I just wanted to put this out there since people seem to be asking about it time after time.
I enjoy the Sense camera. It is probably my favourite feature of Sense. I also do not like the Camera in AOSP ROMs. It is one of my most hated features of AOSP. But, we cannot at this point have the Sense Camera in AOSP ROMs. I will explain why below.
In the Sense Camera's APK (Package File) the Sense Camera, much like other applications, uses APIs which reference specific parts of the ROM its running. For example, in Holo-looking apps, all the stuff drawn for the most part is not coded into there using images. Instead, it references the image files and layouts from the framework of ICS ROMs (which is also why Holo apps will probably never work on GB either).
This is very similar to the situation that the Sense camera on AOSP is in. Sense is not just a "skin" sitting atop Android. It is integrated directly into the framework of the ROM. It contains APIs that are not usually present in AOSP ROMs. Because of this, it is impossible currently to run the Sense camera in the AOSP environment. However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
If you want the Sense Camera, then use a Sense based ROM. You will most probably never be able to run the Sense camera on AOSP ROMs.
For now, in AOSP I am using "UCam" from the market. It has a bunch of the features from the Sense camera that I enjoy.
Thx rohan. I appreciate all your work. I have aokp as a nandroid right now on my phone but am back on cleanrom just because of the camera. The rest of the rom is amazing. I will give ucam a shot.
Does video work with it?
Nm just restored. Can't connect to camera error with video.
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rohan32 said:
I just wanted to put this out there since people seem to be asking about it time after time.
I enjoy the Sense camera. It is probably my favourite feature of Sense. I also do not like the Camera in AOSP ROMs. It is one of my most hated features of AOSP. But, we cannot at this point have the Sense Camera in AOSP ROMs. I will explain why below.
In the Sense Camera's APK (Package File) the Sense Camera, much like other applications, uses APIs which reference specific parts of the ROM its running. For example, in Holo-looking apps, all the stuff drawn for the most part is not coded into there using images. Instead, it references the image files and layouts from the framework of ICS ROMs (which is also why Holo apps will probably never work on GB either).
This is very similar to the situation that the Sense camera on AOSP is in. Sense is not just a "skin" sitting atop Android. It is integrated directly into the framework of the ROM. It contains APIs that are not usually present in AOSP ROMs. Because of this, it is impossible currently to run the Sense camera in the AOSP environment. However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
If you want the Sense Camera, then use a Sense based ROM. You will most probably never be able to run the Sense camera on AOSP ROMs.
For now, in AOSP I am using "UCam" from the market. It has a bunch of the features from the Sense camera that I enjoy.
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Thanks for posting this. As a huge fan of the Sense camera app, it's disappointing to read, but it's also good to know the technical details behind the limitations.
Not to mention proprietary drivers for the image sense chip. You won't get those either.
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I'm in love with Nocturnal's Senseless ROM at the moment.
Which, while I'm sure is built upon sense, has a nearly complete AOSP look and feel....and has the awesome sense camera UI.
A worthy compromise?
I'm so glad that this thread exists. I assumed that this was the reason that I hadn't seen the Sense camera ported to any AOSP ROM and having it confirmed just puts my mind at ease. Now I don't need to keep hunting and waiting. I've been trying out UCam and it's been working pretty great. I still miss the tight integration with the image chip and can notice a difference between the Sense camera and other apps, but I figure it's just a compromise I have to make to get all the best features of custom ROMs.
I would love to see this exist! If someone can point me in the direction of where to learn I'm sure I could try!
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However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
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Thanks for the great explanation.
You used to be around the Xoom forums when it was first released, right? That smali editing sounds like what BRD did to give us those amazing Tiamat ROMs early on.
Would a bounty thread help? I'll start it off with $50!
Billy
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Thanks rohan for the detailed explanation.
