This would be cool to see on our phone. But probably not. - EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21159-rom22-03-2012virtuous-primadonna-v1120-alpha-1-sense-4a-403/

Its getting worked on... This stuff is fairly difficult to do, and I know that every single dev or member that could get this working has a life outside of xda... Patience young grasshopper... :beer:
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i just want a 5 icon launcher that keeps my sense widgets in place. i really hate the ugly 3 button rosie, but the sense widgets are undeniable and i can't do without them.

TDJ512 said:
i just want a 5 icon launcher that keeps my sense widgets in place. i really hate the ugly 3 button rosie, but the sense widgets are undeniable and i can't do without them.
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I hear you on that one, I keep trying AOSP ROMs but always go back to Sense for the widgets
I hate to impose, but I am the Ocean

The Rom linked in the op is great, but It's a light version of Sense, no carousel, no weather animations, no PhotoGrid widget, all 3 of them is why I run Sense 3.0 or alike. I would wait until a full version of Sense 4.0 is released before anything was to be ported. Although RAM was outstanding while running the Rom, again it was a light version with tons of the great left out. One thing that stands out In the Rom is the camera, because you have the ability to record video or take a picture with the push of a button (like over and under buttons one for pic and other for video) rather than switching between the two and waiting a hot second or 2. I'm wondering if the Sense 4.0 camera can be ported to the Shift though, as we've seen the Shift can handle newer mods, I'm just not sure what's changed within their camera
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The Rom linked in the op is great, but It's a light version of Sense, no carousel, no weather animations, no PhotoGrid widget, all 3 of them is why I run Sense 3.0 or alike. I would wait until a full version of Sense 4.0 is released before anything was to be ported. Although RAM was outstanding while running the Rom, again it was a light version with tons of the great left out. One thing that stands out In the Rom is the camera, because you have the ability to record video or take a picture with the push of a button (like over and under buttons one for pic and other for video) rather than switching between the two and waiting a hot second or 2. I'm wondering if the Sense 4.0 camera can be ported to the Shift though, as we've seen the Shift can handle newer mods, I'm just not sure what's changed within their camera
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I doubt if they even got the camera.apk ported to the shift that it would be of any use.
All the modifications to the Sense 4.0 camera are for the special hardware chip that the One series uses called the "ImageSense" chip.

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I doubt if they even got the camera.apk ported to the shift that it would be of any use.
All the modifications to the Sense 4.0 camera are for the special hardware chip that the One series uses called the "ImageSense" chip.
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Hmm well Its in that Rom for the DoubleShot so?
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What does everyone think about HTC sense?

