Database Info

Not using Sense?

My first Android phone was the Tmobile (US) G2, so I got used to the plain vanilla OS. When I got my Sensation 4G in June I was immediately put off by Sense, which in my opinion is inferior. To get closer to the stock feel I use Launcher Pro and this certainly helps, but I still see Sense running in the applications list. If I kill the process it momentarily gets removed from the list but is there again when I next check. I have read that this could be because Sense also controls the dialer and contacts, so my question is if I replace those functions with a 3rd party application will Sense be gone for good?

Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.

moh0 said:
Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.

How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!

Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.

webmaster said:
Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes its definitely personal preference. It would take away the shine of having an android phone if you didn't use it. Android is very basic and the "normal" hope screens are boring compared to HTC Sense. Anyway i'm all for sense .

webmaster said:
Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+ 1
From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!

I would like use Miui!
What do you knows about it when can we have it?
Maybe tomorrow

webmaster said:
I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sense is a cpu/battery hog while its active. On android however, when apps are put into the background, they become inactive.
Now I'm not a developer so I may be wrong. I based this conclusion off this article which leedroid linked to in his rom: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

d.brown said:
+ 1
From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NEED MIUI?

Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!

redbullcat said:
It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Both is better then other!

What's good in sence?
Use more efficiency?
Use more of battery?
Give you more what do you dont get from apk?
Or simple esay gold drog?
PLEASE explane me.
thx

I like using LauncherPro in place of Sense because you can add all the eye candy you want (even Sense looking eye-candy) without having to include the whole battery wasting, memory hogging, and gigantic Sense Eco-system.

Based on what appears to be confirmation that Sense is a memory/cpu/battery hog, will running an alternate launcher be sufficient to prevent this or do I need to somehow fully disable it?

Just use your launcher pro. Don't worry about sense, she won't bother you anymore.

I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

tomS01 said:
NEED MIUI?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 on that

fr0zenblood75 said:
I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I had that problem too. I bought my phone yesterday and was up till dawn messing around with it. Launcher pro seems extremely laggy, so much so that sense was a welcome change. LP worked better on my magic!

Yeah well Launcher Pro is pretty much abandoned by the developer. Hasn't been updated once since at least october last year.
Sent from my Leedroid Sensational Htc Sensation!

MT4GS HTC Sense 2.1 ROM + 3.0 features (i.e Lockscreen, weather videos, etc.)

Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA

Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

Undeadk9 said:
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )

You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?

Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
Sent from my MyTouch 4G Slide using XDA App

I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.

Sinfamy said:
I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...

Anthonayy said:
Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
Sent from my Undeadk9's Senseless ROM using xda premium

Undeadk9 said:
The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
Sent from my Undeadk9's Senseless ROM using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
Sent from my Undeadk9's Senseless ROM using xda premium

In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.

Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.

unclespoon said:
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.

Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.

So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?

cal3thousand said:
"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
Sent from my MyTouch 4G Slide using xda premium

[Q] Whats the difference between sense 3.0 and 3.5?

Tried to search for this on the forums but didn't find anything.
So...
What is the difference between sense 3.0 and sense 3.5? (except the .5)

GUI graphics have changed, menus have been rearranged a little bit, bit quicker to access certain functionality, as well as new features added.
If you want my opinion, go for 3.5, its a lot better.

zeekiz said:
GUI graphics have changed, menus have been rearranged a little bit, bit quicker to access certain functionality, as well as new features added.
If you want my opinion, go for 3.5, its a lot better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What??!! No sarcasm!! Zeekiz, you're losing your edge bro...
I'd have to agree with that though. Go for Sense 3.5.
As for the diffenences between 3 and 3.5, Google, and YouTube.

The differences are very subtle, but why go for vista now that windows 7 is out?
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium

enigmaamit said:
What??!! No sarcasm!! Zeekiz, you're losing your edge bro...
I'd have to agree with that though. Go for Sense 3.5.
As for the diffenences between 3 and 3.5, Google, and YouTube.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I googled for differences between the two and found lots of pages talking about the official/declared changes.
I was hoping to get some "under the hood" info from the forum folk.

blu3zy said:
I googled for differences between the two and found lots of pages talking about the official/declared changes.
I was hoping to get some "under the hood" info from the forum folk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lets use some analogies here. The difference between sense 3 and sense 3.5 is the same as a woman, she may be wearing the latest clothes as the woman next to her wearing older clothes, but underneath those clothes she still has those "desirable" (see what I did there?) lady parts.
Basically, 3.5 is sense 3.0, just with a fancy new dress.

Sense 3.5 is much faster for me. UI of certain apps finally look beautiful which makes the whole Sense the best UI out there. Just my opinion.

ben_pyett said:
The differences are very subtle, but why go for vista now that windows 7 is out?
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quote.............................

2.1 -> 3.0 -> 3.5 evolve
I have used stock Sense 2.1 for over a half year till i rooted and tried out Runny S(Sense 3.5) the change was stunning.
After using (testing) more and more ROMs, mainly through more iterations of updates(3.0 like Voidu, Hyperion and 3.5 Runny S, Endymion) i have seen that the changes are not only visual, but e.g. the Sense 3.5 gallery is much faster and the improvement is huge in my opinion (miss it a lot right now on CM7.1).
Next i seen is the camera app, as i take a lot of pictures with phone (only in common days ), i realized it has many new features, that makes your phone even more usable as a everyday camera.
I suggest you try the Endymion(3.5, really fast, stable, many features), which is almost as stable and fast as Hyperion(3.0, fast, stable, good battery). Maybe try both and see for yourself, which has better experience for you.

