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So I wired my younger brother the money to pick up my phone in the US and send it back with my grandparents who are there visiting... He went to AT&T today and they denied him the ability to purchase me the phone off contract. He said he tried for a little, but they kept saying that they would not sell it to him off contract. I told him to try and go back if he can, but he might not be able to due to work and my grandparents leaving soon.
Can AT&T actually deny selling the phone off contract? I told him that if he is able to go back, to tell them that it is being sold from AT&T stores for $549.00 and to ask how it is possible for them to deny the sale.
I understand that they dont make money selling phones, but rather the service, but to just deny him is crazy...
Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions?
Thanks everyone! Have been at this android thing for almost a year and I am still without one...
I have never heard of them denying someone to purchase a phone off contract. Tell him to go to Target or Wal Mart they sell att phones off contract.
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I'm not sure if there is one near him unfortunately... I guess I should mention he lives in Boston at the moment, not cool on the part of the AT&T he went to.
Do you happen to know how much Walmart and Target are selling them for?
they can deny anything to anyone. but you can buy it on there website. they dont want to run out and are hoping that this will attract many new contracts so they prefer to sell to new subscribers. my att reps dont care either way and i had the option to buy outright, i shoulda taken that option but it is too late now. im not sure if i can cancel an early upgrade in the first month like a new contract.
Heuser1 said:
I'm not sure if there is one near him unfortunately... I guess I should mention he lives in Boston at the moment, not cool on the part of the AT&T he went to.
Do you happen to know how much Walmart and Target are selling them for?
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about $50-$100 more as far as i can tell but some regions are jacking up the price even in the at store. i think it is $579 on att's website. my store is $549 but some stores may be $600 or more
Is he a ATT customer. It is true they wont sell to non customers and they dont have to.
Crazy how some places jack up the price like that. The reason I cannot order it online is because I would have to pay a 16% tax for it to get through customs here in the Dominican Republic. So i have been trying to coordinate with friends and family that have been in the US and this was my big chance so say.
Pretty annoyed about this, seems like everytime I try to get a phone i am unsuccesful for one reason or another. Already had the issue with the G2X not being quad-band.
I hope he was able to go back this evening and get it... Not sure what to do next if that doesn't work out.
Ya. Inspire was $399 off contract at att. Went to buy at best buy because I had a 10% coupon and they wanted $599 for the thing! No.thanks! I'd call corporate and complain about the store. Either way its bad customer service for them to turn you down like that. "Can I give you $550 for this item" rep "no" ... "only $199" doesn't make sense. I'd raise hell. I realize they make money off the data plans and.contracts and how att works but either way you look at it that's poor customer relations and incorrect information directly from a.corporate store.
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Best buy will always price match. I have done it with many off contract phones there.
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Ya. Inspire was $399 off contract at att. Went to buy at best buy because I had a 10% coupon and they wanted $599 for the thing! No.thanks! I'd call corporate and complain about the store. Either way its bad customer service for them to turn you down like that. "Can I give you $550 for this item" rep "no" ... "only $199" doesn't make sense. I'd raise hell. I realize they make money off the data plans and.contracts and how att works but either way you look at it that's poor customer relations and incorrect information directly from a.corporate store.
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I don't think the infuse is only 399 off contract anywhere. I just looked online on att.com and its 550. If you can show me where to get it for 400 bucks I'm buying right now.
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Off topic - I hate you because you have a Transformer and I don't.
I'm not sure I'd plunk down that much for the infuse anyway. It has the same gps issues as the captivate and nexus s phone. To me I'd buy an iPhone and have your brother send it along with your grandparents or even an atrix. I like my phones to work right.
galaxyjeff said:
I'm not sure I'd plunk down that much for the infuse anyway. It has the same gps issues as the captivate and nexus s phone. To me I'd buy an iPhone and have your brother send it along with your grandparents or even an atrix. I like my phones to work right.
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the gps if far better than the galaxy s phones. trust me on that. it can use altered settings as it has quirks but the gps is not the same hardware or drivers and is by far improved
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I don't think the infuse is only 399 off contract anywhere. I just looked online on att.com and its 550. If you can show me where to get it for 400 bucks I'm buying right now.
