i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
cheers
Ep1cF4il said:
i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
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cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.
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cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.
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it would indeed seem that way. just pulled the cm sources to see if adding a new device wasn't too hard a task and it seems there already has been some work done towards porting it to the saga (aka desire s). finally some good news
Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.
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Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.
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as do i...
rubbish said:
...Really look forward to getting rid of Sense...
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as do i...
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too
Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )
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for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too
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NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
I sold NexuS because I missed some of the sense things:
the stock dialer has NO t9 search - most dialer from market are crap or slow or somehow frickled on the stock dialer. Even old nokia do have a quick search option...
Stock contacts are ugly.
GAL (global adress list for exchange server) is NOT implemented in android 2.x - only in 3.0; but it's implemented since sense1 (hero)
CM had some issues - espacially with the notification bar/speed settings - on 2.3 - the new sense 3.0 lockscreen and notification bar are very good - so no need for CM at the moment - for _me_
So I deleted most of sense.apk from /system on my DesireS (all widgets, all "htc", like route66, amazon, stockexchange..) and do use adw-launcher instead of rosie (don't delete it cause is needed for lockscreen settings!) - but do have integrated company exchange and a good biult in dialer, cool contacts (with flickr and fb content) and nice lockscreen..
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NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
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there was one thing i didn't like about the nexus s. had i been able to use my 32GB microsd card, i would've gone for the nexus s.
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Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )
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Sense is THE BEST ANDROID UI, EVAR. Don't know why people wanna "DE-SENSE" their phones. I'm gonna flash CM7 to see what the fuss is about , but sense 3.0 first Hopefully, the new official version of CM7 will come for DS too. I'd rather let the ports pass on...........
to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^
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In my case I obviously liked the phone much enough to neglect my dislike towards Sense
I don't complain about having Sense and can live with it but would prefer to run clean Android build when/if it becomes available.
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to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^
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That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!
shrome99 said:
That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!
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i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS
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i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS
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I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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had there been better WebOS devices on the market, i would probably have bought one of those instead. i've been told that app development is a lot easier than on any other platform. and as soon as i get some time, i might just look into writing apps for android.
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There's plenty of HTC phones out there that are running custom ROMs and customised user interfaces that don't rely on Sense. It may be the "out of the box experience" as far as most HTC phones are concerned, but isn't that what all THIS (ie these forums) is about - customisations, and thinking "out of the box"? (no pun intended, haha).
If we all concentrated on Sense and variations on that theme then this community would be a much poorer one.
Peace
sense ftw!
Well, i love sense, but i am porting the cm7 just so people have the choose, and also to make the development on this device more alive
But personally, Sense is the thing!
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I would love to see the HTC sense UI for cyanogenmod5. I'm a big fan of the clock widget off KiNgxKxKlair DroidEris2G1. Could this work?
No it can't not.
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I would love to see the HTC sense UI for cyanogenmod5. I'm a big fan of the clock widget off KiNgxKxKlair DroidEris2G1. Could this work?
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Try Beautiful Widgets, and no the Sense UI and Cy mod are not capable together. Maybe the kernel will sometime but not the actual rom. BTW major off with the section try Q&A next time before you get flamed hard.
possible Yes the other way around
you can have an htc rom and "some stuff from Cyanogenmod like video cam possibly BT
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you can have an htc rom and "some stuff from Cyanogenmod like video cam possibly BT
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If that worked, don't you think we'd already have done it?
thanks for the reply's so fast.
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wow we have a tuff guy on the forums here. But thanks for the reply's so fast from the other adults.
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This is development. You had an extremely simple question that could've been answered in cm's thread, or better yet in Q&A if you insist that your question is important enough to warrant it's own thread. Respect gets respect, even on the internet.
Proto is right, if this was possible somebody would've already done it ten times.
ugh 12 post noob. damn. no this isnt possible.
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If that worked, don't you think we'd already have done it?
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No because it's so much easier to port a whole ROM over than it is to do a hybrid. Theoretically, it would be possible to take the frameworks of Sense and apply them to the source.
