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TMobile G2X dump

Hi guys, it looks like the G2X will be out at 20th April, but I know that few of you have the device now (for testing purposes, etc.).
Would you mind taking some time, and sharing with us dump of /system and boot partitions?
Thanks in advance
Update
/system uploaded by gjtorikian: http://www.filedropper.com/dump_1
boot.img uploaded by beckhamsoccerman: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13125008&postcount=110

If this is possible it would be awesome, apart tmo customizations...
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kholk said:
If this is possible it would be awesome, apart tmo customizations...
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Indeed, lets hope that someone brave will appear

Today is officialy out

I really hope the G2X Vanilla ROM does not have the same lags as the optimized O2X ROM from MoDaCo.
Well, MoDaCo Rom is much much better than original. But just try to add a widget - Why the hell does it take so long to show the whole list...? On my Desire it appears immediately...

Atomicman said:
I really hope the G2X Vanilla ROM does not have the same lags as the optimized O2X ROM from MoDaCo.
Well, MoDaCo Rom is much much better than original. But just try to add a widget - Why the hell does it take so long to show the whole list...? On my Desire it appears immediately...
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Its definitely a ROM problem,
In the past T-Mobile's ROM's have been decent, very lightweight and fast, and i would expect nothing less this time.
I still think the G2 ROM is one of the best Froyo ROM's out there
JD

@JupiterDroid: Good to see you here mate! Good you trade the HTC Desire HD in for a LG Optimus 2X, or didnt you?

I'd love to know if the G2X firmware can be run on the regular 2X. The thought of running the LG firmware isn't all that appealing
(I haven't actually received my phone yet)

I already ordered the g2x, and it should be here in a few days. If its not posted til then, ill put up a system dump. I just hope the roms between the two devices are interchangeable
Nexus S

brian6685 said:
I already ordered the g2x, and it should be here in a few days. If its not posted til then, ill put up a system dump. I just hope the roms between the two devices are interchangeable
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i ordered mine too (thanks to customer loyalty 14 day return policy)
if he doesnt post system dumps i will
and yeah the roms should be able to port over smooth... (kinda like the captivate/vibrant roms port)
just gotta change kernels/modems (i think)

its out. i have the demo in my hands. its a beast. OC here we come.. lol
it is a straight vanilla 2.3 rom. there isnt much of anything frivilous on it.

remixfa said:
its out. i have the demo in my hands. its a beast. OC here we come.. lol
it is a straight vanilla 2.3 rom. there isnt much of anything frivilous on it.
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Did you mean "Straight vanilla 2.2 rom"!! http://goo.gl/SLjFC

remixfa said:
its out. i have the demo in my hands. its a beast. OC here we come.. lol
it is a straight vanilla 2.3 rom. there isnt much of anything frivilous on it.
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Nandroid and upload please

Absolutely. I look forward to comparing it to the LG ROM and packaging it for the 2X.
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I would sure hope it's a 2.3rom.. but a true vanilla 2.2 would be lovely on a O2x!
Can't wait!
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Android™ 2.2
The G2x delivers a true Android experience. No overlays. No clutter. Just Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) the way it was meant to be. The result? A clean, crisp, seamless experience. Ahh.
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http://g2.t-mobile.com/g2x

Am hoping the ROMs will be fully interchangeable between the devices.
Otherwise, I may stay with the stock ROM for awhile - of course, after rooting, flashing recovery, and freezing unwanted apps with titanium. And maybe an overclock kernel (if compatible).
Since it should be an open device, I don't think it will be long before XDA ports a 2.3 ROM for it.

gaww said:
Am hoping the ROMs will be fully interchangeable between the devices.
Otherwise, I may stay with the stock ROM for awhile - of course, after rooting, flashing recovery, and freezing unwanted apps with titanium. And maybe an overclock kernel (if compatible).
Since it should be an open device, I don't think it will be long before XDA ports a 2.3 ROM for it.
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I'm sure CM7 will be available before LG releases some crappy 2.3 rom. ;-)

