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AT&T Service for Captivate

I've done some looking around, and I found the Captivate at Newegg.com for $79.99 with a renewal of contract, BEWARE!!!!!
I didn't get the warm and fuzzies from Newegg, so I stopped the process with them and called AT&T. Here's what I found:
My existing plan affords me the unlimited Data, without the new data plan restrictions.
When you buy from one of these Authorized AT&T Dealers, they effectively cancel your existing contract, and start a new contract with their name, and that is how they get paid(from AT&T). The Up side is you can get a Captivate for $79.99, the down side is if you have a "true" unlimited data package, you will loose it, and get the data plan with the cap.

That's not completely true..
If you mean "authorized dealers" such as LetsTalk or wirefly .. they let you keep your old unlimited 30$ data plan.. I'm a little surprise newegg wouldn't let you do that.. try calling newegg and argue it back.

Best Buy was able to do this for me as well, selling at the 99.99 price and giving me the unlimited data after a call to AT&T.

darkamikaze said:
That's not completely true..
If you mean "authorized dealers" such as LetsTalk or wirefly .. they let you keep your old unlimited 30$ data plan.. I'm a little surprise newegg wouldn't let you do that.. try calling newegg and argue it back.
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I dont know about LetsTalk or Wirefly, but Newegg said I would keep my data plan, and appearance wise, it would all remain the same, but it was the AT&T Rep that said the plan would technically change, I would be changing the plan and I would loose the current true unlimited data plan, and would be under the new unlimited data plan that actually has a limit. That's why, they could only offer me the cheaper phone IF my plan was still offered by AT&T.

Amazon.com is selling the captivate for .01 with a new contract.
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Bought my captivate for [email protected], and there was an option to keep the unlimited plan. Sounds like you got hosed.
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I don't know about the contract changes and stuff but, I got mine for $9.99 off Wirefly with a new 2 year contract. Needed 3 lines, now I have 3 lines..lol

Mnay "authorized dealers" treat a new contract different then an upgrade. Some of these deals ONLY apply to new contracts and it is up to the retailer to decide. New Contracts should not get Unlimited Data - even AT&T store managers get in trouble for doing this. Upgrades to hardware on current contracts do allow you to keep the unlimited data plan if you have it already.
There is nothing magic here, but if you are not sure, you should ask.

I was able to keep my unlimited plan when ordered from letstalk.
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I also just ordered my Captivate from Amazon for 1 penny (new contract, 4 lines). Quick off topic question, how is the call quality?

I just purchased from WireFly and was able to my unlimited data package no problem. What's odd here is NewEgg uses the same company called Simplexity, that being said there should be NO issues with keeping your current unlimited data plan.
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I went thru letstalk and they set me up on the limited..I called at&t adn told em I didn't want the plan and I wanted my old one that was grandfathered in. They said ok but not again. I bricked my phone and sent it back to lettalk and they sent mea phone back and changed the data plan on me again...I had to call at&t but they set me back to unlimited data for $30. I thought they were going to allow folks to keep the unlimited forever so long that they stayed with at&t

zeezz said:
Best Buy was able to do this for me as well, selling at the 99.99 price and giving me the unlimited data after a call to AT&T.
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How'd you manage this price? They are showing $149 right now online... any haggling?

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How'd you manage this price? They are showing $149 right now online... any haggling?
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costco has it for 99$ too with free bt

I thought I read somewhere they were 99 cents at Amazon.?
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darkamikaze said:
costco has it for 99$ too with free bt
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Is that for new or upgrade?

There are some GREAT prices out there for the Cap no doubt, I was just warning everyone about what AT&T told me regarding these plans. I didn't want anyone with the true Unlimited Data to loose it, and get stuck with the "New" Unlimited Data, which is capped at 2gig's per month(Not sure of the exact limit)

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upgrade :x

A buddy of mine has an iPhone 3g and will be upgrading to a Captivate. He called and made sure about his data. If your already on the unlimited, then you get to keep the unlimited. But if you drop it from unlimited..you don't get it back.

Warning - TMO trying to force upgrade to expensive Internet plan to get upgrade price

I have an unlimited $14.99 internet plan, and at the TMo store, I was told I had to upgrade it to a $30/month plan to get the upgrade price for the phone. I just walked out.
If anyone finds a good way around this BS, please post.