Besides, your analogy seems kind of flawed. It's like saying a few days ago, "If it was possible to get full 3D and Video Acceleration on 2.1 we would've already done it." And all it took was one very dedicated and intelligent coder named Cyanogen doing it.
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No because it's so much easier to port a whole ROM over than it is to do a hybrid. Theoretically, it would be possible to take the frameworks of Sense and apply them to the source.
Besides, your analogy seems kind of flawed. It's like saying a few days ago, "If it was possible to get full 3D and Video Acceleration on 2.1 we would've already done it." And all it took was one very dedicated and intelligent coder named Cyanogen doing it.
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agreed. probably possible.. but whats the use?
Even if it was possible we have to remember it has been out for two days and is an experimental rom. NOBODY wants to work for a few hours for a couple days only to have a new, more stable rom come out that could potentially break the work they just finished. They would rather have a rom that is "stable" and won't be replaced within days (Meaning yes, a long-term rom that won't be updated for 2+ weeks).
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agreed. probably possible.. but whats the use?
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What's the use? To get the best rom possible No?
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What's the use? To get the best rom possible No?
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By the time that happens we will have all discarded our G1's. Do remember people do this as a hobby not for a job, that's for actual devs that do it for a job.
Here are some sense similar apps:
-Weather wid donate
-Hero Settings widgets
-Pandahero
-GDE+Hero theme
-Pure widget series(Cal,music,etc) by Koxx
HTC evo can run (out of the box) stock android w/ nexus launcher and all.
http://htcdev.net/topic/11584-sprint-evo-4g-working-without-sense-ui/
I don't know if this has been posted before, since I'm in a rush to prom I havent been able to check. anyways, htc has done another thing right. yay! haha
1. There is already a topic about this.
2. There is NO WAY to run the phone without Sense UI without installing a custom ROM. Sense UI is highly integrated into the OS. The video that you see is the EVO running launcher2.apk instead of Rosie.apk (the Sense home app). This is nothing new or exciting, so I wish people would stop making damn topics about it.
Hey man, you gotta understand i didnt search and couldnt search. Also, i know you cant completely replace sense ui on a stock rom but some people like the launcher2.apk better. So sorry for double posting bud
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Sense FTW. Me no likey regular android homescreen . Ah well. If you wanna fly MiGs.. You fly MiG Alley. If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
Sense FTW. Me no likey regular android homescreen . Ah well. If you wanna fly MiGs.. You fly MiG Alley. If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
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I always used to hate sense, but then after looking very close at this phone, I have to admit i love it now! Just getting more and more psyched for this phone every time i see it. I think if everyone took their time to look in to sense ui, they would end up liking it a lot like myself.
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I always used to hate sense, but then after looking very close at this phone, I have to admit i love it now! Just getting more and more psyched for this phone every time i see it. I think if everyone took their time to look in to sense ui, they would end up liking it a lot like myself.
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For many this is true. For others, I suspect there are multiple motivations for wanting a pure android. I suspect most fall into one or more of 3 categories.
They may want pure as the driven snow Open Source Android
They might want as few of what they don't need as possible for increased resources
They simply don't like the HTC and it's prettiness
To each his own. As long as you're on Android, we are on the same side. Viva La Evo! Viva Android! Death to Apple!
I like Android Sense. Makes the transition from WM6.5 Sense a lot smother for me
I dont think anyone would deny that fact that Sense looks amazing. I just want to shut it off to save my battery. From what i hear, sense is quite the juice hog.
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Hey man, you gotta understand i didnt search and couldnt search. Also, i know you cant completely replace sense ui on a stock rom but some people like the launcher2.apk better. So sorry for double posting bud
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what do you mean you couldn't search? at this moment their are only 4 threads in this section, all you had to do was open your eyes.
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I dont think anyone would deny that fact that Sense looks amazing. I just want to shut it off to save my battery. From what i hear, sense is quite the juice hog.
