Buyers Beware...T-Mobile Phones - General Topics

If you guys don't know T-Mobile has started blacklisting IMEIs of devices with unpaid accounts, stolen devices etc
I've seen a few threads with people saying their phone randomly stopped working one day, the SIM wouldn't pick up signal. There is a few things that could have happened, since SIM cards do go bad. But if it's a phone you bought on Craigslist/eBay/BST forum etc beware you can get screwed down the road. If someone gets a phone on one of the new value plans and decides to cancel service after selling the device and it goes unpaid you will have a brick. If they don't cancel service and sell the phone, then report it stolen, you will have a brick. There is MANY scenarios, people things oh hey this phone is $200, I can sell it for $450 and cancel the line and I've made $250...well the end user will now have a no longer working phone. that's just the start of it.
Just beware when buying phones online, this has always been the case for Sprint/Verizon...but now T-Mobile has started doing the same. not sure about AT&T since I don't have personal experience with them about blacklisting IMEI.

I don't see how this would affect say an att user. They can just sim unlocked the phone and use it
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I might be wrong here, but isn't the signal sent to the SIM? If the IMEI is never actually attached to your line (in the system) theoretically it still wouldn't matter. i.e. I found a Blackberry and decided I would try the $50 TMO prepaid deal. I stopped by the store and bought a SIM but didn't have the phone with me. He said no problem, activated the SIM and sent me on my way and the BB worked.

is this even legal? aren't the phones on contract technically provided as a 'free gift' and therefore property of the buyer from day one?

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is this even legal? aren't the phones on contract technically provided as a 'free gift' and therefore property of the buyer from day one?
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I believe it is legal. You first have to realize there is no such thing as a 'free' or 'subsidized' phone. You either pay full price upfront or in payments via the monthly service charge. One way or another, providers are gonna get the phone paid for. T-Mobile is the only major US provider that offers cheaper rates if you own your phone.
But...if you get a phone 'free' or 'subsidized' you have to think of it as similar to financing a car. You get to use the car but the bank has a financial interest in it - actually contractually owns it - until you pay it off. That's why they can legally repossess it if you fail to pay. Similarly, until you fulfill your service contract or pay the exit fee the provider has a financial interest in the phone, and by contract, certain legal rights.
Not a perfect analogy but I hope it makes things clearer.
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chibixzero said:
I don't see how this would affect say an att user. They can just sim unlocked the phone and use it
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I don't think the SIM will work if the imei is blocked. sIm lock Is totally dIfferent to ImeI block. Imei is how the phone gets it signal. It identifies the handset(not the SIM).
If an imei is blocked in UK then it will not work on any network in UK, but it will work on networks in other countries as there is not an international imei data base there are only national one at the minute. It is not 100% certain to work in another country but it would more than likely work. But for instance O2 in UK is owned by Spanish company Telefonica so an o2 phone blocked by imei may not work in Spain and vice versa.
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It is possible to change the imei number of a phone, but I know in the UK it IS ILLEGAL to do this.
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Very informative
It's unfortunate that sometimes people are dishonest or unethical even more so when selling anonymously through the internet.
As always in purchasing toys, do your homework and if a deal seems to good to be true..... it probably is.

Thebeast715 said:
It's unfortunate that sometimes people are dishonest or unethical even more so when selling anonymously through the internet.
As always in purchasing toys, do your homework and if a deal seems to good to be true..... it probably is.
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Very very true:thumbup:
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gavmac said:
It is possible to change the imei number of a phone, but I know in the UK it IS ILLEGAL to do this.
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It is in the states as well
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Wow,so att the one company that doesnt practice this
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[Q] Want to flash My s3 from sprint to verizon

Hello everyone.
i just got my s3 and i am in love with it. the only thing i hate is paying 100 a month for sprint service. i have the s2 also from sprint but its flashed to verizon and want to do the same with my s3. can someone please give me sum info or a place that has step by step instruction for noobs plus what software to use and where to get it.
please im broke and i want to do this b4 my next sprint bill comes in. ty all
First of all, I'm not sure if what you're asking is legal since you're likely going to be cheating Verizon out of money on their plan for the S3. Besides that, AFAIK QPST for the US GS3 isn't working yet, and that is a necessity for flashing to other carriers.