Egan said:
@JupiterDroid: Good to see you here mate! Good you trade the HTC Desire HD in for a LG Optimus 2X, or didnt you?
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@Egan
Cheers mate, good to see you too
Yeah, traded my HD in for a Nexus S, Then sold my Nexus S due to lack of Dev...
Now I'm getting the G2X sent over from the USA for me, so will be hanging with you guys for the next 8 months until my next contract upgrade Thought it would be a great option as Paul OB has a O2X and Cyanogen is getting the G2X, so when you have that combination you know the **** is gonna hit the fan
Hows things dude? Did you swap your HD for a LG O2X?
JD

remixfa said:
its out. i have the demo in my hands. its a beast. OC here we come.. lol
it is a straight vanilla 2.3 rom. there isnt much of anything frivilous on it.
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Can you do a system dump mate?
JD

AOSP for Desire S

i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
cheers

Ep1cF4il said:
i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
cheers
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cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.

proxuser said:
cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.
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it would indeed seem that way. just pulled the cm sources to see if adding a new device wasn't too hard a task and it seems there already has been some work done towards porting it to the saga (aka desire s). finally some good news

Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.

rubbish said:
Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.
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as do i...

rubbish said:
...Really look forward to getting rid of Sense...
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Ep1cF4il said:
as do i...
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?

Dr.Romca said:
Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too

Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )

deadwilder said:
for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too
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NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
I sold NexuS because I missed some of the sense things:
the stock dialer has NO t9 search - most dialer from market are crap or slow or somehow frickled on the stock dialer. Even old nokia do have a quick search option...
Stock contacts are ugly.
GAL (global adress list for exchange server) is NOT implemented in android 2.x - only in 3.0; but it's implemented since sense1 (hero)
CM had some issues - espacially with the notification bar/speed settings - on 2.3 - the new sense 3.0 lockscreen and notification bar are very good - so no need for CM at the moment - for _me_
So I deleted most of sense.apk from /system on my DesireS (all widgets, all "htc", like route66, amazon, stockexchange..) and do use adw-launcher instead of rosie (don't delete it cause is needed for lockscreen settings!) - but do have integrated company exchange and a good biult in dialer, cool contacts (with flickr and fb content) and nice lockscreen..

dont know said:
NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
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there was one thing i didn't like about the nexus s. had i been able to use my 32GB microsd card, i would've gone for the nexus s.

Dr.Romca said:
Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )
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Sense is THE BEST ANDROID UI, EVAR. Don't know why people wanna "DE-SENSE" their phones. I'm gonna flash CM7 to see what the fuss is about , but sense 3.0 first Hopefully, the new official version of CM7 will come for DS too. I'd rather let the ports pass on...........

to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^

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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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In my case I obviously liked the phone much enough to neglect my dislike towards Sense
I don't complain about having Sense and can live with it but would prefer to run clean Android build when/if it becomes available.

Ep1cF4il said:
to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^
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That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!

shrome99 said:
That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!
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i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS

Ep1cF4il said:
i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS
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I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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shrome99 said:
I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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had there been better WebOS devices on the market, i would probably have bought one of those instead. i've been told that app development is a lot easier than on any other platform. and as soon as i get some time, i might just look into writing apps for android.

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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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There's plenty of HTC phones out there that are running custom ROMs and customised user interfaces that don't rely on Sense. It may be the "out of the box experience" as far as most HTC phones are concerned, but isn't that what all THIS (ie these forums) is about - customisations, and thinking "out of the box"? (no pun intended, haha).
If we all concentrated on Sense and variations on that theme then this community would be a much poorer one.
Peace

sense ftw!

Well, i love sense, but i am porting the cm7 just so people have the choose, and also to make the development on this device more alive
But personally, Sense is the thing!

MT4GS HTC Sense 2.1 ROM + 3.0 features (i.e Lockscreen, weather videos, etc.)

Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA

Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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Undeadk9 said:
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )

You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
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From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?

Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.

Sinfamy said:
I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...

Anthonayy said:
Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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Undeadk9 said:
The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
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In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.

Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.

unclespoon said:
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.

Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.

So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?

cal3thousand said:
"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
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Most stable and fastest Sense 4 ROM?

I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?

