Noob Verizon Question - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Ok, so I'm not a dev and I don't get most of the terms being thrown around here (although I think I've actually picked up a decent amount). Basically, what I'd like to do with my phone is to root and then upgrade to JB as soon as possible (and to Key Lime Pie as soon as possible once it comes out too). With how the bootloader stuff stands right now, will I be able to do that safely once ROMs start coming out or would I have to wait for Verizon's OTA's?

Which phone would that be, sgs3? The bootloader is encrypted but I believe you can flash roms with stock kernels as its been rooted. But there are several threads explaining the options... Get a gnex!
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ttahatt said:
Which phone would that be, sgs3? The bootloader is encrypted but I believe you can flash roms with stock kernels as its been rooted. But there are several threads explaining the options... Get a gnex!
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Yeah I was leaning towards the GNex but if I can get custom roms on an S3 then why not get that (as long as I'm ok with stock kernels)?

Yeh that's what I'm not sure of...especially with this 'developer' sgs3 from Samsung. I have given up on skins from oems who won't give into Verizon's ridiculous demands. I'd be very cautious attempting to flash anything yet as its very new.
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Good for Enterprise on 11/15 JB Leak?

Hey guys-
I use Good for Enterprise on my gs3, currently running stock ICS. I want to flash the new stock rooted JB leak (11/15 kernel) but since Good is not officially supported on JB with this device, my supervisor is telling me not to do it since it could cause the app to not work right. I am rooted with an unlocked bootloader just itching to flash this...
Getting new PINs for the app are not an issue, since I am one of the Good admins in my company.
Anyone know if it is ok for me to do this? I think he is being ridiculous about this, considering we know it has gs3 support and JB support. Sprint has has JB for weeks already!
Doesn't this app check for root? The company I work for uses Good and a buddy had a S3 rooted (Sprint) and the admins said he couldn't use it because he was rooted. If you put on a stock not rooted image then I would think it would work unless JB gives it problems.
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Try it. Make sure you do a nandroid backup first. If you run into a problem you can just revert back to what you were using before you flashed and pick up like you never wiped all data apps and info are restored.
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Doesn't this app check for root? The company I work for uses Good and a buddy had a S3 rooted (Sprint) and the admins said he couldn't use it because he was rooted. If you put on a stock not rooted image then I would think it would work unless JB gives it problems.
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I have been rooted for a few months now, and have not come across an issue... I have read that it checks for root also, but maybe the way my company configured it, it doesn't matter?
I am the guy in my office that configures the PINs and i can see device status for everything, and mine seems normal.
Go ahead and give it a try if your comfortable doing it like the above post has, make a nandroid and go at it!
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sthpaw01 said:
Go ahead and give it a try if your comfortable doing it like the above post has, make a nandroid and go at it!
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i decided to suck it up and give it a shot... IT WORKS!
I don't really know what this means but if it means a future employer of mine doesn't notice I'm rooted, thanks for asking this question.
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Good on JB
droideris1 said:
Hey guys-
I use Good for Enterprise on my gs3, currently running stock ICS. I want to flash the new stock rooted JB leak (11/15 kernel) but since Good is not officially supported on JB with this device, my supervisor is telling me not to do it since it could cause the app to not work right. I am rooted with an unlocked bootloader just itching to flash this...
Getting new PINs for the app are not an issue, since I am one of the Good admins in my company.
Anyone know if it is ok for me to do this? I think he is being ridiculous about this, considering we know it has gs3 support and JB support. Sprint has has JB for weeks already!
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Your employer can choose whether to allow Good on a rooted device. Mine allows it, and Good works fine on my GS3 with the first JB release.. Except for the "secure browser".. Apparently that does not support JB yet.

[Q] How to dual boot (multi boot)?

