has grabbed out attention. AT&T has announced that it will allow those who purchased AT&T’s unlimited data plans from 2007-2010 to continue to use it even when purchasing the iPhone 5 at a subsidized price. AT&T discontinued its unlimited data plan in 2010 and moved to a tiered data plan, which it has since reprised and restructured, but those who originally purchased the unlimited plan were allowed to hang on to it as long as their contract remained unchanged. AT&T has been throttling those plans for different tiers in especially in high traffic areas..
Over the past year Verizon Wireless, like AT&T, has moved away from unlimited plans as users move to new LTE data plans that feature shared data. AT&T has taken a similar approach, offering its customers shared data plans that can be used across every device on a specific plan, including tablets. AT&T is also requiring users to sign-up for the expensive shared plans in order to use iOS 6′s FaceTime over 3G feature. Verizon Wireless on the other hand hasn’t revealed its plans. At the other end, Sprint is continuing its approach to touting its “sharing is not caring” unlimited data plans.
I'd stick with Verizon. Better coverage in most areas. This is a good strategy for AT&T to keep their customers though.
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At least we aren't being forced to move to shared data plans just to use facetime over cellular data. Thats ridiculous. But I feel like this is what Verizon should be doing. Let us unlimited data users keep our unlimited data. But not let it be only for iphone users like AT&T. So if you want this phone on verizon, you'll have to pay about $700 off contract if I'm correct just to keep your unlimited data
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they are compensating for the ridiculously dissapoint iphone
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I'd stick with Verizon. Better coverage in most areas. This is a good strategy for AT&T to keep their customers though.
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True. And plus, AT&T actually DOES throttle their 4G data too! I'll stick to my Verizon unlimited thank you, even if it means I have to pay full price for my phones.
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ATTs LTE coverage is almost non existant, good strategy to keep people from jumping to Verizons LTE boat.
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ATTs LTE coverage is almost non existant, good strategy to keep people from jumping to Verizons LTE boat.
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really? I keep seeing these commercials where att says theyre LTE network is larger than verizon's or something like that
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really? I keep seeing these commercials where att says theyre LTE network is larger than verizon's or something like that
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I don't know how they get away with that, I laugh whenever I see those. Coincidentally I work for a company that is engineering ATTs LTE national rollout and all I can say is that it will be a long while untill ATT catches up with Verizon's LTE coverage.
Even if AT&T's 4g footprint is larger it still isn't true 4g
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The only reason so many people have AT&T is because the original iPhone forced them to that carrier. Years later, most of those people realize there is better service elsewhere. People have no reason to remain loyal. This is a promotion top keep people who could go elsewhere.
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What the hell is this crap? At&t is allowing iphone owners to upgrade to i5 at a subsidized price and still keep their unlimited data. But it's only for iPhone users. First we get screwed for being on Verizon and then we get screwed for not being iSheep? Lame! Here's the info:
AT&T just released a press release announcing availability of the iPhone 5. That certainly shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone, but a tid-bit within the press release certainly has grabbed out attention. AT&T has announced that it will allow those who purchased AT&T’s unlimited data plans from 2007-2010 to continue to use it even when purchasing the iPhone 5 at a subsidized price. AT&T discontinued its unlimited data plan in 2010 and moved to a tiered data plan, which it has since reprised and restructured, but those who originally purchased the unlimited plan were allowed to hang on to it as long as their contract remained unchanged. AT&T has been throttling those plans for different tiers in especially in high traffic areas..
Over the past year Verizon Wireless, like AT&T, has moved away from unlimited plans as users move to new LTE data plans that feature shared data. AT&T has taken a similar approach, offering its customers shared data plans that can be used across every device on a specific plan, including tablets. AT&T is also requiring users to sign-up for the expensive shared plans in order to use iOS 6′s FaceTime over 3G feature. Verizon Wireless on the other hand hasn’t revealed its plans. At the other end, Sprint is continuing its approach to touting its “sharing is not caring” unlimited data plans.
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The part about only iphone IS NOT TRUE. You can upgrade to any smart phone be it iOS,android or WP7/8 and stay on the "unlimited" data plan.
I knew when verizon got bigger than AT&T that they would start doing crap like this and pass AT&T on pissing every one off.
I know if I could get unlimited LTE with a unlocked phone, I would say good by verizon and your sucky locked down phones and your slow as sprint 3G with "droped", but not really droped call's on any phone I have used. ( 2 Razrs and one S3)
Now I like AT&T bashing, but say some thing like they throttle or there sales men try to get you to go to the 3GB plan or send you a bill $20 over the norm with out it being listed as going over my min,text or data. ( They paid for that one)
I think it is a slap in the face to all Android users. I would rather stick with Verizon who f's everyone equally then dictates what phone they think you should use.
