My first Android phone was the Tmobile (US) G2, so I got used to the plain vanilla OS. When I got my Sensation 4G in June I was immediately put off by Sense, which in my opinion is inferior. To get closer to the stock feel I use Launcher Pro and this certainly helps, but I still see Sense running in the applications list. If I kill the process it momentarily gets removed from the list but is there again when I next check. I have read that this could be because Sense also controls the dialer and contacts, so my question is if I replace those functions with a 3rd party application will Sense be gone for good?
Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
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Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
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I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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Yes its definitely personal preference. It would take away the shine of having an android phone if you didn't use it. Android is very basic and the "normal" hope screens are boring compared to HTC Sense. Anyway i'm all for sense .
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!
I would like use Miui!
What do you knows about it when can we have it?
Maybe tomorrow
webmaster said:
I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
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Sense is a cpu/battery hog while its active. On android however, when apps are put into the background, they become inactive.
Now I'm not a developer so I may be wrong. I based this conclusion off this article which leedroid linked to in his rom: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!
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NEED MIUI?
Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
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It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
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Both is better then other!
What's good in sence?
Use more efficiency?
Use more of battery?
Give you more what do you dont get from apk?
Or simple esay gold drog?
PLEASE explane me.
thx
I like using LauncherPro in place of Sense because you can add all the eye candy you want (even Sense looking eye-candy) without having to include the whole battery wasting, memory hogging, and gigantic Sense Eco-system.
Based on what appears to be confirmation that Sense is a memory/cpu/battery hog, will running an alternate launcher be sufficient to prevent this or do I need to somehow fully disable it?
Just use your launcher pro. Don't worry about sense, she won't bother you anymore.
I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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NEED MIUI?
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+1 on that
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I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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Yeah, I had that problem too. I bought my phone yesterday and was up till dawn messing around with it. Launcher pro seems extremely laggy, so much so that sense was a welcome change. LP worked better on my magic!
Yeah well Launcher Pro is pretty much abandoned by the developer. Hasn't been updated once since at least october last year.
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HTC evo can run (out of the box) stock android w/ nexus launcher and all.
http://htcdev.net/topic/11584-sprint-evo-4g-working-without-sense-ui/
I don't know if this has been posted before, since I'm in a rush to prom I havent been able to check. anyways, htc has done another thing right. yay! haha
1. There is already a topic about this.
2. There is NO WAY to run the phone without Sense UI without installing a custom ROM. Sense UI is highly integrated into the OS. The video that you see is the EVO running launcher2.apk instead of Rosie.apk (the Sense home app). This is nothing new or exciting, so I wish people would stop making damn topics about it.
Hey man, you gotta understand i didnt search and couldnt search. Also, i know you cant completely replace sense ui on a stock rom but some people like the launcher2.apk better. So sorry for double posting bud
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Sense FTW. Me no likey regular android homescreen . Ah well. If you wanna fly MiGs.. You fly MiG Alley. If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
Sense FTW. Me no likey regular android homescreen . Ah well. If you wanna fly MiGs.. You fly MiG Alley. If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
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I always used to hate sense, but then after looking very close at this phone, I have to admit i love it now! Just getting more and more psyched for this phone every time i see it. I think if everyone took their time to look in to sense ui, they would end up liking it a lot like myself.
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I always used to hate sense, but then after looking very close at this phone, I have to admit i love it now! Just getting more and more psyched for this phone every time i see it. I think if everyone took their time to look in to sense ui, they would end up liking it a lot like myself.
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For many this is true. For others, I suspect there are multiple motivations for wanting a pure android. I suspect most fall into one or more of 3 categories.
They may want pure as the driven snow Open Source Android
They might want as few of what they don't need as possible for increased resources
They simply don't like the HTC and it's prettiness
To each his own. As long as you're on Android, we are on the same side. Viva La Evo! Viva Android! Death to Apple!
I like Android Sense. Makes the transition from WM6.5 Sense a lot smother for me
I dont think anyone would deny that fact that Sense looks amazing. I just want to shut it off to save my battery. From what i hear, sense is quite the juice hog.
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Hey man, you gotta understand i didnt search and couldnt search. Also, i know you cant completely replace sense ui on a stock rom but some people like the launcher2.apk better. So sorry for double posting bud
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what do you mean you couldn't search? at this moment their are only 4 threads in this section, all you had to do was open your eyes.
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I dont think anyone would deny that fact that Sense looks amazing. I just want to shut it off to save my battery. From what i hear, sense is quite the juice hog.
