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sabianadmin said:
Hey all, im thinking of putting together a sense rom (minus the bloat obv) based on CM5, has this already been done? is there any problems you guys can see with doing it?
thanks for the advice
All the best
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-Wrong section
-There are plenty of Sense-like Themes for cm5. Add Facebook, Twitter, Some Sense clock widget, Skinned ADW.Launcher/Launcher pro, et voilà.
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It's very hard, if not impossible, to implent the Sense apps into AOSP ROMs.
Its not the wrong section im trying to gauge if i should bother developing a custom android rom. And that didn't really answer my question. Is it possible to bring sense and all it required apks and libraries over to CM5, if this is the wrong section could a moderator move me to the right one
Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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It takes waaay too much work, believe me.
Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
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Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
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Great Idea! how about GSense
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maxisma said:
You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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domex2k said:
How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Im using bits of the android 2.1 update for the european HTC Hero but if i get good reason i will be using bits of other roms (e.g droid eris which is a hero effectively)
sabianadmin said:
Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
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Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
domex2k said:
Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
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Oh right! yep that will be there
I have always liked sense, but have never liked how 'sluggish' it runs in comparison to other android roms since it comes with some extra baggage i.e. Rosie. But if you can make this happen, I'll be quite excited and will probably try it out..so...all the best!
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Oh right! yep that will be there
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Bookmarking this thread for sure
UberMario said:
Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Does Camera work on KingKlick's DroidEris2G1?
allow me to comment: if you take cm5 and replace the apk's and frameworks, you will run into several problems:
1. it'll be too big for g1, without using mtd mods...
2. you'll essentially end up pushing everything from a sense rom into different folders (bin, lib, etc) in order to even get stuff working
3. it'll basically turn into a sense rom with a cm kernel... which already exists. LOL
4. you'll have to learn smali, which is confusing as you-know-what
HAVE FUN!!!
Hey guys long time since I've been here since moved on to an iPhone 4 however played on a Desire S and am seriously tempted.
I was just wondering because my only quibble is Sense UI, I hate it!
I just prefer stock android.
Is there a way to get rid of Sense UI or possibly a ROM that is just Gingerbread on it's own no custom UI on the top that I could flash the phone with ?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
you can try ADW launcher or there is a CM7 port which has everything other than bluetooth working you can flash that
Wingzer said:
Hey guys long time since I've been here since moved on to an iPhone 4 however played on a Desire S and am seriously tempted.
I was just wondering because my only quibble is Sense UI, I hate it!
I just prefer stock android.
Is there a way to get rid of Sense UI or possibly a ROM that is just Gingerbread on it's own no custom UI on the top that I could flash the phone with ?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
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Check out the threads in the development forum
The CM7 or MIUI roms are probably what your after.
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Literally just want stock android 2.3 like you get on the Nexus S.
Not sure if it is possible though.
Wingzer said:
Literally just want stock android 2.3 like you get on the Nexus S.
Not sure if it is possible though.
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I'm tempted to say why buy a htc
Device if you dislike sense so much, as you can probably tell already I personally love it
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ben_pyett said:
I'm tempted to say why buy a htc
Device if you dislike sense so much, as you can probably tell already I personally love it
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The construction of the phone and the screen, the size and just the device.
I just like it.
All Samsung phones are just plastic slabs, HTC seam to be the only quality phone maker at the moment.
Desire S with stock Gingerbread like the Nexus One or S would be perfect for me.
Just flash cm7 from the development section, that's essentially stock.
hookguy said:
Just flash cm7 from the development section, that's essentially stock.
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Used it before was painfully slow and ate battery like nothing on my Nexus S.
Wingzer said:
Used it before was painfully slow and ate battery like nothing on my Nexus S.
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i thought cm7 was faster than stock & had better battery consumption
i have never used official cm7 before (have used some ports) so i maybe misguided
kartkk said:
i thought cm7 was faster than stock & had better battery consumption
i have never used official cm7 before (have used some ports) so i maybe misguided
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I've tried the current CM7 port and its certainly faster than stock and even faster than LBC.....I believe that they're still looking into improving the battery issues....but great progress is being made with the rom in a very short amount of time....so watch it ....
To think that Sense is the best overlay UI on any Android device not to mention Sense 3.0 that I have right now with Virtuous rom. Why hate it?
Or you could just flash TouchWiz UI on DesireS, though I haven't tried it.
I just want to know if it's possible to have a Desire S without Sense UI ?
Its possible, and someone will make it eventually, its my plan after finishing the cyanogen port
superkid said:
Its possible, and someone will make it eventually, its my plan after finishing the cyanogen port
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Good to hear man!