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I have the Samsung s3 t-mobile and Im able to connect and read the phone using cdma workshop .... I'm sure this phone is possible
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OP is referring to esn cloning, which is illegal and barred from discussion here on these boards.
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OP is referring to esn cloning, which is illegal and barred from discussion here on these boards.
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Flashing is not illegal ... he means over to pageplus
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OP is referring to esn cloning, which is illegal and barred from discussion here on these boards.
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You are so lame.
To be honest, I don't quite understand why a person cannot use his/her phone, which they bought for $600 outright, on a network of their choice.
You can do that with GSM phones. Why not with CDMA?
rdwing is right. Although the FCC law is vague when it comes to what exactly “ESN cloning" is and what sort of flashing is illegal, it IS illegal to flash to Verizon and not pay for the plan you should be paying for; for example, paying for a non-data plan but using the GS3 on that plan. That is absolutely fraud and is prohibited from discussion here.
IMHO I don't believe flashing to a carrier such as Virgin Mobile, which allows you to use any plan for any phone, is wrong or illegal. However, Verizon's large number of plans for specific types of phones makes it impossible for us to know whether or not you'll be using the phone on the proper plan.
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rdwing is right. Although the FCC law is vague when it comes to what exactly “ESN cloning" is and what sort of flashing is illegal, it IS illegal to flash to Verizon and not pay for the plan you should be paying for; for example, paying for a non-data plan but using the GS3 on that plan. That is absolutely fraud and is prohibited from discussion here.
IMHO I don't believe flashing to a carrier such as Virgin Mobile, which allows you to use any plan for any phone, is wrong or illegal. However, Verizon's large number of plans for specific types of phones makes it impossible for us to know whether or not you'll be using the phone on the proper plan.
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O'RLY? because here is a thread explicitly coaching members on how to misrepresent their smartphones as dumbphones and rape the ATT data plan that is specifically meant for non-smartphones, even though the ATT ToS calls out SIM swapping specifically. It has been allowed to prosper despite being brought to their attention because "if ATT didn't want people using the loophole they would close it" I was told. I suppose it's a fine line they have to walk, to allow or not, what's technically legal or illegal.....but I get the feeling that the admins turn a blind eye to activities as long as they are crimes against a large corporation, but if you were to do the same thing to an individual developer they would be all over it.
Hey, I'm all for getting the most for my money, but I try not to condone intentionally screwing them over even if they are a huge corporation. Admittedly it's not always easy to ride that line.....but I personally think there is something about taking advantage and being opportunistic that lends itself to expose the real moral compass of people. Most people who would make good life decisions won't intentionally go out of their way to screw anyone, company or not. Not all, but most I think. It just reflects poorly on people that do such things. We all struggle with easy opportunities.
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O'RLY? because here is a thread explicitly coaching members on how to misrepresent their smartphones as dumbphones and rape the ATT data plan that is specifically meant for non-smartphones, even though the ATT ToS calls out SIM swapping specifically. It has been allowed to prosper despite being brought to their attention because "if ATT didn't want people using the loophole they would close it" I was told. I suppose it's a fine line they have to walk, to allow or not, what's technically legal or illegal.....but I get the feeling that the admins turn a blind eye to activities as long as they are crimes against a large corporation, but if you were to do the same thing to an individual developer they would be all over it.
Hey, I'm all for getting the most for my money, but I try not to condone intentionally screwing them over even if they are a huge corporation. Admittedly it's not always easy to ride that line.....but I personally think there is something about taking advantage and being opportunistic that lends itself to expose the real moral compass of people. Most people who would make good life decisions won't intentionally go out of their way to screw anyone, company or not. Not all, but most I think. It just reflects poorly on people that do such things. We all struggle with easy opportunities.
