I was wondering if anybody is working on sense 4 for this phone and if anyone is make a port for us.
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I believe some devs are but with no kernel source from the desire z or g2 its gonna be a while
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But there's a fully bootable Sense 4 build for the Desire Z and G2, couldn't they just use needed elements of the Kernel source that's booting those builds?
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But there's a fully bootable Sense 4 build for the Desire Z and G2, couldn't they just use needed elements of the Kernel source that's booting those builds?
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We could but I personally don't have the time or the skill to write a whole new kernel source... As for the booting versions for the desire hd and g2, I believe the kernel is a 2.6.35.14 version, hacked to work with ics...
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That's probably along the lines of whats gonna be required. I don't see HTC releasing a compatible Kernel for a device they've already determined EOL on.
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That's probably along the lines of whats gonna be required. I don't see HTC releasing a compatible Kernel for a device they've already determined EOL on.
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The design and desire hd are both getting ics... The design has the exact same processor as shift. Once that source is released, it will definitely make things less challenging... I can add a device to a source, just happens to be extremely time consuming because it's somewhere around 5000 edits. I'll have a million errors to fix, which is even more time consuming... But the good news is that I started working on it (adding shift to 2.6.35.14 kernel modded for ics) a month or so ago, the bad news is that it still needs endless hours of work... I can't honestly say if I'll ever get it, but, i.m.o., it's definitely worth a shot... :beer:
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The design and desire hd are both getting ics... The design has the exact same processor as shift. Once that source is released, it will definitely make things less challenging... I can add a device to a source, just happens to be extremely time consuming because it's somewhere around 5000 edits. I'll have a million errors to fix, which is even more time consuming... But the good news is that I started working on it (adding shift to 2.6.35.14 kernel modded for ics) a month or so ago, the bad news is that it still needs endless hours of work... I can't honestly say if I'll ever get it, but, i.m.o., it's definitely worth a shot... :beer:
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Had someone in the doubleshot forums say them devices are only getting sense 3.5 ICS? And that sense 4 was reserved for the one series because of their camera chip or something. Hell I don't know I don't keep current with what's being released I just keep my current phone faster and better than what's being released
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All HTC devices that are getting ICS excluding the one series are getting sense 3.6 which is basically sense 3.5 on ICS but with a few new things like the Rosie has 5 icons and u can change 4 of em and whatever apps are on the dock are your lockscreen shortcuts. Nothing major that I've noticed. Running it on my evo3d now. The design has an ICS leak already I can link to it if you guys want.
And don't you guys already have a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS? On the evo3d we can boot up CM9 with the 3.0 kernel from the leak we got and before we got the 3.0 kernel we were booting up sense 4.0 with the tiamat kernel
AND you guys have working ICS roms to base it off as a start.
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All HTC devices that are getting ICS excluding the one series are getting sense 3.6 which is basically sense 3.5 on ICS but with a few new things like the Rosie has 5 icons and u can change 4 of em and whatever apps are on the dock are your lockscreen shortcuts. Nothing major that I've noticed. Running it on my evo3d now. The design has an ICS leak already I can link to it if you guys want.
And don't you guys already have a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS? On the evo3d we can boot up CM9 with the 3.0 kernel from the leak we got and before we got the 3.0 kernel we were booting up sense 4.0 with the tiamat kernel
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Doesn't work, myself and a few other devs have tried to use tiamat and it won't boot... No we don't have the hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel, I'm working on porting it but I'm getting an error about the eng hboot... The design stuff won't work until we can resize it, shift is 3.6" wvga resolution and design is 4" qhd resolution. We have already thought about and or tried all the recommendations here... It isn't going to be as easy as you think... As for sense 4.0, we should get the ROM, but it will prolly never have a fully functioning camera. Strapped is right, the one series has a new imaging chip, that's not compatable with shift...
