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Not using Sense?

My first Android phone was the Tmobile (US) G2, so I got used to the plain vanilla OS. When I got my Sensation 4G in June I was immediately put off by Sense, which in my opinion is inferior. To get closer to the stock feel I use Launcher Pro and this certainly helps, but I still see Sense running in the applications list. If I kill the process it momentarily gets removed from the list but is there again when I next check. I have read that this could be because Sense also controls the dialer and contacts, so my question is if I replace those functions with a 3rd party application will Sense be gone for good?

Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.

moh0 said:
Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
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I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.

How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!

Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.

webmaster said:
Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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Yes its definitely personal preference. It would take away the shine of having an android phone if you didn't use it. Android is very basic and the "normal" hope screens are boring compared to HTC Sense. Anyway i'm all for sense .

webmaster said:
Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!

I would like use Miui!
What do you knows about it when can we have it?
Maybe tomorrow

webmaster said:
I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
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Sense is a cpu/battery hog while its active. On android however, when apps are put into the background, they become inactive.
Now I'm not a developer so I may be wrong. I based this conclusion off this article which leedroid linked to in his rom: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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d.brown said:
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From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!
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NEED MIUI?

Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!

redbullcat said:
It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
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Both is better then other!

What's good in sence?
Use more efficiency?
Use more of battery?
Give you more what do you dont get from apk?
Or simple esay gold drog?
PLEASE explane me.
thx

I like using LauncherPro in place of Sense because you can add all the eye candy you want (even Sense looking eye-candy) without having to include the whole battery wasting, memory hogging, and gigantic Sense Eco-system.

Based on what appears to be confirmation that Sense is a memory/cpu/battery hog, will running an alternate launcher be sufficient to prevent this or do I need to somehow fully disable it?

Just use your launcher pro. Don't worry about sense, she won't bother you anymore.

I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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tomS01 said:
NEED MIUI?
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+1 on that

fr0zenblood75 said:
I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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Yeah, I had that problem too. I bought my phone yesterday and was up till dawn messing around with it. Launcher pro seems extremely laggy, so much so that sense was a welcome change. LP worked better on my magic!

Yeah well Launcher Pro is pretty much abandoned by the developer. Hasn't been updated once since at least october last year.
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Sense/No Sense?

I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay

Without sense I can't get on with Android

xaccers said:
Without sense I can't get on with Android
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Sense is the main reason i switched from iPhone to Android

Sense with amazing sense skin =]

I used to like sense. Then i tried Cyanogenmod 6 and never went back until i was forced to with the sensation.
Sense is slow and ugly. I prefer minimalistic.

I'd keep Sense launcher if it let me change basic things, like screens number, or dock shortcuts, or add a gesture or two — anything!
But it's all "pre-tuned" in rock for casual users' bliss, and I don't consider myself one. So I'm on LP, and the moment Pyramid has AOSP I'll lose sight of all these idiotically glossy bars and icons completely.

Sofar i have stayed with Sense.
Seems alot of work to get NoSense to work. But maybe when i have sometime over i would take a more closer look into it.
But i like the clock from Sense where i can get into the timer and alarm easy.

htc sensation cant live with no sense,,,,,,,,

ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.

samnada said:
ADW EX - much faster, more configurable. Sense is fluff to me, too much overhead, too restrictive, too much useless animation. Just my perspective.
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My Words!
No more sense for me, slow stuff
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No Sense bloat for me...I'm using Melvins Senseless Extreme rom & loving it!

Sense suckss
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Both are cool IMHO, but Sense looks a little too kitch for me, alternatives launcher like ADW is better for me .

I'm using the rooted stock ROM and stripped the hell out of it. Removed/replaced everything I could.
I don't even have the Rosie or Sense Lockscreen anymore, it's completely gone!

I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.

mrbkkt1 said:
I know...its the sense-ation but I prefer vanilla Android.
It is a beautiful overlay, but such a resource hog.
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I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.