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That's exactly what I'm saying, the smartphone plans for companies like Virgin Mobile or Boost Mobile are universal across all smartphones, making it impossible (AFAIK) to actually “cheat" the carrier out of money. I am also aware that Virgin Mobile DOES prohibit other carriers' phones in their ToS, however breaching a non-contact ToS is not illegal, it's only a way for a company to deny you service if you beach it. I'm not so sure about contact carriers like Verizon or AT&T, though...
I don't believe any of these companies deserve to be cheated out of money, I was just pointing out the fact that it is wrong to pay for a cheaper plan than what you should actually be paying for on that carrier and I was saying that the issue is non-existent on VM.
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Only way it will happen is the phone IMEI has to be activated on Verizons network. You can call them and ask them to activate the phone on the network. They may say yes but will most likely say no.
As for the rest of the talks. Using an international version of a phone will come across on the US networks as unknown. This has been the case for a while but soon will be stopping as the carriers are starting to work together to prevent non network phones on their plans.
IMEI changing is illegal and will not be talked about.
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zelendel said:
Only way it will happen is the phone IMEI has to be activated on Verizons network. You can call them and ask them to activate the phone on the network. They may say yes but will most likely say no.
As for the rest of the talks. Using an international version of a phone will come across on the US networks as unknown. This has been the case for a while but soon will be stopping as the carriers are starting to work together to prevent non network phones on their plans.
IMEI changing is illegal and will not be talked about.
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CDMA providers don't use IMEI; Verizon and Sprint only use it for LTE (a GSM technology), and considering that the OP would not be able to use the LTE anyway because Sprint and Verizon use different LTE bands, this seems a non-issue (as he would not need to change his IMEI).
He would, however, need to change his ESN, and as I stated earlier, the legality of it is questionable but unlikely if he is switching his phone to Verizon.
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elfhater said:
CDMA providers don't use IMEI; Verizon and Sprint only use it for LTE (a GSM technology), and considering that the OP would not be able to use the LTE anyway because Sprint and Verizon use different LTE bands, this seems a non-issue (as he would not need to change his IMEI).
He would, however, need to change his ESN, and as I stated earlier, the legality of it is questionable but unlikely if he is switching his phone to Verizon.
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right, how is this any different than changing the SIM card and activating it on a network that is explicitly excluded from that use per the ToS? IMEI, ESN, or SIM......it's all semantics......if misrepresenting one is not ok, the others cannot be either as the end product is the same
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CDMA providers don't use IMEI; Verizon and Sprint only use it for LTE (a GSM technology), and considering that the OP would not be able to use the LTE anyway because Sprint and Verizon use different LTE bands, this seems a non-issue (as he would not need to change his IMEI).
He would, however, need to change his ESN, and as I stated earlier, the legality of it is questionable but unlikely if he is switching his phone to Verizon.
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right, how is this any different than changing the SIM card and activating it on a network that is explicitly excluded from that use per the ToS? IMEI, ESN, or SIM......it's all semantics......if misrepresenting one is not ok, the others cannot be either as the end product is the same
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I agree, but I'm saying that if the OP would like to change his phone to Verizon then that's his choice; he takes on the risk of being caught, the knowledge that what he's doing is potentially illegal, and knowing that he is acting immorally. I don't agree with what the OP is doing and I won't provide help.
And the point about the ToS that I was saying was that it's one thing to breach a ToS, but it's a very different thing to breach a contact. Breaching a non-contact ToS is not necessarily immoral because the only agreement you make with the carrier is that you understand that they can deny you service if you breach their ToS.
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elfhater said:
I agree, but I'm saying that if the OP would like to change his phone to Verizon then that's his choice; he takes on the risk of being caught, the knowledge that what he's doing is potentially illegal, and knowing that he is acting immorally. I don't agree with what the OP is doing and I won't provide help.