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Doesn't work, myself and a few other devs have tried to use tiamat and it won't boot... No we don't have the hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel, I'm working on porting it but I'm getting an error about the eng hboot... The design stuff won't work until we can resize it, shift is 3.6" wvga resolution and design is 4" qhd resolution. We have already thought about and or tried all the recommendations here... It isn't going to be as easy as you think... As for sense 4.0, we should get the ROM, but it will prolly never have a fully functioning camera. Strapped is right, the one series has a new imaging chip, that's not compatable with shift...
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Well the best thing we can do is wait and hope our devs can make a great Rom
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Well the best thing we can do is wait and hope our devs can make a great Rom
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Our devs have already made great ROMs.
Kudos to those who've kept us busy with all the new things to flash.
ICS+Sense 4.0+4G would just be icing on the cake.
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Our devs have already made great ROMs.
Kudos to those who've kept us busy with all the new things to flash.
ICS+Sense 4.0+4G would just be icing on the cake.
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I was talking about sense 4 time or 3.6
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Tiamat kernel is a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS or else it wouldn't boot CM9. Not saying its got everything it needs to boot sense 3.6 but the base is there. Chad.Goodman over at infectedrom.com (goes by kernelchef now) might be able to help with getting the kernel changes to boot sense 3.6 because he's done it on our 3D's. As for the camera chip on sense 4.0 you mentioned, the 3D doesn't have the chip and we have our camera working. Joelz was working on a sense 3.6 port before we got our leak so he could probably share some knowledge about it. I think he was the one that got the camera going on sense 4.0 also (Some refer to him as the porting god). And newtoroot has fixed like everything on his sense 4.0 ports. And as for the resizing, its been done for the shift there's kingdom ports for sense 3.0. Yea, I know this ain't easy and I'm not trying to make it seem like it is, but its been done. And I'd try and get something cooking but I don't have my shift anymore.
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Tiamat kernel is a hacked 2.6.35.14 kernel for ICS or else it wouldn't boot CM9. Not saying its got everything it needs to boot sense 3.6 but the base is there. Chad.Goodman over at infectedrom.com (goes by kernelchef now) might be able to help with getting the kernel changes to boot sense 3.6 because he's done it on our 3D's. As for the camera chip on sense 4.0 you mentioned, the 3D doesn't have the chip and we have our camera working. Joelz was working on a sense 3.6 port before we got our leak so he could probably share some knowledge about it. I think he was the one that got the camera going on sense 4.0 also (Some refer to him as the porting god). And newtoroot has fixed like everything on his sense 4.0 ports. And as for the resizing, its been done for the shift there's kingdom ports for sense 3.0. Yea, I know this ain't easy and I'm not trying to make it seem like it is, but its been done. And I'd try and get something cooking but I don't have my shift anymore.
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Pretty tough to talk to those devs' when they don't return messages... We'll figure it out... One way or another...
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Pretty tough to talk to those devs' when they don't return messages... We'll figure it out... One way or another...
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Chad might be a toughie but joelz is usually good about replying to PMs and he's also got a twitter. If you can't get a hold of newtoroot on here try over at themikmik
I'm just trying to help with people to talk to since I've watched the development well..develop on the 3D. I'm an ungrateful flasher when it comes to sense roms I tear anything HTC related right out and replace it with AOSP apps. Its really cool on ICS you can even replace things like the systemui with AOSP so u get the status bar and drop down and everything
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I really like the Evo Shift. The fact that its probably gonna be the last Sense device for the foreseeable future that has a hardware QWERTY, Its gonna be real hard to move on from it because every Android phone I've ever owned has had 1. I'm not a fan at all of phones that don't have 1. However, not having Sense 4 really sucks considering this phone isn't really all that old. HTC/Sprint should have brought us to Sense 4. The Evo was out what A year before the Shift give or take? Its total BS the EOL is confirmed along side it.
It's really hard to port this rom because of how large sense 4.0 rom is. Over 500mb. I've tried and failed with a non boot start. Lol, I'll keep trying Hopefully I can get the rom working and everyone can enjoy!
