I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay
Without sense I can't get on with Android
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Without sense I can't get on with Android
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Sense is the main reason i switched from iPhone to Android
Sense with amazing sense skin =]
I used to like sense. Then i tried Cyanogenmod 6 and never went back until i was forced to with the sensation.
Sense is slow and ugly. I prefer minimalistic.
I'd keep Sense launcher if it let me change basic things, like screens number, or dock shortcuts, or add a gesture or two — anything!
But it's all "pre-tuned" in rock for casual users' bliss, and I don't consider myself one. So I'm on LP, and the moment Pyramid has AOSP I'll lose sight of all these idiotically glossy bars and icons completely.
Sofar i have stayed with Sense.
Seems alot of work to get NoSense to work. But maybe when i have sometime over i would take a more closer look into it.
But i like the clock from Sense where i can get into the timer and alarm easy.
htc sensation cant live with no sense,,,,,,,,
ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.
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ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.
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No more sense for me, slow stuff
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No Sense bloat for me...I'm using Melvins Senseless Extreme rom & loving it!
Sense suckss
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Both are cool IMHO, but Sense looks a little too kitch for me, alternatives launcher like ADW is better for me .
I'm using the rooted stock ROM and stripped the hell out of it. Removed/replaced everything I could.
I don't even have the Rosie or Sense Lockscreen anymore, it's completely gone!
I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.
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I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.
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I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.
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I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay
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Unless you flashed one of the unstable AOSP ROMs, you've never used a ROM without Sense on your Pyramid.
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I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.
I absolutely love sense. I will only lose it for miui. When that happens
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.
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I use fancy animations, widgets and have seven full homescreens and I am on tmobile. Sense is smooth and zippy and I experience no lag or stutters.
Resource hog.... Wake me up when there's something I want to do on my phone but can't. Until then the resource hog statement has little value. Just like qudrant benchmarks for judging "performance"
Now people out there may have a situation where they are unable to do something with their phone, and if they removed sense and setup the exact same situation they'd be able to do it. Not hypotheticals. Actual instances tested and verified on both sense and nosense. But that's not what you usually read on the board.
What you usually read on the board are many many parrots with a few owls.
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I just was curious to see what you all thought of the sense integration with android. I have had many android phones, this is my first HTC phone. Whenever I got a new android device the first thing I would do is customize everything to the way I liked it. This always started with a Google search on rooting it to get a custom rom. Mainly cause I could and I liked the differences.
I have to say that I am happy with this phone. I have been using it the way it came out of the box. I think that the sense has made the already good android system even better. Perhaps its gingerbread doing its work as well for a good experience. This phone plain and simple just works. Multi tasking is very reliable unlike most of my expierences with other android devices (COUGH...G2x...COUGH) No issues to date. The phone and the phone interface is excellent IMO. I don't even think I will root it when its able to be done. Perhaps only to have recovery option available. Thumbs up too HTC!!
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hate it. ADW launcher FTW.
I like sense, but it seems really resourse intensive, pretty sure u can achieve the same eye candy less power hungry. Still need root, to remove the crapware that came with the phone.
Sense 3.0 is a LOT better than previous versions, only other launcher worth looking at is LauncherPro IMO
Sense suxs for me...like other launchers much better!
I like certain aspects of Sense like the text app, contacts app and clock app but I think HTC is going in the wrong direction with its UI. They are digging further into Android and in my opinion, adding to much eye candy.
I never though I'd say it but Samsung is moving in the right direction with Touch Wiz by minimalizing the nonsense animations and adding slight improvements to Android.
I loaded ADW onto the Sensation and haven't looked back. It made this phone faster than my G2X.
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I like Sense 3.0 though I do wish they would optimize it a bit.
i like the way sense works. I had a galaxy s 4g for a little and i didn't like the interface as much as sense. Only thing i liked better was the better looking messaging app. The htc one looks so cheap and boring.
I really like sense and I wouldnt buy an android device without it at this time.
I believe that sense will get better with time and with the fact that HTC in releasing the sense SDK
I like sense~~~beautiful!!~
but seems that it has a big power consumption
Personally, I don't like Sense. It's the biggest reason I want a custom rom on this phone. I agree with jrwingate6's comments on TouchWiz, but I'm an AOSP guy.
Sense 3.0 is definitely an upgrade. With previous versions of Sense, I couldn't use them on my HD2 because of the pocket call answer / decline problem (I would always decline calls because my leg would slide up on the screen when I pulled the phone out). I like the Sense lockscreen and the widgets, however, I'm using LauncherPro Plus right now. I can't deal with the inability to resize widgets and not set the number of rows / columns on each screen. Running LauncherPro also seems to have sped up the phone considerably.