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You won't save much battery if you turn Sense off. Unless you just have pages full of self updating widgets or something.
love the 2.1 UI.im GOING for that instead of the SENSE
Yeah... I'm looking forward to a stock froyo EVO as soon as possible... best of luck to those with the skill to make it happen
Or at least sense with the stock 2.2 launcher. I actually like the default contacts and messaging apps for sense. Not to mention the clock is way better too, and camera has tap to focus. One thing AOSP has for me though is the look, the white and orange are very appeasing for some reason.
im jus hopeing HTC keeps their promise of updating the SUPERSONIC in july to FROYO 2.2(love the UI).gonna love the phone even more.
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im jus hopeing HTC keeps their promise of updating the SUPERSONIC in july to FROYO 2.2(love the UI).gonna love the phone even more.
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I don't think they promised anything at any date, other than that most handsets made after 2010 will get 2.2... no specific dates were set..maybe i am wrong and please link me if i am..
Nvm found the answer.
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... If you want HTC sexiness, you gotta get Sense
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hhmm, goofy quote, I'll say that.
HTC Sense is "attractive", but not for everyone.
The first time I played with Sense was on a Hero ROM on my G1. Then again with the Desire ROM on my Nexus.
Even with the Nexus speed increase, it was definitely NOT sexy.
I really like the Plain Jane look of Android™ raw.
setite said:
For many this is true. For others, I suspect there are multiple motivations for wanting a pure android. I suspect most fall into one or more of 3 categories.
They may want pure as the driven snow Open Source Android
They might want as few of what they don't need as possible for increased resources
They simply don't like the HTC and it's prettiness
To each his own. As long as you're on Android, we are on the same side. Viva La Evo! Viva Android! Death to Apple!
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si si, Viva la EVO y la Android, death to Apple?
But I like picking on my iPhoney friends!!!
Social fans, get ready!
I don't like sense. Yust my opinion, but you were asking for it right
I do like some features of it, but mostly i like my ROM clean (like CM)
No, I was asking if you think it's Sense 3.0 on that screenshot.
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No, I was asking if you think it's Sense 3.0 on that screenshot.
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Ok, then is was misinterpreting
If it indeed is Sense 3.0, i have no idea. But is looks like an original. If i am right, the Sense interface is protected by HTC.
looks like the same sense that is used on the Desire Z/HD
With my understanding should be sense 2.0?
That's photoshop'd - why would HTC put new Sense on a Wildfire before any of the high end devices??
It could be a custom creation, but i doubt it that HTC would like that.
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That's photoshop'd - why would HTC put new Sense on a Wildfire before any of the high end devices??
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That's not Wildfire, but Wildfire 2.
As for Sense, there are distinguishing features on launcher:
1. 1.0 -> Up arrow | Phone | Plus button
2. 2.0 -> Up arrow | Phone | Customization button
3. ?3.0 -> List button | Phone | Customization button
Of course, it could be updated Sense 2, maybe 2.5.
Still doesn't mean it's not super imposed onto it does it?
Promo videos always show things off that aren't real
looks like it could be more of a hack than an update (or photoshop as suggested)
No, not fake:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-wildfire-2-spotted-promotional-video
Saw this pic as well might just be a lower end version on new sense or 3.0
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No, not fake:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-wildfire-2-spotted-promotional-video
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So you believe everything you see on TV and in the movies??
As I said, likely to be super-imposed - until I see a functioning handset and video proof I'll assume it's not real
Also without optical trackpad like the new desire 2, too bad i don't use it often but sometimes i really need it.
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looks like it could be more of a hack than an update (or photoshop as suggested)
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why would HTC do that? That >>Video<< was posted under their official account on youtube...
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why would HTC do that? That >>Video<< was posted under their official account on youtube...
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I only just saw that and came back to this thread to put that link up myself!
Didn't see the ad/know about it till just now
It's pretty clear it ain't fake. So the only question remains: Is it upgraded Sense 2 or brand new Sense 3? We will find out after week or so.