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really? I keep seeing these commercials where att says theyre LTE network is larger than verizon's or something like that
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I bet many people like you are thinking that AT&T actually has huge 4G Footprint lol
They have the largest and fastest 3g network there HSPA+ network (I think that's what they call 4g) reaches 8 mb download vs Verizon 2-3 mb on 3g but Verizon has a large and really fast 4g network
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I really with i hadn't caved so easily about loosing my unlimited plan now I'm paying $15 more a month for 5 gigs I guess its too late now.
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Think about why it is only for iphones. They are paying $199 for the number 5 instead of a 4s on the phone. It the same phone, so techniclly they have the same phone. Just they are just losing $199 for no reason.
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xxx420 said:
What the hell is this crap? At&t is allowing iphone owners to upgrade to i5 at a subsidized price and still keep their unlimited data. But it's only for iPhone users. First we get screwed for being on Verizon and then we get screwed for not being iSheep? Lame! Here's the info:
AT&T just released a press release announcing availability of the iPhone 5. That certainly shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone, but a tid-bit within the press release certainly has grabbed out attention. AT&T has announced that it will allow those who purchased AT&T’s unlimited data plans from 2007-2010 to continue to use it even when purchasing the iPhone 5 at a subsidized price. AT&T discontinued its unlimited data plan in 2010 and moved to a tiered data plan, which it has since reprised and restructured, but those who originally purchased the unlimited plan were allowed to hang on to it as long as their contract remained unchanged. AT&T has been throttling those plans for different tiers in especially in high traffic areas..
Over the past year Verizon Wireless, like AT&T, has moved away from unlimited plans as users move to new LTE data plans that feature shared data. AT&T has taken a similar approach, offering its customers shared data plans that can be used across every device on a specific plan, including tablets. AT&T is also requiring users to sign-up for the expensive shared plans in order to use iOS 6′s FaceTime over 3G feature. Verizon Wireless on the other hand hasn’t revealed its plans. At the other end, Sprint is continuing its approach to touting its “sharing is not caring” unlimited data plans.
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Verizon offered me to keep my unlimited data, at 4G speeds, but the total price of my old plan would be higher than my unlimited voice and text with 2 GB of data. Personally, I don't use a ton of 4G, mostly only at work, so this was doable for me. Verizon told me if I moved to a new subsidized phone (the S3) I would lose my unlimited data... So I could have paid full price or brought in my own phone, but my bill went form $172 to $130. Can't complain.
yyhd said:
True. And plus, AT&T actually DOES throttle their 4G data too! I'll stick to my Verizon unlimited thank you, even if it means I have to pay full price for my phones.
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This. After you use your 3 gigs you are throttled to edge speeds... which makes Verizon 3G seem rocket fast.
But AT&T is allowing grandfathering for all devices still (though I'm glad I'm with vzw. I prefer true unlimited). And they allow people to sign up on their old plans. That is what I wish Verizon had actually done. In the past week we have signed up roughly fifteen people on AT&Ts old plans. In fact due to our system being archaic, we can't sign people up directly to the new plans.
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I think they are just advertising it for iPhone because of the boosted sales they might see. AT&T from what I hear is losing customers.
I'm glad the iPhone users can't get unlimited LTE. Less strain on the LTE network for us. Especially for me where basically everybody has an iPhone.
Hello XDA, i have some sad news for you guys. Well, Verizon's new dumb as F*** policy is when you use your upgrade you areNO LONGER ALLOWED to have unlimited data plan!!!!!! I AM DEPRESSED. WHY VERIZON WHYYYYYYY!
jonah1234 said:
Hello XDA, i have some sad news for you guys. Well, Verizon's new dumb as F*** policy is when you use your upgrade you areNO LONGER ALLOWED to have unlimited data plan!!!!!! I AM DEPRESSED. WHY VERIZON WHYYYYYYY!
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... it's been that way since the introduction of the shared data plans, this is nothing new.
jonah1234 said:
Hello XDA, i have some sad news for you guys. Well, Verizon's new dumb as F*** policy is when you use your upgrade you areNO LONGER ALLOWED to have unlimited data plan!!!!!! I AM DEPRESSED. WHY VERIZON WHYYYYYYY!
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So just buy a nice phone online somewhere. Then your not technical upgrading and keep unlimited data.
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That's why I buy phones of eBay or craigslist with cracked screens or bad LCD. And fix them.. I've never paid more that 150 for a phone.. I have 2 tbolts that I need to fix more and a rezound... I'm never upgrading as long as people are clumsy...Lol
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The Gazelle store on ebay has some nice, gently used phones. It's probably where I'll be getting my next phone from.
quickdraw86 said:
... it's been that way since the introduction of the shared data plans, this is nothing new.
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Yeah, I thought everyone knew this.