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It's really hard to port this rom because of how large sense 4.0 rom is. Over 500mb. I've tried and failed with a non boot start. Lol, I'll keep trying Hopefully I can get the rom working and everyone can enjoy!
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You don't have a kernel to boot Sense 4 with so I would just stop
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still no correct kernel out there? I tried porting the evo 4G one to us, then I tried the evo 3D
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still no correct kernel out there? I tried porting the evo 4G one to us, then I tried the evo 3D
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I imagine it is pretty hard to port a kernel. Going to try some research later and see about it....:thumbdown:
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Is there a soul daring enough to take on porting Sense 3.0 from our G2x's lil brother the G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067371
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Is there a soul daring enough to take on porting Sense 3.0 from our G2x's lil brother the G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067371
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I want this......
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No thanks. We have cm7 now and someone is starting an aosp rom....you want sense get an htc phone...
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No thanks. We have cm7 now and someone is starting an aosp rom....you want sense get an htc phone...
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Isnt the point of Roms to have the UI without having to get the phone.
Dont be rude.
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Isnt the point of Roms to have the UI without having to get the phone.
Dont be rude.
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Yes, but I agree - Sense is just... a waste of resources Nothing better than the good ole cm7
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Yes, but I agree - Sense is just... a waste of resources Nothing better than the good ole cm7
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Not everyone likes CM7. But I'm not feeling HTC Sense on this phone either...I like the leaked GB Rom.
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A request in the development section....
G2X
sense 3.0 YES!!!!
i would love a sense rom on this phone! not a fan of gb or cm7. they are good roms but sense is nice and even if takes resources the g2x has plenty to spare, wouldnt affect much on it. my hd2 ran sense beautifully and as bad ass a phone as it was it wasnt quite the powerhouse i have now. sense would be nice addition to the rom dev for those of us who enjoy that type of ui.
thanks in advance to any devs that work on a sense rom for this phone
I cant believe ya really dont want sense one this beautiful phone >_>
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+1 To this. A wide range of roms for a wide range of people is what we need on a phone. Sense brings a lot of features that stock doesn't have and an ease of use that people like. I'm looking forward to sense on the g2x,and miui, and gs2 twiz, etc. bring on the variety!
i would like to test different roms on this phone. i like miui, gingerbread, aosp, and sense. You know what i dont like STOCK. so lets bring whatever roms we can get to our side. If we didnt have ANY ROMS to flash people would be complaining. Be grateful. I dont really see what the big dispute is about. If you dont like it DONT FLASH IT. Problem solved. Some builds bring different things to the device. Gingerbread doesnt cover everything. Whatever rom is posted i flash it, if i dont like it i flash back. Some of you just want to be difficult.
Heck yeah I would want sense. CM7 is nice. If they get sense ported on here, I bet it will be faster than the sensation. The sensation only gets like 1300 in quadrant. Don't give me that quadrant isn't optimized for gingerbread cause it is. I'm sure this phone would be like 2000 via quadrant with sense added
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I love CM7 but when I wanna show off to my buddies I'll flash a sense rom. So 95% of the time CM7 will be installed. I just like having alot of rom options. Also as many roms/kernels as possible.
what!
did he say hd2 ran sense beautifully? what magical phone did he have? lol
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i would love a sense rom on this phone! not a fan of gb or cm7. they are good roms but sense is nice and even if takes resources the g2x has plenty to spare, wouldnt affect much on it. my hd2 ran sense beautifully and as bad ass a phone as it was it wasnt quite the powerhouse i have now. sense would be nice addition to the rom dev for those of us who enjoy that type of ui.
thanks in advance to any devs that work on a sense rom for this phone
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I'm hoping we can bring sense over also...
Tired of seeing everybody talk down about it on this phone
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i would like to test different roms on this phone. i like miui, gingerbread, aosp, and sense. You know what i dont like STOCK. so lets bring whatever roms we can get to our side. If we didnt have ANY ROMS to flash people would be complaining. Be grateful. I dont really see what the big dispute is about. If you dont like it DONT FLASH IT. Problem solved. Some builds bring different things to the device. Gingerbread doesnt cover everything. Whatever rom is posted i flash it, if i dont like it i flash back. Some of you just want to be difficult.