Hi All, here's the use case: I use my phone for work quite a lot, so I need a stable, fully configured version running during working hours (this is, my curent rooted-stock 4.1.2, but also I want to play with other ROMS and possibly in the future migrate from my main stock ROM to a custom one.
I've read that it was possible to dual-boot on CM9 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774795) and that for other S3 (I9300 and I9305) there's a kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686) that allows multi-boot pretty easy.
Now I want to know, is it possible and is there a good totorial to dual boot in an updated Verizon S3 (I535VRBMF1)?
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rhaces said:
Hi All, here's the use case: I use my phone for work quite a lot, so I need a stable, fully configured version running during working hours (this is, my curent rooted-stock 4.1.2, but also I want to play with other ROMS and possibly in the future migrate from my main stock ROM to a custom one.
I've read that it was possible to dual-boot on CM9 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774795) and that for other S3 (I9300 and I9305) there's a kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686) that allows multi-boot pretty easy.
Now I want to know, is it possible and is there a good totorial to dual boot in an updated Verizon S3 (I535VRBMF1)?
Thanks
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No as none of the kernels has a dual boot option.
As mentioned it's not possible. Next best option is to nandroid and restore as needed
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The way these S3's are... it just isn't possible to dual boot.
I wish it was an option.
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RBarnett09 said:
The way these S3's are... it just isn't possible to dual boot.
I wish it was an option.
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Is it really impossible? Back before the bootloader was unlocked we were using kexec to theoretically do the same thing.
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No isn't possible with this phone since we no longer use kexec and pretty much all of the custom kernels don't have any dual boot option.
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Is it really impossible? Back before the bootloader was unlocked we were using kexec to theoretically do the same thing.
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I'm positive. The best and closest thing we can do is backup ROMs and flash back and forth between them... but actually dual booting won't happen. It has something to do with how our phones boot up... I've read the explanation somewhere.
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RBarnett09 said:
I'm positive. The best and closest thing we can do is backup ROMs and flash back and forth between them... but actually dual booting won't happen. It has something to do with how our phones boot up... I've read the explanation somewhere.
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Hmm, I'll have to look for that explanation. It would seem to me that someone could build a kernel with kexec again and multiboot kind of like Tasssadar did for the Nexus 7. I realize it's different hardware than the N7, but seems it would be doable since something similar was already done once-upon-a-time on this device.
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Hmm, I'll have to look for that explanation. It would seem to me that someone could build a kernel with kexec again and multiboot kind of like Tasssadar did for the Nexus 7. I realize it's different hardware than the N7, but seems it would be doable since something similar was already done once-upon-a-time on this device.
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There were certain kernels that could dual boot for an S3, but from my understanding, not for the VZW S3 (I could be wrong here, or just wrong entirely). I really don't know much about kernels and hardware, but maybe it has something to do with the lack of hardware that a VZW S3 has compared to the others. Quite possibly the processors since the VZW is actually only a dual core? Not sure if that would have anything to do with it. Lol.
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Dual Boot has definitely been achieved on the Verizon Galaxy S3 via kexec. It was how we were able to get around the locked bootloader. Once it was unlocked however we no longer needed it so it was dropped. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28809516
I for one would definitely donate to any dev that was able to come up with a working solution (like Tasssadar's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403)
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ROM after 4.3 OTA Update