I just was curious to see what you all thought of the sense integration with android. I have had many android phones, this is my first HTC phone. Whenever I got a new android device the first thing I would do is customize everything to the way I liked it. This always started with a Google search on rooting it to get a custom rom. Mainly cause I could and I liked the differences.
I have to say that I am happy with this phone. I have been using it the way it came out of the box. I think that the sense has made the already good android system even better. Perhaps its gingerbread doing its work as well for a good experience. This phone plain and simple just works. Multi tasking is very reliable unlike most of my expierences with other android devices (COUGH...G2x...COUGH) No issues to date. The phone and the phone interface is excellent IMO. I don't even think I will root it when its able to be done. Perhaps only to have recovery option available. Thumbs up too HTC!!
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hate it. ADW launcher FTW.
I like sense, but it seems really resourse intensive, pretty sure u can achieve the same eye candy less power hungry. Still need root, to remove the crapware that came with the phone.
Sense 3.0 is a LOT better than previous versions, only other launcher worth looking at is LauncherPro IMO
Sense suxs for me...like other launchers much better!
I like certain aspects of Sense like the text app, contacts app and clock app but I think HTC is going in the wrong direction with its UI. They are digging further into Android and in my opinion, adding to much eye candy.
I never though I'd say it but Samsung is moving in the right direction with Touch Wiz by minimalizing the nonsense animations and adding slight improvements to Android.
I loaded ADW onto the Sensation and haven't looked back. It made this phone faster than my G2X.
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I like Sense 3.0 though I do wish they would optimize it a bit.
i like the way sense works. I had a galaxy s 4g for a little and i didn't like the interface as much as sense. Only thing i liked better was the better looking messaging app. The htc one looks so cheap and boring.
I really like sense and I wouldnt buy an android device without it at this time.
I believe that sense will get better with time and with the fact that HTC in releasing the sense SDK
I like sense~~~beautiful!!~
but seems that it has a big power consumption
Personally, I don't like Sense. It's the biggest reason I want a custom rom on this phone. I agree with jrwingate6's comments on TouchWiz, but I'm an AOSP guy.
Sense 3.0 is definitely an upgrade. With previous versions of Sense, I couldn't use them on my HD2 because of the pocket call answer / decline problem (I would always decline calls because my leg would slide up on the screen when I pulled the phone out). I like the Sense lockscreen and the widgets, however, I'm using LauncherPro Plus right now. I can't deal with the inability to resize widgets and not set the number of rows / columns on each screen. Running LauncherPro also seems to have sped up the phone considerably.
I am not a fan of sense, though I do like the lock screen, app draw and running apps in the notification. I find that the additional animations sounds and other beauty aspects really hinder the performance of the phone. I am currently using golauncher.
Can't wait for root to de-bloat and remove a good portion or all of sense.
After never having an android phone that had sense on it, I have to say I like it. It's different sure, and it might be a little over the top, but I still like it. If you're going to have a skin on your phone i'd choose skin over any other in a heart beat. That's just my opinion though.
I love the aesthetics of Sense but it is too much of a resource hog and apparently very glitchy. I like what HTC did with the mail client, SMS application, weather and a few other standout features but the UX overall just doesn't seem optimized for the dual-core processors.
I also notices something today...I replaced the stock keyboard with another one I found on the market and guess what, the scrolling speed has dramatically improved! I use ADW launcher and now my app drawer and home screens scroll just as smoothly as my HD2 with Hyperdroid android 2.3. Go figure.
For the most part I really like sense. The weather clock, the contacts widgets, the notification tray with quick settings and running programs. The camera ap. The contact/social networking integration. Much of the skinning they do. Features like putting the phone face down to turn on the speaker phone. Adjusting call volume in/out of the pocket, when th ephone is moved, etc. All that I really like.
The sound fx for the weather I hate. I also hate they waste screen real estate with the stupid "customize screen" button. Just let me long press on the screen if I want to add an icon or change the wallpaper. I'd love to be able to use that button for something else. I much prefer the customization that I can get from a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher.
I just wish I could use Sense widgets on ADW Launcher and I would be happy.
I like it, but I think it's waaaaaay too much. You can see this by the lag (I have it, sadly )
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I'm missing my MIUI from my Nexus one, the 5-way lockscreen on MIUI is pretty awesome.
On principal I like Sense 3.0 as it does look good and would be great if it wasn't such a hog. I'm more a minimalist though and obviously Sense 3.0 is the complete opposite.
I have disabled just about every sense feature i could and removed all sense widgets except for the weather as that is kinda cool looking if nothing else.
I have always loved the eye candy of sense but never used it on any of my phones because I like my phone to be as snappy and fast as possible and sense always seemed to bogg the phone down. In fact, this is the longest I've gone leaving sense on a phone. Usually right out of the box I root it and install a non sense rom. I really am liking sense 3.0 I think it will be better once they get the kinks worked out of it. It still is a resource hog but my phone doesnt appear as laggy as older sense versions/phones. While I cant wait until we get root and s-off to install a non sense rom/kernel I think I will miss 3.0 a bit. I've tried using adw ex on my sensation (used it on all my phones and tablets and LOVED it) but I keep going back to the eye candy of sense 3.0
This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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Nice!!
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[Q] Now that I'm rooted...rom time!