Dunno about its the best and most stable but I works very good:
[ROM][Sense 4.0][MAR.25] OrDroid 1.7.2 | Fast & Stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551714
only thing there is bodering me is those arrows in the bottum when the qwerty pinboard is up :/

I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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That's a bit contradictory don't you think?

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive

brandonair95 said:
I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?
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I'm trying to find this out too???
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most of them have bluetooth problem ...

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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that's what I say to everyone:
without sense is not an htc!....is just another phone, like others...only who have an htc deserves sense!...
I understood sense after months...is so elegant, so beautiful, useful, you got everything under your finger...fast, veeery smooth, more than all other launchers, and very stable...
social integration, widgets, animation...everything STOCK!...
yesterday I tried ordroid....I think that roms are not enough stable, even if BT is the only bug...but is awesome, very very nice feel and look...is much better than 3.6, but the launcher is a bit laggy

about sense 4.0
I used Ordroid 1.72 sense 4.0, i really like it but my battery is ending to fast, i have the newest firmware, like 12 hours and i need to recharge again, anyone knows why ?

Think Ordroid is Most stabile out there and baads IC. Besids Bt, everything is fine, But i prefer 3.6, more smooth
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Is there any sense 4 rom with working Bluetooth?
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If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
Have a nice day

beston94 said:
If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
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Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.

n7of9 said:
every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive
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To add to this, a bunch of non-HTC users can't all be wrong. I have a number of friends with various other brands of phone, and whatever other good points they might like about their phone, the one thing they most often comment on is how much they like the look and feel of Sense compared to whatever is on their phone.
Yes personal preference is fine, yes Sense is not going to be 100% perfect, but I'll take 90% over 70% any day. Who knows, maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?

goatee84 said:
maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?
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i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference

n7of9 said:
i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference
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It's not so much the speed for me, but the visual lag. on AOSP-senseless my framerate is a constant 60 FPS, which is good, really smooth. On Sense 3.6, 4.0, whatever, I've dipped to 15 FPS before. Like, the homescreen is decently smooth but my Music Queue is ridiculously laggy.
On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless, I don't care what anyone says.

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On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless
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how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??

n7of9 said:
how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??
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I've run a couple of different launchers on Sense ROMs and they are just that...different. They can be faster, and the ability to customise more (transition animations and the like) is a plus, but if you crank all the settings up and choose the most complex animations you are bound to create some lag. My first thought on using a new launcher was "wow this is so much smoother and faster" but once I started delving into all the different options I realised quite a few of those things are default and unchangeable on Sense whilst the custom launchers come a bit more 'stripped back'.
I'm currently using GO Launcher but not because I didn't like Sense, and GO Launcher has been fun but it's certainly presented its own issues. I'm actually considering going back to Sense for a while.

one80oneday said:
Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.
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OrDroid with Bricked kernel, had longest battery life for me.

[DISCUSS] Sense 3.6 with Android 4.0 ICS

Hello fellow XDA-Dev Desire S owners.
So, it seems, that the upcoming FOTA update for the Desire S(Saga) will not feature the Sense 4.0, instead of it, we will be getting the Sense 3.6 and with it we will lose the beloved Sense 3 bottom menu bar in the stock HTC Sense skin and it will be replaced by the hideous "box" layout of the newer Sense UI
For me, that was enough of a reason to flash my Desire S and install the Endymion V3.5 ROM.
What do other XDA-Dev users think about this "update"?

This has been known for a while and to be honest I'm fine with it. In fact we're lucky to be receiving an update. If I were HTC I'd do the same. If old phones are updated to sense 4.0, who's going to buy new phones? Business is business.
I think the look is much sleeker as well. I prefer it
Also it may just be easier to stick to the off topic thread
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I love the "box" (how u call it)
I always didnt like sense... this changed with sense 3.6 and 4
Written in bad english with my HTC Desire S

