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Sense/No Sense?

I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay

Without sense I can't get on with Android

xaccers said:
Without sense I can't get on with Android
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Sense is the main reason i switched from iPhone to Android

Sense with amazing sense skin =]

I used to like sense. Then i tried Cyanogenmod 6 and never went back until i was forced to with the sensation.
Sense is slow and ugly. I prefer minimalistic.

I'd keep Sense launcher if it let me change basic things, like screens number, or dock shortcuts, or add a gesture or two — anything!
But it's all "pre-tuned" in rock for casual users' bliss, and I don't consider myself one. So I'm on LP, and the moment Pyramid has AOSP I'll lose sight of all these idiotically glossy bars and icons completely.

Sofar i have stayed with Sense.
Seems alot of work to get NoSense to work. But maybe when i have sometime over i would take a more closer look into it.
But i like the clock from Sense where i can get into the timer and alarm easy.

htc sensation cant live with no sense,,,,,,,,

ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.

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ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.
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My Words!
No more sense for me, slow stuff
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No Sense bloat for me...I'm using Melvins Senseless Extreme rom & loving it!

Sense suckss
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Both are cool IMHO, but Sense looks a little too kitch for me, alternatives launcher like ADW is better for me .

I'm using the rooted stock ROM and stripped the hell out of it. Removed/replaced everything I could.
I don't even have the Rosie or Sense Lockscreen anymore, it's completely gone!

I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.

mrbkkt1 said:
I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.
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I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.

CoreyRay said:
I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay
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Unless you flashed one of the unstable AOSP ROMs, you've never used a ROM without Sense on your Pyramid.

xaccers said:
I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.

I absolutely love sense. I will only lose it for miui. When that happens
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.
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I use fancy animations, widgets and have seven full homescreens and I am on tmobile. Sense is smooth and zippy and I experience no lag or stutters.
Resource hog.... Wake me up when there's something I want to do on my phone but can't. Until then the resource hog statement has little value. Just like qudrant benchmarks for judging "performance"
Now people out there may have a situation where they are unable to do something with their phone, and if they removed sense and setup the exact same situation they'd be able to do it. Not hypotheticals. Actual instances tested and verified on both sense and nosense. But that's not what you usually read on the board.
What you usually read on the board are many many parrots with a few owls.
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CM7 vs. ARHD

I've been debating about this over the weekend since I installed ARHD on my Sensation.
I know CM7 is still on Alpha, but I'm wondering if it's worth switching over the CM7. I used to run CM when I had my Nexus, and it was awesome. I don't know why but Sense is just so appealing to look at and the Eye Candy is just awesome, so I'm kind of debating on whether or not I should make the switch to CM7 or not. Also, how's the battery life on CM7 in Alpha? ARHD is giving me pretty much 10-12hours of usage with everything on and fairly heavy usage.

I was using revolution HD for a while on my sensation. I did the XE with beats 3.6.0 upgrade too, and it was nice... although I wanted to give cm7 a try. I am very impressed... for alpha, it is incredibly stable. Camera is nicer, it's nearly instantaneous (where revolution still had a 1-2 second delay between launch and home) boot is faster, battery is better... all sorts of neat things.

Basically you're going to be giving up your Camera, HTC keyboard, Video Recording, Sense Dialer. I tried it and went back to LeeDROiD, because I couldn't handle the camera and missed the keyboard.

nothing in the world beats htc keyboard >>

Spekko said:
nothing in the world beats htc keyboard >>
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ehh, swype much?

RussianBear said:
ehh, swype much?
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+1
I can't live without Swype
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If you don't need the eyecandy... go with CM7.
If you do need the eyecandy... go with MiUi.
If you need HTC stuff... stay with Sense. Otherwise CM and MiUi rape Sense on performance.

Personally I use both. I like both and have always been loyal to the CM roms on all my phones. The I lovethe speed of this rom however I do like ARHD. The What ever I feeling that week I run. I keep nandroids of both and keep them up to date and restore when needed.
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Spekko said:
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I much prefer Swiftkey X.
But, the camera and lockscreen are two significant reasons I always end up coming back to a Sense rom.

nrvnqsrxk said:
Basically you're going to be giving up your Camera, HTC keyboard, Video Recording, Sense Dialer. I tried it and went back to LeeDROiD, because I couldn't handle the camera and missed the keyboard.
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You lose all these things? You can't use the camera or record video?
For me I'd say Swype > HTC Keyboard
I have no idea what the Sense Dialer is, but I'm sure the alternative is that you can still dial and call people. =)

I agree I have the beats theme with the alien lockscreen. I know many are not impressed with the beats Software however my music sounds great. I use SwiftKey x as well. I just wish there was a bigger selection of skins.
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relic419 said:
I much prefer Swiftkey X.
But, the camera and lockscreen are two significant reasons I always end up coming back to a Sense rom.
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Yeah SwiftKey is the nuts. Just because you have a sense rom doesn't mean you have to use it. Plenty of launchers out there. I'm uprooted using lp+ and the phone is flying. Really tempted to go with arhd though.
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n0oblettz said:
You lose all these things? You can't use the camera or record video?
For me I'd say Swype > HTC Keyboard
I have no idea what the Sense Dialer is, but I'm sure the alternative is that you can still dial and call people. =)
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He just means HTC's version of each.
In my opinion MiUi is the best ROM. I think it beats out CM for total functionality and the themes and eyecandy are endless. It's CM taken to the next level. I even used to run the Swype keyboard on it with my HD2, haven't tried with the Sensation.