Now that I'm rooted (thanks to all those involved), I want to get all decked out with a custom kernel/rom/all that. I can see that there are quite a few roms available. I don't suppose there's really anything that compares and contrasts them? Or an easy way to find them all? I tried searching for [rom] and it wasn't able to handle that.
I'm really digging Sense, and I recall seeing that there was a rom (maybe more than one?) that had Sense 3.0?
All the ROMs are listed in the development section.. Take a look at this thread for some good ROM recommendations http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256017
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Now that I'm rooted (thanks to all those involved), I want to get all decked out with a custom kernel/rom/all that. I can see that there are quite a few roms available. I don't suppose there's really anything that compares and contrasts them? Or an easy way to find them all? I tried searching for [rom] and it wasn't able to handle that.
I'm really digging Sense, and I recall seeing that there was a rom (maybe more than one?) that had Sense 3.0?
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We do have a full pure 3.0 ROM that was a wip but the dev got like hella busy working 80+ hours a week so it took a backseat so he could relax, but there are also modded sense 2.1 ROMS depending on what your looking for the 2 we have both have Sense 3 elements but are not full sense 3, one of them is mikshifted-g(some sense 3 elements) and the other is supreme sense (3.0 rosie and widgets)both of which have their own look and feel but are the same base ROM
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one of them is mikshifted-g(some sense 3 elements) and the other is supreme sense (3.0 rosie and widgets)both of which have their own look and feel
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Any chance you could expand on this? I don't even know what's different in Sense 3, I just know that 3 is higher than 2.1, so it has to be better, right? I'm going to try to find threads on these roms and read up on them, but any comparison you can give from actual experience or working knowledge would be appreciated.
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Any chance you could expand on this? I don't even know what's different in Sense 3, I just know that 3 is higher than 2.1, so it has to be better, right? I'm going to try to find threads on these roms and read up on them, but any comparison you can give from actual experience or working knowledge would be appreciated.
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MikshiftedG- has Sense 3.0 messaging,lockcreen,the newest market that let's you plus1 things, has lots of extra quick settings,music widget if there are more ill be back to edit this post
Supreme Sense- is based off mikshifted G so it has the same market and all the quick settings and has Sense 3.0 messaging, weather,music,twitter3d,friendstream3d,lockscreen,Rosie(carousel),people widget 3d, message widget 3d, bookmark3d,htcclock3dwidget, if there is more i remember ill edit this too its early and i was up late making some changes lol anyways mikshifted/supreme offer up the most features out of our sense based ROMS, and they have better perfomance because they are odex and not deodex
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Fantastic, thanks.

MT4GS HTC Sense 2.1 ROM + 3.0 features (i.e Lockscreen, weather videos, etc.)

Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )
You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
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From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?
Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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Undeadk9 said:
The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
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In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.
Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.
So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
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why sense 3.0. i wish a actually sense 2.1 rom