To keep unlimited, never use your upgrade, ever.
That said, I think VZW will probably end unlimited completely in the near future.
reg442 said:
That's why I buy phones of eBay or craigslist with cracked screens or bad LCD. And fix them.. I've never paid more that 150 for a phone.. I have 2 tbolts that I need to fix more and a rezound... I'm never upgrading as long as people are clumsy...Lol
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I've bought some really nice ones off eBay, mint condition too. Worked great as soon as they were rooted lol
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Yeah but It is more expensive
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+1 - No everyone knew, My TBolt still on contract till December 1 however I can able keep my unlimited account by buying full retail price of Samsung GSIII and No ETF fee at all! I can't complain!
I did ask one of my buddy who work for Verizon and he said that they will not end unlimited (grandfathered) completely unless you volunteer upgrade eligible or upgrade smartphone replace the current grandfathered phone.
plambda said:
Yeah, I thought everyone knew this.
To keep unlimited, never use your upgrade, ever.
That said, I think VZW will probably end unlimited completely in the near future.
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Yeah I was looking the other day at phones and just had to ask also. No go for the unlimited on new phone unless you pay full price.
But I knew the answer before I even went in.
I actually went to Verizon yesterday and talked to a guy about the plans.
Yes, Verizon will no longer have unlimited data available to anyone... no matter if you're "grandfathered" in.
However, check your monthly data usage... you might be surprised at how little of data you actually do use each month.
Turns out that when it comes time for me to change my plan, I'll be saving more money from month to month.
This does vary from person to person, though. It's definitely worth looking at.
You can also keep your unlimited data by not renewing your contract and buying a phone from offline somewhere or at full price from Verizon. Just call Verizon and tell them you need to make an ESN swap to active your new phone.
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RBarnett09 said:
I actually went to Verizon yesterday and talked to a guy about the plans.
Yes, Verizon will no longer have unlimited data available to anyone... no matter if you're "grandfathered" in.
You can also keep your unlimited data by not renewing your contract and buying a phone from offline somewhere or at full price from Verizon. Just call Verizon and tell them you need to make an ESN swap to active your new phone.
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so, you're saying that ALL unlimited plans will be axed in the future? i've done my own research, and don't want to debate at all either way, but am unsure what you meant in your post.
I heard that u can keep your unlimited but just like he said u will have to pay full price for your phone if u wanna keep it that is what I was told by a vzw rep. I personally burn about 13-14 GB a month so I do not wanna lose my unlimited lol
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bostonbassman78 said:
I heard that u can keep your unlimited but just like he said u will have to pay full price for your phone if u wanna keep it that is what I was told by a vzw rep. I personally burn about 13-14 GB a month so I do not wanna lose my unlimited lol
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that's what i was told by several VZW reps. as well. when i called and spoke to a phone rep., she told me that VZW would never force paying unlimited customers (grandfathered) onto any other plans to continue service. how accurate that is, only time will tell.
quickdraw86 said:
that's what i was told by several VZW reps. as well. when i called and spoke to a phone rep., she told me that VZW would never force paying unlimited customers (grandfathered) onto any other plans to continue service. how accurate that is, only time will tell.
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They better not get rid if it lol I already have 700$ saved for the next nexus whatever and whoever makes it lol
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so, you're saying that ALL unlimited plans will be axed in the future? i've done my own research, and don't want to debate at all either way, but am unsure what you meant in your post.
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They won't get rid of it if you currently have the unlimited data plan unless you renew or sign a contract. Unlimited data is no longer an option with the service plan.
As long as you keep the Verizon service and do not sign into another contract, unlimited data will be with you.
If you want to upgrade to another phone, you'll have to buy it off of the internet from someone or walk into Verizon and pay full price for the phone only... without starting a new contract or plan.
This is the only way you can avoid losing unlimited data.
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bostonbassman78 said:
They better not get rid if it lol I already have 700$ saved for the next nexus whatever and whoever makes it lol
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yeah, no kidding. my monthly data average is too obscene to be posted here!
quickdraw86 said:
yeah, no kidding. my monthly data average is too obscene to be posted here!
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Lmfao
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You will not be able to change from one phone to another online anymore either.
If you do, it will tell you that changing to this device requires a change to your plan.
If you want to change from the Thunderbolt to... let's say a Galaxy S3, you'll have to call Verizon and talk to a customer service rep. and they will have to change it for you. Just tell them you need to make an ESN swap from the Thunderbolt to the Galaxy S3 and they will have no problem what so ever in changing it over for you without making any changes to your "plan"... even if you don't technically have one and they will not force you into a contract either. *At least not yet* and let's hope it stays that way.
Verizon will not turn down paying customers.
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Does buying a phone at full price, still get coverage by insurance just in case I damage it?
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