CoreyRay said:
I have to say - After using my sensation with sense, then taking sense off using a ROM from PyramidHD. I have to disagree with alot of people that are saying they don't like sense.
Loving PyramidHD Blue Neon ROM (with sense)!
Many thanks to CDTdroid. Stay up man
-CoreyRay
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Unless you flashed one of the unstable AOSP ROMs, you've never used a ROM without Sense on your Pyramid.

xaccers said:
I think this is an example of how US carriers trash the phones.
Sense on my UK O2 isn't a resource hog at all, and is fast and smooth.
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.

I absolutely love sense. I will only lose it for miui. When that happens
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Not sure TMO US actually trashed the Sensation. There are some apps added and some removed, but without some acutal evidence it's not clear they modified Sense itself. Sense runs fine on my phone, but I have no use for fancy widgets, animation, or 7 home screens. Supporting all the useless graphics does use more resource than necessary, so in that sense it's a resource hog regardless of how smooth it is. With ADW I can set the phone up just the way I want. It's a shame HTC doesn't allow that level of customization.
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I use fancy animations, widgets and have seven full homescreens and I am on tmobile. Sense is smooth and zippy and I experience no lag or stutters.
Resource hog.... Wake me up when there's something I want to do on my phone but can't. Until then the resource hog statement has little value. Just like qudrant benchmarks for judging "performance"
Now people out there may have a situation where they are unable to do something with their phone, and if they removed sense and setup the exact same situation they'd be able to do it. Not hypotheticals. Actual instances tested and verified on both sense and nosense. But that's not what you usually read on the board.
What you usually read on the board are many many parrots with a few owls.
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Just bought a Sensation

So here's the deal. I just bought one, and I'm looking forward to developing for it.
A few questions first:
1. What kinds of roms do you like? and Why. I want to please my user base, as well as pick it.
2. What features are you missing from Sense, MIUI, AOSP, or whatever else the kids are using these days? (this includes things you see on other devices and wish you had on sensation, or things you think of yourselves)
3. What kinds of roms do you think have ABSOLUTELY no point; For example, I think a re-post of CM with a new kernel and a theme built-in is ridiculous... What do you think?
4. What do you prefer about a rom you flash on sensation? if you had to choose between battery and performance, which? if you had to choose between pretty theme/heavy apps or bare-bones cleanliness, which? This kind of relates to q1...
Before I start repeating myself, I'd just like to say that sensation has a bunch of amazing devs going for it, and has a unique look and a terrific user base, and I'm thrilled to be a part of it.
Please leave intelligent responses, to help make your device better!
Jcarrz1

Ok I will be the first hear. I have only had my Sensation since September 1st so I have not yet flashed a custom ROM to it. I am kind of giving the stock ROM a good trial run first.
I think since so many people, including me, are reporting touch screen issues, especially with pulling the ring up to unlock the device. You should really consider implumenting something that gives you a choice if you want to use the lock screen or not. Maybe a widget or a added choice in the settings to disable the lock screen. Or maybe even a G-Sensor operated lock screen, you know shake the device to unlock it.
I personally like the dialer UI of HTC Sense 3.0 and the text messaging in sense. I do not like the fact that you can not do what I call free scroll through your apps in the app tray. You have to scroll inn predefined blocks of 20 apps at a time. I personally like a bear bones ROM with a lot of downloadable add ons that you can install if you want. That way you can truly customize your device to suit you and you needs and likes.
I also think you should add a percentage meter that can be put in the status bar at the top cause the stock ROM does not have that option. I really like being able to see my battery percentage not just a battery with a green bar.
Also I miss the CyanogenMod settings in settings that I used in the Hyperdroid-CM7-v2.1.0 -HeadyHoneybadger ROM on my HD2.
I really am not to fond of the bottom launcher bar in the stock ROM either. I like the small launcher like the one in the above mentioned ROM so anything like that would be great.
A better music player than the default Android music player would be a plus also.
Last thing I can think of is something that will turn your WiFi off when you leave the WiFi area, say your home WiFi. And maybe even turns it on when you get back in range of your home WiFi network.
If I think of anything else I will post it here in this thread. Hope you get some more responses.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I prefer performance over battery. But not to the point that the battery will not last at least 8 hours

