[Q] Lost phone, recovered a few months later. What are my options? - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys,
So about 3 1/2 months ago my SGS3 was lost and now I've got it back. Guess someone felt guilty. Any way, some insurance calls and $130 later, I got a replacement phone and have been using that 'til recently. So my question is, is it possible to give my "lost" phone to a family member to use? I remember them blocking the IMEI number, but I've heard countless stories about people still being able to use "lost and unlocked" phones. What'll happen if I do end up giving it to my brother?
Any suggestions would be great. It would be a pain in my wallet to return a phone I once bought before, and I can't return this replacement phone either.

To keep things legit, that's gonna be a question for your insurance company. Technically the have replaced your "lost" phone.... But now you have it. Don't get yourself in trouble over something like that.

Probably need to make sure the esn is clear. If the phone was reported stolen, the esn will identify it as such.
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garbour said:
Probably need to make sure the esn is clear. If the phone was reported stolen, the esn will identify it as such.
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How do you check/reset it? Or is it not possible.

You should inform your insurance co. Good karma and that...:angel:

acalmenvoy said:
You should inform your insurance co. Good karma and that...:angel:
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When has insurance companies ever cared about "good karma" lol

Pretty sure contacting the carrier is the only way to clear an esn.
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Either contact the insurrance firm, either use it as an giant ipod. Think about it as being CDMA and u have only GSM available

I think that once it's locked you can't unlock the imei.
But try to contact you insurance anyway

You have to have it removed from the blocked list which only the insurance company can do, but if you read the fine print it covers what you need to do which is send back it to them.
As for changing the IMEI. This is illegal and talking about it is against XDA rules
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Identity theft with ausurion