And the point about the ToS that I was saying was that it's one thing to breach a ToS, but it's a very different thing to breach a contact. Breaching a non-contact ToS is not necessarily immoral because the only agreement you make with the carrier is that you understand that they can deny you service if you breach their ToS.
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elfhater said:
I agree, but I'm saying that if the OP would like to change his phone to Verizon then that's his choice; he takes on the risk of being caught, the knowledge that what he's doing is potentially illegal, and knowing that he is acting immorally. I don't agree with what the OP is doing and I won't provide help.
And the point about the ToS that I was saying was that it's one thing to breach a ToS, but it's a very different thing to breach a contact. Breaching a non-contact ToS is not necessarily immoral because the only agreement you make with the carrier is that you understand that they can deny you service if you breach their ToS.
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see i disagree on that last part....it's their network, not your's or anyone else's, it belongs to ATT for instance, and access to that network is not an entitlement in which one can choose to follow the rules or not at a whim......by using the network you accept the ToS by default...so accessing that network by misrepresenting and explicitly breaking the ToS is pretty cut and dry.......it's just wrong. Choosing to do the wrong thing is immoral if you will. Not that it's fair to equate cell service with morality and life.....but at the root of it, people who choose to be opportunistic will many times choose to do the same in other aspects of life......
this thread isn't about morality so i digress........but there is really no way to justify the breaking of the ToS when one is on their network to begin with in my opinion
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see i disagree on that last part....it's their network, not your's or anyone else's, it belongs to ATT for instance, and access to that network is not an entitlement in which one can choose to follow the rules or not at a whim......by using the network you accept the ToS by default...so accessing that network by misrepresenting and explicitly breaking the ToS is pretty cut and dry.......it's just wrong. Choosing to do the wrong thing is immoral if you will. Not that it's fair to equate cell service with morality and life.....but at the root of it, people who choose to be opportunistic will many times choose to do the same in other aspects of life......
this thread isn't about morality so i digress........but there is really no way to justify the breaking of the ToS when one is on their network to begin with in my opinion
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I know, but by agreeing to only a ToS (VM, Boost, etc) you are allowed to use their network with the knowledge that you can be denied service if you choose to breach those terms and the carrier decides to terminate your service.
A contact on the other hand (Verizon, etc) is a binding agreement in which you basically promise that you will abide by the terms set forth in the contact and therefore MUST abide.
I can see we're getting off topic but I can agree to disagree lol.
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elfhater said:
I know, but by agreeing to only a ToS (VM, Boost, etc) you are allowed to use their network with the knowledge that you can be denied service if you choose to breach those terms and the carrier decides to terminate your service.
A contact on the other hand (Verizon, etc) is a binding agreement in which you basically promise that you will abide by the terms set forth in the contact and therefore MUST abide.
I can see we're getting off topic but I can agree to disagree lol.
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no this is good stuff...
you do agree that they can boot you off, but before that you agree to use the service per the ToS in the first place, by simply connecting you agree to use it as they say......it doesn't say "go ahead and connect any way you like but we can disconnect you". It says in order to connect you have to agree to connect per the ToS.
So the first transgression is the act of connecting in a mischievous or by way of misrepresentation. At least from what I can see. Contract or not. The contract really has no bearing other than cost and features for the cost. You pay for a set of features for a price, they agree to give you those features for that length of time per the contract. This can exist separately from the actual act of connecting to the service.
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To be honest, I don't quite understand why a person cannot use his/her phone, which they bought for $600 outright, on a network of their choice.
You can do that with GSM phones. Why not with CDMA?
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because american companies are generally greedy just look at apple.
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no this is good stuff...
you do agree that they can boot you off, but before that you agree to use the service per the ToS in the first place, by simply connecting you agree to use it as they say......it doesn't say "go ahead and connect any way you like but we can disconnect you". It says in order to connect you have to agree to connect per the ToS.