We just need this guy to make a gingerMODesk rom for the One X. Basically the most AOSPed ROM you can get without the lack of the nice features from the SGS2 Touchwisz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220283
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We just need this guy to make a gingerMODesk rom for the One X. Basically the most AOSPed ROM you can get without the lack of the nice features from the SGS2 Touchwisz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220283
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Thats basically one of the cleanROMs that scott makes (i forget what its called... developer mode? something)
what other camera app uses the image sense chip in our HOX
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Hey Rohan, First thanks for all the work you are doing.
I meant no disrespect when I expressed my concerns. I was just curious if this could be done. I understand the situation much better now, and thanks for the further clarification.
Keep up the good work.
Honestly not having the Sense camera is whats holding me back from flashing other roms, you really never know how good it is till you use other rom cameras.
I take a lot of pics (instagram junkie) and when I compare pic quality its almost night and day. There are some great - teriffic roms out, but the sense camera is just that good.
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Honestly not having the Sense camera is whats holding me back from flashing other roms, you really never know how good it is till you use other rom cameras.
I take a lot of pics (instagram junkie) and when I compare pic quality its almost night and day. There are some great - teriffic roms out, but the sense camera is just that good.
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We had a discussion about this over in the AOKP thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29914879&postcount=1417
Long story short - a lot of what makes the Sense camera better is the fact it automatically sharpens the image and does a bit of noise reduction.
In MIUI V5 they use sense camera, and I dont think MIUI is based on sense framework. Is it? If not how have they done it?
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In MIUI V5 they use sense camera, and I dont think MIUI is based on sense framework. Is it? If not how have they done it?
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But it is sense based
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Honestly, the only thing I really am missing from Sense camera is slow-motion. I want that on my N5 so bad. I used it a lot actually.
My HOXl for your Nexus?
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21159-rom22-03-2012virtuous-primadonna-v1120-alpha-1-sense-4a-403/
Its getting worked on... This stuff is fairly difficult to do, and I know that every single dev or member that could get this working has a life outside of xda... Patience young grasshopper... :beer:
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i just want a 5 icon launcher that keeps my sense widgets in place. i really hate the ugly 3 button rosie, but the sense widgets are undeniable and i can't do without them.
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i just want a 5 icon launcher that keeps my sense widgets in place. i really hate the ugly 3 button rosie, but the sense widgets are undeniable and i can't do without them.
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I hear you on that one, I keep trying AOSP ROMs but always go back to Sense for the widgets
I hate to impose, but I am the Ocean
The Rom linked in the op is great, but It's a light version of Sense, no carousel, no weather animations, no PhotoGrid widget, all 3 of them is why I run Sense 3.0 or alike. I would wait until a full version of Sense 4.0 is released before anything was to be ported. Although RAM was outstanding while running the Rom, again it was a light version with tons of the great left out. One thing that stands out In the Rom is the camera, because you have the ability to record video or take a picture with the push of a button (like over and under buttons one for pic and other for video) rather than switching between the two and waiting a hot second or 2. I'm wondering if the Sense 4.0 camera can be ported to the Shift though, as we've seen the Shift can handle newer mods, I'm just not sure what's changed within their camera
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The Rom linked in the op is great, but It's a light version of Sense, no carousel, no weather animations, no PhotoGrid widget, all 3 of them is why I run Sense 3.0 or alike. I would wait until a full version of Sense 4.0 is released before anything was to be ported. Although RAM was outstanding while running the Rom, again it was a light version with tons of the great left out. One thing that stands out In the Rom is the camera, because you have the ability to record video or take a picture with the push of a button (like over and under buttons one for pic and other for video) rather than switching between the two and waiting a hot second or 2. I'm wondering if the Sense 4.0 camera can be ported to the Shift though, as we've seen the Shift can handle newer mods, I'm just not sure what's changed within their camera
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I doubt if they even got the camera.apk ported to the shift that it would be of any use.
All the modifications to the Sense 4.0 camera are for the special hardware chip that the One series uses called the "ImageSense" chip.
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I doubt if they even got the camera.apk ported to the shift that it would be of any use.
All the modifications to the Sense 4.0 camera are for the special hardware chip that the One series uses called the "ImageSense" chip.