So here's the deal my account information got stolen from ausurion 2 times already within this last year. The first time it was used to get a mytouch 4g and now a G2x. I had the phone not even a month and a claim was opened on the 23rd and they recieved the phone the 24th.
I called ausurion and they gave me a tracking number and its says the phone was delivered to Brooklyn NY, i live in Delaware. I'm very furious that my info got stolen so i called T-Mobile and asked if they can let me out of contract of course they said no and they said that's its not there fault.
This is identity theft and I'm letting you guys know be careful with your info with ausurion. I don't know what to do. Anybody have any advice? I want to leave T-Mobile because i no longer feel safe. Any advice would be appreciated.
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rvdangel630 said:
So here's the deal my account information got stolen from ausurion 2 times already within this last year. The first time it was used to get a mytouch 4g and now a G2x. I had the phone not even a month and a claim was opened on the 23rd and they recieved the phone the 24th.
I called ausurion and they gave me a tracking number and its says the phone was delivered to Brooklyn NY, i live in Delaware. I'm very furious that my info got stolen so i called T-Mobile and asked if they can let me out of contract of course they said no and they said that's its not there fault.
This is identity theft and I'm letting you guys know be careful with your info with ausurion. I don't know what to do. Anybody have any advice? I want to leave T-Mobile because i no longer feel safe. Any advice would be appreciated.
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I know some people at asurion. Pm me and I may be able to help.
rvdangel630 said:
So here's the deal my account information got stolen from ausurion 2 times already within this last year. The first time it was used to get a mytouch 4g and now a G2x. I had the phone not even a month and a claim was opened on the 23rd and they recieved the phone the 24th.
I called ausurion and they gave me a tracking number and its says the phone was delivered to Brooklyn NY, i live in Delaware. I'm very furious that my info got stolen so i called T-Mobile and asked if they can let me out of contract of course they said no and they said that's its not there fault.
This is identity theft and I'm letting you guys know be careful with your info with ausurion. I don't know what to do. Anybody have any advice? I want to leave T-Mobile because i no longer feel safe. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Tmobile is of course liable for their security mishap and ignorance. They should have checked the address.
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Damn that sucks bro, sorry to hear that. You know like last week I got a random text saying I can install the sec app from Tmobile twice(Was thinking and hoping it was a text for gb update). Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with it. I NEVER get text from tmob unless my bill is late and they want their money. I dunno but I don't think I'm gonna be downloaded the app or giving any info to my insurance unless they already have it of course. D=
rvdangel630 said:
So here's the deal my account information got stolen from ausurion 2 times already within this last year. The first time it was used to get a mytouch 4g and now a G2x. I had the phone not even a month and a claim was opened on the 23rd and they recieved the phone the 24th.
I called ausurion and they gave me a tracking number and its says the phone was delivered to Brooklyn NY, i live in Delaware. I'm very furious that my info got stolen so i called T-Mobile and asked if they can let me out of contract of course they said no and they said that's its not there fault.
This is identity theft and I'm letting you guys know be careful with your info with ausurion. I don't know what to do. Anybody have any advice? I want to leave T-Mobile because i no longer feel safe. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Don't let yourself fight with might.! Yea its true not your fault its there's. Take it to court.?
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jose makalolot said:
Tmobile is of course liable for their security mishap and ignorance. They should have checked the address.
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Yea I told them that and they said that people get there phone sent to different address all the time. I know its BS.
what's also BS is that I told them that I don't trust them with my information, so I asked if they can terminate my contract without me paying the termination fee and they said no, because they have nothing to do with it, the Rep said asurion is 100% liable.
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rvdangel630 said:
Yea I told them that and they said that people get there phone sent to different address all the time. I know its BS.
what's also BS is that I told them that I don't trust them with my information, so I asked if they can terminate my contract without me paying the termination fee and they said no, because they have nothing to do with it, the Rep said asurion is 100% liable.
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he is right, asurion is the one you should be going after, they are the ones completely liable for this situation... if you can prove all that you are claiming then it should not be that hard to push them around or if at worse you could take them to court... better yet if you can find other people who have had a similar problem to you then you could make a big case out of it and get them in a lot of trouble, especially if there is identity theft involved
rvdangel630 said:
Yea I told them that and they said that people get there phone sent to different address all the time. I know its BS.
what's also BS is that I told them that I don't trust them with my information, so I asked if they can terminate my contract without me paying the termination fee and they said no, because they have nothing to do with it, the Rep said asurion is 100% liable.
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This is a first time post here on the xda forums. I know what you mean, I had the same thing happen to me a few months ago. I received a text from tmobile telling me I need to be sure to send back my damaged device in-order to prevent me from being charged full retail. This was on my BB 9780. I told them it wasn't me, and they wouldn't tell me where it was sent due to "security" purposes despite it being MY account and information they used to get it. All they would tell me was it was not sent in to the state of Texas which is where I live. Pretty much what happened to you is the same... except since I made a claim a REAL one within a year, plus the false claim that they gained my info that was 2 time claim...... insurance was canceled...
rvdangel630 said:
So here's the deal my account information got stolen from ausurion 2 times already within this last year. The first time it was used to get a mytouch 4g and now a G2x. I had the phone not even a month and a claim was opened on the 23rd and they recieved the phone the 24th.
I called ausurion and they gave me a tracking number and its says the phone was delivered to Brooklyn NY, i live in Delaware. I'm very furious that my info got stolen so i called T-Mobile and asked if they can let me out of contract of course they said no and they said that's its not there fault.
This is identity theft and I'm letting you guys know be careful with your info with ausurion. I don't know what to do. Anybody have any advice? I want to leave T-Mobile because i no longer feel safe. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Report it to better business bureau (BBB) they do an investigation for free and force both companies to resolve the complaint or they get fined big time
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I wonder if it's their own employees that are responsible for the theft. I almost can't believe my eyes when I read this post... I am new to T-Mobile and I did sign up for the handset insurance
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Daffydukc said:
I wonder if it's their own employees that are responsible for the theft. I almost can't believe my eyes when I read this post... I am new to T-Mobile and I did sign up for the handset insurance
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There are bad apples in every bunch. I know that Asurion will be eager to fix any real issues. I have contacted the op but have not received any details. I plan on notifying them about potential abuse/theft later today. Without details it is hard to follow up and make the changes nessesary to avoid this in the future. Without details this is just another thread on the internet.
I got a text from T-Mobile asking that I visit some site since I'm an insured customer. Pretty sure I'll just ignore it since I've never had issues in the past.
Oh, and I live at a different address than my bill goes to. I cannot get upgrades sent to my address, but I can get warranty replacements sent here. Seems like if it's a warranty replacement they don't care where it goes. Which is fine in my situation since I live about 1200 miles from where my bills are sent.
nuBex86 said:
Damn that sucks bro, sorry to hear that. You know like last week I got a random text saying I can install the sec app from Tmobile twice(Was thinking and hoping it was a text for gb update). Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with it. I NEVER get text from tmob unless my bill is late and they want their money. I dunno but I don't think I'm gonna be downloaded the app or giving any info to my insurance unless they already have it of course. D=
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No, that's a legit text. Tmo changed the insurance plans and now you get mobile security for free if you have the insurance. The text just informs you that you can download the apply (which you can find in the market as "mobile security T-Mobile."
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ciscojmd said:
This is a first time post here on the xda forums. I know what you mean, I had the same thing happen to me a few months ago. I received a text from tmobile telling me I need to be sure to send back my damaged device in-order to prevent me from being charged full retail. This was on my BB 9780. I told them it wasn't me, and they wouldn't tell me where it was sent due to "security" purposes despite it being MY account and information they used to get it. All they would tell me was it was not sent in to the state of Texas which is where I live. Pretty much what happened to you is the same... except since I made a claim a REAL one within a year, plus the false claim that they gained my info that was 2 time claim...... insurance was canceled...
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yes the same thing happened to me earlier this year i recieved a text stating that i need to send in the damage handset, in which ended up being fraud and they fixed it. again yesterday i recieved the same text i said " oh no not this again" and for sure it was the same thing but this time i got a tracking number and seen that it was delivered to someone in ny. and for sure because to many claims were made so they cancelled my insurance.
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No, that's a legit text. Tmo changed the insurance plans and now you get mobile security for free if you have the insurance. The text just informs you that you can download the apply (which you can find in the market as "mobile security T-Mobile."
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no its a text stating that the damaged phone need s to sent in. your thinking of something else.
Asurion handles insurance claims for all of the other carriers too, except for a couple of small ones. If the leak is at Asurion (which honestly, sounds like it is) you're not getting away from anything.
You can only do 2 claims per year with Asurion, warranty exchanges thru T-Mobile are pretty much unlimited speaking from experience.