Sense "2.0" most likely.
Seriously, what makes this real?? Heard of concept designs??
As I said, until I see a fully working handset being demo'd in a video I will consider this a marketing venture and nothing more. You guys keep believing it's real...it's like me editing a home screen and taking a picture and going "yeah look at my new Sense 20.1"
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Sense "2.0" most likely.
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Could be, however after scouring the internet for articles about weather the origional HTC Desire was going to get the HTC Desire HD Sense update, I couldn't find a thing. So I did what no one dares do, and sent an E-Mail to HTC. Surprisingly, this is the reply I got.
Dear Michael James Stott,
Thank you for contacting HTC, regarding the HTC Sense.
Sense at the moment is only incorporated into our newer devices as we aim to show progression. However when the updates come in from Google for us to configure. There will often be some suprises in the update but the software engineers wont even tell us as its all network depended.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11GBCW07ENA001487.
Sincerely,
Mohammed
HTC
Now although 'Mohammed' hasn't confirmed anything there, surely it looks promising and its better than a template reply of 'we are not allowed to comment' or whatever they put?
Hey guys long time since I've been here since moved on to an iPhone 4 however played on a Desire S and am seriously tempted.
I was just wondering because my only quibble is Sense UI, I hate it!
I just prefer stock android.
Is there a way to get rid of Sense UI or possibly a ROM that is just Gingerbread on it's own no custom UI on the top that I could flash the phone with ?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
you can try ADW launcher or there is a CM7 port which has everything other than bluetooth working you can flash that
Wingzer said:
Hey guys long time since I've been here since moved on to an iPhone 4 however played on a Desire S and am seriously tempted.
I was just wondering because my only quibble is Sense UI, I hate it!
I just prefer stock android.
Is there a way to get rid of Sense UI or possibly a ROM that is just Gingerbread on it's own no custom UI on the top that I could flash the phone with ?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
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Check out the threads in the development forum
The CM7 or MIUI roms are probably what your after.
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Literally just want stock android 2.3 like you get on the Nexus S.
Not sure if it is possible though.
Wingzer said:
Literally just want stock android 2.3 like you get on the Nexus S.
Not sure if it is possible though.
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I'm tempted to say why buy a htc
Device if you dislike sense so much, as you can probably tell already I personally love it
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I'm tempted to say why buy a htc
Device if you dislike sense so much, as you can probably tell already I personally love it
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The construction of the phone and the screen, the size and just the device.
I just like it.
All Samsung phones are just plastic slabs, HTC seam to be the only quality phone maker at the moment.
Desire S with stock Gingerbread like the Nexus One or S would be perfect for me.
Just flash cm7 from the development section, that's essentially stock.
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Just flash cm7 from the development section, that's essentially stock.
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Used it before was painfully slow and ate battery like nothing on my Nexus S.
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Used it before was painfully slow and ate battery like nothing on my Nexus S.
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i thought cm7 was faster than stock & had better battery consumption
i have never used official cm7 before (have used some ports) so i maybe misguided
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i thought cm7 was faster than stock & had better battery consumption
i have never used official cm7 before (have used some ports) so i maybe misguided
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I've tried the current CM7 port and its certainly faster than stock and even faster than LBC.....I believe that they're still looking into improving the battery issues....but great progress is being made with the rom in a very short amount of time....so watch it ....
To think that Sense is the best overlay UI on any Android device not to mention Sense 3.0 that I have right now with Virtuous rom. Why hate it?
Or you could just flash TouchWiz UI on DesireS, though I haven't tried it.
I just want to know if it's possible to have a Desire S without Sense UI ?
Its possible, and someone will make it eventually, its my plan after finishing the cyanogen port
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Its possible, and someone will make it eventually, its my plan after finishing the cyanogen port
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Good to hear man!