RussianBear said:
ehh, swype much?
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personally, i hate swype with a passion

What about a Rom that mixes the best of both worlds?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App

Cm7 alpha 7 as the option to launch up to 4 apps from the lockscreen... That's why we love cm nightly... Updated every night! And we're not even in the official nightly yet
Hi my name is DloBrown and Im A nightly addict who've been sober for too long!!!

There might be too many bugs in CM7 at the moment for me to just jump on to it. How easy is it to keep updating nightlies? Will all my apps stay from each update to update? Helping with the alpha and providing issues may be something that would make me switch over.

using CM7 alpha 7 right now. Loving it. The only thing I missed was the lock screen and alpha 7 has a similar one to sense, so i'm good now. 1080p recording still not active but will be. Also
one other thing I miss about sense was the face book to contacts sync. CM7 can sync them but not as good. I have some contacts under nicknames that sense used to match with my face book friends. But overall I prefer CM7, much smoother and more customizable.
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I have Android Revolution 3.60. im on Bell and haven't flashed the recommended radio. Im scared to do so, as my other phone- moto dext would overwrite my existing radio with tmob's if i updated it. Im used to flashing roms with no radio. My battery really sucks it drops like mad and have to constantly charge

CM7 all the way, but...
I have been using CM7 for a couple of weeks, and I can say that even in alpha, this rom is great. The bugs are not that significant (at least for me) and it is extremely fast. I am not big in the eye candy thing, so for me I prefer a simpler rom than one with more bells and whistles.
That being said, ARHD is the best Sense rom out there, especially because it was the first one with full access to the dual core processor. Mike1984 has done a great job with the rom, it is extremely stable and the add-ons are nice. I have to be honest and I don't think that there is a camera app that can beat the Sense one. I am talking about basic functions, meaning taking pics and recording video, as there is no 2-3 seconds delay after pressing the shutter button.
I don't think that CM7 is for everybody (not right now), so if you just want your phone to work flawlessly, I will say go with ARHD.
P.S.: I personally don't like MIUI, it is too iphonish for me, but I would agree with another person in this forum, who says that it is the evolution of CM7. I do like the performance of the rom, just not the look of it, I hope that they bring back the app drawer.

MT4GS HTC Sense 2.1 ROM + 3.0 features (i.e Lockscreen, weather videos, etc.)

Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA

Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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Undeadk9 said:
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )

You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
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From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?

Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.

Sinfamy said:
I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...

Anthonayy said:
Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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Undeadk9 said:
The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
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In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.

Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.

unclespoon said:
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.

Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.

So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?

cal3thousand said:
"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
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why sense 3.0. i wish a actually sense 2.1 rom

hi guys,
why have all the focus on sense 3.0 roms?
i prefer sense 2.1. i use at the moment the lbc 0.60 mod with unity v4 kernel
in my eyes the best sense 2.1 rom.
is it possible to make a sense 2.1 rom in mix with actually ota from htc or using the newest kernels like unity v9 or else.
thx

Mix with ota sure possible, but yet not build as much as i know.
Unity v9 you can use, anyway it fits better than tiamat, cause unity is build for sense roms and tiamat for aosp roms

I'm quite surprised that that kernel works with sense!?
Nothings wrong with Sense v2.1 and LBC IMO was best implementation of it - I've not long come from it myself, although even LBC's next ROM will be pure sense 3.0 - showing that times change and things move on!
The reason why the direction has moved towards Sense v3.0 is as a result of the official release and the fact that the devs have tweaked it so that it runs as fast if not smoother than Sense v2.1 did, with more eye candy!
They just need to work on battery life!

sorry. i'm using unity v4. i have changed first post

I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method

Nomader0 said:
I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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You need to try more Sense v3.0 ROMS the degree that the carousel spins varies across the ROMs and in some is even turn on and off'able.
I personally really like the way that I can scroll in a full circle - a huge improvement on having to go left or right then stopping, but, I don't think that the carousel effect is completely necessary.

Nomader0 said:
I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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I also hate the nuisance spinning carousel. It's a prime example of form over function. If you want a good Sense 3.0 ROM where this has been inhibited, I can recommend BinDroid. It's not been turned off, just damped right down so it's actually quite hard to go into an eyeroll-inducing home-screen spin-out.