Are you available for an upgrade? Typically they will grandfather in plans if you are available for your regular upgrade, but if you try to ask for an upgrade early they will force you to more expensive plans.
Your best bet is to call up T-Mobile and talk to their Customer Loyalty/Retention department. Depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they work wonders for you, albeit you would have to wait for your phone to arrive in the mail.

I need to fight with them today myself. I have a family plan and already had one phone with a $25 unlimited plan on it. When I added this line they put me on a $30 plan and did not grandfather in the $25 rate.
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DarkAgent said:
Are you available for an upgrade? Typically they will grandfather in plans if you are available for your regular upgrade, but if you try to ask for an upgrade early they will force you to more expensive plans.
Your best bet is to call up T-Mobile and talk to their Customer Loyalty/Retention department. Depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they work wonders for you, albeit you would have to wait for your phone to arrive in the mail.
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Will try calling. I was eligible on this line, but they want to force people off the cheaper plans (some nexus users are still on $5.99 plan).
PS - went to their website, and it offered the upgrade, but when I started the process, it popped up a "warning" that I would have to revisit their website after they shipped it and set up an "android" plan.
Tempted to go through the process on my credit card (not on my TMo account credit - so they cannot pull back the upgrade "discount"), and when I get the phone - just put the SIM in and see what happens.
AT $180/year more for the data plan, it would be better for me to just pay the full price. Will get most of it back from my Nexus on eBay if I decide to keep the phone past the remorse period.

Fight harder -- depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they will give you their new Android Premium Web for $20 a month.

I have been with them before they officially started up in the US (used them in Germany).
On hold - will see....
Guess what - from customer retention - $99 for the upgrade (not $199), and the $30 "android" plan for $20/month. I also have a 20 day period to return and restore my existing data plan.
From this and one other experience, it appears customer retention should be the way to go as a normal upgrade route (that is how I got the $14.99 unlimited plan a while back).

What's this Android Premium Web? I have been with them for over 5 years on the family account. My work account has been with them since the voicestream days.
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Android Premium Web is just the official name for the $30/month unlimited data plan for Android phones.

That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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jovan285 said:
That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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Would they also be doing that to existing $5.99 - $14.99 "unlimited" plans?

jovan285 said:
That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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First of all, the soft cap is 5 GB, not 3 GB. Secondly, I hear if you live in an area where there is HSPA+, after 5 GB they will drop you to 3G, then after 10 GB they will drop you to edge.
Secondly, it is still "unlimited" because you can still use the Internet -- just at slower speeds.
Lastly, they send you a text message telling you they throttled your speed, so you know. If you have been a customer with T-Mobile for a while, and/or this only happens to you once in a while, calling up T-Mobile can typically get them to remove the throttle.

gaww said:
Would they also be doing that to existing $5.99 - $14.99 "unlimited" plans?
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Not sure, but they probably do.

i pay $20.00 for unl. inter. you need to call customer care and order your phone from them in order to keep your cheap inter.

I'm not sure why you guys think you deserve the right for an early upgrade when you are currently locked into a 2 year contract. If you try to talk them into it they have no choice but to force you to get the new prices.
I've never understood the purpose of locking yourself into a new 2 year contract every time a new phone comes out. If a new phone is coming out, and you KNOW for a fact you want it, then save up ahead of time and buy it full price. That way you can keep your old grandfather plans with the much cheaper pricing. Or you can do what I'm doing and go with their EM+ solutions, which only T-Mobile offers, and have a much cheaper monthly bill but buy your phones outright. It saves much more money, just sell your current phone on craigslist and pay the difference.
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I was not locked in on the line I upgraded with.
Currently using Nexus from eBay - will be selling it back there IF I decide to keep the 4G. If not, I have 20 days to return and go back to grandfathered plan.
I had been thinking about just paying full price and keeping my $14.99 plan if they had stuck with $30 for the plan.
What is their EM+ solutions and do you know what the EM+ price would be on this device?

Arcadia310 said:
I've never understood the purpose of locking yourself into a new 2 year contract every time a new phone comes out. If a new phone is coming out, and you KNOW for a fact you want it, then save up ahead of time and buy it full price. That way you can keep your old grandfather plans with the much cheaper pricing. Or you can do what I'm doing and go with their EM+ solutions, which only T-Mobile offers, and have a much cheaper monthly bill but buy your phones outright. It saves much more money, just sell your current phone on craigslist and pay the difference.
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Well, it can't get any cheaper than what I'm paying - $30 voice and $20 data. I may get more minutes with EM+, but I don't need them. And, by upgrading I don't have to change plans or anything. So, I get the phone at subsidized pricing as I know I'll be with T-Mo anyway. Furthermore, if I DO need to change providers for any extreme reason, the ETF drops over time, so nothing is lost and everything is gained, at least for me.