hi guys,
why have all the focus on sense 3.0 roms?
i prefer sense 2.1. i use at the moment the lbc 0.60 mod with unity v4 kernel
in my eyes the best sense 2.1 rom.
is it possible to make a sense 2.1 rom in mix with actually ota from htc or using the newest kernels like unity v9 or else.
thx
Mix with ota sure possible, but yet not build as much as i know.
Unity v9 you can use, anyway it fits better than tiamat, cause unity is build for sense roms and tiamat for aosp roms
I'm quite surprised that that kernel works with sense!?
Nothings wrong with Sense v2.1 and LBC IMO was best implementation of it - I've not long come from it myself, although even LBC's next ROM will be pure sense 3.0 - showing that times change and things move on!
The reason why the direction has moved towards Sense v3.0 is as a result of the official release and the fact that the devs have tweaked it so that it runs as fast if not smoother than Sense v2.1 did, with more eye candy!
They just need to work on battery life!
sorry. i'm using unity v4. i have changed first post
I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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You need to try more Sense v3.0 ROMS the degree that the carousel spins varies across the ROMs and in some is even turn on and off'able.
I personally really like the way that I can scroll in a full circle - a huge improvement on having to go left or right then stopping, but, I don't think that the carousel effect is completely necessary.
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I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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I also hate the nuisance spinning carousel. It's a prime example of form over function. If you want a good Sense 3.0 ROM where this has been inhibited, I can recommend BinDroid. It's not been turned off, just damped right down so it's actually quite hard to go into an eyeroll-inducing home-screen spin-out.
I actually hate the whole screen switching thing. I prefer the side to side switch of 2.1
Must admit I like the carousel ,rather than having to flick backwards and forwards ,it's just case of moving on around
Went to cyanogenmod and never looked back.
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det66 said:
Must admit I like the carousel ,rather than having to flick backwards and forwards ,it's just case of moving on around
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No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
I would have agreed with the OP a few months back
I disliked the sense 3.0 aswell. I tried virtuous unity, it was slow AND laggy.
But since then, sense 3.0 has been desgined for single core now. And it is very well optimized for pur phones.
I don't really mind the carousel.. ive gotten used to it now.
The real things I like about 3.0 are the deeper integration, keyboard new sense apps etc.
What looks.nice now is sense 3.5 want to give it a go soon!
Do any of you notice any significant changes in battery life between 2.1 vs 3.0?
I don't!
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is it possible to mix 2.1 apk and widgets with 3.0? so i make my personal rom. i think i have to study "how to cook a rom"
Nomader0 said:
I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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wnp_79 said:
I also hate the nuisance spinning carousel. It's a prime example of form over function. If you want a good Sense 3.0 ROM where this has been inhibited, I can recommend BinDroid. It's not been turned off, just damped right down so it's actually quite hard to go into an eyeroll-inducing home-screen spin-out.
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I actually hate the whole screen switching thing. I prefer the side to side switch of 2.1
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ben_pyett said:
No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
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Try VoidU, the carousel is a little hard to spin in a full circle and over all a good ROM.
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Try VoidU, the carousel is a little hard to spin in a full circle and over all a good ROM.
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Yeah, noticed that when I tried comparing spinning on hyperion and VoidU
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ben_pyett said:
No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
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ahh but that is just down to how fast you flick it ,it's not the de-facto way of doing it

