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New to Doubleshot. From a Mt4G

And I just wanted to know, I'm unusually a AOSP rom guy.. But I see a lot of great sense roms out, what are the differences? I know what VU has to offer but what about Undead's roms? What are the differences they offer?
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Deal with it!

Undead has two great. Aosp roms. Senseless and agent orange.
Android open source project roms are based off of pure source code untouched by carriers and factory manufacturers.
While sense and the term pink are both htcs and t mobiles addidtions to google source.
I'm was a big supporter of sense. But I love agent orange. You can check out my sig for a list of the aosp roms and sense.
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Iknow the differences and I have looked at all of these..I was just looking for some user input as to what the main differences are between Crack Injected sense by Undead aand VU

I am using Undead senseless and very happy with it, in my opinion its the best rom for Doubleshot right now. I have used VU for two weeks and there's still a couple of issue but the good thing about this rom is the VU features that comes with it and hopefully if the small issue got fix it will be an awesome Rom . I haven't tried the newest crack injected but my experience with Senseless it should be a very good rom too.
Both of this rom are still Sense based.

Micoman said:
Both of this rom are still Sense based.
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I didn't know senseless was sense based... I thought I read on OP that it is CM based...?

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I didn't know senseless was sense based... I thought I read on OP that it is CM based...?
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Senseless is aosp not sense
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Droidmoder said:
Senseless is aosp not sense
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No, senseless is a sense ROM, no bloat, great battery, fully functional.
I was much happier with my phone after rooting and getting senseless.
If you want to overclock, use unity v2 or unity v1, just don't clock too low As u might get random reboots.
The stock kernel is recommended because nothing else is stable
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Er...which is it? I'll look at the OP again.

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Er...which is it? I'll look at the OP again.
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It runs on sense. Imo senseless is the best ROM that includes the sense camera for this device
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Ok time for me to intervine, my senseless ROM is sense based with most sense aspects removed and merged with aosp and cm7 commits and code. It's the closest to aosp you will get without losing the amazing sense camera. My absolution port is based on cm7 code. Which is aosp on speed and tweaked to hell.
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Ok time for me to intervine, my senseless ROM is sense based with most sense aspects removed and merged with aosp and cm7 commits and code. It's the closest to aosp you will get without losing the amazing sense camera. My absolution port is based on cm7 code. Which is aosp on speed and tweaked to hell.
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What would you classify it as undeadk9. I have it under aosp in the sticky(senseless)? is that correct? I know its not 100% sense as I went back to sense on crack. For the record
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Okay. Thanks Undead ...
Do you like lose camera quality or something without the sense camera....?

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Okay. Thanks Undead ...
Do you like lose camera quality or something without the sense camera....?
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Oooooooohhhhh my god Yes you do. The sense camera is where its at.
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Droidmoder said:
What would you classify it as undeadk9. I have it under aosp in the sticky(senseless)? is that correct? I know its not 100% sense as I went back to sense on crack. For the record
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It's a hybrid. I call it half baked.
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Undeadk9 said:
Oooooooohhhhh my god Yes you do. The sense camera is where its at.
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Really? That's crazy I never knew that. So I do adore AOSP.
I'm just curious what does your Crack injected ROM have that this senseless or VU doesn't..
Obviously there are differences in the senseless as it is like an AOSP hybrid
But what does crack have that VU Doesn't ?

Good support
Lol jk*
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^^ Lol ^^

Try flashing a rom once a week test it out. We can sit here day and night explaining things to you. pick one out, if you dont like flash another.
Its easy to do, then make nandroids, they are saved in order. We have like 6 roms, you can have them all nandroided and switch at ease.

I no how. I just thought I'd ask. I'll try em all shame the Dev section doesn't seem to have a lot interested ATM ):

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I no how. I just thought I'd ask. I'll try em all shame the Dev section doesn't seem to have a lot interested ATM ):
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it will change. You could always try, I know I am . It's not as hard so you think, just need ALOT OF TIME.
Time, my other projects and life always seem to delay me .
P.S Undeak9 is a rockstar crackhead ( i think he changed drinks lol).

Anyone Know about ICS with Sense

Hi all,
I've give a shoot of ICS alpha version these few days (no HTC's Sense), and I doubt if anyone or team working to combine the Sense for example 3.5?
Thanks,

It is unlikely that someone will do it now, except the manufacturer.
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I also surfing around... but not found any information. I wish someone could working on that...

Most likely it will be closer to mid-2012
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most probably but there is not a stable ICS still. we should wait for this first

I currently use ICS-b4r1 from superkid and m-dj. I really like, although there are some points that should be corrected in future releases.
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fanatcom said:
I currently use ICS-b4r1 from superkid and m-dj. I really like, although there are some points that should be corrected in future releases.
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Yes, I use for it for two days, still return back to ROM that consisted Sense
I do wish our heroS here able to figure out (ICS+Sense) as ONE.