Afraid you may be alone disliking the 'box', I think it's a great step forward, making proper use of the screen space, with more icons
And as already said afraid that this is old news
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KristjanJ said:
Hello fellow XDA-Dev Desire S owners.
So, it seems, that the upcoming FOTA update for the Desire S(Saga) will not feature the Sense 4.0, instead of it, we will be getting the Sense 3.6 and with it we will lose the beloved Sense 3 bottom menu bar in the stock HTC Sense skin and it will be replaced by the hideous "box" layout of the newer Sense UI
For me, that was enough of a reason to flash my Desire S and install the Endymion V3.5 ROM.
What do other XDA-Dev users think about this "update"?
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For 1 the new ICS dock bar looks NOTHING like you described and as you pictured. our bar goes all the way to end of the screens. the 1 u pictured is sense 4a our new bar is elegant and beautiful. most people are glad to get rid of that old sense bar. For me its all about moving on and the newer the better. if u want the beautiful stock GB bar then DONT bother upgrading. Or u can simply mod your rom to have the old dock bar dont open a thread just to slag off a rom you clearly know NOTHING about

IMHO...Its nice with the newer looks..u get a lot of customisation option here...create shortcuts and folders...earlier sense seems liked it didn't used the screenspace provided..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669497
3.04.401.1 test-keys HTC Desire S

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669497
3.04.401.1 test-keys HTC Desire S
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Ummm... yeah, so?
No offence, but this is stale news by now... this thread was opened as a result of the thread you linked, so i think you're either trying to make a mysterious valid point that i fail to see... or you're generally clueless about what's been happening here since the Virtuous_Saga ROM was announced. Or maybe it's just update fever??

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Ummm... yeah, so?
No offence, but this is stale news by now... this thread was opened as a result of the thread you linked, so i think you're either trying to make a mysterious valid point that i fail to see... or you're generally clueless about what's been happening here since the Virtuous_Saga ROM was announced. Or maybe it's just update fever??
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I suspect that's it's update fever, it does appear that people have gone a little crazy since the latest leak, football must be HTC employee!
If everyone else updates another thread with that latest virtuous thread link I swear I'll explode
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Update fever, sorry guys
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Love the new ui
Been running the Primo 3.5 for some time and loving it. Then for a few weeks ago i reverted back to a 3.5 sense rom to get camera working. Even thou it runs and feels nice i think the new UI is nicer and more smothe.
One X is the **** but Desire S is the bombe

Just installed yesterday the Virtuous Saga 1.0.0, 'till now everything is perfect I could say, I'm navigating on the internet on wireless and listening to some music for about 2h, the battery went down only to 99%, I will come back in a few days with a (hopefully) positive feedback.
I'm running on a S-ON HTCDS unlocked with HTCDEV

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Just installed yesterday the Virtuous Saga 1.0.0, 'till now everything is perfect I could say, I'm navigating on the internet on wireless and listening to some music for about 2h, the battery went down only to 99%, I will come back in a few days with a (hopefully) positive feedback.
I'm running on a S-ON HTCDS unlocked with HTCDEV
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Think that the HTC update is a great thing that they are doing, too many times people are moaning that they cant get the updated version.
You can always run a Virtuous one though or even the the AOKP Ver 36 from tectas that is amazing

Why bother with Sense 3.6 if we have Nova Launcher? It's much more fast then this HTC bloatware named Sense.

I think the best idea for this thread, is to change the title to discussion of Sense 3.6 in general. That way more of us can engage into conversation, talking about bugs, and what we'd like tweaks we'd like to see implemented in future releases.

looks forward to it very much

Personally i loved the update, the battery is simply amazing and the issues that i was having with the usb are gone (flaky usb, when switching modes i had to click it thrice, regardless of ROM) the performance is swell and i think the camera quality ~might~ be better?
Even if we don't like sense 3.6, it just means that we're going to have more options soon (CM9, AOKP, MIUI, Etc..) which ALREADY run like a charm on our DS.
Cheer up people ^w^

Not the first one to report it. But I could confirm the battery mod is reading the false battery capacity
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olyloh6696 said:
Not the first one to report it. But I could confirm the battery mod is reading the false battery capacity
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??? More precisely please!
Sent by my fingers to your head.

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Not the first one to report it. But I could confirm the battery mod is reading the false battery capacity
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I agree with you there... It happens once the battery drops below 30%
I guess the uot kitchen needs to be updated for the newer sense versions
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