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No Sense UI, Stock Gingerbread ?

Hey guys long time since I've been here since moved on to an iPhone 4 however played on a Desire S and am seriously tempted.
I was just wondering because my only quibble is Sense UI, I hate it!
I just prefer stock android.
Is there a way to get rid of Sense UI or possibly a ROM that is just Gingerbread on it's own no custom UI on the top that I could flash the phone with ?
Thanks in advance for any responses.

you can try ADW launcher or there is a CM7 port which has everything other than bluetooth working you can flash that

Wingzer said:
Hey guys long time since I've been here since moved on to an iPhone 4 however played on a Desire S and am seriously tempted.
I was just wondering because my only quibble is Sense UI, I hate it!
I just prefer stock android.
Is there a way to get rid of Sense UI or possibly a ROM that is just Gingerbread on it's own no custom UI on the top that I could flash the phone with ?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
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Check out the threads in the development forum
The CM7 or MIUI roms are probably what your after.
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Literally just want stock android 2.3 like you get on the Nexus S.
Not sure if it is possible though.

Wingzer said:
Literally just want stock android 2.3 like you get on the Nexus S.
Not sure if it is possible though.
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I'm tempted to say why buy a htc
Device if you dislike sense so much, as you can probably tell already I personally love it
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ben_pyett said:
I'm tempted to say why buy a htc
Device if you dislike sense so much, as you can probably tell already I personally love it
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The construction of the phone and the screen, the size and just the device.
I just like it.
All Samsung phones are just plastic slabs, HTC seam to be the only quality phone maker at the moment.
Desire S with stock Gingerbread like the Nexus One or S would be perfect for me.

Just flash cm7 from the development section, that's essentially stock.

hookguy said:
Just flash cm7 from the development section, that's essentially stock.
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Used it before was painfully slow and ate battery like nothing on my Nexus S.

Wingzer said:
Used it before was painfully slow and ate battery like nothing on my Nexus S.
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i thought cm7 was faster than stock & had better battery consumption
i have never used official cm7 before (have used some ports) so i maybe misguided

kartkk said:
i thought cm7 was faster than stock & had better battery consumption
i have never used official cm7 before (have used some ports) so i maybe misguided
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I've tried the current CM7 port and its certainly faster than stock and even faster than LBC.....I believe that they're still looking into improving the battery issues....but great progress is being made with the rom in a very short amount of time....so watch it ....

To think that Sense is the best overlay UI on any Android device not to mention Sense 3.0 that I have right now with Virtuous rom. Why hate it?
Or you could just flash TouchWiz UI on DesireS, though I haven't tried it.

I just want to know if it's possible to have a Desire S without Sense UI ?

Its possible, and someone will make it eventually, its my plan after finishing the cyanogen port

superkid said:
Its possible, and someone will make it eventually, its my plan after finishing the cyanogen port
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Good to hear man!
I'm still on the fence on the Desire S, time will tell.

why don't you consider the incredible s? It seems to have a lot more support. Not that i wouldn't want you to get the desire s

Well, the incredible s is a great phone.. but cost more money and is bigger

superkid said:
Well, the incredible s is a great phone.. but cost more money and is bigger
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& the desire S has unibody aluminium & feels nicer to hold

Yeah pretty much I'm not too fussed for a 4" screen it's ok as long as the resolution is high enough.
But yeah the construction and feel of the phone is a real strong point for me.

MT4GS HTC Sense 2.1 ROM + 3.0 features (i.e Lockscreen, weather videos, etc.)

Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA

Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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Undeadk9 said:
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )

You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
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From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?

Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.

Sinfamy said:
I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...

Anthonayy said:
Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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Undeadk9 said:
The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?

arcticwolf8 said:
KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
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In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.

Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.

unclespoon said:
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.

Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.

So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?

Anthonayy said:
You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?

cal3thousand said:
"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
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[Q] MIUI vs Sense 3.5?

What you think is better and more stable? I was using Sense 3.5 but yesterday i install the MIUI one and it look so cool! but i see in DS forum that most of users use the Sense one.

Must .. resist .. temptation .. to .. troll .. >_<
Sense 3.5 all the way.

This should be posted on the Q&A section.
Mods please move this thread.
My answer: i dont know, im not using either of it.
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There are about 5 different Sense 3.5 ROMS each of which provide a different level of experience.
MOD: move thread.

It's apples and oranges, Sense (in general, not just 3.5) allows customization, useful widgets, a beautiful homescreen and some great apps. Lockscreen is great too.
Miui is more about speed and performance, and a LOT of theming, you can customize the hell out of it, it's much faster than sense.
Matter of choice.