ICS
I'm currently using ICS Beta 4r1 version in my Desire S. It is not stable yet. But I like this OS and I'm using it for few days. Well, Camera and headphone doesn't seem to work for me.

imkr said:
Yes, I use for it for two days, still return back to ROM that consisted Sense
I do wish our heroS here able to figure out (ICS+Sense) as ONE.
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Please understand that this will not happen until HTC release a phone / update that has ics with sense
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cm9 official status

Is there anywhere to go see the status or problems finalizing cm9 for the shift? I know there are a lot of phones/tablets that are already getting nightlies. I'm not asking an eta. I know it will come when it comes. Just wondering if there is a place to view the progress from the official cm team.
I've googled several different ways.
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I'm not sure the shift will see official cm9, the ONLY reason it seen cm7 was because of toast
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were waiting for a kernel for ics that is the main thing hold us back from 4g hardware accelleration etc.. someone correct me if i am wrong

Bfitz26 said:
were waiting for a kernel for ics that is the main thing hold us back from 4g hardware accelleration etc.. someone correct me if i am wrong
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Well if you look Zen has a cm9 posted, so the aosp ICS kernel is there, It's more so waiting on HTC to release ICS Sense Source to a similar device so the kernel can be ported, but then you also have to look at will any ICS Sense builds have WiMax? Most likely if the kernel is ported from Kingdom but It's all up in the air right now while everyone scatters to get ICS LOL that's just my opinion though
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yeah i meant kernel source to be ported i do relize we do have a kernel but yeah from what i understand once the design or the g2 gets it will give us more hope and once we do have a more official build i plan on porting aokp

Bfitz26 said:
yeah i meant kernel source to be ported i do relize we do have a kernel but yeah from what i understand once the design or the g2 gets it will give us more hope and once we do have a more official build i plan on porting aokp
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Not sure if WiMax would work in a gsm kernel, but I'm no kernel dev
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Waiting for Zenulator to post his source so other devs can work on it.

In regards to wimax, Is that a kernel issue in that each phone has to have that added in seperately, or would it be an easy port once people figure out how to get it working on phones like the 3d? I remember reading on twitter that toast was working on getting wimax onto cm9... so i was wondering if that would translate to us eventually getting it as well

strapped365 said:
I'm not sure the shift will see official cm9, the ONLY reason it seen cm7 was because of toast
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Good thing toast is still active with the shift. :-D
Shifted from Outer Space

4G is built into the kernel. 4G won't be the tough thing, getting a kernel functioning properly is the tough part... I've been working on it here and there but a new job, baseball, softball, wife and kids have been keeping me fairly occupied... I keep up with the good kernel devs on twitter...
Strapped, the kernel I ported from the g2 has wimax, it just has to be written into the source or enabled in menuconfig....
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drob311 said:
4G is built into the kernel. 4G won't be the tough thing, getting a kernel functioning properly is the tough part... I've been working on it here and there but a new job, baseball, softball, wife and kids have been keeping me fairly occupied... I keep up with the good kernel devs on twitter...
Strapped, the kernel I ported from the g2 has wimax, it just has to be written into the source or enabled in menuconfig....
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NICE, been a while since i seen you post, i figured work had gotten you busy with the season and all, btw i finally oc the doubleshot to 1.9 lol 2Ghz wouldnt even boot.
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Sense 4

I was wondering if anybody is working on sense 4 for this phone and if anyone is make a port for us.
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I believe some devs are but with no kernel source from the desire z or g2 its gonna be a while
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But there's a fully bootable Sense 4 build for the Desire Z and G2, couldn't they just use needed elements of the Kernel source that's booting those builds?

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But there's a fully bootable Sense 4 build for the Desire Z and G2, couldn't they just use needed elements of the Kernel source that's booting those builds?
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We could but I personally don't have the time or the skill to write a whole new kernel source... As for the booting versions for the desire hd and g2, I believe the kernel is a 2.6.35.14 version, hacked to work with ics...
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That's probably along the lines of whats gonna be required. I don't see HTC releasing a compatible Kernel for a device they've already determined EOL on.