So the first transgression is the act of connecting in a mischievous or by way of misrepresentation. At least from what I can see. Contract or not. The contract really has no bearing other than cost and features for the cost. You pay for a set of features for a price, they agree to give you those features for that length of time per the contract. This can exist separately from the actual act of connecting to the service.
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I see what you're saying, TBH I didn't consider that you were agreeing to abide by the terms in order to connect, as opposed to agreeing to the terms with the knowledge that you can be denied service once you breach those terms. Also I haven't read (for example's sake) VM's ToS in full, just the parts pertaining to using a phone from another carrier.
And with the contact, you are legally bound to abide by the terms set forth (I think that usually includes an agreement that you will abide by the ToS), whereas there is no legal agreement if you are only agreeing to a ToS. Whether it's morally wrong to break a ToS alone I can't really say, but if the carrier is not adversely affected in any way, shape, or form and the consumer can use a phone that he or she wants that that carrier may not offer, I don't really see a problem (as long as the consumer didn't sign a contract which involved promising to abide by the ToS).
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[Q] Lost phone, recovered a few months later. What are my options?

Hi guys,
So about 3 1/2 months ago my SGS3 was lost and now I've got it back. Guess someone felt guilty. Any way, some insurance calls and $130 later, I got a replacement phone and have been using that 'til recently. So my question is, is it possible to give my "lost" phone to a family member to use? I remember them blocking the IMEI number, but I've heard countless stories about people still being able to use "lost and unlocked" phones. What'll happen if I do end up giving it to my brother?
Any suggestions would be great. It would be a pain in my wallet to return a phone I once bought before, and I can't return this replacement phone either.
To keep things legit, that's gonna be a question for your insurance company. Technically the have replaced your "lost" phone.... But now you have it. Don't get yourself in trouble over something like that.
Probably need to make sure the esn is clear. If the phone was reported stolen, the esn will identify it as such.
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Probably need to make sure the esn is clear. If the phone was reported stolen, the esn will identify it as such.
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How do you check/reset it? Or is it not possible.
You should inform your insurance co. Good karma and that...:angel:
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You should inform your insurance co. Good karma and that...:angel:
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When has insurance companies ever cared about "good karma" lol
Pretty sure contacting the carrier is the only way to clear an esn.
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Either contact the insurrance firm, either use it as an giant ipod. Think about it as being CDMA and u have only GSM available
I think that once it's locked you can't unlock the imei.
But try to contact you insurance anyway
You have to have it removed from the blocked list which only the insurance company can do, but if you read the fine print it covers what you need to do which is send back it to them.
As for changing the IMEI. This is illegal and talking about it is against XDA rules
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Cell phone unlocking illegal?

Yup, it's true.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
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Before anyone panics, this is only if the phone is still under contract. It's not illegal if the person is out of contract and calls the phone company to ask for the unlock code. At least, that's the way I've understood this. Most people can still unlock their phones, it just makes things more complicated. The funny and sad part is that they're doing this to prevent "fraud" (people making contracts and bailing on them but keeping the phones and reselling them) but all this really does is throw us at the mercy of the carriers. T-mobile is a lot more chill about this but AT&T users will find it more complicated to unlock.
Anyways, it's best to be careful how one treads with this. On one hand, they can't tell how your phone was unlocked, most carriers can't even identify a competitor's phone on their network BUT it may be more risky now to buy unlock codes and I assume the same thing that happened to megaupload will happen to those that provide unlocking services.
It hardly changes anything when you really look at it. Carriers are still selling unlocked phones. Makers are still selling unlocked phones. Once subsidiaries go away, the unlocked phones will cost the same as the carrier ones.
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How would anyone find out and who reports that type of stuff?
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So simplemobile is out of luck....
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Only thing this makes me worry about is how hard it will make it to get unlock codes for us who aren't within the US. And what happens when someone needs to travel out of the country and needs to use a different carrier service while there?