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Hmm well Its in that Rom for the DoubleShot so?
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This thread is in Development because I mean to share a development idea that I had with the devs here. I don't have the knowledge or skill to work this out myself, so I'm hoping to start a discussion among devs who can do something with it.
Right. At the moment, Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROMs are all using the Sense 3.0 lockscreen - but it's still an old version of that lockscreen, ported in the early days of the HTC Sensation (by seo if I'm correct). Resizing for the lower resolution on the Desire was necessary, and you can see that clearly on the lockscreen - icons and text appear slightly "squashed", and performance is slightly choppy as well.
However, on full Sense 3.5 ROMs ported from the HTC Runnymede, the lockscreen is graphically flawless, and it's lagfree as well, probably largely due to the fact that no resizing is involved. It's just a much better lockscreen than the Sense 3.0 one found in Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids.
My question/idea is: could this properly sized Sense 3.5 lockscreen be ported from Bliss or Runnymede ROMs to work in Sense 2.1 ROMs?
I'm hoping for this to be a place for devs to discuss and hopefully work out this idea. Mods, if you still think this is in the wrong place, feel free to move.
Thanks in advance!
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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Question is whose ROM for Base?
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I suggest Rsk or Seb's ROM
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Both of which are based on Runnymede RUUs. Keep in mind that the question is to port the lockscreen from Sense 3.5, not from a single specific Sense 3.5 ROM - so the base will come from HTC, not from any custom ROM developer here.
In other words, this question is pretty much irrelevant.
Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Ok no probs. I have enough pms for porting and mods, a thread would be a good change
No promises, but ill do my best to have it done this weekend. It's not that I'm anti-sense, but I've always been on my miui builds (for at least 8 of the 11 months I've owned an android phone). Fingers crossed .
Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
His signature says he is using the Alex-V's ROM.
I haven't tried Alex-V 1.8 ROM yet, but i use InsertCoin for years now. I'd love to see it in InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well. I'll stay tuned.
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Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
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I'm on Alex-V 1.8 for cm7r2 now, the link is in my sig. I don't think there's much of a difference with other 2.1/3.0 ROMs (like InsertCoin), if any difference at all - as far as the lockscreen goes, that is. They all use different implementations of a2sd (standard, data++, ad2sdx, even int2sd), which probably needs looking into.
And take your time. It's already immensely appreciated that you're willing to look into it in the first place.
This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
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Possibly, but in any case we'd still lose the graphical imperfections of the old, resized Sense 3.0 lockscreen. In Sense 3.5, the ring is a lot bigger too - it sticks out further from the bottom, making it easier to grab and unlock. Even just graphically, it's better than the current lockscreen.
Also, nobody's ever tried this, so we'd never know if it'll be faster.
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But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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I concur. Thanks for your input!
Trust me, I know what needs doing
How hard it is to do is the question, porting apks between frameworks is fairly simple unless they are massively different and the apk is hugely dependent on it.
I had miui v4 themes working on evervolv by hand porting the code, and ported apks between frameworks before so have a fair idea what needs doing .
This thread will turn out to be highly educational then. Nice
Just fyi, due to a couple of things taking longer than I thought yesterday, will most likely get around to looking at this on Wednesday. I'll post when I have anything useful.
Alright. No worries, I've got plenty of revision to kill time until then.
Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Not without modifying it, and no, I have no plans to look at anything else sense related, sorry.
Please stay on topic.
Been trying to get Alex-Vs rom since yesterday, and download is stuck at 98% and has been disconnecting constantly. PITA and I'm tired so hopefully it'll finish tomorrow and I can have a look.
I fell in love with Sense 3 on my Evo 3D, but I think I'm over it now. I'm tired of the behemoth ROM downloads, etc.
However, I am in love with this fast focus, pic in video, etc camera that this One S has stock. What can I do ROM wise to cut the fat but keep the amazing camera? I want CM10, but the camera sucks. I understand that the camera is probably something sense framework related isn't it?
