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[Q] Would You Replace It?

Well, I finally received my Transformer 32GB today from Newegg and I must say that I am absolutely in love with it; despite some minor issues. Don't worry, I plan on doing a "first impressions" review shortly.
Anyways, I did notice some light bleed when looking for it and now I can't really seem to get over it. However, I tend to be a bit paranoid about things so I figured I would ask you guys for some advice before just asking for a replacement.
I took these pictures at full brightness in a completely dark room. For some reason, the camera seemed to have reduced the severity of the light bleed a bit (thought it would do the opposite). Basically, one can see light leakage on the bottom (to the right of the logo) and a couple on the middle of the right of the display.
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Would you guys get this replaced if you were me? My main concern is that the replacement yields even more leakage than the original.
PS - The bezel and screen seem to be perfectly aligned. I also have very little creaking near the right bezel.

I have some light bleed too, but only a little in the lower left corner. If mine were as bad as yours, I would replace. Yours is affecting 25% of your screen or more...
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Man, I am having the same problem. Every day I have the dilemma " should I replace it? - but I love it so much and what if the next one is crap"
Lol, tough call.
If you bought it from a good retailer (one that doesn't charge a restocking fee, I say go for the swap, since light bleeds are a sign of a defect)
Unfortunately for me, my retailer was crappy and charges 15% to restock, which means 75$ just to replace the device. Thumbs way down

Mine has bleeding on the left and right side of the screen, but I really only see it when I'm rebooting and the black screen comes on. I have not ran into any issues while using the tablet where I notice the bleeding so I don't really think its that big of a deal unless your watching a dark movie maybe.

Honestly dude, just listen to your common sense. Disregard what I or anybody else on these forums may say to you. The majority of people here lack sense which leads them to constantly complain about minor issues.
Think to yourself first would you have notices this without the help of this forum?
Does the issue harm the performance of the device?
Does it take away from the devices beauty?
Will any of your friends or family notice?
These among other questions are what you should ponder before making a decision...
I can tell you from my experience as being one of the first people to own a Tmobile G1, Mytouch and Sprint Evo 4g as well as an owner of many other devices including laptops, tvs, cars, radios, video game systems, video games, etc etc etc... You can return and exchange all you want but you will never find the PERFECT(Definition:Make (something) completely free from faults or defects) device or product...
Good Luck with your decision!

Wow... thanks for all your comments. I was expecting some "C'mon... another one of these?!" threads.
@gadgetfan: For some reason the blushing on the bottom right and left corners are not visible at all. I think it was some crazy processing that my camera did. Maybe due to the white text on those areas and the angle the pictures were taken. I only really notice the 1"-long bleeds on the bottom and right of the screen.
I ordered mine from Newegg so I know I'm good on getting it replaced. The problem is when will it actually get replaced? And if it does get replaced, will it be worst then the current one?
I was thinking of maybe waiting for it to get back in stock and try to snatch another one and seeing how that one is in comparison, then returning the worst of the two. Do you think these retailers would actually notice which is which inside the box?!

akarol said:
Do you think these retailers would actually notice which is which inside the box?!
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Isn't there a serial number on the box and on the unit. They should match.

The box isn't an issue as I can send the new box with the older unit in it. I highly doubt they'll be matching serial numbers as they usually send these off to the manufacturer to get refurbished anyways. If they ask, I can always tell them I accidentally swapped them by mistake. Right?!

sadly i have many stuck pixels but thanks for the fixel density they are only seen on a black screen, but BLACK, so i dont care i can live with that, or well sell it over here when they start to sell them here
edit: after using a simple app that shows many different colors, man the stuck pixels are on a black screen, no in every color (i have seen stuck pixels on my psp so i know when the problem its serious).
it doesnt affects me that much i can live with it.
the light bleed its minimal like 5%. low creacks.
in overall im happy

akarol said:
The box isn't an issue as I can send the new box with the older unit in it. I highly doubt they'll be matching serial numbers as they usually send these off to the manufacturer to get refurbished anyways. If they ask, I can always tell them I accidentally swapped them by mistake. Right?!
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Why not just send in the old unit with the old box? I doubt newegg scans the S/N.
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Asadroid said:
sadly i have many stuck pixels but thanks for the fixel density they are only seen on a black screen, but BLACK, so i dont care i can live with that, or well sell it over here when they start to sell them here
edit: after using a simple app that shows many different colors, man the stuck pixels are on a black screen, no in every color (i have seen stuck pixels on my psp so i know when the problem its serious).
it doesnt affects me that much i can live with it.
the light bleed its minimal like 5%. low creacks.
in overall im happy
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Stuck/dead pixels drive me crazy. Once I see them it's as if I ALWAYS notice them. I replaced my 21.5 inch monitor and my G-Tablet because of one stuck pixel. I figure if I can get a free replacement then I'm going to replace it until I get a "perfect' one.
To the OP, the light bleed looks pretty bad. Personally I'd try to to replace it.