I'd choose a ROM that keeps Sense 3.0, intelligently overclocks the CPU to maximise performance when the phone is awake and being used, and underclocks it when the phone is asleep to maximise battery life. Another biggie for me would be a camera apk that reduces the compression and noise reduction that the stock Sense camera apk uses which cause Sensation photos and videos to lose sharpness. And I'd like Beats from the Sensation SE included too.
Over to you...
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I'd choose a ROM that keeps Sense 3.0, intelligently overclocks the CPU to maximise performance when the phone is awake and being used, and underclocks it when the phone is asleep to maximise battery life. Another biggie for me would be a camera apk that reduces the compression and noise reduction that the stock Sense camera apk uses which cause Sensation photos and videos to lose sharpness. And I'd like Beats from the Sensation SE included too.
Over to you...
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All of the above is already available.
To OP. Welcome to Pyramid forums.
It's very tough competition here mate, so good luck to you (no sarcasm).
To make ROM successful you'd have to make it unique or a lot better than others ( very, very hard to achieve) or both together.

Coming from the Mytouch 4g my favorite Roms were the Aosp Roms they are so light and quick with amazing battery. I would love one similar to fuax's aosp rom from the mytouch 4g. Also I'm a fan of better battery since I use my phone for music and internet all day!
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Oh - and...
1080p YouTube playback
MKV file playing
Visualiser for media player
If I think of more I'll be back, but you should have enough to keep you coding for a while
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ive had my phone for 3wks and just flashed HD Revolution but stripped it with a viperMod [hated the TMobile and HTC widgets] and loving it so far
the only problem for me is the yukky battery life but its far superior to my HD2, can do so much more with it
my advice is to flash Recovery and jump right in

Miui.
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tinky1 said:
All of the above is already available.
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Really? Awesome news! Which ROM has them all?
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Any ROM really, with add ons available. I.personally recommend InsertCoin 2.2.5 SSE
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Really? Awesome news! Which ROM has them all?
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I would like to see a Sense 3.0 ROM, but super fast (if that's possible) by removing useless junk and optimizations and **** (I'm currently using InsertCoin and it is fast, but it would be awesome to see iOS or WP7 responsiveness)
¤Violets are red,
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[Q] anyone know if there is a way to put sense 3 or 3.5 on the samsung roms?

i like everything about this phone but the ui

then you shouldn't have gotten the phone .. and this is a Q and should not be in the dev section

cjindustry said:
i like everything about this phone but the ui
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seeing as u have 98 posts u should know by know where to post... smh

cjindustry said:
i like everything about this phone but the ui
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Then you should've gone HTC... Normally we're not like this. Post things in the right section and we're much nicer.

You did try the phone before you bought it, right?

1. Print this out.
2. Acquire scotch tape
3. Tape to phone
4. ?????
5. Profit!

cjindustry said:
i like everything about this phone but the ui
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well do you just want the launcher and widgets or the whole set of menus dialer and more?
you can use 3rd party apps like go contacts and launcher pro and go weather or beautiful widgets or fancy widget and replace the lock screen with a market ap but to port the ui takes work both ui's have some kernel integration and the phones use completely different hardware so it takes a lot of work from experienced developers and none here have any interest in that. best i can tell you is to buy a sensation or it's canadia equivelant if you are not satisfied with market app.
though i do like mikeys suggestion.

I prefer Mikey's suggestion, agree with Dani's and suggest you look at how the proposed Sense port went for the original sgs and then come back......

I used Sense with Cookie's improvments. The GO Launcher and ALL of its addons are actually far superior - then add 2 quicklauncher - and this phone DESTROYS sense. Just a bit more work to get all assembled - but its all there and WAY MORE.

bsw11 said:
I used Sense with Cookie's improvments. The GO Launcher and ALL of its addons are actually far superior - then add 2 quicklauncher - and this phone DESTROYS sense. Just a bit more work to get all assembled - but its all there and WAY MORE.
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Thanks BSW11 for your feedback I'll try that

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I LOL'D! HAHA
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Getting TRUE sense UI on samsung based rom is (impossible??). Porting them is a lot harder then anyone might think.

sense is very heavy. i remember even 2 years ago on windows mobile phones it consisted of thousands of files. and it seems to only have gotten more bloated. its definitely not impossible, but its so intertwined with the framework, it would take alot of work. htc is not going to make it easy.