[Q] Bad Esn!?

I need some advice peeps. I thought I lost my new charge couldn't find it for two days, took a rafting trip and hadn't seen it since. I fig it for gone down the river. I made a claim with asurion and the new phone came ystdy, in the meantime I found my phone buried under my seat in my truck. I charged it and powered it up to discover that it is still working as of today even after I made the claim thru asurion a few days ago. Now I have an extra phone. Is it illegal or does anyone know if I can sell one of the two phones. I figured my original would be flagged with a bad ESN? What should I do, I thought about giving one to my brother but don't want to get him in trouble or think I ran a scam. I did have to pay 99 dollars for the replacement, help???? WWYD???
juddrock said:
I need some advice peeps. I thought I lost my new charge couldn't find it for two days, took a rafting trip and hadn't seen it since. I fig it for gone down the river. I made a claim with asurion and the new phone came ystdy, in the meantime I found my phone buried under my seat in my truck. I charged it and powered it up to discover that it is still working as of today even after I made the claim thru asurion a few days ago. Now I have an extra phone. Is it illegal or does anyone know if I can sell one of the two phones. I figured my original would be flagged with a bad ESN? What should I do, I thought about giving one to my brother but don't want to get him in trouble or think I ran a scam. I did have to pay 99 dollars for the replacement, help???? WWYD???
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It happens. In the previous days, your ESN (which is 'burned' into the SOC) would be trashed when you activate the new phone. Today, though, since LTE phones are now SIM based, a new SIM might activate the old phone just fine. It's possible, though, that the claim trashed the IMEI, but there's no way to tell without talking directly to Verizon.
Keeping it constitutes insurance fraud, and yes, that's illegal. The right thing to do, legally and ethically, is to call Asurion and tell them you found your original phone. They'll probably send you a box and tell you to ship one of the phones back.
If you are still using the phone you lost you can.still sell the new one.you got in the same thing happen to me
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Falcyn said:
Keeping it constitutes insurance fraud, and yes, that's illegal. The right thing to do, legally and ethically, is to call Asurion and tell them you found your original phone. They'll probably send you a box and tell you to ship one of the phones back.
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Technically is it Fraud? I'm just asking not saying it's not indeed. That's why I posted because I'm torn. I've paid on insurance for at least the last 5 years and never made a claim @ almost 7 dollars a month for insurance. I needed my phone ASAP and made the claim. Did I overreact, maybe, but now I forked our 99 dollars plus close to half a grand that I've paid insurance over the last 5 years. Honest mistake now I have two phones. If its not illegal I wouldn't mind just letting my brother have the phone or maybe keep it as a spare etc.. IDK really??
Its insurance fraud plain and simple...the right thing to do is call them and telthen you found it
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Actually, it's not fraud, since he believed the phone was lost and made the claim in good faith.
Fraud is a very strict legal term, the primary facet of which is intent.
Now, if it was a situation like we've seen before where the phone is having problems and he didn't want to pay to get it replaced out of warranty so instead claimed it lost, then THAT would be fraud.
This kind of thing happens all the time.
I would advise against selling the phone, since that would make your motives suspect to anyone investigating the situation.
If it will activate with a fresh SIM, however, then use it as spare or give it to your brother.
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Actually, it's not fraud, since he believed the phone was lost and made the claim in good faith.
Fraud is a very strict legal term, the primary facet of which is intent.
Now, if it was a situation like we've seen before where the phone is having problems and he didn't want to pay to get it replaced out of warranty so instead claimed it lost, then THAT would be fraud.
This kind of thing happens all the time.
I would advise against selling the phone, since that would make your motives suspect to anyone investigating the situation.
If it will activate with a fresh SIM, however, then use it as spare or give it to your brother.
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IDK, I really am torn, my bro's phone is junk and he's not eligible for the upgrade. If I were to take my chances should I keep the new sim in my old phone and give him my old sim in the new one or just keep the sims with the phones they are in now, or would it even matter?
juddrock said:
IDK, I really am torn, my bro's phone is junk and he's not eligible for the upgrade. If I were to take my chances should I keep the new sim in my old phone and give him my old sim in the new one or just keep the sims with the phones they are in now, or would it even matter?
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The old sim is probably toast, anyway due to the claim.
Right now, you should be running a new SIM in your new phone. That's the one that's active on your account.
Maybe someone more familiar with the SIM activation process can chime in about a potential process.
Edit: Of course, it's also entirely possible that they burned the IMEI with the claim as well, making your old phone a very stylish and expensive MP3 player.
AlexDeGruven said:
The old sim is probably toast, anyway due to the claim.