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You won't save much battery if you turn Sense off. Unless you just have pages full of self updating widgets or something.
love the 2.1 UI.im GOING for that instead of the SENSE
Yeah... I'm looking forward to a stock froyo EVO as soon as possible... best of luck to those with the skill to make it happen
Or at least sense with the stock 2.2 launcher. I actually like the default contacts and messaging apps for sense. Not to mention the clock is way better too, and camera has tap to focus. One thing AOSP has for me though is the look, the white and orange are very appeasing for some reason.
im jus hopeing HTC keeps their promise of updating the SUPERSONIC in july to FROYO 2.2(love the UI).gonna love the phone even more.
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im jus hopeing HTC keeps their promise of updating the SUPERSONIC in july to FROYO 2.2(love the UI).gonna love the phone even more.
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I don't think they promised anything at any date, other than that most handsets made after 2010 will get 2.2... no specific dates were set..maybe i am wrong and please link me if i am..
Nvm found the answer.
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... If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
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hhmm, goofy quote, I'll say that.
HTC Sense is "attractive", but not for everyone.
The first time I played with Sense was on a Hero ROM on my G1. Then again with the Desire ROM on my Nexus.
Even with the Nexus speed increase, it was definitely NOT sexy.
I really like the Plain Jane look of Android™ raw.
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For many this is true. For others, I suspect there are multiple motivations for wanting a pure android. I suspect most fall into one or more of 3 categories.
They may want pure as the driven snow Open Source Android
They might want as few of what they don't need as possible for increased resources
They simply don't like the HTC and it's prettiness
To each his own. As long as you're on Android, we are on the same side. Viva La Evo! Viva Android! Death to Apple!
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si si, Viva la EVO y la Android, death to Apple?
But I like picking on my iPhoney friends!!!
I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay
Without sense I can't get on with Android
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Without sense I can't get on with Android
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Sense is the main reason i switched from iPhone to Android
Sense with amazing sense skin =]
I used to like sense. Then i tried Cyanogenmod 6 and never went back until i was forced to with the sensation.
Sense is slow and ugly. I prefer minimalistic.
I'd keep Sense launcher if it let me change basic things, like screens number, or dock shortcuts, or add a gesture or two — anything!
But it's all "pre-tuned" in rock for casual users' bliss, and I don't consider myself one. So I'm on LP, and the moment Pyramid has AOSP I'll lose sight of all these idiotically glossy bars and icons completely.
Sofar i have stayed with Sense.
Seems alot of work to get NoSense to work. But maybe when i have sometime over i would take a more closer look into it.
But i like the clock from Sense where i can get into the timer and alarm easy.
htc sensation cant live with no sense,,,,,,,,
ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.
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ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.
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My Words!
No more sense for me, slow stuff
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No Sense bloat for me...I'm using Melvins Senseless Extreme rom & loving it!
Sense suckss
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Both are cool IMHO, but Sense looks a little too kitch for me, alternatives launcher like ADW is better for me .
I'm using the rooted stock ROM and stripped the hell out of it. Removed/replaced everything I could.
I don't even have the Rosie or Sense Lockscreen anymore, it's completely gone!
I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.
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I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.
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I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.
CoreyRay said:
I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay
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Unless you flashed one of the unstable AOSP ROMs, you've never used a ROM without Sense on your Pyramid.
xaccers said:
I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.
I absolutely love sense. I will only lose it for miui. When that happens
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.
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I use fancy animations, widgets and have seven full homescreens and I am on tmobile. Sense is smooth and zippy and I experience no lag or stutters.
Resource hog.... Wake me up when there's something I want to do on my phone but can't. Until then the resource hog statement has little value. Just like qudrant benchmarks for judging "performance"
Now people out there may have a situation where they are unable to do something with their phone, and if they removed sense and setup the exact same situation they'd be able to do it. Not hypotheticals. Actual instances tested and verified on both sense and nosense. But that's not what you usually read on the board.
What you usually read on the board are many many parrots with a few owls.
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What do u expect HTC to bring to the table wit sense 4.0 I heard the HTC edge is apost to have it .
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What do u expect HTC to bring to the table wit sense 4.0 I heard the HTC edge is apost to have it .
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
neidlinger said:
I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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I disagree. I go a full day of usage with sense and im ok. Sense makes the phone way better with all its eye candy and simplicity. AOSP roms are awesome but dull. I've had all sorts of vanilla roms and they bore me. Nothings beats the unlock screen of sense 3.0.