Bandit_Kaine said:
Getting TRUE sense UI on samsung based rom is (impossible??). Porting them is a lot harder then anyone might think.
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yeah I didn't know.. I know they port all the time from htc to htc so didnt know how it was from htc to another model or another model to htc.. the sense 3.5 for my inspire was great but the phone button broke, so i got the samsung infuse until the next htc came out.. I do however like some of the feedback i got and with a few free apps from the market ive got it dialed in with the htc looks without the battery cpu and mem hog.. may just get the galaxy 2 and mod it the same way and see if i can hold off on the htc.. but i hear the htc holiday aka raider is going to be amazing

Benefits to desensing?

I asked this in a rom thread but I think this is a better place for it. What are the benefits to desensing? Is it just a personal preference or does it give other benefits?
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Kindatired said:
I asked this in a rom thread but I think this is a better place for it. What are the benefits to desensing? Is it just a personal preference or does it give other benefits?
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Its all preference. However you may find some of the sense apps more to your liking. Such as the camera, email, and SMS. You can download Cleanrom DE. It is a desensed ROM. Basically and Aosp look with the sense apps.

Several roms have the option to desense I was just curious if there was other benefits such as better battery life or if removing sense which is known to be somewhat of a resource hog would give a better multitasking experience.
I like sense, but wouldn't want to give up a longer battery life for it.
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I get about the same battery life on stock and aokp 1.3
In excited to try viperxl this weekend though
Sent from the abstraction layer.

I am using the viper xl rom right now. It has a few small glitches but it's without a doubt the best xl rom out there right now.
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Kindatired said:
Several roms have the option to desense I was just curious if there was other benefits such as better battery life or if removing sense which is known to be somewhat of a resource hog would give a better multitasking experience.
I like sense, but wouldn't want to give up a longer battery life for it.
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YMMV, but CleanROM 4.5 DE definitely has slightly better performance and battery life than CR4.5 and stock because of the debloating/desensing.
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Kindatired said:
I asked this in a rom thread but I think this is a better place for it. What are the benefits to desensing? Is it just a personal preference or does it give other benefits?
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I believe it is preference. I go through phases where I love sense but I have also gone through phase where I have gotten bored of it. It really depends on what you wish to use.
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Hey guys,
I have an unlocked & rooted One XL on Telstra.
I am using the stock ROM until i have sussed stable custom ROMs.
I however dont like sense, and am using Apex Pro Launcher.
Im finding that unlocking from sleep & even switching between screens and apps it sometimes stutters.
Sense was actually a smoother experience.
Would this be that sense is still underlying in the background?
If so, can it be removed / disabled whilst on stock ROM?
Any tips on getting the UI to operate more smoothly?

Wobzy said:
Would this be that sense is still underlying in the background?
If so, can it be removed / disabled whilst on stock ROM?
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Sense has not gone anywhere... It is still there, you're just using a different launcher. There is an option in Apex to "Keep in memory" in the advanced settings that you could try enabling. You could also try a custom rom like RebelROM, CleanROM, Nocturnal Xi40, or Viper XL, all of which offer a "desensing" option to remove a good chunk of sense while keeping the sweet camera working.

denversc said:
Sense has not gone anywhere... It is still there, you're just using a different launcher. There is an option in Apex to "Keep in memory" in the advanced settings that you could try enabling. You could also try a custom rom like RebelROM, CleanROM, Nocturnal Xi40, or Viper XL, all of which offer a "desensing" option to remove a good chunk of sense while keeping the sweet camera working.
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Understood. I know sense is still there. Being new to android im still trying to understand the relationships behind these things.
IE; sense is still running / slowing **** down despite not using it as my launcher?
Are there any good tutorials on sense, what it is, what it does?
Ive searched the forums but cant find anything.
As an android newbie im taking my mates advice and not messing about with any ROMs until i have a better understanding.
Until then i guess i just wanna 'desense' as much as i can on the stock rom.