The inspire not infuse
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Was at at&t store and thought I remember seeing off contract price of $549.00 I am in KC, Mo.
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As long as you have a active account with AT&T then they will sell you a phone out of contract or no commitment pricing. If you don't have a account they don't have to sell it to you
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Dani897 said:
they can deny anything to anyone. but you can buy it on there website. they dont want to run out and are hoping that this will attract many new contracts so they prefer to sell to new subscribers. my att reps dont care either way and i had the option to buy outright, i shoulda taken that option but it is too late now. im not sure if i can cancel an early upgrade in the first month like a new contract.
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+++ Inventory is thin right now. They would rather sell that phone with a contract, which they probably did short after. Or if not, at least sell to a current customer.
Heuser1 said:
I'm not sure if there is one near him unfortunately... I guess I should mention he lives in Boston at the moment, not cool on the part of the AT&T he went to.
Do you happen to know how much Walmart and Target are selling them for?
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Do you happen to know what store in Boston he went to? I live in Boston and was able to buy one from the Downtown Crossing store with no issues. Just be nice to the AT&T reps and don't look/act like a grey market reseller
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So I wired my younger brother the money to pick up my phone in the US and send it back with my grandparents who are there visiting... He went to AT&T today and they denied him the ability to purchase me the phone off contract. He said he tried for a little, but they kept saying that they would not sell it to him off contract. I told him to try and go back if he can, but he might not be able to due to work and my grandparents leaving soon.
Can AT&T actually deny selling the phone off contract? I told him that if he is able to go back, to tell them that it is being sold from AT&T stores for $549.00 and to ask how it is possible for them to deny the sale.
I understand that they dont make money selling phones, but rather the service, but to just deny him is crazy...
Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions?
Thanks everyone! Have been at this android thing for almost a year and I am still without one...
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Yes, AT&T rep told me that first couple of weeks no AT&T store will sell a new phone without contract.
You have to go to bestbuy for that. I bought mine there for $599 without contract.
Another option is online purchase from AT&T's website for $549 without contract, but there may be some issues with that.
Heuser1 said:
So I wired my younger brother the money to pick up my phone in the US and send it back with my grandparents who are there visiting... He went to AT&T today and they denied him the ability to purchase me the phone off contract. He said he tried for a little, but they kept saying that they would not sell it to him off contract. I told him to try and go back if he can, but he might not be able to due to work and my grandparents leaving soon.
Can AT&T actually deny selling the phone off contract? I told him that if he is able to go back, to tell them that it is being sold from AT&T stores for $549.00 and to ask how it is possible for them to deny the sale.
I understand that they dont make money selling phones, but rather the service, but to just deny him is crazy...
Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions?
Thanks everyone! Have been at this android thing for almost a year and I am still without one...
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Just happened to me today as i got my Infuse...
ATT store said that they do not sell new phones off contract for the first month after release....
I had to go to Radio Shack to buy the phone...
Will you switch services and what phone will you buy?
Depends on the prepaid prices and if current prices will be honored. If not, back to Virgin Mobile I will go. They're getting some good android phones, hopefully dev support picks up for them.
This depends on whether or not I can back out of my contract without paying. If I can, then I'm off to Verizon. I won't stick with AT&T if I don't have to, and I won't go back to Sprint.
Never had an at&t contract or knew anyone that did. I take it they such, huh?
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Can't think of a single pleasant experience I ever had with them in a single year of use. Yet in the three years I've been with T-Mobile, I have only had one unpleasant experience.
What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?
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What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?
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That's what the FCC is discussing.
Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?
Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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Yup, that's the idea of it. There has to be competition, or else they can really set the price to whatever they want, blahblahblah.
A while back, ATT nearly was a monopoly, and they were forced to split into many parts and sell those off to increase competition.. Now they are buying everyone back again lol. I used to have Cingular for my mobile service.. then they were bought by ATT about 8-10 years ago. Didn't have a problem with the merge, and my reception actually improved.