My t mobile rep let me stay with my hd2 data plan as long as it worked with the phone. Which it did.
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Scoop24 said:
My t mobile rep let me stay with my hd2 data plan as long as it worked with the phone. Which it did.
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Was that at full price or "upgrade" price?

gaww said:
Was that at full price or "upgrade" price?
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I upgraded
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I didn't have this problem at all

4G Pricing - "Grandfathering"

Can someone point me to wording in the contract which specifies that current customers with LTE-capable phones will be grandfathered when tiered pricing comes this summer?
I'm not looking for anecdotes of past grandfathering, since comments by the VZW CFO indicate that they'll be leveraging LTE pricing for a revenue boost. It's my opinion that there's no precedent for the move to tiered LTE pricing, and that current LTE contracts will revert to a tiered plan on subsequent contracts.
Asking because I keep seeing assertions that LTE grandfathering is a sure bet, when all signs say otherwise. I understand this is a touchy subject; having broached it before, people get quite emotional in their claims that they're entitled to existing prices until the end of time.

You won't find anything because there is none. No one here knows if/how Verizon will grandfather.

Guys... calm down. You signed a contract stating UNLIMITED DATA. They cant take it away from you without breaching the contract. In that case they will have to let you go (no ETF) or simply be sued.

psufan5 said:
Guys... calm down. You signed a contract stating UNLIMITED DATA. They cant take it away from you without breaching the contract. In that case they will have to let you go (no ETF) or simply be sued.
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what he said. you are under contact so they can not change the terms of the contract, otherwise they beach the contract.

I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving

DroidDont said:
I'm not looking for anecdotes of past grandfathering, since comments by the VZW CFO indicate that they'll be leveraging LTE pricing for a revenue boost. It's my opinion that there's no precedent for the move to tiered LTE pricing, and that current LTE contracts will revert to a tiered plan on subsequent contracts.
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Bolded the important part for the reading-impaired.

macewank said:
I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
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thats what I would like to know

macewank said:
I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
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Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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luniz7 said:
Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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even that's no guarantee. See the current line of smartphones. They still require a plan change to activate if you don't already have a smartphone plan regardless of how you purchase it.

you should be good as long as you stay with a 4g phone when upgrading and extending your contract in the future, when going from 3g to 4g the system automatically adds/removes 4g/3g. If you're that worried, double check before signing your contract that it is still showing your unlimited 29.99, if it's not, make them get it fixed (unless something changes in the future they force you to lose the unlimited) but I see people on alltell calling plans all the time and outdated calling plans. same goes for outdated data plans.

luniz7 said:
Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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whats the price on retail smartphones?

Thats why i got the phone as soon as possible to get the 4g data for the first 2 years with the phone.

mbrown3460 said:
whats the price on retail smartphones?
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$700 for the TB, 800 for Iphone, 700 for samsung drioid -retail pricing

psylink said:
you should be good as long as you stay with a 4g phone when upgrading and extending your contract in the future, when going from 3g to 4g the system automatically adds/removes 4g/3g. If you're that worried, double check before signing your contract that it is still showing your unlimited 29.99, if it's not, make them get it fixed (unless something changes in the future they force you to lose the unlimited) but I see people on alltell calling plans all the time and outdated calling plans. same goes for outdated data plans.
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This is the kind of ill-informed advice I'm talking about.
Again, read and listen to the communication from the money side of VZW. It's my informed opinion that unlimited pricing will no longer be an option at upgrade time when current contracts expire.
What happened in the past with acquisitions is completely unrelated to the current situation.

Until your contract expires nothing will change. Now there is no precedence, but when you upgrade your phone, you usually can RENEW your contract, if you don't change anything, it SHOULD remain the same, but that is all subjective.

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$700 for the TB, 800 for Iphone, 700 for samsung drioid -retail pricing
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Jesus! do Verizon have a trade in program?