3.5 not drain to much battery?
i want to try Endymion rom, this is a good choice?

ceptrus said:
3.5 not drain to much battery?
i want to try Endymion rom, this is a good choice?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery drain on Sense ROM depends on your mobile usage ! (you can use it an entire day with a normal use without any problem)
But Endymion is really good choice !

ceptrus said:
3.5 not drain to much battery?
i want to try Endymion rom, this is a good choice?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IMO, I don't think there is a noticeable difference in terms of battery life.
And Endymion is your best ROM to use for Sense ATM.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

endymion instaled and i have to say that i love it
thanks

[Q] Disable Sense 3.0

So i've just come from a GS2 to a Sensation XE and i'm adjusting back to the sense way of life(i used to have a Desire).
Unfortunately i'm not adjusting too well is there a way to disable sense totally to use a launcher as i'm not to keen on rooting it just yet.

Darkwun said:
So i've just come from a GS2 to a Sensation XE and i'm adjusting back to the sense way of life(i used to have a Desire).
Unfortunately i'm not adjusting too well is there a way to disable sense totally to use a launcher as i'm not to keen on rooting it just yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just download which ever launcher you choose then download an app called home switcher. It will allow you to easily enable the launcher app and set it up as your defeault launcher.

Darkwun said:
So i've just come from a GS2 to a Sensation XE and i'm adjusting back to the sense way of life(i used to have a Desire).
Unfortunately i'm not adjusting too well is there a way to disable sense totally to use a launcher as i'm not to keen on rooting it just yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sense is not just a launcher, so you can't just disable it. You can put a launcher over Sense though.
But I would suggest putting a custom ROM and removing all the annoying parts of Sense, while keeping the good ones. No-sense script from Revolution HD does that quite well

hmm looks like i'm gonna have to read up on rooting then go for it.
Can anyone suggest any stable highly rated ROMs? Between reading up on how to root and custom ROMs available my head is starting to hurt
TIA

You don't like sense so I recommend Cyanogenmod.. It's stable and fast. I use MIUI and love it but there is some parts not fully working yet.

CM is for you if you want 100% of Sense removed. But if you want a bit more "stock" experience, try Revolution HD 4.X with no-sense.
Heck, try both, or more, you'll learn a lot and figure out what you really like. It's actually quite simple once you get the basics

tapi85 said:
You don't like sense so I recommend Cyanogenmod.. It's stable and fast. I use MIUI and love it but there is some parts not fully working yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i was reading about the Cyanogenmod and it's looking like the front runner but i'm sure it's only at alpha stage or am i'm looking in the wrong place?

Darkwun said:
i was reading about the Cyanogenmod and it's looking like the front runner but i'm sure it's only at alpha stage or am i'm looking in the wrong place?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got it on my phone and its very stable!

a4ol said:
I got it on my phone and its very stable!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Launcher Pro seems to work very fine. i suggest you give it a go

Definitely go with CM7. It's the best ROM available.

Most stable and fastest Sense 4 ROM?

I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?

Dunno about its the best and most stable but I works very good:
[ROM][Sense 4.0][MAR.25] OrDroid 1.7.2 | Fast & Stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551714
only thing there is bodering me is those arrows in the bottum when the qwerty pinboard is up :/

I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a bit contradictory don't you think?

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive

brandonair95 said:
I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm trying to find this out too???
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

most of them have bluetooth problem ...

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that's what I say to everyone:
without sense is not an htc!....is just another phone, like others...only who have an htc deserves sense!...
I understood sense after months...is so elegant, so beautiful, useful, you got everything under your finger...fast, veeery smooth, more than all other launchers, and very stable...
social integration, widgets, animation...everything STOCK!...
yesterday I tried ordroid....I think that roms are not enough stable, even if BT is the only bug...but is awesome, very very nice feel and look...is much better than 3.6, but the launcher is a bit laggy

about sense 4.0
I used Ordroid 1.72 sense 4.0, i really like it but my battery is ending to fast, i have the newest firmware, like 12 hours and i need to recharge again, anyone knows why ?

Think Ordroid is Most stabile out there and baads IC. Besids Bt, everything is fine, But i prefer 3.6, more smooth
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA

Is there any sense 4 rom with working Bluetooth?
Sent From My HTC Sensation 4G

If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
Have a nice day

beston94 said:
If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
Have a nice day
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.

n7of9 said:
every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To add to this, a bunch of non-HTC users can't all be wrong. I have a number of friends with various other brands of phone, and whatever other good points they might like about their phone, the one thing they most often comment on is how much they like the look and feel of Sense compared to whatever is on their phone.
Yes personal preference is fine, yes Sense is not going to be 100% perfect, but I'll take 90% over 70% any day. Who knows, maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?

goatee84 said:
maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference

n7of9 said:
i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not so much the speed for me, but the visual lag. on AOSP-senseless my framerate is a constant 60 FPS, which is good, really smooth. On Sense 3.6, 4.0, whatever, I've dipped to 15 FPS before. Like, the homescreen is decently smooth but my Music Queue is ridiculously laggy.
On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless, I don't care what anyone says.

sshede said:
On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??

n7of9 said:
how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've run a couple of different launchers on Sense ROMs and they are just that...different. They can be faster, and the ability to customise more (transition animations and the like) is a plus, but if you crank all the settings up and choose the most complex animations you are bound to create some lag. My first thought on using a new launcher was "wow this is so much smoother and faster" but once I started delving into all the different options I realised quite a few of those things are default and unchangeable on Sense whilst the custom launchers come a bit more 'stripped back'.
I'm currently using GO Launcher but not because I didn't like Sense, and GO Launcher has been fun but it's certainly presented its own issues. I'm actually considering going back to Sense for a while.

one80oneday said:
Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OrDroid with Bricked kernel, had longest battery life for me.