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I fell in love with Sense 3 on my Evo 3D, but I think I'm over it now. I'm tired of the behemoth ROM downloads, etc.
However, I am in love with this fast focus, pic in video, etc camera that this One S has stock. What can I do ROM wise to cut the fat but keep the amazing camera? I want CM10, but the camera sucks. I understand that the camera is probably something sense framework related isn't it?
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Look at the Sense-based ROMs under the development forum. You won't find anything like it in AOSP/AOKP.
Try sense based miui (there are 2 different ones, make sure you get sense based). Personally not a miui user, but sounds like what you may be looking for.
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Try sense based miui (there are 2 different ones, make sure you get sense based). Personally not a miui user, but sounds like what you may be looking for.
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I'll try that out, normally I wouldn't but I'm intrigued on this phone. I can't imagine how sense would mesh with that.
I'm blown away by this camera though. Not to veer the thread off too far but anyone know how to do the burst mode? I found something about limit to 20 shots per second or something like that, but I can't get it to burst
Just keep holding the shutter button down and it will start bursting until you left you finger or reach the limit
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Ahh good , I was expecting mode
Found a great solution to my problem I got Viper One S ROM and unchecked Sense. Kept the lock Ring and the awesome camera
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Found a great solution to my problem I got Viper One S ROM and unchecked Sense. Kept the lock Ring and the awesome camera
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Yeah I was running that for a while. Still doesn't match the speed & smoothness of JB/CM10 (IMO) but true it does give you perks from both. Good news is we get official JB within the next month, so won't have to compromise much longer :victory:
So when official One S JB comes out then cyanogenmod can have the stock camera? I've been running Trickdroid but there's no updates on that and my phone starts to run like crap after a couple weeks. Just put CM10 Back on today, and forgot no good camera.
cm10 camera can do burst mode, but it's very clunky and in the menu.
Firstly before you all going bashing me about "WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS INSTEAD OF ASKING US?", my reply is I have tried and no dice, but I will keep trying.
Hey guys,
So many people are asking about an AOSP rom or pseudo-AOSP rom with a Sense camera. Now if you were like me and upgraded from the sensation, then you would remember HyperNonSense by Splder. For those who don't: It's a sense based rom with everything sense removed except libs and stuff, so yay sense camera with aosp things!
I was hoping that we could get something similar. Maybe ask Splder for help if needed. Just throwing it out there...
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1581619
Regards!
AW: (Suggestion) AOSP thats sense based
I think that's exactly what you get if you install viper without sense.
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I think that's exactly what you get if you install viper without sense.
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Are you sure? When I tried that, all I got was a Sense ROM with Nova Launcher.
Maybe it has changed since then, but I am happy with my AOSP ROM
it would be necessary to add aosp apps (don´t know if this is possible) to the sense base, also the notification bar... Animations, fonts, lockscreens and these things would be easy to port.
It would be really nice to have the aosp look speed and smoothness on a sense base, not just for the camera but also for the better optimized base than cm10/10.1
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it would be necessary to add aosp apps (don´t know if this is possible) to the sense base, also the notification bar... Animations, fonts, lockscreens and these things would be easy to port.
It would be really nice to have the aosp look speed and smoothness on a sense base, not just for the camera but also for the better optimized base than cm10/10.1
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Agreed with this, Sense is good for it's integration with HTC hardware and the fact that it integrates functionality from a number of different apps into its ROM (widgets, notes app, etc.) but the memory usage and bloat is annoying. Sure getting a deodexed Sense ROM fixes that but the purity of AOSP along with the hardware/software support for the camera would be excellent!
Can someone explain to me what the big difference is with the Sense camera and the Stock JB one? My pictures are excellent with my ROM and I didn't see a big drop off with the features of the stock camera so what gives?
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Can someone explain to me what the big difference is with the Sense camera and the Stock JB one? My pictures are excellent with my ROM and I didn't see a big drop off with the features of the stock camera so what gives?
