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[ROM] The Droid Demos Community ROM - YOU Decide How its Built!

Hey XDA
Not quite finding exactly what you want in your EVO 4G ROM? Want a little more or a little less? Want to just feel like you’re doing something? Get ready for The Droid Demos Community EVO 4G ROM! Over the course of the next few weeks, we’ll be taking suggestions on what YOU want in your ROM. Some of the things we want you to choose are:
What ROM to base off of
AOSP or Sense
Apps to include
Theme of the ROM
Default ringtones, notification sounds, boot animations
And MORE!
So click the link below and leave a comment with what you'd like to see. Don’t limit yourself to the items listed here. If there’s anything you want included or done to the ROM, speak up!
Feel free to discuss in this thread, but please comment with your suggestions at the post linked below.After enough feedback is given, we’ll start polls including all the different aspects. The winning choices will decide how to develop this ROM! So get cracking!
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Help the development of the communities ROM!
P.S. If you want to help out with its development, shoot me a PM!

I'd like to see another truly aosp rom there's loads of sense roms out there

This should really be interesting, cant wait.

I like manups456 transparent widgets and riptide9 clear status bar and clear lockscreen bar.
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bcnice20 said:
I'd like to see another truly aosp rom there's loads of sense roms out there
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1+ to that.. Its not to many AOSP devs out there.. i would like to see a truly AOSP rom. not just parts of sense remove and call it "senseless"

bcnice20 said:
I'd like to see another truly aosp rom there's loads of sense roms out there
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I was about to say this.

a AOSP rom with 4g in it...that would the ultimate rom for sure

60FPS hack

Definitely a aosp Rom
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Stock AOSP ROM with working 4G and HDMI. Only pre-installed with the basic apps.

A Rom that connects me to Jesus...
I agree with most, if possible a stable aosp birth with a good batt for life!
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An AOSP rom. And when I say that, I know that there are some things that are proprietary to get some things working, and that would be fine by me.
So an CTAOSP rom
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orpheostelos said:
a AOSP rom with 4g in it...that would the ultimate rom for sure
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+1 This would be awesome!!!

I'd like to actually keep all the original apps on this, I use some of them, and make it fast and good battery
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Definetly an AOSP rom with all working stock functions, 4g, HDMI, cameras.
OC'able kernel with FPS Fix and themed, (ManUp is awesome)
It would just be real nice to get a bare bones AOSP with everything working and we can decide on the apps.

Rocklee99 said:
I'd like to actually keep all the original apps on this, I use some of them, and make it fast and good battery
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Rocklee.. what's up little one..
Thought you would ask for a Droid X Froyo Rom...
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mzaiderman said:
Definetly an AOSP rom with all working stock functions, 4g, HDMI, cameras.
OC'able kernel with FPS Fix and themed, (ManUp is awesome)
It would just be real nice to get a bare bones AOSP with everything working and we can decide on the apps.
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Bare bones so we can decide on apps, great!
AOSP with everything working, GREAT!
Themed...not so great. leave it unthemed so we can decide on a theme ourselves. Im not particularly fond of clear notification bars and lock screens myself.

I would also like an AOSP rom, hopefully as bare as possible, without any sense/htc elements.
The most important things for me are speed (response), battery life, and stability.
It should only include the essential apps, maybe with whatever apps others vote on if there is a high enough demand, with anything that is not absolutely necessary uninstallable.
It should also incorporate any upgrades/fixes that will improve stock settings, though it is understandable that most of these come from custom kernels.
I would definitely not want it to be themed. People can install themes if they want but I think it would work better for everyone if they could choose what they want on their phone.
A second post aggregating as many of the add-ons/themes/apps/fixes devs here at xda have made would also be really useful.
All in all, I am really hopeful, since there aren't many AOSP roms and there seems to be a good demand for one.

AOSP Fresh. Flipz fresh evo rom is the best. I would rather see it without sense or any htc apps except what is needed, if any, for all functions to work. I like cyanogen but it isn't fully functional on the evo. So, Fresh AOSP all stock. User can change theme etc...
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I'm not really sure why AOSP gets all the love it gets...it's just not my thing. Looks boring and cheap BUT thats just me.
I'm not a huge fan of the sense launcher or the rosie dock but the widgets can't be matched no matter how many apps you download =p
But honestly, there are plenty of nice sense based roms here...I'm not sure there is anything else that could really be done to improve on them...so an AOSP would prolly be my vote.
IMO, I would rather see more themes...nobody likes to theme the EVO it seems..

[Q] Now that I'm rooted...rom time!