Right now, you should be running a new SIM in your new phone. That's the one that's active on your account.
Maybe someone more familiar with the SIM activation process can chime in about a potential process.
Edit: Of course, it's also entirely possible that they burned the IMEI with the claim as well, making your old phone a very stylish and expensive MP3 player.
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But, here's the kicker, I haven't even activated my new phone, I'm still currently using the original phone and sim, so go figure, it's not toast as of yet, should I just keep it on the DL for a month or so and see if they shut my current device down?
juddrock said:
But, here's the kicker, I haven't even activated my new phone, I'm still currently using the original phone and sim, so go figure, it's not toast as of yet, should I just keep it on the DL for a month or so and see if they shut my current device down?
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I'm surprised they haven't burned the SIM or the IMEI. At this point, you're out of my experience range, so I don't want to say something that could cause problems.
I would be willing to bet that IMEI on the original phone has been or is in the process of being flagged as stolen/bad/whatever. Blacklisted so it cannot be activated on VZW again. It would work on a different network like Cricket if it can be flashed but it could be that it doesn't happen until the replacement is activated. I would toss the old one in a drawer or sell as a bad ESN device without a sim or use it only as a PDA on wifi at the house. If you were to sell the new one, and keep the original, when the other guy activates it and your phone stops working its going to suck. Not saying this will happen for sure, but not worth trying. I would call Verizon and ask them what will happen.
If you're worried enough about it to ask here, then just do the right thing and call them and send the replacement back.
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Actually, it's not fraud, since he believed the phone was lost and made the claim in good faith.
Fraud is a very strict legal term, the primary facet of which is intent.
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You are wrong sir plain and simple.
See, ask yourself how did the OP get an insurance claim? He claimed the phone was lost or stolen (doesn't matter) and because his was lost... He filed a.claim...
Asurion claims it as a loss...and ships him out an insurance replacement...
Now, if or should he find the phone?
That phone belongs to Asurion NOT the OP. Get it?
Why does it belong to Asurion?
Read the terms and conditions of Asurion's service.
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SigmunDroid said:
You are wrong sir plain and simple.
See, ask yourself how did the OP get an insurance claim? He claimed the phone was lost or stolen (doesn't matter) and because his was lost... He filed a.claim...
Asurion claims it as a loss...and ships him out an insurance replacement...
Now, if or should he find the phone?
That phone belongs to Asurion NOT the OP. Get it?
Why does it belong to Asurion?
Read the terms and conditions of Asurion's service.
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At that point Asurion (the company, not a dude named Asurion) was done with the deal. They have no interest in the old phone. It was written off a long time ago. They report the claim to Verizon who then does their part and blacklists the IMEI/ESN so that device cannot be reused on their network. Its over. He doesn't owe Asurion anything as he paid for a service he didn't use for the longest time and finally got to use it in a manner that was completely non-fradulent and valid. The OP should do whatever he wants with the phone but I wouldn't trust it.
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Actually, it's not fraud, since he believed
Fraud is a very strict legal term, the primary facet of which is intent.
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If he chooses to keep the phone now that he's found it, that's intent. He should have read his agreement with Asurion. Legally, the phone now belongs to them.
Asurion's terms clearly state for lost/stolen phones that if the phone is ever found it is required to be sent back to them.
Oh, and by the way: it's in no small part due to things like this our deductibles are so high. Remember when they were just $50? Yeah... Thanks.
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Oh, and by the way: it's in no small part due to things like this our deductibles are so high. Remember when they were just $50? Yeah... Thanks.
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That's why I don't buy insurance. A few months after getting a phone you can find a replacement for cheap enough because they released 5 newer models since then. To hell with insurance. Between the deductible and monthly premiums you technically already paid for the phone they send you. Its like a savings account that can only be used on a (now outdated) cell phone. Not exactly a bargain IMO.
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That's why I don't buy insurance. A few months after getting a phone you can find a replacement for cheap enough because they released 5 newer models since then. To hell with insurance. Between the deductible and monthly premiums you technically already paid for the phone they send you. Its like a savings account that can only be used on a (now outdated) cell phone. Not exactly a bargain IMO.
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Also why I don't buy it..way overpriced for what you get...full coverage insurance on a vehicle that cost 30k is around 100 to 200 a month...so like .5%. The same on a 400 dollar phone is 7 a month...about 2%...do it costs 4 times more to insure a phone than my vehicle...no thanks
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New to GSM, have a couple questions...