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I don't know about you, but If I put pictures side by side (one taken from sense, other from aosp) there is a definite drop in quality and steadyness. It's not one of those placebo effects or bias towards sense, proofs just there.
Once I've done some minor tweaks(Bravia) my pictures side by side look relatively similar. I'll take a slight drop off in the camera since AOSP takes a diarrhea dump on Sense in terms of speed
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Hi Alaq, I was exactly in your situation when I upgraded from HTC Sensation to HTC One S. The closest ROM I could find is Jellybean NonSense by $droyd$. It's not really as comprehensively AOSP as HyperSense on Sensation, but it's pretty much the only other One S ROM that's kind of AOSP with Sense camera. I don't think the ROM will be getting updates anymore, which is why I recently switched to ViperROM S and a custom launcher for the time being.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072944
made ya look!
bought an m8. eagerly awaiting cyanogenmod.
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made ya look!
bought an m8. eagerly awaiting cyanogenmod.
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Ugghhhhhh
Who is working on Cm anyways?
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Ugghhhhhh
Who is working on Cm anyways?
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"Marketed as The New HTC One, this device (m8) is the successor to the m7. H8rift, toastcfh, deck, invisiblek and other CM maintainers have already taken up the challenge to bringing CM to this device. No builds yet to share, but we will keep you updated as things progress."
from http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/this-week-in-cm-apr-12-2014
invisblek and the others are the bomb, so i have high expectations and rightly so.
(is it odd that the first thing i did was s-off before even logging into google and such)
Why no love for Sense!?
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Why no love for Sense!?
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I'mwith you,enjoying sense, but I'll never turndown more development , thanks to the cm crew
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Why no love for Sense!?
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So I don't mind sense. But I downloaded a stock ish Rom yesterday and it was 1.2 GB
That's 1 Gb more than cm of stuff I don't use. I like very lean roms that occupy less space and are highly performant.
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Sense is awesome. Much more functionality and customization than AOSP although I sometimes do have the urge of running minimalistic AOSP.
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Cm
I had cm on Verizon galaxy nexus! I started getting upset at the time it took to get to stable builds.
I doubt AOSP will be able to make the Duo Camera work. So, no special effects like focusing on different parts and other junk like that.
Might as well stick with Sense 6. It seems to be working very well so far.
surprisingly enough i dont mind sense...not the case with that steaming load Samsung calls Touchwiz. I would like to get back to aosp roms but i want the sense camera or one that can utilize the dual camera functions. That wont be long off...htc release the api for the dual camera so there will be options soon enough
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I doubt AOSP will be able to make the Duo Camera work. So, no special effects like focusing on different parts and other junk like that.
Might as well stick with Sense 6. It seems to be working very well so far.
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HTC wants 3rd party development on the camera. They released an SDK. That may help.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-releases-dual-lens-sdk-for-the-htc-one-m8-2014/
My issues with sense revolves around the lockscreen and how it handles notification sounds.
With sense in place dashclock, which I prefer, I can't replace the stock lockscreen. Even using AOSP lock screen on Viper is not optimal since my tasker script does not allow me to situationally disable/reenable the lock screen.
There seems to be an issue on how sense handles notifications. I use a third party app to give me situational sound profiles, similar to what is offered in CM. When using it with sense I don't get reliable results. The built in sound profiles in sense aren't flexible enough.
Maybe I've just been using AOSP too long but I find sense too restrictive for how I use my phone.
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surprisingly enough i dont mind sense...not the case with that steaming load Samsung calls Touchwiz. I would like to get back to aosp roms but i want the sense camera or one that can utilize the dual camera functions. That wont be long off...htc release the api for the dual camera so there will be options soon enough
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can the gpe on the international edition not utilize the dual camera functions? if it can, i don;t see why aosp roms cannot just keep the camera driver and the camera app from gpe.
sense is a million times better than the touchwiz garbage, but nothing is a little better than sense.
I'm taking a # ....