Working in the wireless industry for several years, the only way to guarantee unlimited LTE is to have a rep confirm you're grandfathered and demand that they put notes in your account stating this. The notes are where its at. A coworker's wife is a regional trainer for VZW and she has no idea how it'll play out.
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You just moved the goalposts. You started this thread saying that you think that Verizon would force tiered pricing on those of us who already have 4g unlimited contracts, and now you moved to when that contract ends.
When the contract ends, Verizon will either extend my unlimited 4g, or I'll move to a company that does offer unlimited 4g. I'll worry about that in about 22 months or so.
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PJnc284 said:
even that's no guarantee. See the current line of smartphones. They still require a plan change to activate if you don't already have a smartphone plan regardless of how you purchase it.
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A plan change to 4G... which every phone in the next 6-7 years will have (possibly longer). You wont have to change any plan if you buy a phone at full retail. Just throw your SIM in the new phone.

4G LTE with a 2-5 GB cap seems ridiculous. Why bother building your infrastructure if people cant even enjoy it? Should almost be illegal how much they charge for data. People complain about gas prices, but what about the raping we take from data and text charges.
These people need to be regulated.

No more unlimited data :(

After having heard the news about Verizon getting rid of their unlimited data plan, I felt a chill run down my spine, thinking what if Tmobile did this. Then I googled "Verizon no data plan" and found out that AT&T was the first to get rid of their unlimited plans.
I pray to God, that the AT&T buy out of Tmobile will not go through. If it does and they get rid of our unlimited plan, then this G2x will be my last smart phone, because let's face it, there's a movement to destroy the U.S. economy, not only is the dollar losing it's value, but most people have less income and living expenses are increasing, and now the mobile carriers are getting into it and milking us till our nipples bleed.
What will yall do if Tmobile ceases to offer us unlimited data, or AT&T buy out goes through? Have you looked at the cost of their data plans? Ridiculous!

All current t-mobile subscribers would get grandfathered in, so we wouldn't have to worry.

I'm on the same boat as you. My plan has 5 smartphones in it and without unlimited data, my bill would go through the roof. It's gotten to the point where my laptop is a side gadget. Haha
Also, as a previous ATT customer, I can say that everything about that company is ****...
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I would have a pace maker installed for my heart cause I can't live without my smartphone anymore.
Or get a third full time job to pay the extra cost of the bill. Luckily I have a lot of dumb people that live around me so I have lots of open Wifi to steal internet from too.
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I recently (2 months ago) switched to a carrier called Simple Mobile. UNLIMITED everything for $60.00 a month. Network is all on the same as the T-Mobile frequencies, I do get 4G just as fast as my buddy who is still on T-Mo.
In areas where coverage is limited it switches over to the T-Mo network.

jacob808 said:
After having heard the news about Verizon getting rid of their unlimited data plan, I felt a chill run down my spine, thinking what if Tmobile did this. Then I googled "Verizon no data plan" and found out that AT&T was the first to get rid of their unlimited plans.
I pray to God, that the AT&T buy out of Tmobile will not go through. If it does and they get rid of our unlimited plan, then this G2x will be my last smart phone, because let's face it, there's a movement to destroy the U.S. economy, not only is the dollar losing it's value, but most people have less income and living expenses are increasing, and now the mobile carriers are getting into it and milking us till our nipples bleed.
What will yall do if Tmobile ceases to offer us unlimited data, or AT&T buy out goes through? Have you looked at the cost of their data plans? Ridiculous!
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Um.....I thought they stopped a few months ago. With their more and even more plans...and soon with their Value/Classic plans. Unless we're talking about 2 different things here
Did you read this rumor? http://www.tmonews.com/2011/06/in-depth-with-t-mobiles-new-classic-and-value-rate-plans/

Let them take away unlimited plan cuz they will just recieve a bunch of disconnects cuz i for one know a smart phone requires way to much bandwidth to even try to pay as you go teir plans.
This is BS how U.S. cell companies get away with this highway robbery. We are about to default on the countries debt.. millions of people without jobs and they want to penny pinch some more out of us.
Secondly we dont even have real 4G speeds and Singapore has faster and cheaper cell plans then us... wow its just sad
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They are doing it because with smart phones, unlimited data isn't a realistic option with current infrastructure and technology in mind. Its too costly to let people use 30 gigabytes of data a month with no additional penalty on the customers part. 95 percent of users fall within the tier limits of 2gb or less.
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Yes the unlimited data thing really blows, I use my wireless hotspot to connect my wifi iPad to and watch movies and work remotely. I average about 25GB a month, but now with all these caps its going to be like having Comcast. They call me up several times a year and threaten to d/c me because I'm always going over their 250GB cap. The thing is, almost 200GB come from the three TV's that are constantly streaming HULU and Netflix, and the rest is normal internet stuff.
This is going to really screw me up, I guess I'll have to ask for my work to contribute more towards my calling plan.