I am not a fan of sense, though I do like the lock screen, app draw and running apps in the notification. I find that the additional animations sounds and other beauty aspects really hinder the performance of the phone. I am currently using golauncher.
Can't wait for root to de-bloat and remove a good portion or all of sense.
After never having an android phone that had sense on it, I have to say I like it. It's different sure, and it might be a little over the top, but I still like it. If you're going to have a skin on your phone i'd choose skin over any other in a heart beat. That's just my opinion though.
I love the aesthetics of Sense but it is too much of a resource hog and apparently very glitchy. I like what HTC did with the mail client, SMS application, weather and a few other standout features but the UX overall just doesn't seem optimized for the dual-core processors.
I also notices something today...I replaced the stock keyboard with another one I found on the market and guess what, the scrolling speed has dramatically improved! I use ADW launcher and now my app drawer and home screens scroll just as smoothly as my HD2 with Hyperdroid android 2.3. Go figure.
For the most part I really like sense. The weather clock, the contacts widgets, the notification tray with quick settings and running programs. The camera ap. The contact/social networking integration. Much of the skinning they do. Features like putting the phone face down to turn on the speaker phone. Adjusting call volume in/out of the pocket, when th ephone is moved, etc. All that I really like.
The sound fx for the weather I hate. I also hate they waste screen real estate with the stupid "customize screen" button. Just let me long press on the screen if I want to add an icon or change the wallpaper. I'd love to be able to use that button for something else. I much prefer the customization that I can get from a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher.
I just wish I could use Sense widgets on ADW Launcher and I would be happy.
I like it, but I think it's waaaaaay too much. You can see this by the lag (I have it, sadly )
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I'm missing my MIUI from my Nexus one, the 5-way lockscreen on MIUI is pretty awesome.
On principal I like Sense 3.0 as it does look good and would be great if it wasn't such a hog. I'm more a minimalist though and obviously Sense 3.0 is the complete opposite.
I have disabled just about every sense feature i could and removed all sense widgets except for the weather as that is kinda cool looking if nothing else.
I have always loved the eye candy of sense but never used it on any of my phones because I like my phone to be as snappy and fast as possible and sense always seemed to bogg the phone down. In fact, this is the longest I've gone leaving sense on a phone. Usually right out of the box I root it and install a non sense rom. I really am liking sense 3.0 I think it will be better once they get the kinks worked out of it. It still is a resource hog but my phone doesnt appear as laggy as older sense versions/phones. While I cant wait until we get root and s-off to install a non sense rom/kernel I think I will miss 3.0 a bit. I've tried using adw ex on my sensation (used it on all my phones and tablets and LOVED it) but I keep going back to the eye candy of sense 3.0
This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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Nice!!
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My first Android phone was the Tmobile (US) G2, so I got used to the plain vanilla OS. When I got my Sensation 4G in June I was immediately put off by Sense, which in my opinion is inferior. To get closer to the stock feel I use Launcher Pro and this certainly helps, but I still see Sense running in the applications list. If I kill the process it momentarily gets removed from the list but is there again when I next check. I have read that this could be because Sense also controls the dialer and contacts, so my question is if I replace those functions with a 3rd party application will Sense be gone for good?
Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
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Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
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I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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Yes its definitely personal preference. It would take away the shine of having an android phone if you didn't use it. Android is very basic and the "normal" hope screens are boring compared to HTC Sense. Anyway i'm all for sense .
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!
I would like use Miui!
What do you knows about it when can we have it?
Maybe tomorrow
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I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
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Sense is a cpu/battery hog while its active. On android however, when apps are put into the background, they become inactive.
Now I'm not a developer so I may be wrong. I based this conclusion off this article which leedroid linked to in his rom: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!
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NEED MIUI?
Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
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It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
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Both is better then other!
What's good in sence?
Use more efficiency?
Use more of battery?
Give you more what do you dont get from apk?
Or simple esay gold drog?
PLEASE explane me.
thx
I like using LauncherPro in place of Sense because you can add all the eye candy you want (even Sense looking eye-candy) without having to include the whole battery wasting, memory hogging, and gigantic Sense Eco-system.
Based on what appears to be confirmation that Sense is a memory/cpu/battery hog, will running an alternate launcher be sufficient to prevent this or do I need to somehow fully disable it?
Just use your launcher pro. Don't worry about sense, she won't bother you anymore.
I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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NEED MIUI?
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+1 on that
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I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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Yeah, I had that problem too. I bought my phone yesterday and was up till dawn messing around with it. Launcher pro seems extremely laggy, so much so that sense was a welcome change. LP worked better on my magic!
Yeah well Launcher Pro is pretty much abandoned by the developer. Hasn't been updated once since at least october last year.
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Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )
You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
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From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?
Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
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In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.
Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.
So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
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What do u expect HTC to bring to the table wit sense 4.0 I heard the HTC edge is apost to have it .