I remember having a bad experience with ATT when I moved and transferred my DSL service to my new apt. The service really sucked (it was too far from the connection office), and I wanted to cancel, but was told I still had 3 months left on the old contract. So I let the 3 months go by so I didn't have to pay an ETF.. after that, I called to cancel, and now, they said when I moved, I entered into a new yearly contract at the new address, and would be charged a $250 ETF. I did no such thing, and didn't sign any new contract. It was BS, and took over a month to get rid of them.
Was so pissed off I switched to Sprint later that year, and haven't had any ATT services for about 5 years. I'm happy with T-mo, and their pre-paid $50/month plan is pretty nice. I hope ATT doesn't change that, otherwise I'll be switching carriers again.
Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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daxecutioner24 said:
Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
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pudgybunnyBry said:
Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?
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They are but they are CDMA
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muzicman0 said:
BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
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+1 My wife and I have had T-Mobile for about 10 yrs now and have always been happy. I have 4 lines (2 with 3000 minutes + unlimited text/data and 2 with 600 minutes and 300 texts). I have always been given great service the few times I had to call. They have always given us the new user discount 18-19 months into the contract for cheaper upgrades too. My work cell used to be AT&T, but then changed over to Verizon and I found both of them to be lacking in every way. I always check the Costco phone kiosk for deals. picked up a BB pearl the week it hit for $29, a Samsung Highlight the week it hit for free, and my SGS4G for $50 bucks back in February when it came out for allowing them to change my number on the renewed plan... lol. I missed the MT4g for a penny (yeah, $0.01) by a week for the wife, but still only paid $150 for it.
I'm not sure what I'll do. I guess that depends on what AT&T does with this side of their house. Might swing a GS2 in with a change over if/when it happens. All I know is T-Mobile has always been great to us and we have stayed b/c of that and they have the best plans/pricing out there.
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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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crosses fingers that it violates monopoly laws
If you guys don't know T-Mobile has started blacklisting IMEIs of devices with unpaid accounts, stolen devices etc
I've seen a few threads with people saying their phone randomly stopped working one day, the SIM wouldn't pick up signal. There is a few things that could have happened, since SIM cards do go bad. But if it's a phone you bought on Craigslist/eBay/BST forum etc beware you can get screwed down the road. If someone gets a phone on one of the new value plans and decides to cancel service after selling the device and it goes unpaid you will have a brick. If they don't cancel service and sell the phone, then report it stolen, you will have a brick. There is MANY scenarios, people things oh hey this phone is $200, I can sell it for $450 and cancel the line and I've made $250...well the end user will now have a no longer working phone. that's just the start of it.
Just beware when buying phones online, this has always been the case for Sprint/Verizon...but now T-Mobile has started doing the same. not sure about AT&T since I don't have personal experience with them about blacklisting IMEI.
I don't see how this would affect say an att user. They can just sim unlocked the phone and use it
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I might be wrong here, but isn't the signal sent to the SIM? If the IMEI is never actually attached to your line (in the system) theoretically it still wouldn't matter. i.e. I found a Blackberry and decided I would try the $50 TMO prepaid deal. I stopped by the store and bought a SIM but didn't have the phone with me. He said no problem, activated the SIM and sent me on my way and the BB worked.
is this even legal? aren't the phones on contract technically provided as a 'free gift' and therefore property of the buyer from day one?
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is this even legal? aren't the phones on contract technically provided as a 'free gift' and therefore property of the buyer from day one?
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I believe it is legal. You first have to realize there is no such thing as a 'free' or 'subsidized' phone. You either pay full price upfront or in payments via the monthly service charge. One way or another, providers are gonna get the phone paid for. T-Mobile is the only major US provider that offers cheaper rates if you own your phone.
But...if you get a phone 'free' or 'subsidized' you have to think of it as similar to financing a car. You get to use the car but the bank has a financial interest in it - actually contractually owns it - until you pay it off. That's why they can legally repossess it if you fail to pay. Similarly, until you fulfill your service contract or pay the exit fee the provider has a financial interest in the phone, and by contract, certain legal rights.
Not a perfect analogy but I hope it makes things clearer.