I'm still on the fence on the Desire S, time will tell.
why don't you consider the incredible s? It seems to have a lot more support. Not that i wouldn't want you to get the desire s
Well, the incredible s is a great phone.. but cost more money and is bigger
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Well, the incredible s is a great phone.. but cost more money and is bigger
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& the desire S has unibody aluminium & feels nicer to hold
Yeah pretty much I'm not too fussed for a 4" screen it's ok as long as the resolution is high enough.
But yeah the construction and feel of the phone is a real strong point for me.
So i've just come from a GS2 to a Sensation XE and i'm adjusting back to the sense way of life(i used to have a Desire).
Unfortunately i'm not adjusting too well is there a way to disable sense totally to use a launcher as i'm not to keen on rooting it just yet.
Darkwun said:
So i've just come from a GS2 to a Sensation XE and i'm adjusting back to the sense way of life(i used to have a Desire).
Unfortunately i'm not adjusting too well is there a way to disable sense totally to use a launcher as i'm not to keen on rooting it just yet.
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Just download which ever launcher you choose then download an app called home switcher. It will allow you to easily enable the launcher app and set it up as your defeault launcher.
Darkwun said:
So i've just come from a GS2 to a Sensation XE and i'm adjusting back to the sense way of life(i used to have a Desire).
Unfortunately i'm not adjusting too well is there a way to disable sense totally to use a launcher as i'm not to keen on rooting it just yet.
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Sense is not just a launcher, so you can't just disable it. You can put a launcher over Sense though.
But I would suggest putting a custom ROM and removing all the annoying parts of Sense, while keeping the good ones. No-sense script from Revolution HD does that quite well
hmm looks like i'm gonna have to read up on rooting then go for it.
Can anyone suggest any stable highly rated ROMs? Between reading up on how to root and custom ROMs available my head is starting to hurt
TIA
You don't like sense so I recommend Cyanogenmod.. It's stable and fast. I use MIUI and love it but there is some parts not fully working yet.
CM is for you if you want 100% of Sense removed. But if you want a bit more "stock" experience, try Revolution HD 4.X with no-sense.
Heck, try both, or more, you'll learn a lot and figure out what you really like. It's actually quite simple once you get the basics
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You don't like sense so I recommend Cyanogenmod.. It's stable and fast. I use MIUI and love it but there is some parts not fully working yet.
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i was reading about the Cyanogenmod and it's looking like the front runner but i'm sure it's only at alpha stage or am i'm looking in the wrong place?
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i was reading about the Cyanogenmod and it's looking like the front runner but i'm sure it's only at alpha stage or am i'm looking in the wrong place?
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I got it on my phone and its very stable!
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I got it on my phone and its very stable!
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Launcher Pro seems to work very fine. i suggest you give it a go
Definitely go with CM7. It's the best ROM available.
This thread is in Development because I mean to share a development idea that I had with the devs here. I don't have the knowledge or skill to work this out myself, so I'm hoping to start a discussion among devs who can do something with it.
Right. At the moment, Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROMs are all using the Sense 3.0 lockscreen - but it's still an old version of that lockscreen, ported in the early days of the HTC Sensation (by seo if I'm correct). Resizing for the lower resolution on the Desire was necessary, and you can see that clearly on the lockscreen - icons and text appear slightly "squashed", and performance is slightly choppy as well.
However, on full Sense 3.5 ROMs ported from the HTC Runnymede, the lockscreen is graphically flawless, and it's lagfree as well, probably largely due to the fact that no resizing is involved. It's just a much better lockscreen than the Sense 3.0 one found in Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids.
My question/idea is: could this properly sized Sense 3.5 lockscreen be ported from Bliss or Runnymede ROMs to work in Sense 2.1 ROMs?
I'm hoping for this to be a place for devs to discuss and hopefully work out this idea. Mods, if you still think this is in the wrong place, feel free to move.
Thanks in advance!
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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rzgomba said:
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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I suggest Rsk or Seb's ROM
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Both of which are based on Runnymede RUUs. Keep in mind that the question is to port the lockscreen from Sense 3.5, not from a single specific Sense 3.5 ROM - so the base will come from HTC, not from any custom ROM developer here.
In other words, this question is pretty much irrelevant.
Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
lenny_kano said:
Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Ok no probs. I have enough pms for porting and mods, a thread would be a good change
No promises, but ill do my best to have it done this weekend. It's not that I'm anti-sense, but I've always been on my miui builds (for at least 8 of the 11 months I've owned an android phone). Fingers crossed .
Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
His signature says he is using the Alex-V's ROM.