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Tez MyTouch said:
What do u expect HTC to bring to the table wit sense 4.0 I heard the HTC edge is apost to have it .
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
neidlinger said:
I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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I disagree. I go a full day of usage with sense and im ok. Sense makes the phone way better with all its eye candy and simplicity. AOSP roms are awesome but dull. I've had all sorts of vanilla roms and they bore me. Nothings beats the unlock screen of sense 3.0.
As far as sense 4.0? Idk, change in looks? And definitely change so it can mingle with ICS.
sense 4.0..User friendly, animated icons and adaptive to user use...
neidlinger said:
I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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Strongly disagree. I'm on sense and got 21 hours with a little over two hours of display time. And its as smooth as any cm7 based rom for me. Free ram is wasted ram.
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TopazUser1 said:
I disagree. I go a full day of usage with sense and im ok. Sense makes the phone way better with all its eye candy and simplicity. AOSP roms are awesome but dull. I've had all sorts of vanilla roms and they bore me. Nothings beats the unlock screen of sense 3.0.
As far as sense 4.0? Idk, change in looks? And definitely change so it can mingle with ICS.
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jberg22 said:
Strongly disagree. I'm on sense and got 21 hours with a little over two hours of display time. And its as smooth as any cm7 based rom for me. Free ram is wasted ram.
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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What "resources" are you referring to? Nothing more than RAM? I usually have about 130 mb of free ram on sense and can't tell a difference between that and a cm7 rom with 300 free mb. And what's so bad about the use of "resources" if you can still get great battery life and run a smooth rom?
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why come into a thread that's specifically about Sense, and tout your love of AOSP?
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What "resources" are you referring to? Nothing more than RAM? I usually have about 130 mb of free ram on sense and can't tell a difference between that and a cm7 rom with 300 free mb. And what's so bad about the use of "resources" if you can still get great battery life and run a smooth rom?
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Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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Tez MyTouch said:
Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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Yeah if I do a lot of multitasking I'll usually kill some apps using the built in task manager. But my whole point is, if I can't tell a difference between the speed and fluidity of the two in normal daily use, then why's it make a difference?
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neidlinger said:
I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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And its fun to ride but don't let your friends see you
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Tez MyTouch said:
Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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What amount? It's FREE memory. The memory that doesn't get used, because the system kills the "aged" apps way before they reach anywhere close to memory boundaries. No multitasking will bring you to the boundaries of memory with that much free RAM, even if you keep 5 games open simultaneously (and they usually save state and drop from memory anyway, if they're programmed well).
neidlinger said:
You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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We're listening.
Resource hog? Resources are there to be used, that's the whole point of having CPU- and graphically-strong phone with 768MB RAM and 400MB of system partition size. If I wanted to run AOSP, I'd stick with Nexus One, it was plenty enough for that.
The points were discussed MULTIPLE times:
AOSP dialer sucks badly, and no replacement out of the box is good enough and preserves full functionality under Gingerbread (clearing missed calls requires converting dialer to system app, and not all dialers support it). Dialer One lags badly with contact pics. Go Dialer EX has other bugs.
AOSP Email sucks just as bad. No moving mail between folders?
AOSP camera sucks big time.
AOSP lack of power controls in the notification bar sucks.
AOSP system interface is way uglier. Especially Gingerbread notification bar icons.
AOSP calendar sucks in its UI.
And you can't get those with any additions to the stock, because the additions mostly lack functionality and aren't well-integrated together.
Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with Sense 3. I'd like Sense to have better multilanguage support, though. And a customizable button or 2 in the dock bar. And some way to quickly pick a number for a contact with multiple numbers in dialer.
neidlinger said:
I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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literally the worst false analogy ive ever heard.
Jack_R1 said:
What amount? It's FREE memory. The memory that doesn't get used, because the system kills the "aged" apps way before they reach anywhere close to memory boundaries. No multitasking will bring you to the boundaries of memory with that much free RAM, even if you keep 5 games open simultaneously (and they usually save state and drop from memory anyway, if they're programmed well).
We're listening.
Resource hog? Resources are there to be used, that's the whole point of having CPU- and graphically-strong phone with 768MB RAM and 400MB of system partition size. If I wanted to run AOSP, I'd stick with Nexus One, it was plenty enough for that.
The points were discussed MULTIPLE times:
AOSP dialer sucks badly, and no replacement out of the box is good enough and preserves full functionality under Gingerbread (clearing missed calls requires converting dialer to system app, and not all dialers support it). Dialer One lags badly with contact pics. Go Dialer EX has other bugs.
AOSP Email sucks just as bad. No moving mail between folders?
AOSP camera sucks big time.
AOSP lack of power controls in the notification bar sucks.
AOSP system interface is way uglier. Especially Gingerbread notification bar icons.