Enectic said:
Stuck/dead pixels drive me crazy. Once I see them it's as if I ALWAYS notice them. I replaced my 21.5 inch monitor and my G-Tablet because of one stuck pixel. I figure if I can get a free replacement then I'm going to replace it until I get a "perfect' one.
To the OP, the light bleed looks pretty bad. Personally I'd try to to replace it.
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well since i dont see a dead pixel outside of a black screen i dont care, and my eyes hurts after going trough a RGB series of colors @[email protected] testing if i could see them
and im not up to pay the cost of the shipping to get a replacemnet

I wouldn't think twice about replacing it if I found a single stuck pixel on anything I own. Bleeds are hit or miss as some are way less noticeable than others.
Can anyone here honestly say that their TF is completely free of any light bleeds? If so, can they prove it?

Not to hijack the thread but this seems related:
I just picked up a 32gig model last night from a local retailer and there's a small (1mm-ish) gap between the bezel and the screen right where the hdmi port is.
There's a little light bleed in that area, which honestly doesn't bother me, but I am worried about dust getting in that gap.
Worthy of a return or am I worrying too much?

I would return it if mine had any gap whatsoever.
BTW, I just ordered one from WalMart and I'll compare it to the one I already have. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

The creak on the bottom right drives me nuts. The rear of the unit actually flexes around that area. Just doesn't feel very good. I also have issues with the touch screen not responding. I was going to make a topic on it, hoping it was just mine, but I guess it's just a transformer thing and I should either deal with it or return it and find something else.

In all my years of being a computer/gadget geek, I just haven't been able to wrap my head around the huge issue people have with light bleed. Just how many people sit in pure darkness everyday just to watch movies? I wish I had enough time to do this just so I could be mad at having light bleed. If the movies filled up the entire screen (some don't) then it should barely be an issue. The only time it's really noticeable is full brightness on a solid black picture.

What does it look like on a non-completely black screen?

akarol said:
I would return it if mine had any gap whatsoever.
BTW, I just ordered one from WalMart and I'll compare it to the one I already have. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
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Thanks for the input. I just wanted another opinion to make sure I wasn't being overly paranoid.
They're sold out again but I'm on the list for an exchange once they get more.

From my experience, I've seen 3 tablets, there is bad light bleed and tolerable light bleed. Soft light bleed is very tolerable and looks like a dull half circle of light, however, I've seen light bleed where it is a sharp bright light which looks like a triangle and completely bugged the hell out of me.
I would definitely return a creaky bezel. My 1st one had it and that is where the worst light bleed was. Pressing that point made the light bleed change. My other 2 had no creaking.
Just a suggestion, watch a dark movie, such as "The Dark Knight" and see if the light bleed bothers you. If not, keep it, otherwise exchange it. I believe movies are where it will be the most bothersome.

[Q] Screen issue? Defective?

Hi all,
So I just got my Transformer this evening and am hoping and praying for no issues.
I am wondering about something when I turn on the unit however already... I cannot tell if this is normal or not.
On the lower part of the welcome screen about maybe a 1/4 way up from the bottom there seems to be a faint light bar/line that goes across from one side to the other in this area.
I cannot tell if this is part of the welcome screen or if this is a flaw. Everything as far as leaks goes and such looks great from all sides but this concerns me. If it's part of the welcome design screen then great! If not I think I obviously have a problem with the screen. I hope this is not the case.
I have attached the best image I could take with crap camera showing the line. I apologize for it not being the best quality.
If anyone can assist I'd truly appreciate it. I don't want to test it on other screens as I wanted to let my Transformer charge completely before getting into it as it states. What is a good amount of time to let it charge to get the most out of my battery?
Thanks again for all help offered.
-tweeker

You can't get a clear idea about light bleed with a background like that. Download a black image from the web and open it from the gallery app, that will give you an almost black screen. Light leak is most noticeable on a black screen with brightness set to max.