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chibixzero said:
I don't see how this would affect say an att user. They can just sim unlocked the phone and use it
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I don't think the SIM will work if the imei is blocked. sIm lock Is totally dIfferent to ImeI block. Imei is how the phone gets it signal. It identifies the handset(not the SIM).
If an imei is blocked in UK then it will not work on any network in UK, but it will work on networks in other countries as there is not an international imei data base there are only national one at the minute. It is not 100% certain to work in another country but it would more than likely work. But for instance O2 in UK is owned by Spanish company Telefonica so an o2 phone blocked by imei may not work in Spain and vice versa.
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It is possible to change the imei number of a phone, but I know in the UK it IS ILLEGAL to do this.
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Very informative
It's unfortunate that sometimes people are dishonest or unethical even more so when selling anonymously through the internet.
As always in purchasing toys, do your homework and if a deal seems to good to be true..... it probably is.
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It's unfortunate that sometimes people are dishonest or unethical even more so when selling anonymously through the internet.
As always in purchasing toys, do your homework and if a deal seems to good to be true..... it probably is.
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Very very true:thumbup:
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gavmac said:
It is possible to change the imei number of a phone, but I know in the UK it IS ILLEGAL to do this.
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It is in the states as well
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Wow,so att the one company that doesnt practice this
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I see that bestbuy only carries the nexus 5 for sprint will it work on att??
SuperMiguel said:
I see that bestbuy only carries the nexus 5 for sprint will it work on att??
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Exact same phone, the one at Best Buy just comes with an $100 SIM card.
This is one of the most appealing features of this phone that has so far gone pretty much unrecognized. You can take this single model and jump to most major and prepaid carriers.
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Directed to the two posters above who say it will work on AT&T - how do you know? Do you have confirmation from someone who bought the phone at Best Buy? The listings on Bestbuy.com both say (Sprint) after the name of the phone.
I have the nexus from Sprint and can personally verify it works with a prepaid att straight talk Sim card. FYI the sprint sold phone does not include the Sim tray key.
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Can i just walk into bestbuy and buy one? or i actually need a sprint account?
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Directed to the two posters above who say it will work on AT&T - how do you know? Do you have confirmation from someone who bought the phone at Best Buy?
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SuperMiguel said:
Can i just walk into bestbuy and buy one? or i actually need a sprint account?
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As long as you are paying full price, you should be able to get it without a Sprint account. It will of course depend on whether the sales person you deal with decides to be a jerk or not.
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Exact same phone, the one at Best Buy just comes with an $100 SIM card.
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If we don't want the SIM card can we get $100 off?
haha jk, I bought mine at best buy and was able to get them to match the play store.
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I have the nexus from Sprint and can personally verify it works with a prepaid att straight talk Sim card. FYI the sprint sold phone does not include the Sim tray key.
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So you just stick an AT&T SIM card in there and it'll automatically switch to it? Was your phone already activated on the Sprint network? I'm curious since Sprint would tie in with the ESN activation for CDMA. If it's just as simple as putting in an AT&T or Tmobile SIM, then I'm sure getting it!
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So you just stick an AT&T SIM card in there and it'll automatically switch to it? Was your phone already activated on the Sprint network? I'm curious since Sprint would tie in with the ESN activation for CDMA. If it's just as simple as putting in an AT&T or Tmobile SIM, then I'm sure getting it!
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Yeah it really was that simple. Just put the Sim card in reboot the phone and your good. I had to change a couple settings in the connections menu to go back to sprint but it was relatively painless
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So you just stick an AT&T SIM card in there and it'll automatically switch to it? Was your phone already activated on the Sprint network? I'm curious since Sprint would tie in with the ESN activation for CDMA. If it's just as simple as putting in an AT&T or Tmobile SIM, then I'm sure getting it!
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I bought a Nexus 5 from Best Buy and I'm an AT&T customer. Yes, the phone will automatically connect to AT&T's network. It took a few minutes to convince the BB employee that the phone would work on AT&T. They also insisted it was store policy that they activate every phone they sell, so I had to pay the $30 activation fee.