You don't have to worry about it. FTC regulations state that when a firm acquires another, it must honor any and all lingering agreements of the acquired firm. Meaning if AT&T does buy T-Mobile they are legally obligated to provide you with the service you were promised by TM.

Everything gets abused. What's the point of smart device that you cannot acess all of it's cool features?
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You don't have to worry about it. FTC regulations state that when a firm acquires another, it must honor any and all lingering agreements of the acquired firm. Meaning if AT&T does buy T-Mobile they are legally obligated to provide you with the service you were promised by TM.
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All current t-mobile subscribers would get grandfathered in, so we wouldn't have to worry.
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Sure, you'll have service, and your data will be EDGE after they shut down the T-Mo 3/4G. I dont think anywhere in the contract does it say they are obligated to give you a certain throughput. So after you are fed up with slow data you will be force to buy a new phone.. BUT, will this mean that we can get a new "LTE 4G" ATT phone, unlock it and have our grandfathered plan from former T-Mo with new ATT network??

I imagine AT&T would offer something where we can upgrade to a GSM-compatible phone at minimal if any charge. Even if they don't advertise something like that, it would almost certainly be an option their customer service can push through.
Effectively ruining pretty much every smartphone customer's phone would be PR suicide, and possibly even grounds for a class-action lawsuit.

Yes AT& T will honor our plans, until you need to change a service or phone and then you will have to go to there plans!
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jacob808 said:
After having heard the news about Verizon getting rid of their unlimited data plan, I felt a chill run down my spine, thinking what if Tmobile did this. Then I googled "Verizon no data plan" and found out that AT&T was the first to get rid of their unlimited plans.
I pray to God, that the AT&T buy out of Tmobile will not go through. If it does and they get rid of our unlimited plan, then this G2x will be my last smart phone, because let's face it, there's a movement to destroy the U.S. economy, not only is the dollar losing it's value, but most people have less income and living expenses are increasing, and now the mobile carriers are getting into it and milking us till our nipples bleed.
What will yall do if Tmobile ceases to offer us unlimited data, or AT&T buy out goes through? Have you looked at the cost of their data plans? Ridiculous!
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T-mobile still has unlimited data but you have caps now, once you hit your cap you get bumped down to Edge (2G) speeds.

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All current t-mobile subscribers would get grandfathered in, so we wouldn't have to worry.
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All current t-mobile subscribers that are on contract when the buyout proceeds would get grandfathered in for the duration of their contract.
Then, they'll no longer grandfather your plan and will force you to "upgrade" to their current plans.
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Sure, you'll have service, and your data will be EDGE after they shut down the T-Mo 3/4G. I dont think anywhere in the contract does it say they are obligated to give you a certain throughput. So after you are fed up with slow data you will be force to buy a new phone.. BUT, will this mean that we can get a new "LTE 4G" ATT phone, unlock it and have our grandfathered plan from former T-Mo with new ATT network??
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This transition should be a few years in the making after the buyout proceeds. Every customer who bought a 3G/4G phone should be off-contract by the time the transition happens & then they'd offer you a new phone with a contract extension (like normal). This shouldn't be a big deal at all.
AT&T is under zero obligation to honor the TMO plans after the term of your contract is up (and even then, if it 'costs' them too much to honor it, they can cancel the contract and force you to either update or leave, but at least you'd be able to leave without an ETF). From what I've read, they didn't grandfather the Cingular plans for most people, so I don't see why they'll grandfather the TMO plans now (meaning after your contract is up, they have no reason to continue allowing you to use the TMO pricing).

Sigh, this really sucks. I hope the government disallows this merger. For people like me who only supports GSM tech, this is a freaking disaster and is obviously a monopoly. How can the government not see this. 1 GSM network is NOT a choice.
However, I'm guessing when AT&T was willing to say that they'd pay T-Mobile if the merger doesn't go through, they've probably paid off the right people with millions to make sure that they don't actually have to pay off that few billions since the merger will go through regardless. The so-called due-process currently occurring is likely to be a sham =(
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All current t-mobile subscribers that are on contract when the buyout proceeds would get grandfathered in for the duration of their contract.
Then, they'll no longer grandfather your plan and will force you to "upgrade" to their current plans.
This transition should be a few years in the making after the buyout proceeds. Every customer who bought a 3G/4G phone should be off-contract by the time the transition happens & then they'd offer you a new phone with a contract extension (like normal). This shouldn't be a big deal at all.
AT&T is under zero obligation to honor the TMO plans after the term of your contract is up (and even then, if it 'costs' them too much to honor it, they can cancel the contract and force you to either update or leave, but at least you'd be able to leave without an ETF). From what I've read, they didn't grandfather the Cingular plans for most people, so I don't see why they'll grandfather the TMO plans now (meaning after your contract is up, they have no reason to continue allowing you to use the TMO pricing).
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hasn't this merger already passed? people keep saying that it will happen but still nothing.