PhoenixFx said:
You can't get a clear idea about light bleed with a background like that. Download a black image from the web and open it from the gallery app, that will give you an almost black screen. Light leak is most noticeable on a black screen with brightness set to max.
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What about the streak of light that is going through the Android character is what I am referring to?
It's definitely not extremely blatant on this photo but you can certainly see it.

tweeker404 said:
What about the streak of light that is going through the Android character is what I am referring to?
It's definitely not extremely blatant on this photo but you can certainly see it.
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That's the background ... if there is a problem it will most likely be at the most extreme edges, it almost looks like there might be some on the bottom but that could be camera angle.
You already opened the box and took off the plastic, going past the welcome screen isn'tgoing to affect return policy or anything. Even if it did you can do a full wipe and be back to that screen in minutes.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

degeneration said:
That's the background ... if there is a problem it will most likely be at the most extreme edges, it almost looks like there might be some on the bottom but that could be camera angle.
You already opened the box and took off the plastic, going past the welcome screen isn'tgoing to affect return policy or anything. Even if it did you can do a full wipe and be back to that screen in minutes.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
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Great thanks a lot! Yes you are right there is some at the bottom.
What you see is correct... Are there ones out there that do not have this bleeding at the bottom?
Thanks.

tweeker404 said:
Great thanks a lot! Yes you are right there is some at the bottom.
What you see is correct... Are there ones out there that do not have this bleeding at the bottom?
Thanks.
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Tough question. Probably? I think all have it to some degree, but like my new one I have to put a blanket over my head, turn the screen all black, and turn the brightness all the way up to notice it. If you don't notice it or it doesn't bother you it is just an aesthetic problem that shouldn't ever get worse (or better). If it does and you can exchange it I would recommend doing that instead of sending it to Asus. There are plenty of horror stories about people sending it for repair.
However I would wait until you only have a week left to send it back to see if you forget about it. Some people have gone through nearly a dozen returns looking for a perfect one. I mean we deserve to get one without flaws, but sadly these screens are so prone to bleed that it seems to make some people just give up on tablets...
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degeneration said:
Tough question. Probably? I think all have it to some degree, but like my new one I have to put a blanket over my head, turn the screen all black, and turn the brightness all the way up to notice it. If you don't notice it or it doesn't bother you it is just an aesthetic problem that shouldn't ever get worse (or better). If it does and you can exchange it I would recommend doing that instead of sending it to Asus. There are plenty of horror stories about people sending it for repair.
However I would wait until you only have a week left to send it back to see if you forget about it. Some people have gone through nearly a dozen returns looking for a perfect one. I mean we deserve to get one without flaws, but sadly these screens are so prone to bleed that it seems to make some people just give up on tablets...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
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Yeah I can understand that. That is a great answer.
I noticed there is also noticable bleed on the left side as well near the bottom as well as the bleed noticed on the bottom all closer to the center and left.
Probably want to try out another one with there being more than just a little at the bottom. What do you think degen?
Thanks for your response.

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Yeah I can understand that. That is a great answer.
I noticed there is also noticable bleed on the left side as well near the bottom as well as the bleed noticed on the bottom all closer to the center and left.
Probably want to try out another one with there being more than just a little at the bottom. What do you think degen?
Thanks for your response.
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Like I mentioned I am on my second one, although I also had a blotch in the middle of my screen. If it bothers you now there's a good chance it always will. Sadly it's a roll of the dice. However having got mine from Amazon I figured I would rather return it then just regret it. Lightbleed SHOULDN'T exist but sadly you may have to settle with it to some degree but not a lot of it. If it bugs you while warching movies, playing games, or web browsing I would try exhanging it. Make sure to try it at night if you aren't sure. That's when it will be the most noticeable.
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degeneration said:
Like I mentioned I am on my second one, although I also had a blotch in the middle of my screen. If it bothers you now there's a good chance it always will. Sadly it's a roll of the dice. However having got mine from Amazon I figured I would rather return it then just regret it. Lightbleed SHOULDN'T exist but sadly you may have to settle with it to some degree but not a lot of it. If it bugs you while warching movies, playing games, or web browsing I would try exhanging it. Make sure to try it at night if you aren't sure. That's when it will be the most noticeable.
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Thanks a lot Degen. I appreciate your help.

[Q] So are we all keeping our A700, or are we sending them back to Amazon?