TDJ512 said:
That's probably along the lines of whats gonna be required. I don't see HTC releasing a compatible Kernel for a device they've already determined EOL on.
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The design and desire hd are both getting ics... The design has the exact same processor as shift. Once that source is released, it will definitely make things less challenging... I can add a device to a source, just happens to be extremely time consuming because it's somewhere around 5000 edits. I'll have a million errors to fix, which is even more time consuming... But the good news is that I started working on it (adding shift to 2.6.35.14 kernel modded for ics) a month or so ago, the bad news is that it still needs endless hours of work... I can't honestly say if I'll ever get it, but, i.m.o., it's definitely worth a shot... :beer:
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drob311 said:
The design and desire hd are both getting ics... The design has the exact same processor as shift. Once that source is released, it will definitely make things less challenging... I can add a device to a source, just happens to be extremely time consuming because it's somewhere around 5000 edits. I'll have a million errors to fix, which is even more time consuming... But the good news is that I started working on it (adding shift to 2.6.35.14 kernel modded for ics) a month or so ago, the bad news is that it still needs endless hours of work... I can't honestly say if I'll ever get it, but, i.m.o., it's definitely worth a shot... :beer:
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Had someone in the doubleshot forums say them devices are only getting sense 3.5 ICS? And that sense 4 was reserved for the one series because of their camera chip or something. Hell I don't know I don't keep current with what's being released I just keep my current phone faster and better than what's being released
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All HTC devices that are getting ICS excluding the one series are getting sense 3.6 which is basically sense 3.5 on ICS but with a few new things like the Rosie has 5 icons and u can change 4 of em and whatever apps are on the dock are your lockscreen shortcuts. Nothing major that I've noticed. Running it on my evo3d now. The design has an ICS leak already I can link to it if you guys want.
And don't you guys already have a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS? On the evo3d we can boot up CM9 with the 3.0 kernel from the leak we got and before we got the 3.0 kernel we were booting up sense 4.0 with the tiamat kernel
AND you guys have working ICS roms to base it off as a start.
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pwnyourace said:
All HTC devices that are getting ICS excluding the one series are getting sense 3.6 which is basically sense 3.5 on ICS but with a few new things like the Rosie has 5 icons and u can change 4 of em and whatever apps are on the dock are your lockscreen shortcuts. Nothing major that I've noticed. Running it on my evo3d now. The design has an ICS leak already I can link to it if you guys want.
And don't you guys already have a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS? On the evo3d we can boot up CM9 with the 3.0 kernel from the leak we got and before we got the 3.0 kernel we were booting up sense 4.0 with the tiamat kernel
AND you guys have working ICS roms to base it off as a start.
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Doesn't work, myself and a few other devs have tried to use tiamat and it won't boot... No we don't have the hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel, I'm working on porting it but I'm getting an error about the eng hboot... The design stuff won't work until we can resize it, shift is 3.6" wvga resolution and design is 4" qhd resolution. We have already thought about and or tried all the recommendations here... It isn't going to be as easy as you think... As for sense 4.0, we should get the ROM, but it will prolly never have a fully functioning camera. Strapped is right, the one series has a new imaging chip, that's not compatable with shift...
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drob311 said:
Doesn't work, myself and a few other devs have tried to use tiamat and it won't boot... No we don't have the hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel, I'm working on porting it but I'm getting an error about the eng hboot... The design stuff won't work until we can resize it, shift is 3.6" wvga resolution and design is 4" qhd resolution. We have already thought about and or tried all the recommendations here... It isn't going to be as easy as you think... As for sense 4.0, we should get the ROM, but it will prolly never have a fully functioning camera. Strapped is right, the one series has a new imaging chip, that's not compatable with shift...
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Well the best thing we can do is wait and hope our devs can make a great Rom
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B RAD G 296 said:
Well the best thing we can do is wait and hope our devs can make a great Rom
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Our devs have already made great ROMs.
Kudos to those who've kept us busy with all the new things to flash.
ICS+Sense 4.0+4G would just be icing on the cake.