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can the gpe on the international edition not utilize the dual camera functions? if it can, i don;t see why aosp roms cannot just keep the camera driver and the camera app from gpe.
sense is a million times better than the touchwiz garbage, but nothing is a little better than sense.
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i havent tried GPE but my guess is no. GPE is straight up aosp and the dual camera software is part of sense 6...not aosp
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surprisingly enough i dont mind sense...not the case with that steaming load Samsung calls Touchwiz. I would like to get back to aosp roms but i want the sense camera or one that can utilize the dual camera functions. That wont be long off...htc release the api for the dual camera so there will be options soon enough
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I actually LIKE Sense (and completely agree about TouchWiz.) I have liked Sense back to the earliest versions but CyanogenMod has been my daily driver for a very long time. I am delighted to see Invisiblek is on the M8 project, I hope CM will be here soon and I'll be switching ROMs as I did with my Galaxy S3 and S4, running CyanogenMod until a problem shows up in a nightly and then switching back to Andybone's most excellent Bonestock ROM until CM gets fixed again. Eventually, CM became perfect (for me) on the Galaxy phones and I could stop switching and I know that's what will happen with the M8.
Gator Brah said:
i havent tried GPE but my guess is no. GPE is straight up aosp and the dual camera software is part of sense 6...not aosp
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"Frankly, it'd be silly to have extra hardware on a phone that's completely unusable, so the Google Play edition will still take advantage of the Duo Camera functionality. Predictably, the app itself is the stock Google version, but the HTC magic comes out as soon as you enter the Photos app and try editing your shots. You'll be prompted to open up "HTC Photo Edit," and you'll see a screen that looks much like what you'd find in the Sense gallery, but with fewer options: UFocus, Dimension Plus and Touch Up are the only Duo Camera-esque effects listed, which means the Foregrounder, Seasons and Copy/Paste functions didn't make the cut. (Filters, frames and tools are still hanging out on the right sidebar.) UFocus is our favorite of the Duo Camera options, so we're glad to see it there, but Dimension Plus is a useless and gimmicky feature that we just don't use very often."
from http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/08/htc-one-m8-google-play-edition/
it seems like the driver and photo editing software that is the real key behind dual cameras is on gpe so those should port over seamlessly to aosp based roms.
nabbed said:
I doubt AOSP will be able to make the Duo Camera work. So, no special effects like focusing on different parts and other junk like that.
Might as well stick with Sense 6. It seems to be working very well so far.
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actually, they've opened up the API for the cam and the GPE edition uses it, so there IS hope..
Gator Brah said:
i havent tried GPE but my guess is no. GPE is straight up aosp and the dual camera software is part of sense 6...not aosp
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so you're saying they built a phone with hardware not utilized by the software?
i dont see a reason for the dual camera not to work on the GPE edition.
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"Frankly, it'd be silly to have extra hardware on a phone that's completely unusable, so the Google Play edition will still take advantage of the Duo Camera functionality. Predictably, the app itself is the stock Google version, but the HTC magic comes out as soon as you enter the Photos app and try editing your shots. You'll be prompted to open up "HTC Photo Edit," and you'll see a screen that looks much like what you'd find in the Sense gallery, but with fewer options: UFocus, Dimension Plus and Touch Up are the only Duo Camera-esque effects listed, which means the Foregrounder, Seasons and Copy/Paste functions didn't make the cut. (Filters, frames and tools are still hanging out on the right sidebar.) UFocus is our favorite of the Duo Camera options, so we're glad to see it there, but Dimension Plus is a useless and gimmicky feature that we just don't use very often."
from http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/08/htc-one-m8-google-play-edition/
it seems like the driver and photo editing software that is the real key behind dual cameras is on gpe so those should port over seamlessly to aosp based roms.
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good info!
Abe21599 said:
so you're saying they built a phone with hardware not utilized by the software?
i dont see a reason for the dual camera not to work on the GPE edition.
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See quoted post above yours. Give it time young grasshopper... Development will happen for the dual camera
I'm dying for some aosp. Gpe is nice but I'm waiting for the can to be more stable
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