Ok, I was a customer with sprint for a while, and just switched to t mobile. I have a chance to buy a g2x fairly cheap on CL, but the seller admitted that he lost the phone, filed an insurance claim, then found it. He says if I put my sim card in everything will be fine. I'm a little sketched out by this and I guess my question is....
I know cdma phones imei can be blacklisted by carrier under certain circumstances. Is this possible with GSM phones as well, or can you just insert your sim card and have it work?? I googled this and got a mixed bag of results. I've been perusing these forums for a while (you guys helped me root my evo), and have noticed everyone here seems willing to help. So I decided to make an account and see if you guys can help me out. Any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance.
hey first of all welcome, i'm just gonna share my experiences, neva had any troubles with that or heard anything bout blacklisting a gsm imei, always bought phoones online, on ppls (craigslist) gave phones away, found phones, all i had to do is pop the sim in it, i'm using my g2x on simple mobile right now, same thing, dont have to call to activate or anything like that. hope it helped, and other users will give u more info for sure
Why not just contact T-Mobile and ask them? It really is the best place to look for this answer, and requires less effort and time than searching through numerous search results and forums. People here really are very helpful, but sometimes you get the best answer by just going straight to the carrier. Explain the situation, give them the miei number and you'll get your answer.
Hopefully this didn't come off as a rude reply, lol. If it did, sorry...didn't mean it that way
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Why not just contact T-Mobile and ask them? It really is the best place to look for this answer, and requires less effort and time than searching through numerous search results and forums. People here really are very helpful, but sometimes you get the best answer by just going straight to the carrier. Explain the situation, give them the miei number and you'll get your answer.
Hopefully this didn't come off as a rude reply, lol. If it did, sorry...didn't mean it that way
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First of all welcome and I would call T-Mobile too. Also be kind when you talk to them, it makes them want to help you and explain your situation.
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Moe is right. I know because I work in customer service. When a customer comes up to me and is yelling and calling me names, i'm less inclined to help them 100%. If they are slightly rude and/or disrespectful, it will depend on my mood. But when they come to me and calmly and politely express concerns or whatever, I put forth 110% to help them. Give what you want given back. That's what I say!
The phone legally belongs to the insurance company who replaced the phone. In essence, you will be buying a stolen device. It was the seller's obligation to return the phone to the insurance carrier if found. The phone can be blocked by IMEI so there is a danger that you will be throwing away your money. Carriers in the U.S. do block IMEI numbers of lost and stolen phones in their own systems.
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The phone legally belongs to the insurance company who replaced the phone. In essence, you will be buying a stolen device. It was the seller's obligation to return the phone to the insurance carrier if found. The phone can be blocked by IMEI so there is a danger that you will be throwing away your money. Carriers in the U.S. do block IMEI numbers of lost and stolen phones in their own systems.
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+1 for this
What I would do is ask the seller for the #'s off the phone (if they wanna sell it bad enough they will) then call T-Mobile and just ask, tell them you were considering buying this phone off cl and wanted to know if this phone is safe ie not reported stolen or missing and that you would be able to use it on T-Mobile..
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I don't think a phone has ever been blocked off of t mobile. These sorts of things only happen with CDMA carriers.
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Thank you all for your advice. I think I will get the imei and call t mobile to be sure. Last thing I wanna do is throw money away lol. Thanks again for all your help
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Good luck. I'd like to know what their response is so please keep us updated so we know what will happen in the future.
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my one s blocked with IMEI number ?