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did he say hd2 ran sense beautifully? what magical phone did he have? lol
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I had sense on my hd2 and it did run nice. Nand build that is.
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I agree with you 100%. I'm beyond bored with the stock build. sense on this phone would be bad ass. I did find a cool app that makes the phone look sense-like. "Lp sense ui".
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I know after reading there has been tons of hard work put into ROMs by devs, but it is just a simple question - is there just not enough people having this device yet, or because not many devs are interested, or because simply the source is not out yet? I got the phone but I am not too pleased with the myTouch Sense it has and would want either Sense 3.0 or 3.5 Runnymede on this. Not rushing anyone, just wondering is the possibility there once source is out, or something else is up.
Vitruous is working working on sense 3.0 for our device. I am working on porting bliss sense but I am stuck for the time being. I believe vitruous is having a lib issue like I am.
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Thanks undead for the quick response. I still haven't gotten my phone yet but I've been lurking on your Sense debloat thread and even though I haven't flashed it I can see you've done a lot for the community. Thanks for the hardwork
I'm doing the best I can. Without source its very hard to go crazy and unlock this phones inner beast.
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Did someone try 'V6 SuperCharger'?
I set to multitask as first, now i on 768MB set-up. but not sure if it helps.
it doesn't hurt . i use the undeadk9 sense rom.
There really isnt a need for supercharger v6 mod for our device. We have so much ram and a dual core processor.
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Hi all,
I've give a shoot of ICS alpha version these few days (no HTC's Sense), and I doubt if anyone or team working to combine the Sense for example 3.5?
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It is unlikely that someone will do it now, except the manufacturer.
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I also surfing around... but not found any information. I wish someone could working on that...
Most likely it will be closer to mid-2012
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most probably but there is not a stable ICS still. we should wait for this first
I currently use ICS-b4r1 from superkid and m-dj. I really like, although there are some points that should be corrected in future releases.
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I currently use ICS-b4r1 from superkid and m-dj. I really like, although there are some points that should be corrected in future releases.
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Yes, I use for it for two days, still return back to ROM that consisted Sense
I do wish our heroS here able to figure out (ICS+Sense) as ONE.
ICS
I'm currently using ICS Beta 4r1 version in my Desire S. It is not stable yet. But I like this OS and I'm using it for few days. Well, Camera and headphone doesn't seem to work for me.
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Yes, I use for it for two days, still return back to ROM that consisted Sense
I do wish our heroS here able to figure out (ICS+Sense) as ONE.
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Please understand that this will not happen until HTC release a phone / update that has ics with sense
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Is it possible to get sense 4.0?
Not yet, but be paticent .
We need a compatable kernel source...
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What I read was sense 4.0 only goes to phones that are made for ics and the phones that get updated from gingerbread to ics get sense 3.6 which is pretty much the same but that has to do with hardware issues
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Yea YoungCorruption is right, the EVO 3D, Sensation etc are all getting Sense 3.6 with "as many Sense 4.0 features we can include" says HTC.
New phones will get Sense 4.0, and this is mostly because of the ImageSense chip in the new HTC phones which current phones do not have.
Honestly I will be suprised to see the shift get sense 3.6, but no matter what eventually their will be ports of Sense 4.0, Sense 3.6 etc. Hell the One V Leak just showed itself ill probably post on general later
Kinda weird that no one has started the porting. I know there isn't a compatible kernel source out there yet. I'll be looking out for one, if I come across one I'll let you know! Thank you for helping our Shifts get sense 4.0!
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Kinda weird that no one has started the porting. I know there isn't a compatible kernel source out there yet. I'll be looking out for one, if I come across one I'll let you know! Thank you for helping our Shifts get sense 4.0!