Now that I'm rooted (thanks to all those involved), I want to get all decked out with a custom kernel/rom/all that. I can see that there are quite a few roms available. I don't suppose there's really anything that compares and contrasts them? Or an easy way to find them all? I tried searching for [rom] and it wasn't able to handle that.
I'm really digging Sense, and I recall seeing that there was a rom (maybe more than one?) that had Sense 3.0?

All the ROMs are listed in the development section.. Take a look at this thread for some good ROM recommendations http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256017
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flu13 said:
Now that I'm rooted (thanks to all those involved), I want to get all decked out with a custom kernel/rom/all that. I can see that there are quite a few roms available. I don't suppose there's really anything that compares and contrasts them? Or an easy way to find them all? I tried searching for [rom] and it wasn't able to handle that.
I'm really digging Sense, and I recall seeing that there was a rom (maybe more than one?) that had Sense 3.0?
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We do have a full pure 3.0 ROM that was a wip but the dev got like hella busy working 80+ hours a week so it took a backseat so he could relax, but there are also modded sense 2.1 ROMS depending on what your looking for the 2 we have both have Sense 3 elements but are not full sense 3, one of them is mikshifted-g(some sense 3 elements) and the other is supreme sense (3.0 rosie and widgets)both of which have their own look and feel but are the same base ROM
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strapped365 said:
one of them is mikshifted-g(some sense 3 elements) and the other is supreme sense (3.0 rosie and widgets)both of which have their own look and feel
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Any chance you could expand on this? I don't even know what's different in Sense 3, I just know that 3 is higher than 2.1, so it has to be better, right? I'm going to try to find threads on these roms and read up on them, but any comparison you can give from actual experience or working knowledge would be appreciated.

flu13 said:
Any chance you could expand on this? I don't even know what's different in Sense 3, I just know that 3 is higher than 2.1, so it has to be better, right? I'm going to try to find threads on these roms and read up on them, but any comparison you can give from actual experience or working knowledge would be appreciated.
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MikshiftedG- has Sense 3.0 messaging,lockcreen,the newest market that let's you plus1 things, has lots of extra quick settings,music widget if there are more ill be back to edit this post
Supreme Sense- is based off mikshifted G so it has the same market and all the quick settings and has Sense 3.0 messaging, weather,music,twitter3d,friendstream3d,lockscreen,Rosie(carousel),people widget 3d, message widget 3d, bookmark3d,htcclock3dwidget, if there is more i remember ill edit this too its early and i was up late making some changes lol anyways mikshifted/supreme offer up the most features out of our sense based ROMS, and they have better perfomance because they are odex and not deodex
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Fantastic, thanks.

[REQ][DEV]Port Sense 3.5 lockscreen to Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROMs

This thread is in Development because I mean to share a development idea that I had with the devs here. I don't have the knowledge or skill to work this out myself, so I'm hoping to start a discussion among devs who can do something with it.
Right. At the moment, Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROMs are all using the Sense 3.0 lockscreen - but it's still an old version of that lockscreen, ported in the early days of the HTC Sensation (by seo if I'm correct). Resizing for the lower resolution on the Desire was necessary, and you can see that clearly on the lockscreen - icons and text appear slightly "squashed", and performance is slightly choppy as well.
However, on full Sense 3.5 ROMs ported from the HTC Runnymede, the lockscreen is graphically flawless, and it's lagfree as well, probably largely due to the fact that no resizing is involved. It's just a much better lockscreen than the Sense 3.0 one found in Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids.
My question/idea is: could this properly sized Sense 3.5 lockscreen be ported from Bliss or Runnymede ROMs to work in Sense 2.1 ROMs?
I'm hoping for this to be a place for devs to discuss and hopefully work out this idea. Mods, if you still think this is in the wrong place, feel free to move.
Thanks in advance!

Question is whose ROM for Base?
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rzgomba said:
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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I suggest Rsk or Seb's ROM
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Both of which are based on Runnymede RUUs. Keep in mind that the question is to port the lockscreen from Sense 3.5, not from a single specific Sense 3.5 ROM - so the base will come from HTC, not from any custom ROM developer here.
In other words, this question is pretty much irrelevant.

Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.

ZeGuitarist said:
Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.

lenny_kano said:
Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!

ZeGuitarist said:
Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Ok no probs. I have enough pms for porting and mods, a thread would be a good change
No promises, but ill do my best to have it done this weekend. It's not that I'm anti-sense, but I've always been on my miui builds (for at least 8 of the 11 months I've owned an android phone). Fingers crossed .

Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.