I have read a lot about the heat and reboots. And that amazon suspended selling for a few days, and now they are 50 bucks cheaper than when I initially ordered it.
So it is a bust? Will a new custom ROM help it? Or are we all thinking of sending them back?

I've had contact with Acer and they state that the tablet should not randomly reboot while having it in your hand. I'm sending my tablet to Acer for them to have a look at it. Also, my screen seems to have ajusted a little because of the heat. When booting, the brightness is going to 100% and with the black background (which is normal), you can see some kind of glowish corner on the bottom right. When pressing softly on the back, you can see it getting slightly more glowish (this happens also on the upper left corner, but that's normal I guess. Didn't happen on the other corners though..?). It's not that noticable, but it looks like something is pushing the display a little and when pushing the back softly strengthened it. You can't see it when using the tablet normally, neither will you see it very well in daylight, but still it concerns me. I want a replacement tablet, not a "we (may) have fixed your tablet (and the glow is still there)"..
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The ambient light is on the upper left is just a reflection. The bottom right is certainly not. This photo was taken just after the tablet rebooted itself (playing games for an hour whilst charging (just to test if it would crash. It took a while this time).

The price is still the same as before on Amazon as far as i can tell. While the heat issue does suck i guess you have to make the choice if you need to return it. If its really that bad for you then you should return it and go with the Asus. I don't know what I'm doing at this point, still have some time to decide.

I'm really bummed to say it, but I'm reluctantly throwing in the towel and will be returning the A700 this coming week.
My decision came down to heat. While it's "usable" now, excessive heat over time will cause greater wear & tear on the base components. I don't want to take on that risk over time, especially since I'm much more of a power user.

Beknatok said:
I'm really bummed to say it, but I'm reluctantly throwing in the towel and will be returning the A700 this coming week.
My decision came down to heat. While it's "usable" now, excessive heat over time will cause greater wear & tear on the base components. I don't want to take on that risk over time, especially since I'm much more of a power user.
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Yeah, I am going to send mine back as well. Probably July 2nd is when I will send it back.
I will miss not having a tab until the Infinity comes out, but it seems that buying the Infinity is the best choice for me...

i bought mine at microcenter went 110 miles one way to get it and this thing is having issues keeping up with typing using google voice, comcast tv doesn't work, it gets hot as hell when watching 1080p videos and the response on the touchscreen sucks you gotta tap it pretty hard to get it to respond 80% of the time and on top of that microcenter is no longer selling it.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0393117
so i am done.

It seemed odd from the start the 700 was priced the same as the 510.

ya, well you would a thought they'd been smart and fixed it.
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TomONeill said:
I've had contact with Acer and they state that the tablet should not randomly reboot while having it in your hand. I'm sending my tablet to Acer for them to have a look at it. Also, my screen seems to have ajusted a little because of the heat. When booting, the brightness is going to 100% and with the black background (which is normal), you can see some kind of glowish corner on the bottom right. When pressing softly on the back, you can see it getting slightly more glowish (this happens also on the upper left corner, but that's normal I guess. Didn't happen on the other corners though..?). It's not that noticable, but it looks like something is pushing the display a little and when pushing the back softly strengthened it. You can't see it when using the tablet normally, neither will you see it very well in daylight, but still it concerns me. I want a replacement tablet, not a "we (may) have fixed your tablet (and the glow is still there)"..
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The ambient light is on the upper left is just a reflection. The bottom right is certainly not. This photo was taken just after the tablet rebooted itself (playing games for an hour whilst charging (just to test if it would crash. It took a while this time).
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my tablet also has that glow at the bottom right where it gets hot and it also has bubbles in that area when you press on the screen.

Well, it sure looks like I will be without a tab for a bit..
Are we all going to shoot for the Asus Infinity? I sure am.