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Not that weird. It's considerably more difficult, if not impossible to port a Rom without a Kernel.
I'm trying to port. Crossing fingers. Lol. Hopefully I can get it. I've tried many different sense roms but maybe this might be the one lol. I hope I can get it up and working for everyone
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I'm trying to port. Crossing fingers. Lol. Hopefully I can get it. I've tried many different sense roms but maybe this might be the one lol. I hope I can get it up and working for everyone
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Your not going to be able to port it without a kernel
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Like i said on a previus post try to get a kernal from a similar phone and there are some out there i searched
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Like i said on a previus post try to get a kernal from a similar phone and there are some out there i searched
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Well then I'm sure you also know how to compile a kernel? I mean if its as easy as your saying you could do this in your sleep no? If you can compile it then do so, that way development goes farther otherwise what you saying don't really mean anything
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I dont have time to do anything at the moment this is my last year in school and i have test to study for untill then
But i did look in to how to port kernals its no easy task
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Well then I'm sure you also know how to compile a kernel? I mean if its as easy as your saying you could do this in your sleep no? If you can compile it then do so, that way development goes farther otherwise what you saying don't really mean anything
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U didnt understand what im trying to say.
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Is there anywhere to go see the status or problems finalizing cm9 for the shift? I know there are a lot of phones/tablets that are already getting nightlies. I'm not asking an eta. I know it will come when it comes. Just wondering if there is a place to view the progress from the official cm team.
I've googled several different ways.
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I'm not sure the shift will see official cm9, the ONLY reason it seen cm7 was because of toast
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were waiting for a kernel for ics that is the main thing hold us back from 4g hardware accelleration etc.. someone correct me if i am wrong
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were waiting for a kernel for ics that is the main thing hold us back from 4g hardware accelleration etc.. someone correct me if i am wrong
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Well if you look Zen has a cm9 posted, so the aosp ICS kernel is there, It's more so waiting on HTC to release ICS Sense Source to a similar device so the kernel can be ported, but then you also have to look at will any ICS Sense builds have WiMax? Most likely if the kernel is ported from Kingdom but It's all up in the air right now while everyone scatters to get ICS LOL that's just my opinion though
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yeah i meant kernel source to be ported i do relize we do have a kernel but yeah from what i understand once the design or the g2 gets it will give us more hope and once we do have a more official build i plan on porting aokp
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yeah i meant kernel source to be ported i do relize we do have a kernel but yeah from what i understand once the design or the g2 gets it will give us more hope and once we do have a more official build i plan on porting aokp
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Not sure if WiMax would work in a gsm kernel, but I'm no kernel dev
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Waiting for Zenulator to post his source so other devs can work on it.
In regards to wimax, Is that a kernel issue in that each phone has to have that added in seperately, or would it be an easy port once people figure out how to get it working on phones like the 3d? I remember reading on twitter that toast was working on getting wimax onto cm9... so i was wondering if that would translate to us eventually getting it as well
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I'm not sure the shift will see official cm9, the ONLY reason it seen cm7 was because of toast
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Good thing toast is still active with the shift. :-D
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4G is built into the kernel. 4G won't be the tough thing, getting a kernel functioning properly is the tough part... I've been working on it here and there but a new job, baseball, softball, wife and kids have been keeping me fairly occupied... I keep up with the good kernel devs on twitter...
Strapped, the kernel I ported from the g2 has wimax, it just has to be written into the source or enabled in menuconfig....
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4G is built into the kernel. 4G won't be the tough thing, getting a kernel functioning properly is the tough part... I've been working on it here and there but a new job, baseball, softball, wife and kids have been keeping me fairly occupied... I keep up with the good kernel devs on twitter...
Strapped, the kernel I ported from the g2 has wimax, it just has to be written into the source or enabled in menuconfig....
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NICE, been a while since i seen you post, i figured work had gotten you busy with the season and all, btw i finally oc the doubleshot to 1.9 lol 2Ghz wouldnt even boot.
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