It's irrelevant for this device. You have your unlock code, it's already on the phone you just have to look it up.
its irrelevant for any device purchased before jan, xx 2013 (forget exact date) and if tmobile or whoever wants to freely give you the code they can. or just always buy factory unlocked phones! personally hate paying extra money through a carrier to get a cheap phone when i save far more in the long run buying elsewhere and having a cheaper plan

Screw T-Mobile, What can I do?? Please help.

So I have been having a bad experience with T-Mobile. I just moved into a new house with my girl and son and I have the worst service. "Light Green" they called it...I only get 4G 20% of the time, with dropped called, missing texts or texts that take a couple hours to day to get to me, so I tried to get the cancellation fee waived, i went into T-Mo and they said they would send a request. I recieved a letter in the mail about 15 days after, saying that I was Declined and that I can just go outside in my car, or on the sidewalk to make a phone call or to get 4G....WTF MATE!?
Heres where it gets retarded...So I didnt really have a credit score when I initially signed up for T-Mobile. So I had to pay a deposit fee or whatever of $200 bucks...They said i would get that back after 1 year of paying. The day it became 1 year i called T-Mo. They said they would send it to my bank account and sent the request in. About 9 days later I get a phone call from an automated message saying my account wasnt eligible...So I went into the T-Mobile store and talked to them, and they couldnt give me a straight answer, so they called customer service and asked them to send me a visa card with the $200. 2 days after i check my account online and they credidted my T-Mo account and paid that months bill???!!!
I was pissed So I went into the store and I told them i did not ask for that and i asked why they would do this, they couldn't tell me why...So they sent a request to refund my tmo account then to send me the $200 to a visa AGAIN. About 2 weeks later I get $102.93 in the mail...They denied my request to refund me and still paid my bill and sent me the remainder.....And at the time i really needed the money.
I said screw them and I havent paid my bill it was due almost 2 weeks ago, and there about to shut me off. I planned on switching to Simple Mobile but when I called primetime to see prices and stuff they told me if i have a balance with tmobile that they would decline me...Metro also uses tmobiles network and walmart uses tmobiles network....
So my question is what can I do to get service on this phone? What plans do I have available, because I don't really plan on paying t-mobilem they can go screw. Im done with there BS.
Only option is Att or air voice but not sure on the about frequencys I did it with the s3 works fine
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Only option is Att or air voice but not sure on the about frequencys I did it with the s3 works fine
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Will T-Mobile lock this phone since I haven't paid? I'm trying to get a service plan I can use with this phone. I don't need data, I'm on WiFi most of the time where ever I go. So if I switch to air voice or at&t I would just pop in the sim card and be good to go?
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Will T-Mobile lock this phone since I haven't paid? I'm trying to get a service plan I can use with this phone. I don't need data, I'm on WiFi most of the time where ever I go. So if I switch to air voice or at&t I would just pop in the sim card and be good to go?
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They might look it if you have any remaining balance on the phone as in the monthly $15 payment for the device or did you pay it off full when you got it?
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They can but you can unlock easy and even if they block imei can still use it on another carrier do screw Tmobile
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They might look it if you have any remaining balance on the phone as in the monthly $15 payment for the device or did you pay it off full when you got it?
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Yeah still have a balance on the phone...there's only $40 left tho...how do I unlock the phone without calling t-mo?
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Yeah still have a balance on the phone...there's only $40 left tho...how do I unlock the phone without calling t-mo?
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I don't know a free way. But I know some shops unlock them for like $15. Online you can get the same price. But make sure you get a real one and not those stupid scams.
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I don't know a free way. But I know some shops unlock them for like $15. Online you can get the same price. But make sure you get a real one and not those stupid scams.
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$15? That's it? Prime time said they'd charge $150 to unlock...
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$15? That's it? Prime time said they'd charge $150 to unlock...