As far as sense 4.0? Idk, change in looks? And definitely change so it can mingle with ICS.
sense 4.0..User friendly, animated icons and adaptive to user use...
neidlinger said:
I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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Strongly disagree. I'm on sense and got 21 hours with a little over two hours of display time. And its as smooth as any cm7 based rom for me. Free ram is wasted ram.
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I disagree. I go a full day of usage with sense and im ok. Sense makes the phone way better with all its eye candy and simplicity. AOSP roms are awesome but dull. I've had all sorts of vanilla roms and they bore me. Nothings beats the unlock screen of sense 3.0.
As far as sense 4.0? Idk, change in looks? And definitely change so it can mingle with ICS.
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Strongly disagree. I'm on sense and got 21 hours with a little over two hours of display time. And its as smooth as any cm7 based rom for me. Free ram is wasted ram.
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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What "resources" are you referring to? Nothing more than RAM? I usually have about 130 mb of free ram on sense and can't tell a difference between that and a cm7 rom with 300 free mb. And what's so bad about the use of "resources" if you can still get great battery life and run a smooth rom?
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why come into a thread that's specifically about Sense, and tout your love of AOSP?
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What "resources" are you referring to? Nothing more than RAM? I usually have about 130 mb of free ram on sense and can't tell a difference between that and a cm7 rom with 300 free mb. And what's so bad about the use of "resources" if you can still get great battery life and run a smooth rom?
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Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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Yeah if I do a lot of multitasking I'll usually kill some apps using the built in task manager. But my whole point is, if I can't tell a difference between the speed and fluidity of the two in normal daily use, then why's it make a difference?
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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And its fun to ride but don't let your friends see you
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Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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What amount? It's FREE memory. The memory that doesn't get used, because the system kills the "aged" apps way before they reach anywhere close to memory boundaries. No multitasking will bring you to the boundaries of memory with that much free RAM, even if you keep 5 games open simultaneously (and they usually save state and drop from memory anyway, if they're programmed well).
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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We're listening.
Resource hog? Resources are there to be used, that's the whole point of having CPU- and graphically-strong phone with 768MB RAM and 400MB of system partition size. If I wanted to run AOSP, I'd stick with Nexus One, it was plenty enough for that.
The points were discussed MULTIPLE times:
AOSP dialer sucks badly, and no replacement out of the box is good enough and preserves full functionality under Gingerbread (clearing missed calls requires converting dialer to system app, and not all dialers support it). Dialer One lags badly with contact pics. Go Dialer EX has other bugs.
AOSP Email sucks just as bad. No moving mail between folders?
AOSP camera sucks big time.
AOSP lack of power controls in the notification bar sucks.
AOSP system interface is way uglier. Especially Gingerbread notification bar icons.
AOSP calendar sucks in its UI.
And you can't get those with any additions to the stock, because the additions mostly lack functionality and aren't well-integrated together.
Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with Sense 3. I'd like Sense to have better multilanguage support, though. And a customizable button or 2 in the dock bar. And some way to quickly pick a number for a contact with multiple numbers in dialer.
neidlinger said:
I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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literally the worst false analogy ive ever heard.
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What amount? It's FREE memory. The memory that doesn't get used, because the system kills the "aged" apps way before they reach anywhere close to memory boundaries. No multitasking will bring you to the boundaries of memory with that much free RAM, even if you keep 5 games open simultaneously (and they usually save state and drop from memory anyway, if they're programmed well).
We're listening.
Resource hog? Resources are there to be used, that's the whole point of having CPU- and graphically-strong phone with 768MB RAM and 400MB of system partition size. If I wanted to run AOSP, I'd stick with Nexus One, it was plenty enough for that.
The points were discussed MULTIPLE times:
AOSP dialer sucks badly, and no replacement out of the box is good enough and preserves full functionality under Gingerbread (clearing missed calls requires converting dialer to system app, and not all dialers support it). Dialer One lags badly with contact pics. Go Dialer EX has other bugs.
AOSP Email sucks just as bad. No moving mail between folders?
AOSP camera sucks big time.
AOSP lack of power controls in the notification bar sucks.
AOSP system interface is way uglier. Especially Gingerbread notification bar icons.
AOSP calendar sucks in its UI.
And you can't get those with any additions to the stock, because the additions mostly lack functionality and aren't well-integrated together.
Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with Sense 3. I'd like Sense to have better multilanguage support, though. And a customizable button or 2 in the dock bar. And some way to quickly pick a number for a contact with multiple numbers in dialer.
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Totally agree with everything you said. I always felt like AOSP would never be enough to make my friends with iPhones jealous just because of its dull appearance. I feel like Sense can do that though.
Also, what do you think about ICS in regards to all that criteria? From some of the stuff I've seen, vanilla ICS looks pretty impressive and I feel like it corrects a lot of the things I didn't like about stock GB and previous versions.
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I didn't check the ICS too thoroughly, and in the official presentation not even one of the points I was looking for were mentioned. I'll probably grab the SDK update and take a look at the emulator some time, but I'm not in a hurry I'm most interested in functional points like dialer, email and camera, and for checking those I'll need to work on that emulator a bit - which is why I'm lazy to do it.
+1 on Sense superiority. I've gone back and forth many times between AOSP and Sense, and while there are things I LOVE about AOSP/cm7, overall the experience packs less of an impact, as you guys said. When running Sense (now Sense 3.5), it just feels like I have higher quality software on my phone. And as I still get solid performance and battery life, it's worth the extra usage of resources.
Those concerned about resources should know that android operates just as fast with 300 MB of free ram as it does with 1 mb. It will use what it needs and has no iimpact on how much iis left over.
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Those concerned about resources should know that android operates just as fast with 300 MB of free ram as it does with 1 mb. It will use what it needs and has no iimpact on how much iis left over.
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Someone understands that this is not Windows... ;-)
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Is there any rom having sense 4.0?
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Someone understands that this is not Windows... ;-)
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And we are all greatful for it
Very tempted to get a HTC Ville when it comes out. Problem is it will run Sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Always have run vanilla. Played around with Sense enough to know I hate it, but never actually owned a Sense device so my knowledge of it is limited.
Question is, how well can I 'hide' it without rooting, since that won't be an option right away? I know I can do a lot by choosing alternates for the launcher, email, sms and contacts apps etc. but can I make Sense effectively unnoticable? Or does it permeate everything too deeply? And will Sense still be lurking around hogging system resources?
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Yes you can make sense unnoticable to the eyes by using alternative launchers and widgets. But, the overlay will still be there sucking up resources and battery life.
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I was afraid that would be the answer. Big-time bummer. Thanks for the quick reply.
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That's wrong you can get something like absolute system control for root and deinstall sense that's what I did with touchwizz. There'll also be Rom's without sense.
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That's wrong you can get something like absolute system control for root and deinstall sense that's what I did with touchwizz. There'll also be Rom's without sense.
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But I won't be able to root until the Ville is cracked and reliable, daily-use ready vanilla ROMs are developed. I'm trying to figure out what I can do to trash Sense until then, without root.
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nico53laval said:
That's wrong you can get something like absolute system control for root and deinstall sense that's what I did with touchwizz. There'll also be Rom's without sense.
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No buddy, it was not wrong. Read the OP. He said without rooting. And with absolute system all you can do is uninstall widgets. Sense is still there. The only true way to get rid of it is root and flash an aosp ROM....not deleting some widgets.
Hello guys,
I was just wondering, am running on a stable version of Android Revolution HD 3.1.16. Is there a way to remove htc sense? Also if htc sense is removed will i have a better battery life?
Thanks
Paul
paulos328 said:
Hello guys,
I was just wondering, am running on a stable version of Android Revolution HD 3.1.16. Is there a way to remove htc sense? Also if htc sense is removed will i have a better battery life?
Thanks
Paul
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Better battery life? Maybe - Assuming that you lose those weather widgets and twitter/facebook etc, that should help! Depends what you want gone though
As for removing sense, it's possible. Take a look around, there is tons of information with details on how to remove sense. It's even made easy for members such as yourself. You just flash and bam, sense gone!
Mike already makes a de sensed version.... download it
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Go to this thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Download this..
http://dev-host.org/51aery4eryrc/Pyramid3D_NoSense_Cleaner_1.0.zip
Read the instructions...
Flash ROM
Boot Phone
Reboot into recovery
Flash NoSense Script zip
U should be all set. I am using this from the 3rd day with custom ROM ( First 2 days used sense & felt like its useless to me).
This method worked like a charm for me with every GB ROM i tried & yes the phone feels wayyyyyy faster and better battery life from my experience. have Fun
Download htc supertool, and just press de-sense
Sent from my beastly Sensation running PyroMod MIUI---recommended rom from me.