I'm still on the fence on the Desire S, time will tell.
why don't you consider the incredible s? It seems to have a lot more support. Not that i wouldn't want you to get the desire s
Well, the incredible s is a great phone.. but cost more money and is bigger
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Well, the incredible s is a great phone.. but cost more money and is bigger
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& the desire S has unibody aluminium & feels nicer to hold
Yeah pretty much I'm not too fussed for a 4" screen it's ok as long as the resolution is high enough.
But yeah the construction and feel of the phone is a real strong point for me.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-first-ice-cream-sandwich-updates-coming-march-adds-more-phones-list
According to HTC, the Desire HD is confirmed to get an official ICS OTA! As we all know, the DHD and MT4G have nearly identical hardware and ROMs are very easy to port between the two. The stock DHD ICS ROM would make a perfect (read: fully functional) base for the MT4G. Assuming we still have decent devs in a few months, we should have a very nice ICS ROM.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-first-ice-cream-sandwich-updates-coming-march-adds-more-phones-list
According to HTC, the Desire HD is confirmed to get an official ICS OTA! As we all know, the DHD and MT4G have nearly identical hardware and ROMs are very easy to port between the two. The stock DHD ICS ROM would make a perfect (read: fully functional) base for the MT4G. Assuming we still have decent devs in a few months, we should have a very nice ICS ROM.
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nice!
but we need a Sense ICS kernel... :3
but hopefully they'll be able to port it with a multidevice kernel!
*crosses fingers*
saranhai said:
nice!
but we need a Sense ICS kernel... :3
but hopefully they'll be able to port it with a multidevice kernel!
*crosses fingers*
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I would think that DHD kernel would make a great start.
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I would think that DHD kernel would make a great start.
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haha hopefully by then i'll have the knowledge on how to build a kernel
What about the cameras? Do they use the same exact camera hardware?
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What about the cameras? Do they use the same exact camera hardware?
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As far as specs, yes. Historically speaking, DHD ROMs do still have to be ported to an extent. However, I would expect a fully working camera will be extremely easy with a DHD dump as a base.
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As far as specs, yes. Historically speaking, DHD ROMs do still have to be ported to an extent. However, I would expect a fully working camera will be extremely easy with a DHD dump as a base.
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True but you would still have things such as flipped ffc and other small bugs as the libs aren't identical
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True but you would still have things such as flipped ffc and other small bugs as the libs aren't identical
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Also true, but we've found solutions to minor issues like that in the past.
Who knows maybe we get it too.
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That is good news
good to hear
the kernel is the biggest issue right now and hopefully the dhd's ICS kernel can help
well guys, look at this:
The MT4G is "expected by HTC" to get ICS, but nothing's official yet
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
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well guys, look at this:
The MT4G is "expected by HTC" to get ICS, but nothing's official yet
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
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I saw that, but isn't that complete crap? Just seems highly unlikely to me. My bet is HTC doesn't consider it worth it, because the myTouch series of phones has that ugly TMO-customized version of Sense. So they'd put a lot of work in customizing that UI to work on ICS for only two phones, one of which is nearing a year and a half old. I just don't see it happening.
Guess I might just keep my phone.. Sounds good...
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I saw that, but isn't that complete crap? Just seems highly unlikely to me. My bet is HTC doesn't consider it worth it, because the myTouch series of phones has that ugly TMO-customized version of Sense. So they'd put a lot of work in customizing that UI to work on ICS for only two phones, one of which is nearing a year and a half old. I just don't see it happening.
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If it is true, that's another kick in the ass to people who thought we would never get it. I hope we get an official version
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TeeJay3800 said:
I saw that, but isn't that complete crap? Just seems highly unlikely to me. My bet is HTC doesn't consider it worth it, because the myTouch series of phones has that ugly TMO-customized version of Sense. So they'd put a lot of work in customizing that UI to work on ICS for only two phones, one of which is nearing a year and a half old. I just don't see it happening.
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lmao HTC likes to troll
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lmao HTC likes to troll
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How's that?
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How's that?
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tell people that they're "considering" on an upgrade, excite everyone, and then don't upgrade...