Sense 3.5 UI is indeed great, but I personally think it also puts unnecessary burden on battery. Many services in sense rom keeps on running even if you close them.
On miui if closed once they are down for good(almost)
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I am going to try MIUI today.

the only thing i miss in sense roms is the INTERNET PASS-THROUGH feature(allows phone to use PC internet via usb)
still wonder why Miui has not been able to add this feature

Miui and sense 3.5 are both very nice in their own different ways.
If I use miui though, i greatly miss the functionality of sense 3.x.
So I use Sense, and miui just for fun to test
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I think sense 3.5 is better, cause I like android better than iPhone style.
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You just have to try both. That's the best way.
MIUI is not just a pretty face BTW.

lynxnoon said:
the only thing i miss in sense roms is the INTERNET PASS-THROUGH feature(allows phone to use PC internet via usb)
still wonder why Miui has not been able to add this feature
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Internet pass through works very well on sense roms. Please check one out to see for yourself. Try hyperion if you have doubts.
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enigmaamit said:
Internet pass through works very well on sense roms. Please check one out to see for yourself. Try hyperion if you have doubts.
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what i meant was this internet pass through only works on sensed based roms,
no one seems to be able to add it on other roms like miui or cm7

I love Sense, it's fast and stable on my phone. MIUI looks great too, but I've read it's not stable at all yet.
Endymion ROM (with Sense 3.5) is so far the best one I've tried.

Dense has more features than MIUI IMHO
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Miuiiiiiiiiiiiii!
I just flashed MIUI last night, previously only knew Sense 3.0 and more recently the 3.5 version. I love the speed and layout of MIUI - BUT, and this is a major but... the email implementation is not up to par with how I like to use my android phone. Since this is the only issue I've run into so far, below is a list of what I personally thought could be done better.
MIUI Email Pitfalls:
- "Corporate" email, sucks because the only option is the super secure version that would be nice for corporations who own the phone - but lets get real, what percentage of MIUI users fall into this category (0% maybe)? The Exchange email implementation should be like the Sense version in that you don't have to give up access to your phone and abide by "Exchange" rules governing your entire phone experience IMHO.
- Ability to quickly change email filters, e.g. unread, flagged, attachments, etc - loved this ability in Sense and really miss it so far.
There's my relatively short list. I'm sure there are mods that can alleviate these pitfalls, but hey this is just day two. =)

[Q] Virtuous Inquisition v3.0.0

Hi guys,
You guys might think im a newbie because i got zero posts. ( We'll actually i got 1 post after this one. =D)
I've been using roms a couple of years. I've never been posting or requesting on XDA. So this will be my first time. My first android phone was a HTC HERO G2 Touch. At that point i was researching and trying out roms. I was totally inlove with Android. I've been a Iphone user. HTC Hero came with the stock version 2.1.
But then i found Cyanogenmod they've managed to get Gingerbread 2.3 on the Hero. I came more in love with Android. After using the HTC Hero G2 a year or so it became boring the phone is getting slower and i saw a couple of friends have a faster Android phone. Then the HTC ChaCha came out. I thought im gonna change a bit from touch to a keyboard + touch. The bad thing about it. It wasn't S-off but S-on so i couldn't unlock the bootloader. I've been using the HTC ChaCha a couple of months but like the HTC Hero it became boring. I couldnt change roms because it wasn't S-offed. I was waiting on HTCdev to release the unlocked bootloader. But then a friend of mine he asked me if i wanna buy his HTC Sensation for 200euro's. He used it for like four months. He wanted a Iphone 4S. So i thought it's sounds pretty attractive. So i bought it a month ago. I allready put a custom rom a while back while he used it. (the Android Revolution HD 3.6.1 when it came out). When i got the phone i updated it to the latest version back then. Off course i've tried the ICS rom of ARHD. I was blown away by the looks of it. Then i came across Virtuous Inquisition. I wanted a FULLY ICS. Im now running the latest version v3.0.0. Its freaking smooth no force to close. Almost everything worked how i wanted it.
I got 1 issue about it. Skype. The one i called he sees me in green. I dont know if its about the rom or Skype.
Also i discovered something while i was playing around on the homescreen.
When you swipe with two fingers to the right you get a small pop up "Got rotate! false" and when you swipe with two fingers to the left it says "Got rotate! true". I thought it was a shortcut to change the settings of rotation of the screen but it wasn't. So i was wondering what it does. I've searched on the forums and i didn't found anything about it.
Can't wait till a FULLY WORKING ICS ROM without any problems.