I actually hate the whole screen switching thing. I prefer the side to side switch of 2.1

Must admit I like the carousel ,rather than having to flick backwards and forwards ,it's just case of moving on around

Went to cyanogenmod and never looked back.
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det66 said:
Must admit I like the carousel ,rather than having to flick backwards and forwards ,it's just case of moving on around
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No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!

I would have agreed with the OP a few months back
I disliked the sense 3.0 aswell. I tried virtuous unity, it was slow AND laggy.
But since then, sense 3.0 has been desgined for single core now. And it is very well optimized for pur phones.
I don't really mind the carousel.. ive gotten used to it now.
The real things I like about 3.0 are the deeper integration, keyboard new sense apps etc.
What looks.nice now is sense 3.5 want to give it a go soon!
Do any of you notice any significant changes in battery life between 2.1 vs 3.0?
I don't!
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is it possible to mix 2.1 apk and widgets with 3.0? so i make my personal rom. i think i have to study "how to cook a rom"

Nomader0 said:
I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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wnp_79 said:
I also hate the nuisance spinning carousel. It's a prime example of form over function. If you want a good Sense 3.0 ROM where this has been inhibited, I can recommend BinDroid. It's not been turned off, just damped right down so it's actually quite hard to go into an eyeroll-inducing home-screen spin-out.
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I actually hate the whole screen switching thing. I prefer the side to side switch of 2.1
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ben_pyett said:
No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
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Try VoidU, the carousel is a little hard to spin in a full circle and over all a good ROM.

harshs23 said:
Try VoidU, the carousel is a little hard to spin in a full circle and over all a good ROM.
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Yeah, noticed that when I tried comparing spinning on hyperion and VoidU
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ben_pyett said:
No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
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ahh but that is just down to how fast you flick it ,it's not the de-facto way of doing it

[Q] Whats the difference between sense 3.0 and 3.5?

Tried to search for this on the forums but didn't find anything.
So...
What is the difference between sense 3.0 and sense 3.5? (except the .5)

GUI graphics have changed, menus have been rearranged a little bit, bit quicker to access certain functionality, as well as new features added.
If you want my opinion, go for 3.5, its a lot better.

zeekiz said:
GUI graphics have changed, menus have been rearranged a little bit, bit quicker to access certain functionality, as well as new features added.
If you want my opinion, go for 3.5, its a lot better.
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What??!! No sarcasm!! Zeekiz, you're losing your edge bro...
I'd have to agree with that though. Go for Sense 3.5.
As for the diffenences between 3 and 3.5, Google, and YouTube.

The differences are very subtle, but why go for vista now that windows 7 is out?
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enigmaamit said:
What??!! No sarcasm!! Zeekiz, you're losing your edge bro...
I'd have to agree with that though. Go for Sense 3.5.
As for the diffenences between 3 and 3.5, Google, and YouTube.
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I googled for differences between the two and found lots of pages talking about the official/declared changes.
I was hoping to get some "under the hood" info from the forum folk.

blu3zy said:
I googled for differences between the two and found lots of pages talking about the official/declared changes.
I was hoping to get some "under the hood" info from the forum folk.
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Lets use some analogies here. The difference between sense 3 and sense 3.5 is the same as a woman, she may be wearing the latest clothes as the woman next to her wearing older clothes, but underneath those clothes she still has those "desirable" (see what I did there?) lady parts.
Basically, 3.5 is sense 3.0, just with a fancy new dress.

Sense 3.5 is much faster for me. UI of certain apps finally look beautiful which makes the whole Sense the best UI out there. Just my opinion.

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The differences are very subtle, but why go for vista now that windows 7 is out?
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2.1 -> 3.0 -> 3.5 evolve
I have used stock Sense 2.1 for over a half year till i rooted and tried out Runny S(Sense 3.5) the change was stunning.
After using (testing) more and more ROMs, mainly through more iterations of updates(3.0 like Voidu, Hyperion and 3.5 Runny S, Endymion) i have seen that the changes are not only visual, but e.g. the Sense 3.5 gallery is much faster and the improvement is huge in my opinion (miss it a lot right now on CM7.1).
Next i seen is the camera app, as i take a lot of pictures with phone (only in common days ), i realized it has many new features, that makes your phone even more usable as a everyday camera.
I suggest you try the Endymion(3.5, really fast, stable, many features), which is almost as stable and fast as Hyperion(3.0, fast, stable, good battery). Maybe try both and see for yourself, which has better experience for you.

3.5 not drain to much battery?
i want to try Endymion rom, this is a good choice?

ceptrus said:
3.5 not drain to much battery?
i want to try Endymion rom, this is a good choice?
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Battery drain on Sense ROM depends on your mobile usage ! (you can use it an entire day with a normal use without any problem)
But Endymion is really good choice !

ceptrus said:
3.5 not drain to much battery?
i want to try Endymion rom, this is a good choice?
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IMO, I don't think there is a noticeable difference in terms of battery life.
And Endymion is your best ROM to use for Sense ATM.
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endymion instaled and i have to say that i love it
thanks