it should pass by next year

Well as it stands right now I'm at 8.6 out of 5Gb of unlimited data on my G2X and its been throttled to 60Kbps. its throughput is roughly 7.1KB per second when downloading a file. so I might as well not even have a smart phone since I cant even check my damn email or use the FB/Google+ apps.

What are your plans with the TB and Verizon?

Given the Thunderbolt is getting out-of-date more or less, and that Verizon has ditched upgrading AND keeping unlimited data, where do you stand?

What does "upgrade" mean for a current 4g customer - any change to any new phone? What about Sprint's unlimited plan? Why aren't more people talking about that as an option?

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What does "upgrade" mean for a current 4g customer - any change to any new phone? What about Sprint's unlimited plan? Why aren't more people talking about that as an option?
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Sprint has crap coverage in my area and who wants a phone that barely works indoors. Plus they throttle their unlimited users.
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Upgrade as in upgrade through Verizon, sign a two year contract, thereby sacrificing unlimited data.
+1 Sprint sucks, at least until they have a nationwide LTE network...then..maybe.

Im not going to upgrade through Verizon. My wife doesn't even want to lose unlimited data. Plus their new plan will cost us $40 more a month.
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More power to ya, we're in the same boat.

I will wait a year or so and upgrade to the Sammy S3 or the vigor/Tbolt 2 once they are slightly less new. I'll pay less for them on my own and keep unlimited. Losing unlimited is not worth getting the latest toy. The current tbolt is not bad with a new rom loaded.

jimmyco2008 said:
Upgrade as in upgrade through Verizon, sign a two year contract, thereby sacrificing unlimited data.
+1 Sprint sucks, at least until they have a nationwide LTE network...then..maybe.
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This is bull****! How is that an "upgrade", because I continue my existing service for an additional term? Upgrade implies an improvement in some manner. What's the improvement- my new phone? That characterization is subjective at best. Bastards! Sons'a *****es!

I'm waiting for a Nexus phone that I can purchase directly thru the Google Play Store. However, I doubt Google will be able to develop a CDMA phone without Verizon or Sprints collaboration. I don't want to give up my unlimited data plan because I use 20gb a month streaming video and music.
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Yeah I got pretty excited when I saw the GalNex on Google Play for a reasonable what, $400? And then I saw the HSPA.

I plan on keeping my plan at any cost
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
I plan on keeping my plan at any cost
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Once my contract is up I will sell my bolt and ditch Verizon. I will buy another phone outright then go with straight talk.

I'm up for renewal in about never, so I'll keep the T'bolt and see what the developers do with ICS and JB and Sense 4.x (VZW has already said ICS will come ONLY with Sense 3.x so I'll skip the official ICS release) and make any decision later.

Probably just stick with them and hope that they'll make some change in the near future about upgrading.

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I will wait a year or so and upgrade to the Sammy S3 or the vigor/Tbolt 2 once they are slightly less new. I'll pay less for them on my own and keep unlimited. Losing unlimited is not worth getting the latest toy. The current tbolt is not bad with a new rom loaded.
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Same here. I don't mind the Tbolt with a custom ROM and having it with unlimited data is better for me than having the latest piece of hardware. It's also nice to know that replacement parts for this phone are fairly inexpensive.

Go on www.cowboom.com and buy a good condition pre-owned phone. I've got my eye on the rezound if my Tbolt fails.
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Is there a viable prepaid market for smart phones? Guess if there is, you'd be stuck with crap phones...
I'll see what Verizon does when upgrade time comes. But I'm not sure what my other options are...
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My fear is if I pay $650 for a razr maxx vzw will take my unlimited data away anyway. A phone rep told me all unlimited data plans will be taken away in "a year".

So how does it work, is the only way to get a new phone and keep unlimited to buy used or at full price? Or would upgrading at like best buy mobile be any different than upgrading directly through Verizon?
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Yes, u must pay full price or used. Some have claimed they were able to upgrade and keep data plan in vzw website but others have denied it.