AOSP calendar sucks in its UI.
And you can't get those with any additions to the stock, because the additions mostly lack functionality and aren't well-integrated together.
Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with Sense 3. I'd like Sense to have better multilanguage support, though. And a customizable button or 2 in the dock bar. And some way to quickly pick a number for a contact with multiple numbers in dialer.
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Totally agree with everything you said. I always felt like AOSP would never be enough to make my friends with iPhones jealous just because of its dull appearance. I feel like Sense can do that though.
Also, what do you think about ICS in regards to all that criteria? From some of the stuff I've seen, vanilla ICS looks pretty impressive and I feel like it corrects a lot of the things I didn't like about stock GB and previous versions.
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I didn't check the ICS too thoroughly, and in the official presentation not even one of the points I was looking for were mentioned. I'll probably grab the SDK update and take a look at the emulator some time, but I'm not in a hurry I'm most interested in functional points like dialer, email and camera, and for checking those I'll need to work on that emulator a bit - which is why I'm lazy to do it.
+1 on Sense superiority. I've gone back and forth many times between AOSP and Sense, and while there are things I LOVE about AOSP/cm7, overall the experience packs less of an impact, as you guys said. When running Sense (now Sense 3.5), it just feels like I have higher quality software on my phone. And as I still get solid performance and battery life, it's worth the extra usage of resources.
Those concerned about resources should know that android operates just as fast with 300 MB of free ram as it does with 1 mb. It will use what it needs and has no iimpact on how much iis left over.
corwest said:
Those concerned about resources should know that android operates just as fast with 300 MB of free ram as it does with 1 mb. It will use what it needs and has no iimpact on how much iis left over.
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Someone understands that this is not Windows... ;-)
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Is there any rom having sense 4.0?
boredbutter said:
Someone understands that this is not Windows... ;-)
Sent by impulse courtesy of BinDroid...
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And we are all greatful for it
I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?
Dunno about its the best and most stable but I works very good:
[ROM][Sense 4.0][MAR.25] OrDroid 1.7.2 | Fast & Stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551714
only thing there is bodering me is those arrows in the bottum when the qwerty pinboard is up :/
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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That's a bit contradictory don't you think?
xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive
brandonair95 said:
I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?
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I'm trying to find this out too???
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most of them have bluetooth problem ...
xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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that's what I say to everyone:
without sense is not an htc!....is just another phone, like others...only who have an htc deserves sense!...
I understood sense after months...is so elegant, so beautiful, useful, you got everything under your finger...fast, veeery smooth, more than all other launchers, and very stable...
social integration, widgets, animation...everything STOCK!...
yesterday I tried ordroid....I think that roms are not enough stable, even if BT is the only bug...but is awesome, very very nice feel and look...is much better than 3.6, but the launcher is a bit laggy
about sense 4.0
I used Ordroid 1.72 sense 4.0, i really like it but my battery is ending to fast, i have the newest firmware, like 12 hours and i need to recharge again, anyone knows why ?
Think Ordroid is Most stabile out there and baads IC. Besids Bt, everything is fine, But i prefer 3.6, more smooth
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Is there any sense 4 rom with working Bluetooth?
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If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
Have a nice day
beston94 said:
If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
Have a nice day
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Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.
n7of9 said:
every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive
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To add to this, a bunch of non-HTC users can't all be wrong. I have a number of friends with various other brands of phone, and whatever other good points they might like about their phone, the one thing they most often comment on is how much they like the look and feel of Sense compared to whatever is on their phone.
Yes personal preference is fine, yes Sense is not going to be 100% perfect, but I'll take 90% over 70% any day. Who knows, maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?
goatee84 said:
maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?
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i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference
n7of9 said:
i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference
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It's not so much the speed for me, but the visual lag. on AOSP-senseless my framerate is a constant 60 FPS, which is good, really smooth. On Sense 3.6, 4.0, whatever, I've dipped to 15 FPS before. Like, the homescreen is decently smooth but my Music Queue is ridiculously laggy.
On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless, I don't care what anyone says.
sshede said:
On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless
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how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??
n7of9 said:
how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??
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I've run a couple of different launchers on Sense ROMs and they are just that...different. They can be faster, and the ability to customise more (transition animations and the like) is a plus, but if you crank all the settings up and choose the most complex animations you are bound to create some lag. My first thought on using a new launcher was "wow this is so much smoother and faster" but once I started delving into all the different options I realised quite a few of those things are default and unchangeable on Sense whilst the custom launchers come a bit more 'stripped back'.
I'm currently using GO Launcher but not because I didn't like Sense, and GO Launcher has been fun but it's certainly presented its own issues. I'm actually considering going back to Sense for a while.
one80oneday said:
Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.
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OrDroid with Bricked kernel, had longest battery life for me.