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T-Mobile gives it to you for free but if I were you I'd ask that friend to who has t-mobile to call them just give him you imei and they could get it for you because t-mobile might ask you to pay off your balance
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T-Mobile gives it to you for free but if I were you I'd ask that friend to who has t-mobile to call them just give him you imei and they could get it for you because t-mobile might ask you to pay off your balance
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Yeah that sounds like it would work, they don't ask what type of phone? Or Account name? I just checked out this YouTube video from cellunlocker.net, looks legit and only want like $7 to unlock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi91arwkzxY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I also checked out airvoice, do I even need to unlock it for them? They state there service works on any android phone and don't mention unlocking. I've never had to unlock any of my phones so I'm kinda new to this.
DiViNEX said:
Yeah that sounds like it would work, they don't ask what type of phone? Or Account name? I just checked out this YouTube video from cellunlocker.net, looks legit and only want like $7 to unlock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi91arwkzxY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I also checked out airvoice, do I even need to unlock it for them? They state there service works on any android phone and don't mention unlocking. I've never had to unlock any of my phones so I'm kinda new to this.
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Its super easy!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029650
Maybe something like this could work for the blaze, it works on a lot of Samsung phones. Be worth a try. Just find right radio / ROM combo .
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henslo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029650
Maybe something like this could work for the blaze, it works on a lot of Samsung phones. Be worth a try. Just find right radio / ROM combo .
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Awesome! Lots of people are saying it worked for them.
Just have to be on stock ROM , I'm going to start flashing and trying until I find one that works. Will post results, or if you get it working first let us know. :good:
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henslo said:
Just have to be on stock ROM , I'm going to start flashing and trying until I find one that works. Will post results, or if you get it working first let us know. :good:
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Will do, still have to order a sim card. I will buy it either tomorrow or Monday and probably get it within a week or 2, otherwise I would have already tried it. The process seems pretty straight forward though and if it works on the S2, I don't see why it wouldn't work for us blazers but you never know.
You have to unlock for air voice it runs on att's network
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DiViNEX said:
Yeah that sounds like it would work, they don't ask what type of phone? Or Account name? I just checked out this YouTube video from cellunlocker.net, looks legit and only want like $7 to unlock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi91arwkzxY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I also checked out airvoice, do I even need to unlock it for them? They state there service works on any android phone and don't mention unlocking. I've never had to unlock any of my phones so I'm kinda new to this.
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i hope i got here in time.
T-Mob won't unlock your phone for three reason:
1. you don't have any outstanding balance
2. the devices has to be used on your line for 1 or 2 weeks
3. your line has to be in good standing and active for 40 days.
But if anybody who has t-mob tried to call and get the imei unlock code for your phone, i wouldn't suggest it as they may either have to send in the bills that shows you paid full price for the phone or the devices is used on their line for 7 days.
Also, from what you're stating, you probably didn't communicate clearly with T-Mob store rep, but sometime, you just have to find the right person, tell them stright off what happen and keep it simple and you'll be clear.
and as for the $200, i'm not surprised they had you put it in, and you DO have credit scores. they can come from any sources. the Public Library keeps one, getting a loan from any sources used under your SSN will affect your credit scores. any past debts unpaid will affect it as well. renting a house also affect it.
and i'm not sure, but if they're suppose to put it back into your account, and it haven't, it normally mean that someone screw up. and if i were you, i'm certain it isn't T-Mob that screw you over but the local place. if they have to call customer services, that mean they're a 3rd party store representing T-Mob. I would suggest you head back to the original place you got your phone and plan and speak to the person in charge. they might be the one refusing to give you the money, not t-mob.
Ziken said:
i hope i got here in time.
T-Mob won't unlock your phone for three reason:
1. you don't have any outstanding balance
2. the devices has to be used on your line for 1 or 2 weeks
3. your line has to be in good standing and active for 40 days.
But if anybody who has t-mob tried to call and get the imei unlock code for your phone, i wouldn't suggest it as they may either have to send in the bills that shows you paid full price for the phone or the devices is used on their line for 7 days.