His signature says he is using the Alex-V's ROM.
I haven't tried Alex-V 1.8 ROM yet, but i use InsertCoin for years now. I'd love to see it in InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well. I'll stay tuned.

lenny_kano said:
Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
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I'm on Alex-V 1.8 for cm7r2 now, the link is in my sig. I don't think there's much of a difference with other 2.1/3.0 ROMs (like InsertCoin), if any difference at all - as far as the lockscreen goes, that is. They all use different implementations of a2sd (standard, data++, ad2sdx, even int2sd), which probably needs looking into.
And take your time. It's already immensely appreciated that you're willing to look into it in the first place.

This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.

island3r said:
This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
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Possibly, but in any case we'd still lose the graphical imperfections of the old, resized Sense 3.0 lockscreen. In Sense 3.5, the ring is a lot bigger too - it sticks out further from the bottom, making it easier to grab and unlock. Even just graphically, it's better than the current lockscreen.
Also, nobody's ever tried this, so we'd never know if it'll be faster.
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But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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I concur. Thanks for your input!

Trust me, I know what needs doing
How hard it is to do is the question, porting apks between frameworks is fairly simple unless they are massively different and the apk is hugely dependent on it.
I had miui v4 themes working on evervolv by hand porting the code, and ported apks between frameworks before so have a fair idea what needs doing .

This thread will turn out to be highly educational then. Nice

Just fyi, due to a couple of things taking longer than I thought yesterday, will most likely get around to looking at this on Wednesday. I'll post when I have anything useful.

Alright. No worries, I've got plenty of revision to kill time until then.

Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?

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Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Not without modifying it, and no, I have no plans to look at anything else sense related, sorry.
Please stay on topic.

Been trying to get Alex-Vs rom since yesterday, and download is stuck at 98% and has been disconnecting constantly. PITA and I'm tired so hopefully it'll finish tomorrow and I can have a look.

PSA: The Sense Camera and AOSP-based ROMs

I just wanted to put this out there since people seem to be asking about it time after time.
I enjoy the Sense camera. It is probably my favourite feature of Sense. I also do not like the Camera in AOSP ROMs. It is one of my most hated features of AOSP. But, we cannot at this point have the Sense Camera in AOSP ROMs. I will explain why below.
In the Sense Camera's APK (Package File) the Sense Camera, much like other applications, uses APIs which reference specific parts of the ROM its running. For example, in Holo-looking apps, all the stuff drawn for the most part is not coded into there using images. Instead, it references the image files and layouts from the framework of ICS ROMs (which is also why Holo apps will probably never work on GB either).
This is very similar to the situation that the Sense camera on AOSP is in. Sense is not just a "skin" sitting atop Android. It is integrated directly into the framework of the ROM. It contains APIs that are not usually present in AOSP ROMs. Because of this, it is impossible currently to run the Sense camera in the AOSP environment. However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
If you want the Sense Camera, then use a Sense based ROM. You will most probably never be able to run the Sense camera on AOSP ROMs.
For now, in AOSP I am using "UCam" from the market. It has a bunch of the features from the Sense camera that I enjoy.

Thx rohan. I appreciate all your work. I have aokp as a nandroid right now on my phone but am back on cleanrom just because of the camera. The rest of the rom is amazing. I will give ucam a shot.
Does video work with it?
Nm just restored. Can't connect to camera error with video.
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rohan32 said:
I just wanted to put this out there since people seem to be asking about it time after time.
I enjoy the Sense camera. It is probably my favourite feature of Sense. I also do not like the Camera in AOSP ROMs. It is one of my most hated features of AOSP. But, we cannot at this point have the Sense Camera in AOSP ROMs. I will explain why below.
In the Sense Camera's APK (Package File) the Sense Camera, much like other applications, uses APIs which reference specific parts of the ROM its running. For example, in Holo-looking apps, all the stuff drawn for the most part is not coded into there using images. Instead, it references the image files and layouts from the framework of ICS ROMs (which is also why Holo apps will probably never work on GB either).
This is very similar to the situation that the Sense camera on AOSP is in. Sense is not just a "skin" sitting atop Android. It is integrated directly into the framework of the ROM. It contains APIs that are not usually present in AOSP ROMs. Because of this, it is impossible currently to run the Sense camera in the AOSP environment. However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
If you want the Sense Camera, then use a Sense based ROM. You will most probably never be able to run the Sense camera on AOSP ROMs.
For now, in AOSP I am using "UCam" from the market. It has a bunch of the features from the Sense camera that I enjoy.
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Thanks for posting this. As a huge fan of the Sense camera app, it's disappointing to read, but it's also good to know the technical details behind the limitations.

Not to mention proprietary drivers for the image sense chip. You won't get those either.
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I'm in love with Nocturnal's Senseless ROM at the moment.
Which, while I'm sure is built upon sense, has a nearly complete AOSP look and feel....and has the awesome sense camera UI.
A worthy compromise?