so my phone lost signal and i called t-mobile and they told me that my phone got block my imei number has been blacklisted i didnt even know they do this thing on tmobile i payed 450 dollars for my phone and i dont know waht to do because i bought it from some guy on GL if anybody works in tmobile that cant help please do
Ek07 said:
so my phone lost signal and i called t-mobile and they told me that my phone got block my imei number has been blacklisted i didnt even know they do this thing on tmobile i payed 450 dollars for my phone and i dont know waht to do because i bought it from some guy on GL if anybody works in tmobile that cant help please do
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That's very sad, but there's probably nothing you can do except using a different IMEI and just using your SIM card in the One S.. blacklisted IMEI is blacklisted. There's a possibility it was marked stolen or lost, possibly for insurance fraud (claim as stolen, get new device for ~$100, sell 'stolen' device for $450, profit), or possibly for non-payment of bill..
linds6630 said:
That's very sad, but there's probably nothing you can do except using a different IMEI and just using your SIM card in the One S.. blacklisted IMEI is blacklisted. There's a possibility it was marked stolen or lost, possibly for insurance fraud (claim as stolen, get new device for ~$100, sell 'stolen' device for $450, profit), or possibly for non-payment of bill..
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yea i guess thats what happended it worked for a month now is gone , but how would i get a diif imei number i think thats impossible
You cant get a different imei. Long story short you are screwed. Try to sell the device for $200 the most that you can get
dude that is terrible !!
I would hunt that seller down and kill him, Or ring the police on him..
Try explaining to the carrier that blacklisted the phone whats happened, they will know who the previous owner is and they can get him done for fraud
I wouldn't just accept whats happened !! no way, not after paying $450
Or unlock it and use it on att :/ I hope this doesn't happen to me I've just traded my note plus a few.bucks for a.one s its been a week so far way to.many shady people now a days , but what I don't get if.u where using it for a.month shouldn't that imei be under Ur plan ?
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Or unlock it and use it on att :/ I hope this doesn't happen to me I've just traded my note plus a few.bucks for a.one s its been a week so far way to.many shady people now a days , but what I don't get if.u where using it for a.month shouldn't that imei be under Ur plan ?
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I agree. I am assuming you called tmo to activate the new microsim card when you got the phone. And when you activated, that imei should have been put on your account. I suggest you ask tmo to clarify how this happened.
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I agree. I am assuming you called tmo to activate the new microsim card when you got the phone. And when you activated, that imei should have been put on your account. I suggest you ask tmo to clarify how this happened.
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yea this a new thing i was reading once the phone is blacklisted all major carriers in the us will block it , i did call they just said to return it back to the store where i bought it smh they said they cannot do anything about it
Ek07 said:
yea this a new thing i was reading once the phone is blacklisted all major carriers in the us will block it , i did call they just said to return it back to the store where i bought it smh they said they cannot do anything about it
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I would push it further with T-Mobile. I would ask to talk to a manager, and that manager's manager. Tell them you want to know who reported it lost/stolen so you can call the police for fraud. I would also insist on them telling you WHEN it was reported lost/stolen. If it was AFTER you activated the phone on your account then you need to know who reported, again, to report to the police.
I don't suppose you did any type of hand written receipt did you? I NEVER deal on craigslist (accept to sell). Ebay only, they have buyer protection.
EDIT: Then again, there may be privacy reasons that they cannot tell you who reported. Just sucks. You got the guys number still?
Always a danger buying a secondhand phone on Ebay or any other aution style site,
"Selling my Upgrade" then they claim on insurance then get another phone....big win for these people
How did you pay for it? and as someone else posted...did you get a receipt?
frazzeld said:
Always a danger buying a secondhand phone on Ebay or any other aution style site,
"Selling my Upgrade" then they claim on insurance then get another phone....big win for these people
How did you pay for it? and as someone else posted...did you get a receipt?
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Ebay, payed with Paypal, has buyer protection. If fraud is involved, you can get your money back.
Craigslist, screwed.
setzer715 said:
Ebay, payed with Paypal, has buyer protection. If fraud is involved, you can get your money back.
Craigslist, screwed.
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45 days protection with PayPal and usually say buyer eligable for protection on your transaction....I notice a few adverts are appearing with Bank Transfer
If it was.sealed and never activated can it still be.reported ? Isn't that even more of a danger ?
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If what was sealed ? The phone ?
Surely the OP can get a solution to this !!
Im so gutted for him
Yeah my case sounds a lot like something posted above guy said it was an upgrade but he wanted a note he had two one was open to register the sim and the other he said he just kept old sim for the note when I openes it everything was fresh never touched the stickers didn't look like they where pulled from the box either I guess all I can do.is wait and hope .
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Coming from a tmo insider. Your phone is black listed because the guy you got it from didnt pay his bill. If eq is purchased on the value plan and It's not paid they will disable the device. Only way around is to bring the account it was on current
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Coming from a tmo insider. Your phone is black listed because the guy you got it from didnt pay his bill. If eq is purchased on the value plan and It's not paid they will disable the device. Only way around is to bring the account it was on current
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yeah i called thats what they said but how im get that account im dont even know where the guy is , im stuck with it
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yeah i called thats what they said but how im get that account im dont even know where the guy is , im stuck with it
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Your best option would be to sell it oversees. The US and EU don't share blacklists.
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Your best option would be to sell it oversees. The US and EU don't share blacklists.
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yea im trying
Ek07 : i woukd like to buy it.. Sent u a pm .. Kindly respond..