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Yeah it really was that simple. Just put the Sim card in reboot the phone and your good. I had to change a couple settings in the connections menu to go back to sprint but it was relatively painless
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Thanks! If you can detail out the settings you had to change to go back, that would be much appreciated!
I can't remember specifics but I had to change the settings here back to LTE a couple of times. For some reason it wouldn't stick after the first reboot. I can't retest it because my straight talk Sim is not active right now. I can assure you it works relatively easily though.
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ronwi2 said:
Directed to the two posters above who say it will work on AT&T - how do you know? Do you have confirmation from someone who bought the phone at Best Buy? The listings on Bestbuy.com both say (Sprint) after the name of the phone.
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because all N5's sold in North America are the same model, with the same frequencies (D820), the only thing that may have to be changed is the APN.
this is not like other Sprint specific devices like the G2 (LS980) vs the AT&T G2 (D800)
AT&T - D800
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Sprint - LS980
GSM 850/1900
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LTE 1900(25)/800(26)/2500(41)
brooksyx said:
If we don't want the SIM card can we get $100 off?
haha jk, I bought mine at best buy and was able to get them to match the play store.
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That would have been awesome, I don't understand why everybody charges $100 more unless Google really is taking a hit on each one they sell.
Glad you got them to price match, they wouldn't budge for me. Brought them a few receipts where other people did it, brought them the price printed. They just kept telling me it's not the same phone, got to the point where I was just tired of wasting my time with them and didn't want to wait on the Play Store so I just got it at full price.
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That would have been awesome, I don't understand why everybody charges $100 more unless Google really is taking a hit on each one they sell.
Glad you got them to price match, they wouldn't budge for me. Brought them a few receipts where other people did it, brought them the price printed. They just kept telling me it's not the same phone, got to the point where I was just tired of wasting my time with them and didn't want to wait on the Play Store so I just got it at full price.
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I don't think Google is necessarily taking a hit but I do think they are selling them just slightly above cost. You have to remember that Google isnt a electronic sales company like Apple, they make all of their profits from there data mining and advertising business. Android is just another medium to collect data and deliver ads. So they could give these away for free and still benefit. However companies like best buy and sprint make their money off of retail sales and cell phone plans. So they are trying to maximize profits that way.
Anyways bummer that they didn't match for you. I guess I just got luck. I walked in not feeling to confident with my play store ad. They were cool but hesitant. After the guy asked his manager he said that they normally wouldn't match the play store but were will to make an exception.
I am in the same boat but for T Mobile. Anyone know if this phone will work for T Mobile as well? I would believe so but I want to make especially if BB is going to charge me an activation fee.
Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
maybe people who are stuck in twrp bootloop?
Tmobile service sucks maybe
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Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
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A good number of All but one of 'em are unopened/New,they probably bought 'em to take advantage of the $200 Rebate & headphone offers.
As long as they have a net gain from purchase price/rebate/sale price,I suppose it's a worthwhile endeavor.........
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A good number of All but one of 'em are unopened/New,they probably bought 'em to take advantage of the $200 Rebate & headphone offers.
As long as they have a net gain from purchase price/rebate/sale price,I suppose it's a worthwhile endeavor.........
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T-Mobile is basically giving these things away. If they used the trade in thing, it makes the phone either free or less than $200. They probably have another phone they are using and don't plan on leaving T-Mobile, so they just got one and are selling it. T-Mobile, effectively, puts you in a contract doing this. They take the price of the phone and give you bill credits for the whole term of the EIP. If you terminate service, you owe the phone. Combine that with the free line promotion they had a few days prior, I am guessing this is what is happening. The contract does not say anything about using the phone. As long as they keep their bill current and keep their service, it will be able to be used (I think...). I would be careful buying one of these V20s in case you are not allowed to use the phone on a line that isn't associated with the account, but that is me being a worry wort.