PSA: The Sense Camera and AOSP-based ROMs

I just wanted to put this out there since people seem to be asking about it time after time.
I enjoy the Sense camera. It is probably my favourite feature of Sense. I also do not like the Camera in AOSP ROMs. It is one of my most hated features of AOSP. But, we cannot at this point have the Sense Camera in AOSP ROMs. I will explain why below.
In the Sense Camera's APK (Package File) the Sense Camera, much like other applications, uses APIs which reference specific parts of the ROM its running. For example, in Holo-looking apps, all the stuff drawn for the most part is not coded into there using images. Instead, it references the image files and layouts from the framework of ICS ROMs (which is also why Holo apps will probably never work on GB either).
This is very similar to the situation that the Sense camera on AOSP is in. Sense is not just a "skin" sitting atop Android. It is integrated directly into the framework of the ROM. It contains APIs that are not usually present in AOSP ROMs. Because of this, it is impossible currently to run the Sense camera in the AOSP environment. However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
If you want the Sense Camera, then use a Sense based ROM. You will most probably never be able to run the Sense camera on AOSP ROMs.
For now, in AOSP I am using "UCam" from the market. It has a bunch of the features from the Sense camera that I enjoy.
Thx rohan. I appreciate all your work. I have aokp as a nandroid right now on my phone but am back on cleanrom just because of the camera. The rest of the rom is amazing. I will give ucam a shot.
Does video work with it?
Nm just restored. Can't connect to camera error with video.
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rohan32 said:
I just wanted to put this out there since people seem to be asking about it time after time.
I enjoy the Sense camera. It is probably my favourite feature of Sense. I also do not like the Camera in AOSP ROMs. It is one of my most hated features of AOSP. But, we cannot at this point have the Sense Camera in AOSP ROMs. I will explain why below.
In the Sense Camera's APK (Package File) the Sense Camera, much like other applications, uses APIs which reference specific parts of the ROM its running. For example, in Holo-looking apps, all the stuff drawn for the most part is not coded into there using images. Instead, it references the image files and layouts from the framework of ICS ROMs (which is also why Holo apps will probably never work on GB either).
This is very similar to the situation that the Sense camera on AOSP is in. Sense is not just a "skin" sitting atop Android. It is integrated directly into the framework of the ROM. It contains APIs that are not usually present in AOSP ROMs. Because of this, it is impossible currently to run the Sense camera in the AOSP environment. However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
If you want the Sense Camera, then use a Sense based ROM. You will most probably never be able to run the Sense camera on AOSP ROMs.
For now, in AOSP I am using "UCam" from the market. It has a bunch of the features from the Sense camera that I enjoy.
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Thanks for posting this. As a huge fan of the Sense camera app, it's disappointing to read, but it's also good to know the technical details behind the limitations.
Not to mention proprietary drivers for the image sense chip. You won't get those either.
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I'm in love with Nocturnal's Senseless ROM at the moment.
Which, while I'm sure is built upon sense, has a nearly complete AOSP look and feel....and has the awesome sense camera UI.
A worthy compromise?
I'm so glad that this thread exists. I assumed that this was the reason that I hadn't seen the Sense camera ported to any AOSP ROM and having it confirmed just puts my mind at ease. Now I don't need to keep hunting and waiting. I've been trying out UCam and it's been working pretty great. I still miss the tight integration with the image chip and can notice a difference between the Sense camera and other apps, but I figure it's just a compromise I have to make to get all the best features of custom ROMs.
I would love to see this exist! If someone can point me in the direction of where to learn I'm sure I could try!
rohan32 said:
However, if someone was to decompile the Sense camera and edit the smali (probably one of the hardest things to do and also the most annoying) then we could run it. But thats nearly impossible since you would need to edit the smali directly since there is no source code for the Sense parts.
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Thanks for the great explanation.
You used to be around the Xoom forums when it was first released, right? That smali editing sounds like what BRD did to give us those amazing Tiamat ROMs early on.
Would a bounty thread help? I'll start it off with $50!
Billy
Thanks
Thanks rohan for the detailed explanation.
We just need this guy to make a gingerMODesk rom for the One X. Basically the most AOSPed ROM you can get without the lack of the nice features from the SGS2 Touchwisz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220283
robstunner said:
We just need this guy to make a gingerMODesk rom for the One X. Basically the most AOSPed ROM you can get without the lack of the nice features from the SGS2 Touchwisz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220283
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Thats basically one of the cleanROMs that scott makes (i forget what its called... developer mode? something)
what other camera app uses the image sense chip in our HOX
RE: Rohan
Hey Rohan, First thanks for all the work you are doing.
I meant no disrespect when I expressed my concerns. I was just curious if this could be done. I understand the situation much better now, and thanks for the further clarification.
Keep up the good work.
Honestly not having the Sense camera is whats holding me back from flashing other roms, you really never know how good it is till you use other rom cameras.
I take a lot of pics (instagram junkie) and when I compare pic quality its almost night and day. There are some great - teriffic roms out, but the sense camera is just that good.
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Honestly not having the Sense camera is whats holding me back from flashing other roms, you really never know how good it is till you use other rom cameras.
I take a lot of pics (instagram junkie) and when I compare pic quality its almost night and day. There are some great - teriffic roms out, but the sense camera is just that good.
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We had a discussion about this over in the AOKP thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29914879&postcount=1417
Long story short - a lot of what makes the Sense camera better is the fact it automatically sharpens the image and does a bit of noise reduction.
In MIUI V5 they use sense camera, and I dont think MIUI is based on sense framework. Is it? If not how have they done it?
Dryize said:
In MIUI V5 they use sense camera, and I dont think MIUI is based on sense framework. Is it? If not how have they done it?
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But it is sense based
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Honestly, the only thing I really am missing from Sense camera is slow-motion. I want that on my N5 so bad. I used it a lot actually.
My HOXl for your Nexus?
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