I too have rooted my Sensation and installed the following:
Virtuous Inquisition 3.0.
SebastianFM 1.5Ghz Kernel
The Sensation now actually lives up to its name! This thing really flies! I am elated to get rid of the Sense UI and really love the Nova launcher. Despite the increase in clock speed the battery life is actually quite good.
I have tried to replicate your two finger swipe anomaly but cannot. That being, said, perhaps it is related to live wallpaper? I use the Beautiful Widget live weather wallpaper and it is somewhat interactive in that you can move the clouds and sun around. So, if you have a live wallpaper installed, maybe it too is interactive and reporting back these messages? Just a guess....
I am hopeful that a fix for the incoming call not showing up on the lock screen will be fixed soon as this is annoying. Another minor issue I and others are experiencing is the contact ringtone assignment not taking affect.
Overall this ROM breathes new life into the sensation!
Dennis

I tried replicating the error on my Sensation 4G running Virtuous Inquisition v3.0.0 was unsuccessful.
Try flashing it again.

whutt said:
Hi guys,
I've been using roms a couple of years. I've never been posting or requesting on XDA.
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Whutt, Well done for doing what many xda members don't ( Read and learn ). You will do well in this community with that approach. I hope you enjoy owning the sensation
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First post fail!
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Uncalled for, and useless post!

koutsoures said:
I too have rooted my Sensation and installed the following:
Virtuous Inquisition 3.0.
SebastianFM 1.5Ghz Kernel
The Sensation now actually lives up to its name! This thing really flies! I am elated to get rid of the Sense UI and really love the Nova launcher. Despite the increase in clock speed the battery life is actually quite good.
I have tried to replicate your two finger swipe anomaly but cannot. That being, said, perhaps it is related to live wallpaper? I use the Beautiful Widget live weather wallpaper and it is somewhat interactive in that you can move the clouds and sun around. So, if you have a live wallpaper installed, maybe it too is interactive and reporting back these messages? Just a guess....
I am hopeful that a fix for the incoming call not showing up on the lock screen will be fixed soon as this is annoying. Another minor issue I and others are experiencing is the contact ringtone assignment not taking affect.
Overall this ROM breathes new life into the sensation!
Dennis
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I too have the 3.0.0 Virtuous Inquisition.
How stable is flashing the 1.5GHz kernel?
I remember it was quite unstable when I was on ARHD, has changes been made?

Personally the 1.5ghz kernel gave me a bunch of odd issues on this ROM. did a full wipe, standard 3.24 kernel linked on the ROM's page, and installed the newest version, zero issues. Reluctant to try the 1.5ghz again, not worth it imho. Maybe that's just my experience though.

Screenshots please? As for appearing green on Skype, this is the first time I've heard of such an issue.
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ladyhaly said:
Screenshots please? As for appearing green on Skype, this is the first time I've heard of such an issue.
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Yep. same here, can't remember what ICS version though.

fuuunkdat said:
Whutt, Well done for doing what many xda members don't ( Read and learn ). You will do well in this community with that approach. I hope you enjoy owning the sensation
Uncalled for, and useless post!
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Thank you! Defitnitly enjoying the sensation!

koutsoures said:
I too have rooted my Sensation and installed the following:
Virtuous Inquisition 3.0.
SebastianFM 1.5Ghz Kernel
The Sensation now actually lives up to its name! This thing really flies! I am elated to get rid of the Sense UI and really love the Nova launcher. Despite the increase in clock speed the battery life is actually quite good.
I have tried to replicate your two finger swipe anomaly but cannot. That being, said, perhaps it is related to live wallpaper? I use the Beautiful Widget live weather wallpaper and it is somewhat interactive in that you can move the clouds and sun around. So, if you have a live wallpaper installed, maybe it too is interactive and reporting back these messages? Just a guess....
I am hopeful that a fix for the incoming call not showing up on the lock screen will be fixed soon as this is annoying. Another minor issue I and others are experiencing is the contact ringtone assignment not taking affect.
Overall this ROM breathes new life into the sensation!
Dennis
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Yeah you might be right. i got a live wallpaper the stock one when you install virtuos. I will try it out tonight without Live wallpaper.

Thread cleaned. Some of those posts were very disappointing.
if you have nothing useful or helpful to say, don't bother posting.
I'm happy to hand out bans to trolls...