I haven't tried Alex-V 1.8 ROM yet, but i use InsertCoin for years now. I'd love to see it in InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well. I'll stay tuned.
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Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
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I'm on Alex-V 1.8 for cm7r2 now, the link is in my sig. I don't think there's much of a difference with other 2.1/3.0 ROMs (like InsertCoin), if any difference at all - as far as the lockscreen goes, that is. They all use different implementations of a2sd (standard, data++, ad2sdx, even int2sd), which probably needs looking into.
And take your time. It's already immensely appreciated that you're willing to look into it in the first place.
This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
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Possibly, but in any case we'd still lose the graphical imperfections of the old, resized Sense 3.0 lockscreen. In Sense 3.5, the ring is a lot bigger too - it sticks out further from the bottom, making it easier to grab and unlock. Even just graphically, it's better than the current lockscreen.
Also, nobody's ever tried this, so we'd never know if it'll be faster.
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But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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I concur. Thanks for your input!
Trust me, I know what needs doing
How hard it is to do is the question, porting apks between frameworks is fairly simple unless they are massively different and the apk is hugely dependent on it.
I had miui v4 themes working on evervolv by hand porting the code, and ported apks between frameworks before so have a fair idea what needs doing .
This thread will turn out to be highly educational then. Nice
Just fyi, due to a couple of things taking longer than I thought yesterday, will most likely get around to looking at this on Wednesday. I'll post when I have anything useful.
Alright. No worries, I've got plenty of revision to kill time until then.
Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Not without modifying it, and no, I have no plans to look at anything else sense related, sorry.
Please stay on topic.
Been trying to get Alex-Vs rom since yesterday, and download is stuck at 98% and has been disconnecting constantly. PITA and I'm tired so hopefully it'll finish tomorrow and I can have a look.
Firstly before you all going bashing me about "WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS INSTEAD OF ASKING US?", my reply is I have tried and no dice, but I will keep trying.
Hey guys,
So many people are asking about an AOSP rom or pseudo-AOSP rom with a Sense camera. Now if you were like me and upgraded from the sensation, then you would remember HyperNonSense by Splder. For those who don't: It's a sense based rom with everything sense removed except libs and stuff, so yay sense camera with aosp things!
I was hoping that we could get something similar. Maybe ask Splder for help if needed. Just throwing it out there...
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1581619
Regards!
AW: (Suggestion) AOSP thats sense based
I think that's exactly what you get if you install viper without sense.
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slainbybeats said:
I think that's exactly what you get if you install viper without sense.
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Are you sure? When I tried that, all I got was a Sense ROM with Nova Launcher.
Maybe it has changed since then, but I am happy with my AOSP ROM
it would be necessary to add aosp apps (don´t know if this is possible) to the sense base, also the notification bar... Animations, fonts, lockscreens and these things would be easy to port.
It would be really nice to have the aosp look speed and smoothness on a sense base, not just for the camera but also for the better optimized base than cm10/10.1
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it would be necessary to add aosp apps (don´t know if this is possible) to the sense base, also the notification bar... Animations, fonts, lockscreens and these things would be easy to port.
It would be really nice to have the aosp look speed and smoothness on a sense base, not just for the camera but also for the better optimized base than cm10/10.1
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Agreed with this, Sense is good for it's integration with HTC hardware and the fact that it integrates functionality from a number of different apps into its ROM (widgets, notes app, etc.) but the memory usage and bloat is annoying. Sure getting a deodexed Sense ROM fixes that but the purity of AOSP along with the hardware/software support for the camera would be excellent!
Can someone explain to me what the big difference is with the Sense camera and the Stock JB one? My pictures are excellent with my ROM and I didn't see a big drop off with the features of the stock camera so what gives?
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Can someone explain to me what the big difference is with the Sense camera and the Stock JB one? My pictures are excellent with my ROM and I didn't see a big drop off with the features of the stock camera so what gives?
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I don't know about you, but If I put pictures side by side (one taken from sense, other from aosp) there is a definite drop in quality and steadyness. It's not one of those placebo effects or bias towards sense, proofs just there.
Once I've done some minor tweaks(Bravia) my pictures side by side look relatively similar. I'll take a slight drop off in the camera since AOSP takes a diarrhea dump on Sense in terms of speed
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Hi Alaq, I was exactly in your situation when I upgraded from HTC Sensation to HTC One S. The closest ROM I could find is Jellybean NonSense by $droyd$. It's not really as comprehensively AOSP as HyperSense on Sensation, but it's pretty much the only other One S ROM that's kind of AOSP with Sense camera. I don't think the ROM will be getting updates anymore, which is why I recently switched to ViperROM S and a custom launcher for the time being.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072944