question re possible stolen phone

i have been offered a 2nd hand phone at a very good price, however the person offering the phone is not shall we say the most honest person in the world. if i were to buy this phone and shove a sim into it and use it could it
a. be locked at a later date
b. tracked
c. is there anything i could do in the way of rooting or something in order to avoid this.
many thanks
The answer would be to not buy the phone. I received an iPhone as payment once and I called to see if it was legit. It was stolen. I contacted the og owner and there was a huge fiasco with the cops and how the owner thought i was the one who stole the phone. If I had stolen it I certainly wouldn't have tried to return it. Long story short. Don't buy stuff that could potentially be stolen or lost and always check everything out before hand.
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Unfortunately the ESN or electronic serial number CA be blocked by any of the providers and that means phone blocking which suuuuucks! What I have done in the past when I have received questionable devices I have called the provider and asked them to verify that the phone has a clean ESN before I paid for it or allowed it to be used as payment for services rendered. Most of the time if you play stupid and tell the provider that you bought the phone and were totally unaware that it had a bad ESN, they will usually send you the same model if you ask and tell them that you are going to send them the stolen one. There have been a couple of times they haven't done that and I've been stuck with the bad phone and in that case I used those as scrap and just cannibalize the parts to fix other phones.
I hope this helps you but if you have any doubt that it is stolen I would ask them to pay you with something that won't bring the cops to your door.
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I used those as scrap and just cannibalize the parts to fix other phones
Don't buy it, when you buy you support robbery, I was robbed once so I know the feeling , if you want a good deal buy a nexus 5

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