I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
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I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
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4.3 OTA is LOCKED down! If you attempt to flash a ROM or recovery, you WILL HARD BRICK your phone
Doubtful because it hasn't happened to the s4 people. I would say hope for safestrap.
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I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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jjosph said:
I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
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That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
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If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
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If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
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Yes, if you took the 4.3 OTA and try to flash an older stock build, you will brick your phone. As it stands right now, if you took the OTA you can root it, but you are still stuck on that stock ROM.
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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As of right now if you took the OTA update to Android 4.3 your hopes of doing anything custom other than rooting your phone are hopeless.
In order to flash a ROM such as Android 4.4.X aka KitKat you need a custom recovery manager. To be able to flash anything the first thing you need is an unlocked bootloader. The OTA update has locked the bootloader down so that you if you were to try and install CWM or TWRP recovery as soon as you boot into recovery mode you are going to get a Yellow Triangle that says "Verizon has detected unauthorized software on this phone, please turn off your phone and take it in to your nearest Verizon Store.
If you turn off your phone and power it back on you will keep getting that message...
The only way around it is to boot into Download Mode -> Vol Down + HOME for 2 Seconds then hit Power (if i remember correctly). After you boot into download mode you can then boot your phone back up regularly.
If you have made the mistake of trying to put a custom recovery on your phone you can put the stock recovery back on your SGS3 (stock recovery is better than no recovery) by downloading the recovery image and overwriting your custom recovery with the command "dd" in Android Terminal Emulator. For this to work you must be rooted.
Here is a link to the tutorial which shows you how to write the stock bootloader and stock recovery back to your Verizon (d2vzw) SGS3 in case you have made this mistake...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166
In that thread pay close attention to the 2nd post as it shows you the commands to use to write your stock recovery or stock bootloader back to your phone.
I know it sucks that we can't put custom ROM's or a custom recovery (this hurts the most!) on our Verizon phone for now at least...
COME ON VERIZON EMPLOYEES! LEAK THE UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER! WE WONT TELL!
Maybe we will get lucky and some international version will come out and we can use that...
I remember awhile back that ASUS locked their bootloader on their Transformer tablet and you could request it from ASUS and they made you fill out this form saying that you understood by unlocking your bootloader you could not make a claim for a warranty. Why can't Verizon do that!?
I pray someone works this out eventually...
"Hope for the best prepare for the worst" - ?
-droidshadow
ATGkompressor said:
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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That would still require you to have a custom recovery. Also that would still most likely brick your phone cause the only 4.4 ROMS are AOSP based, meaning it installs a different kernel than the stock one. Thus when when the phone would boot up it would check the the kernels signature and would brick upon not finding one.
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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ATGkompressor said:
Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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Safestrap is not available for the s3. It would have to be ported.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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ATGkompressor said:
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
wenzer said:
You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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Probably not, it's a 14 day return window now.
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They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
I've looking for one and I bricked my phone twice. It looks likes it's going to be a min before we see one.
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danielevon said:
They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
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There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
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ATGkompressor said:
There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
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Cleanrom 8 and samstock.
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And most of them say specifically that they are for unlocked bootloaders or not compatible with safestrap. Is there some trick I need to know to flash these roms in safestrap on 4.3 with a locked bootloader?

Verizon [ST S3](SCH-S968C)Unlocked Bootloader?

Hey! So I have a Verizon Version of the Straight Talk S3. (SCH-S968C). It is identical to the Verzion version, just no LTE or Wifi Thether capabilities. It also has no sim, etc. I was wanting to test a few roms on it, and I was wondering, how to unlock the bottloader on it without bricking the phone? Any help? Thanks. :silly:
im wondering the same thing.
im in the same boat and have the same model s968c on straight talk. ive got it rooted and want to install roms but im concerned about the bootloader being locked and bricking my phone. but i made it this far so im doing pretty good lol considering ive never messed with rooting or such lol. if someone could enlighten us that would be awesome. ive been researching and reading for about two days so i could learn as much as possible about this phone model and i know straight talk is no fun trying to mess with.
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Hey! So I have a Verizon Version of the Straight Talk S3. (SCH-S968C). It is identical to the Verzion version, just no LTE or Wifi Thether capabilities. It also has no sim, etc. I was wanting to test a few roms on it, and I was wondering, how to unlock the bottloader on it without bricking the phone? Any help? Thanks. :silly:
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chrisrich1 said:
im in the same boat and have the same model s968c on straight talk. ive got it rooted and want to install roms but im concerned about the bootloader being locked and bricking my phone. but i made it this far so im doing pretty good lol considering ive never messed with rooting or such lol. if someone could enlighten us that would be awesome. ive been researching and reading for about two days so i could learn as much as possible about this phone model and i know straight talk is no fun trying to mess with.
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From what I've been reading it seems to be that this is pretty legit, I tried it myself. Although if your on 4.3 ML1 or 4.4.2 NE1 your locked down
If you power off the device, then power it back on, you should see the words "Samsung" first. If they stay on the screen for more than 2 seconds, then it's locked down. If it flashes by almost instantly, then you're unlocked
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From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
I not positive about it being locked down with the sch-968c) because that's a verizon boot loader issue and this is a straight talk phone. I've been researching as well and from what I've learned, it can be rooted very quickly using cydia impactor and then flashing cwm recovery for roms and such. The apn settings may need some tweaking. I'm planning to do this to my friends phone this weekend and putting liquid smooth rom on it.
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I not positive about it being locked down with the sch-968c) because that's a verizon boot loader issue and this is a straight talk phone. I've been researching as well and from what I've learned, it can be rooted very quickly using cydia impactor and then flashing cwm recovery for roms and such. The apn settings may need some tweaking. I'm planning to do this to my friends phone this weekend and putting liquid smooth rom on it.
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As far as I know any d2lte ROM will work. So far I've tried CM, PA and Pac-Man. All installed fine but they all suffer from the no APN issue which can be bypassed by using 8sms from the play store and changing the APN settings by adding Http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms. Handcent should also work.
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From what I've been reading it seems to be that this is pretty legit, I tried it myself. Although if your on 4.3 ML1 or 4.4.2 NE1 your locked down
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Is that my quote?
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Is that my quote?
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You got it man. Pulled it from another thread.
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i dont think straight talk updated the s3 to 4.3 or 4.4.2 i dont think i might be wrong but straight talk really dont push otas much.
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i dont think straight talk updated the s3 to 4.3 or 4.4.2 i dont think i might be wrong but straight talk really dont push otas much.
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In that case that's a good thing. I don't know myself as I own the vzw variant
From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
I suggest using towelroot. Its much faster and does not require a pc to root your phone.
Yes towel root works great actually the best out of the non pc methods for this device (out of my experience anyway) the phone runs on 4.1.2 and I have no access to a pc so I'm guessing that there's not a very safe or efficient way to install custom roms...
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Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas

Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
sk8terboy13 said:
Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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sk8terboy13 said:
Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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I'm a pretty amateur dev when it comes to android. I have this phone and its killing me that no one has even tried to do anything about this in recent months, I seriously want to try a software mod for this horridly annoying dilemma before doing an emmc replacement. If I'm not mistaken loki project failed yes?
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You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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Well I agree I'm just being realistic here. With any trial and errors there will always be failure, while there may be a triumph I just don't think any will work
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You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
DigitalMD said:
You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
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lepa71 said:
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
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You are missing something, unless you are on the 4.3 locked bootloader , there is a 4.4.2 beta safestrap but no official build and very few ROMs.
If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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Completely agree.
Development is essentially dead on the S3 if you are on 4.4. Safestrap isn't even an attractive option because you can't run a rom without the 4.4 stock kernel. You have to rely on only touchwiz roms running kitkat only. Not too many developers are going to be around who would develop such a rom. This is also unique to the Verizon variant, which makes it particularly difficult for other developers from different variants trying to help out. Extremely annoying.
There are huge bounty threads for the S5 and S4 threads trying to get bootloader unlocked. I guarantee that capable devs are trying everything they can, but bootloader hacking is expensive and difficult as a lot of hardware or low level exploits can irreversibly hard brick a phone. Devs usually only have one phone, and simply can't afford to guess on the correct exploit to prevent an irreversible brick.
For example, the devs who unlocked the bootloader on the HTC m8 said they burnt through some phones in order to get the bootloader unlocked. They never said exactly how many phones, but I certainly believe them. To pay for the cost of the devices, they are charging $25 per device for their sunshine app to unlock the bootloader . You could agree with this approach or not, but considering how expensive and dangerous the process is I think the cost is completely justified. Plus it keeps them making exploits continuously throughout the life of the device.
I think a lot of people just think that these exploits aren't as dangerous as they actually are. As a comparison, achieving root has way less of a chance of bricking a device so 1 phone per developer is enough. It's simply looking for a way to inject a file in the system partition, and if it fails then nothing happens. Unlocking a bootloader is a completely different story, and something that takes an immense amount of research and understanding before an unlocking is even attempted. If you miss with a bootloader exploit, then that phone is gone, JTAG won't even fix it.
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Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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bobloblaw1 said:
Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
astonmartin214 said:
wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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okay my mistake thought it was locked also thank you for clearing that up
well now I think there could be light at the end of the tunnel for 4.4.2 BL unlocking
BadUsername said:
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
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landshark68 said:
#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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Haha, exact same with me. I unlocked my bootloader and I'm still running this thing unrooted. I don't see much of a reason to root right now except for titanium backup. These latest batches of phones are pretty awesome.
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