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T-Mobile is basically giving these things away. If they used the trade in thing, it makes the phone either free or less than $200. They probably have another phone they are using and don't plan on leaving T-Mobile, so they just got one and are selling it. T-Mobile, effectively, puts you in a contract doing this. They take the price of the phone and give you bill credits for the whole term of the EIP. If you terminate service, you owe the phone. Combine that with the free line promotion they had a few days prior, I am guessing this is what is happening. The contract does not say anything about using the phone. As long as they keep their bill current and keep their service, it will be able to be used (I think...). I would be careful buying one of these V20s in case you are not allowed to use the phone on a line that isn't associated with the account, but that is me being a worry wort.
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Swappa won't let you sell a phone that still has anything owed on it. They check the IMEI.
I assume the bill credits wouldn't affect this as long as the phone is free and clear.
Sub-Negro said:
Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
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I bought one unopened for $485. It was purchased with the T-mobile employee discount for $285.
Evilv2 said:
I bought one unopened for $485. It was purchased with the T-mobile employee discount for $285.
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Nice find,congratulations! ?
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KOLIOSIS said:
Nice find,congratulations!
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Mix using XDA Labs
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I assume lot of the unopened were bought with significant discounts. They are being sold for $500 +/- $15.
Watch out t-mobile is the carrier that's gets the lg partner purchase program phones. They can not be carrier unlocked. That's why there up and cheap.
aknotts415 said:
Watch out t-mobile is the carrier that's gets the lg partner purchase program phones. They can not be carrier unlocked. That's why there up and cheap.
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I'm guessing you can use a paid SIM Unlock service to override this........................
KOLIOSIS said:
I'm guessing you can use a paid SIM Unlock service to override this........................
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Won't work. When they go to get the unlock code from T-Mobile the imei isn't in their system so they can't get it and it can't be done. Trust me. I've seen this happen on the v10 and g5. Just look it up.
aknotts415 said:
Won't work. When they go to get the unlock code from T-Mobile the imei isn't in their system so they can't get it and it can't be done. Trust me. I've seen this happen on the v10 and g5. Just look it up.
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If that's the case, I'd think the sellers would know better than to post a listing on Swappa.
Guess we'll find out soon enough how many of the listings are fraudulent.....
KOLIOSIS said:
If that's the case, I'd think the sellers would know better than to post a listing on Swappa.
Guess we'll find out soon enough how many of the listings are fraudulent.....
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There not fraudulent. Not sure why u think that. Theres nothing wrong with selling lg partner purchase program phones. They just can't be carrier unlocked and the sellers don't go out of their way to tell you. They just say their not sure.
aknotts415 said:
There not fraudulent. Not sure why u think that. Theres nothing wrong with selling lg partner purchase program phones. They just can't be carrier unlocked and the sellers don't go out of their way to tell you. They just say their not sure.
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Full disclosure is a given when selling on Swappa,anything less would be fraudulent,if not to the letter of the rules,it certainly would be in spirit/practice.
This is some good information though,glad you brought it up. :good:
I'm betting a lot of folks have never heard of such a thing.
Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
aknotts415 said:
Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
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I'd heard of employee deals/mfg-partner phones/etc..,but,I didn't know about the SIM Unlocking issue.
Again,many THX for bringing this up,you've no doubt saved some people a lot of trouble. :highfive:
FWIW,here's Swappa's policy on clean ESN's:
https://swappa.com/faq/sell/share_esn_numbers
Bulletproof,no,but,it sounds as if they're doing their due dilligence w/researching the ESN/IMEI,perhaps w/more tools than the general public is armed with.
Some sharp individuals here on XDA/Swappa running the show,I'm guessing/hoping they have this scenario covered,enough to ensure the buyers are protected in a worse-case scenario.
A little bit off topic, can you get square trade insurance for phones purchased at swappa?
aknotts415 said:
Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
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Um I'm not trying to be a pain but I bought my G5 from Tmobile and had it unlocked in 24 hours as I was traveling out of the country. I used the app on the phone and the code the rep gave me. I've traveled to 7 countries since then and used sim cards from each one no problem.
seanmfield said:
Um I'm not trying to be a pain but I bought my G5 from Tmobile and had it unlocked in 24 hours as I was traveling out of the country. I used the app on the phone and the code the rep gave me. I've traveled to 7 countries since then and used sim cards from each one no problem.
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Ur probly wasn't a lg partner purchase program one then lol.