Wobzy said:
Understood. I know sense is still there. Being new to android im still trying to understand the relationships behind these things.
IE; sense is still running / slowing **** down despite not using it as my launcher?
Are there any good tutorials on sense, what it is, what it does?
Ive searched the forums but cant find anything.
As an android newbie im taking my mates advice and not messing about with any ROMs until i have a better understanding.
Until then i guess i just wanna 'desense' as much as i can on the stock rom.
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Sense is more than just the launcher. Its also apps (like camera, Locations, Watch, Stocks, Weather, Music player), widgets, keyboard, and overall theming done by HTC. Plus the Sense framework is embedded in the ROM itself, so that is why Sense components (like the camera) can't be ported to AOSP ROMs. So that is what is meant by "Sense is still there" if you just replace certain components, or use a different launcher.
By replacing the launcher, you won't have the Sense launcher taking up memory (3rd party launchers are often smaller footprint). But really, this phone is powerful enough memory and CPU wise, that the difference in just replacing the launcher is negligible. On older phones (like my old Desire Z) it made a big difference. And the battery drain by Sense is also going to be negligible compared to things that suck up much more power, such as screen on time, downloading/streaming data, etc. So on this phone, its largely about personal preference.

Wobzy said:
Hey guys,
I have an unlocked & rooted One XL on Telstra.
I am using the stock ROM until i have sussed stable custom ROMs.
I however dont like sense, and am using Apex Pro Launcher.
Im finding that unlocking from sleep & even switching between screens and apps it sometimes stutters.
Sense was actually a smoother experience.
Would this be that sense is still underlying in the background?
If so, can it be removed / disabled whilst on stock ROM?
Any tips on getting the UI to operate more smoothly?
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Hey mate I'm on Telstra too. I'm using the ViperXL rom and it's really good! You can have it with or without Sense.

redpoint73 said:
But really, this phone is powerful enough memory and CPU wise, that the difference in just replacing the launcher is negligible. On older phones (like my old Desire Z) it made a big difference. And the battery drain by Sense is also going to be negligible compared to things that suck up much more power, such as screen on time, downloading/streaming data, etc. So on this phone, its largely about personal preference.
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Cheers for that. Understood.
Also, i had a problem in my first month with data.
So i downloaded My Data Manager.
OS services uses more than 50% of my data. Approx 1mb per hour.
I googled it, i got a lot of different responses.
What is OS services and why is it chewing my data, what do i need to turn off?
Also as i was looking online for answers, WhatsApp had jumped from less than 1mb, to 11.1mb in less than 5 minutes.
I havent used WhatsApp in days. Its not possible to change permissions through the app but i have read that i can download an app to manually change specific app permissions?
Timmaa thanks for the heads up on viper, i came across is before but had asked a friend more knowledgable than myself and he said id be better off to wait for CM?

Wobzy said:
Timmaa thanks for the heads up on viper, i came across is before but had asked a friend more knowledgable than myself and he said id be better off to wait for CM?
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I used to use CM, but I find viper to be excellent. Actually, it's amazing. It's stable and has an arsenal of tweaks. The best one out there IMHO. But that's just my opinion, and your mate has one too. Unfortunately all you'll find on here is opinions, the best way to know is to flash it for yourself and see what you think as everyone has different needs etc when it comes to what they want from a ROM.
Oh but by the way, ViperXL has Sense 4.1 which is so much faster than the 4.0 on stock ROM. Supposedly uses less battery too. And the updated camera4.5 takes much better photos, they're superb!
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As for the data I'm not sure, I've been using a data tracker and found some weird results too. Apparent my dialer has been using a lot of data, which I just don't understand.
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timmaaa said:
As for the data I'm not sure, I've been using a data tracker and found some weird results too. Apparent my dialer has been using a lot of data, which I just don't understand.
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LOL :laugh: too good.
Yeah WhatsApp jumped up another 22MB out of nowhere, the app isnt even running.
Stopping the application does nothing.
I've had a look at Viper i think after i back up im gonna give it a go.

Wobzy said:
LOL :laugh: too good.
Yeah WhatsApp jumped up another 22MB out of nowhere, the app isnt even running.
Stopping the application does nothing.
I've had a look at Viper i think after i back up im gonna give it a go.
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Nice work, you won't be disappointed mate. I also just got Google Now working, it's pretty good!
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