Hey I was able to replicate the "got rotate! True" and "got rotate! false" ...but that was "as far as I got! True"
To do it put two fingers on the screen like they're at 12 and 6 on a clock, then swipe clockwise/counterclockwise.

I have none of the issues mentioned... Having tried ARHD GB and ICS basedroms...I have to say I'm completely blown away by the quality/stability and performance of this rom.
I have a question to the VI users that flashed their roms with 1.5ghz...has stability and battery life suffered at all?
Thanks

Most stable and fastest Sense 4 ROM?

I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?

Dunno about its the best and most stable but I works very good:
[ROM][Sense 4.0][MAR.25] OrDroid 1.7.2 | Fast & Stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551714
only thing there is bodering me is those arrows in the bottum when the qwerty pinboard is up :/

I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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That's a bit contradictory don't you think?

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive

brandonair95 said:
I am looking to switch to sense 4. Which rom is the most stable and fast!?
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I'm trying to find this out too???
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most of them have bluetooth problem ...

xHighAlert said:
I really don't want to derail but what do you guys find so good about sense?
To each their own and I encourage that..
But come on! It makes me cringe!
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that's what I say to everyone:
without sense is not an htc!....is just another phone, like others...only who have an htc deserves sense!...
I understood sense after months...is so elegant, so beautiful, useful, you got everything under your finger...fast, veeery smooth, more than all other launchers, and very stable...
social integration, widgets, animation...everything STOCK!...
yesterday I tried ordroid....I think that roms are not enough stable, even if BT is the only bug...but is awesome, very very nice feel and look...is much better than 3.6, but the launcher is a bit laggy

about sense 4.0
I used Ordroid 1.72 sense 4.0, i really like it but my battery is ending to fast, i have the newest firmware, like 12 hours and i need to recharge again, anyone knows why ?

Think Ordroid is Most stabile out there and baads IC. Besids Bt, everything is fine, But i prefer 3.6, more smooth
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Is there any sense 4 rom with working Bluetooth?
Sent From My HTC Sensation 4G

If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
Have a nice day

beston94 said:
If you want to see all the sense 4 roms with their links, please follow this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569371
Have a nice day
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Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.

n7of9 said:
every time i have used anything other than sense it all looks and feels so bland to me...no-sense is like a communist phone to me...i know it's lol, but really and truly, i find no-sense android to be oppressive
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To add to this, a bunch of non-HTC users can't all be wrong. I have a number of friends with various other brands of phone, and whatever other good points they might like about their phone, the one thing they most often comment on is how much they like the look and feel of Sense compared to whatever is on their phone.
Yes personal preference is fine, yes Sense is not going to be 100% perfect, but I'll take 90% over 70% any day. Who knows, maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?

goatee84 said:
maybe HTC users are a bit spoilt?
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i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference

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i myself definitely think that's the case...i tried no-sense and AOSP because everyone on these boards constantly complains about how slow/delayed/retarded Sense is, one member even telling me i was lying to myself and to others...though i did in fact notice a difference, in actuality it amounted to about a half second delay's difference
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It's not so much the speed for me, but the visual lag. on AOSP-senseless my framerate is a constant 60 FPS, which is good, really smooth. On Sense 3.6, 4.0, whatever, I've dipped to 15 FPS before. Like, the homescreen is decently smooth but my Music Queue is ridiculously laggy.
On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless, I don't care what anyone says.

sshede said:
On a sidenote, straight up AOSP is no faster than Senseless
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how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??

n7of9 said:
how do you feel about the user experience when running a Sense ROM but with an alternate launcher? faster/same/useless??
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I've run a couple of different launchers on Sense ROMs and they are just that...different. They can be faster, and the ability to customise more (transition animations and the like) is a plus, but if you crank all the settings up and choose the most complex animations you are bound to create some lag. My first thought on using a new launcher was "wow this is so much smoother and faster" but once I started delving into all the different options I realised quite a few of those things are default and unchangeable on Sense whilst the custom launchers come a bit more 'stripped back'.
I'm currently using GO Launcher but not because I didn't like Sense, and GO Launcher has been fun but it's certainly presented its own issues. I'm actually considering going back to Sense for a while.

one80oneday said:
Which Sense 4 ROM has the best battery life? I keep switching between Sense 3.6
and Senseless ICS but Sense has a lot of nice features that no other has. I haven't tried Sense 4 yet but I hear it's much better. Don't have a charger with me all day to test right now.
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OrDroid with Bricked kernel, had longest battery life for me.