I'm so glad that this thread exists. I assumed that this was the reason that I hadn't seen the Sense camera ported to any AOSP ROM and having it confirmed just puts my mind at ease. Now I don't need to keep hunting and waiting. I've been trying out UCam and it's been working pretty great. I still miss the tight integration with the image chip and can notice a difference between the Sense camera and other apps, but I figure it's just a compromise I have to make to get all the best features of custom ROMs.

I would love to see this exist! If someone can point me in the direction of where to learn I'm sure I could try!

rohan32 said:
However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
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Thanks for the great explanation.
You used to be around the Xoom forums when it was first released, right? That smali editing sounds like what BRD did to give us those amazing Tiamat ROMs early on.

Would a bounty thread help? I'll start it off with $50!
Billy

Thanks
Thanks rohan for the detailed explanation.

We just need this guy to make a gingerMODesk rom for the One X. Basically the most AOSPed ROM you can get without the lack of the nice features from the SGS2 Touchwisz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220283

robstunner said:
We just need this guy to make a gingerMODesk rom for the One X. Basically the most AOSPed ROM you can get without the lack of the nice features from the SGS2 Touchwisz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220283
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Thats basically one of the cleanROMs that scott makes (i forget what its called... developer mode? something)

what other camera app uses the image sense chip in our HOX

RE: Rohan
Hey Rohan, First thanks for all the work you are doing.
I meant no disrespect when I expressed my concerns. I was just curious if this could be done. I understand the situation much better now, and thanks for the further clarification.
Keep up the good work.

Honestly not having the Sense camera is whats holding me back from flashing other roms, you really never know how good it is till you use other rom cameras.
I take a lot of pics (instagram junkie) and when I compare pic quality its almost night and day. There are some great - teriffic roms out, but the sense camera is just that good.

Raadius said:
Honestly not having the Sense camera is whats holding me back from flashing other roms, you really never know how good it is till you use other rom cameras.
I take a lot of pics (instagram junkie) and when I compare pic quality its almost night and day. There are some great - teriffic roms out, but the sense camera is just that good.
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We had a discussion about this over in the AOKP thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29914879&postcount=1417
Long story short - a lot of what makes the Sense camera better is the fact it automatically sharpens the image and does a bit of noise reduction.

In MIUI V5 they use sense camera, and I dont think MIUI is based on sense framework. Is it? If not how have they done it?

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In MIUI V5 they use sense camera, and I dont think MIUI is based on sense framework. Is it? If not how have they done it?
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But it is sense based
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Honestly, the only thing I really am missing from Sense camera is slow-motion. I want that on my N5 so bad. I used it a lot actually.

My HOXl for your Nexus?
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Sense with vanilla flair

Hi,
I have a little question.
Sense is not really bad, but there are two major things that looks really better in vanilla Android (or CM10 that I'm using) than in Sense.
The lockscreen in Sense is not my favourite and really ugly is the call screen (the original vanilla Android is really beautiful).
So my question, is there a way, just to replace those 2 features? Because stock Android with sense worked much better on my OneS.

Piccolo1986 said:
Hi,
I have a little question.
Sense is not really bad, but there are two major things that looks really better in vanilla Android (or CM10 that I'm using) than in Sense.
The lockscreen in Sense is not my favourite and really ugly is the call screen (the original vanilla Android is really beautiful).
So my question, is there a way, just to replace those 2 features? Because stock Android with sense worked much better on my OneS.
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Yea...take a Sense ROM, and remove as much Sense as possible without breaking the system.
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troby86 said:
Yea...take a Sense ROM, and remove as much Sense as possible without breaking the system.
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I got something for ya'. Give me 15 minutes, and I'll post the link.

troby86 said:
I got something for ya'. Give me 15 minutes, and I'll post the link.
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It's posted in the Dev section "United Vanilla Project"

Piccolo1986 said:
Hi,
I have a little question.
Sense is not really bad, but there are two major things that looks really better in vanilla Android (or CM10 that I'm using) than in Sense.
The lockscreen in Sense is not my favourite and really ugly is the call screen (the original vanilla Android is really beautiful).
So my question, is there a way, just to replace those 2 features? Because stock Android with sense worked much better on my OneS.
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If you look in system/app/ you'll find HtcLockScreen.apk, remove this file as root and you will revert to the vanilla android stock screen (I have personally done this on 1.7.1 Stock rooted mod), perhaps a similar technique will work with the call screen (try at your own risk)
Also troby86 when I tried installing your United Vanilla Rom I was unable to get the FM radio to start, since I'm new I can't post about ti in the development thread...