Also, from what you're stating, you probably didn't communicate clearly with T-Mob store rep, but sometime, you just have to find the right person, tell them stright off what happen and keep it simple and you'll be clear.
and as for the $200, i'm not surprised they had you put it in, and you DO have credit scores. they can come from any sources. the Public Library keeps one, getting a loan from any sources used under your SSN will affect your credit scores. any past debts unpaid will affect it as well. renting a house also affect it.
and i'm not sure, but if they're suppose to put it back into your account, and it haven't, it normally mean that someone screw up. and if i were you, i'm certain it isn't T-Mob that screw you over but the local place. if they have to call customer services, that mean they're a 3rd party store representing T-Mob. I would suggest you head back to the original place you got your phone and plan and speak to the person in charge. they might be the one refusing to give you the money, not t-mob.
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What I meant when I said I didn't really have a credit score was because I never really had any bills under my name at the time of signing up with t-mo.
Trust me I communicated with them just fine...the person who I talked to in the store was the person who set me up with them, she's a really nice lady, so I know it wasn't her doing. I had originally called customer service to get my deposit back. They sent in the requst to fund my bank account originally. The lady at the t-mo store did everything correctly and showed me exactly what she did on the computer and I even talked to one of the account specialists.
It was T-Mobile being pricks. They didn't want to give me the money or at least not the whole thing, which was clear from what they were doing. They stated my bank account not being eligible in an automated message and because it wasn't "eligible" for absolutely no reason they put the money in my t-mo account instead and paid that months bill before I could even do anything and there was still 13 days till i had to pay the bill. Then denied my request to get my money back that they used to pay the bill, and denying the cancellation fee request for crappy unreliable service and telling me in a letter that I can go out in my car or the sidewalk to call and use 4g which still didn't work all that great outside.
This is definitely T-Mobiles fault not customer service. There money hungry a-holes and don't care for the customer as a whole.
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What I meant when I said I didn't really have a credit score was because I never really had any bills under my name at the time of signing up with t-mo.
Trust me I communicated with them just fine...the person who I talked to in the store was the person who set me up with them, she's a really nice lady, so I know it wasn't her doing. I had originally called customer service to get my deposit back. They sent in the requst to fund my bank account originally. The lady at the t-mo store did everything correctly and showed me exactly what she did on the computer and I even talked to one of the account specialists.
It was T-Mobile being pricks. They didn't want to give me the money or at least not the whole thing, which was clear from what they were doing. They stated my bank account not being eligible in an automated message and because it wasn't "eligible" for absolutely no reason they put the money in my t-mo account instead and paid that months bill before I could even do anything and there was still 13 days till i had to pay the bill. Then denied my request to get my money back that they used to pay the bill, and denying the cancellation fee request for crappy unreliable service and telling me in a letter that I can go out in my car or the sidewalk to call and use 4g which still didn't work all that great outside.
This is definitely T-Mobiles fault not customer service. There money hungry a-holes and don't care for the customer as a whole.
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Huh. you and i have two different experiences when it came to dealing with T-Mob. They tried to overcharge me once, but they credit my account.
I guess, our two experiences are different.
However, I would suggest you go speak to that lady and ask her what happen if you unlock your phone to use on other network if you still have outstanding account with T-Mob.

Sprint blacklisted phone

I am looking at picking up a 2nd nexus for the wife on Craigslist. I can get a good deal on one but the guy is still paying on the payment plan. If he bails on his plan afterward would the phone still work on at&t and T-Mobile OK? I assume sprint would blacklist it and I don't really care about that.
No, the carriers share the black list.
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yup, in the us, and canada it seems, the providers share the same blacklist.
Buy a legitimate phone, or you'll likely end up with a pretty ornament. ?
KJ said:
Buy a legitimate phone, or you'll likely end up with a pretty ornament. ?
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Or you could move.. But by then you could probably buy multiple devices instead lol

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