Buy a SG2 or a S-Note.
Still not understand why people buy a Sensation where the Sense interface is an USP and then want to remove Sense......
It is the world upside down.
When you buy a car with an extra package of luxury, after delivery you also take it out and throw it away?
It is simple: before you buy decide you want Sense or not. According to your choice buy a phone with Sense or a brand which hasn't.
No offense by the way
Snah001 said:
Buy a SG2 or a S-Note.
Still not understand why people buy a Sensation where the Sense interface is an USP and then want to remove Sense......
It is the world upside down.
When you buy a car with an extra package of luxury, after delivery you also take it out and throw it away?
It is simple: before you buy decide you want Sense or not. According to your choice buy a phone with Sense or a brand which hasn't.
No offense by the way
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yeah your right other people buy samsung and the want sense on it why they don't they buy htc from the first place i don't get it )
You can take me as an example. I hate the looks of GSII, AMOLED screen doesn't look "right" to me, so I chose Sensation. Sense isn't useful (to me) so I removed most of it (lockscreen is just right for me).
If u don't like sense then why u bought sensation?
dullhunk said:
If u don't like sense then why u bought sensation?
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Because when I was ready to get a new phone, the only dual core phones available for my carrier were the LG G2X and Sensation. No SGS2 in the US at the time, so hey, I have a Sensation.
I did like Sense at first, but it gets old after a while. No problem. It's easy to remove the widgets and launcher, and since I'm not an AOSP purist, I don't mind using the Sense apps like mail, camera, etc.
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If u don't like sense then why u bought sensation?
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I like Sense widgets and apps, they provide great functionality and look nice. What I hate about sense is the launcher and useless 3D effects when switching from desktops or unlocking the phone
What is the main difference between using the no sense script and freezing sense launcher? The. Launcher seems to use all my ram and slow my phone down. No sense leaves me with a much faster phone but no working Lockscreen. Freezing sense desktop leaves me with a much faster phone and a working Lockscreen with caller I'd and answer/reject, incoming txt etc and 200 free on the ram. What does no sense script do other than remove sense desktop and Lockscreen?
Guys no need to flame here. The whole post was not an arguement of what we buy. I bought Sensation because i wanted to. Now i got bored of Sense thats it. I support HTC and not Samsung. I also support BMW not Mercedes. Thank you.
Paul
Ceed19 said:
What is the main difference between using the no sense script and freezing sense launcher? The. Launcher seems to use all my ram and slow my phone down. No sense leaves me with a much faster phone but no working Lockscreen. Freezing sense desktop leaves me with a much faster phone and a working Lockscreen with caller I'd and answer/reject, incoming txt etc and 200 free on the ram. What does no sense script do other than remove sense desktop and Lockscreen?
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The no-sense script that i mentioned and using, does not remove the lock screen. it keeps all the parts of the sense essential for super smooth operation of the phone& i get around 220-250 free ram available. With launcher pro plus my phone flies
I bought an HTC because it was in my price range and I liked it's ratings. However, I am having horrible battery life and whenever I look to see what is using the battery HTC Sense is always the number one drainer by a LOT so I am wondering if my battery life will improve by removing it? Can it be removed? What will the consequences to removing it be? Thanks in advance.
Laurabean113 said:
I bought an HTC because it was in my price range and I liked it's ratings. However, I am having horrible battery life and whenever I look to see what is using the battery HTC Sense is always the number one drainer by a LOT so I am wondering if my battery life will improve by removing it? Can it be removed? What will the consequences to removing it be? Thanks in advance.
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S-off using ganeshp's guide. Then just flash nosense or an AOSP ROM with an unsecured kernel to get better battery life by using badass governor.
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Laurabean113 said:
I bought an HTC because it was in my price range and I liked it's ratings. However, I am having horrible battery life and whenever I look to see what is using the battery HTC Sense is always the number one drainer by a LOT so I am wondering if my battery life will improve by removing it? Can it be removed? What will the consequences to removing it be? Thanks in advance.
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yeah Sense is a battery whore are you using the stock battery or an aftermarket battery? when I first traded to get the Senny, battery life was horrible with the stock battery. bought an Anker and got an extra 3-5 hours. changing kernels and radios will also help with battery life as well, but youll have to be rooted to do all that. Gotta be rooted to remove Sense as well. But if you remove it, you wont be able to use any of the HTC widgets and the Sense launcher(rosie) will be gone (install a different launcher first before removing Sense)