Sonkway said:
Our devs have already made great ROMs.
Kudos to those who've kept us busy with all the new things to flash.
ICS+Sense 4.0+4G would just be icing on the cake.
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I was talking about sense 4 time or 3.6
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Tiamat kernel is a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS or else it wouldn't boot CM9. Not saying its got everything it needs to boot sense 3.6 but the base is there. Chad.Goodman over at infectedrom.com (goes by kernelchef now) might be able to help with getting the kernel changes to boot sense 3.6 because he's done it on our 3D's. As for the camera chip on sense 4.0 you mentioned, the 3D doesn't have the chip and we have our camera working. Joelz was working on a sense 3.6 port before we got our leak so he could probably share some knowledge about it. I think he was the one that got the camera going on sense 4.0 also (Some refer to him as the porting god). And newtoroot has fixed like everything on his sense 4.0 ports. And as for the resizing, its been done for the shift there's kingdom ports for sense 3.0. Yea, I know this ain't easy and I'm not trying to make it seem like it is, but its been done. And I'd try and get something cooking but I don't have my shift anymore.
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Tiamat kernel is a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS or else it wouldn't boot CM9. Not saying its got everything it needs to boot sense 3.6 but the base is there. Chad.Goodman over at infectedrom.com (goes by kernelchef now) might be able to help with getting the kernel changes to boot sense 3.6 because he's done it on our 3D's. As for the camera chip on sense 4.0 you mentioned, the 3D doesn't have the chip and we have our camera working. Joelz was working on a sense 3.6 port before we got our leak so he could probably share some knowledge about it. I think he was the one that got the camera going on sense 4.0 also (Some refer to him as the porting god). And newtoroot has fixed like everything on his sense 4.0 ports. And as for the resizing, its been done for the shift there's kingdom ports for sense 3.0. Yea, I know this ain't easy and I'm not trying to make it seem like it is, but its been done. And I'd try and get something cooking but I don't have my shift anymore.
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Pretty tough to talk to those devs' when they don't return messages... We'll figure it out... One way or another...
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drob311 said:
Pretty tough to talk to those devs' when they don't return messages... We'll figure it out... One way or another...
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Chad might be a toughie but joelz is usually good about replying to PMs and he's also got a twitter. If you can't get a hold of newtoroot on here try over at themikmik
I'm just trying to help with people to talk to since I've watched the development well..develop on the 3D. I'm an ungrateful flasher when it comes to sense roms I tear anything HTC related right out and replace it with AOSP apps. Its really cool on ICS you can even replace things like the systemui with AOSP so u get the status bar and drop down and everything
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I really like the Evo Shift. The fact that its probably gonna be the last Sense device for the foreseeable future that has a hardware QWERTY, Its gonna be real hard to move on from it because every Android phone I've ever owned has had 1. I'm not a fan at all of phones that don't have 1. However, not having Sense 4 really sucks considering this phone isn't really all that old. HTC/Sprint should have brought us to Sense 4. The Evo was out what A year before the Shift give or take? Its total BS the EOL is confirmed along side it.

It's really hard to port this rom because of how large sense 4.0 rom is. Over 500mb. I've tried and failed with a non boot start. Lol, I'll keep trying Hopefully I can get the rom working and everyone can enjoy!

megaghostgamer said:
It's really hard to port this rom because of how large sense 4.0 rom is. Over 500mb. I've tried and failed with a non boot start. Lol, I'll keep trying Hopefully I can get the rom working and everyone can enjoy!
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You don't have a kernel to boot Sense 4 with so I would just stop
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still no correct kernel out there? I tried porting the evo 4G one to us, then I tried the evo 3D

megaghostgamer said:
still no correct kernel out there? I tried porting the evo 4G one to us, then I tried the evo 3D
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I imagine it is pretty hard to port a kernel. Going to try some research later and see about it....:thumbdown:
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which rom is the best right now?

which rom is the best right now? i mean very few bugs, and fast?

VIRTUOUS INFINITY ALPHA 3 BETA 1 http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30873-virtuous-infinity-v1330-alpha3-general/page__st__290 :good:

An alpha build but also a beta? @[email protected]
Anyways I suggest MikXE
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VIRTUOUS INFINITY ALPHA 3 BETA 1 http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30873-virtuous-infinity-v1330-alpha3-general/page__st__290 :good:
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Also is the FM Radio speaker bug still there?

fozzy501 said:
which rom is the best right now? i mean very few bugs, and fast?
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BOY, now THERE'S a loaded question! LOL
MikTouch, BulletProof (both GB)
MikMiuiICS, MikXE & Virtuous Inquisition (all ICS)
My PERSONAL favorites and all rock solid.
(just getting ready to try out the 1st Beta release of Virtuous Infinity tho.....)

Virtuous Inquisition has always been the one I go back to. I always go back whenever I have school, as I am usually too preoccupied with other thoughts to remember to charge. One charge for me lasts days, The ROM itself is quite fast, and I doubt you would be disappointed.

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Virtuous Inquisition has always been the one I go back to. I always go back whenever I have school, as I am usually too preoccupied with other thoughts to remember to charge. One charge for me lasts days, The ROM itself is quite fast, and I doubt you would be disappointed.
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alright ill give it a try. where do i download it? and it is for the mytouch 4g slide ?

fozzy501 said:
alright ill give it a try. where do i download it? and it is for the mytouch 4g slide ?
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Hopefully, you will ALWAYS be able to find the best of everything that's been created for the MT4Gs right here...... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835645
At least, that's my intention. Our developers and our users deserve backup.

Which one do u recommend for me in that page?
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fozzy501 said:
Which one do u recommend for me in that page?
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WeekendsR2Short said:
BOY, now THERE'S a loaded question! LOL
MikTouch, BulletProof (both GB)
MikMiuiICS, MikXE & Virtuous Inquisition (all ICS)
My PERSONAL favorites and all rock solid.
(just getting ready to try out the 1st Beta release of Virtuous Infinity tho.....)
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I personally recommend either Virtuous Infinity if you want Sense or CM if you don't. I haven't flashed CM9.1 yet - downloading now over 2G.
I had good experiences with Miktouch as well in GB, and I really liked Paranoid Android though it made me wish my phone had a bigger screen.
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