Yes, only if the GPS works somewhat ^_^

Well, I created my Return label to amazon.
I am going to just get my money back and wait for the infinity and order that...I hope there is no massive shortage....It will suck not having a tab for awhile. I absolutely have become big time dependent on having one.

acdcking12345 said:
Well, it sure looks like I will be without a tab for a bit..
Are we all going to shoot for the Asus Infinity? I sure am.
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Already placed a preorder for the TF700 & this is going back the 2nd or 3rd.
Such is the life of the early adopter.
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well,
.. i also have some heat issues on my a700, but i still find it a very interesting Tab .. i don't have all of the described software issues or crushes (till now .. lol) .. so .. i'm going to keep mine
.. i don't know if all the other (still to come) tabs will be better or worse, but i learned one thing .. from that what it is rumored and anounced before the first selling day, you can believe just the half .. and for the second, don't trust the 'unboxing' and 'first hands on' youtube vids .. they just show the 'ideal' and 'virgin' conditions of a product, where everything is 'fast and smooth' .. the flaws and litlle drawbacks are seen after two or three weeks of use, and that's a realistic time to say something valueble about a product ..
.. anyway .. i find that the a700 is a shot worth, so as allready sayed, i'm keeping mine and i will continue to heavyly 'missuse' it on dayly bases .. that's how (we all) will find out what it can take, or not .. and for how long ..

I am keeping mine, apart from some warmth I am completely happy with it. The ONLY other thing out there comparable would be the iPad, or the upcoming Asus TF700, but I don't like Apple and don't really want to go that route, besides you have no expandable memory, the restrictive iOS, no HDMI or USB ports, and the cheapest you can get one is 500 bucks (16 GB version), and I had an Asus TF300 and it felt cheaply built and had it's own heat and backlight bleeding issues. There is a member on here in Switzerland who actually has a TF700 in hand (they are out there), and he said it feels similarly cheaply built, flexes/gives a lot and just don't live up to the hype Asus is trying to build, I am not about to pay 500 bucks for that, I want it to feel solid, not like an East German Trabant or Yugoslav Yugo.
So, while it may not be pefect I think it's probably one of the best out there, the screen on it is AMAZING, and Acer is pretty good about releasing updates to fix issues, so I think it will only improve with time. The build quality on the Acer's is far better than Asus's, Asus's just feel cheap and plastic, not at all what I would expect for a "premium" tablet. I will definitely be keeping track of the mid July release of the Asus TF700 in the US, but so far it doesn't sound like it's worth my money, besides $450 is already pushing it for a tablet as far as I'm concerned, If you are going to spend more than that you might as well get a full featured laptop. I wish you all the best of luck, but I bet my A700 only gets better with age
I do hope more buy and keep them, we need some developers working on it, if everybody leaves, well, it kinda throws a kink in the hose for the rest of us staying with a A700.
Edit-I actually had an A510, I returned it for the Asus TF300, but then sent that back and came back to Acer with the Acer A700, so at least for me the Asus Tablets are less than impressive. The iPad, TF300, A700, etc, all have issues, backlight bleeding, cheap build, heat, wifi dropping, the list goes on, maybe someday they'll come up with one without major issues, but so far it seems to be just the way it is.
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"The Good:
The Pad itself has phenomenal build quality. Extremely solid - better than the Prime, even (more below).
What happens when you take a fast CPU and fast RAM, and make both even faster? Speed. Demon.
The tablet is finally backward-compatible, in this case with the TF201 dock. (Or the TF201's dock is forward-compatible. However you want to look at it.)
Asus's customizations are relatively few and tasteful. Most of the widgets are nice and customizations to the control panel are helpful - especially the control toggles and power modes.
The company cut no corners with the screen, and it shows; it's just plain beautiful. It's super crisp with no discernable pixels or lines, and produces accurate, gorgeous colors. It's very, very reminiscent of the best-in-class display on the HTC One X, just bigger.
The Bad:
The screen produces so much glare it's almost a mirror, and it borderline actively seeks out smudge marks.
The dock's build quality isn't exactly "bad," but it does feel a little chintzy.
Speaking of the dock, it doesn't seem to... dock... reliably. There were numerous times where it just spontaneously lost connection, then regained connection a few seconds later.
For some reason, it won't recognize my microSDXC card, though the TF201 and TF300 both do. Weird.
My unit shipped without the Play Store installed. That's a pretty major oopsie, though thankfully it only took a reset in order to fix it. From what I understand, mine was the only one with this issue, but I'd be remiss not to mention it.
This is the fourth Transformer in a row in which they still haven't addressed the light bleed.
This is the fourth Transformer in a row in which they still haven't addressed the ultra-sensitive, ultra-disruptive trackpad that doesn't recognize and ignore palm brushes.
Much more unforgivably, it's the third Transformer in a row in which they put the speaker on the wrong side and pointed it the wrong way for good measure."
Full review here-
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/25/asus-transformer-infinity-wifi-review/
So, while it may be better than the A700 in some areas, it's worse in others. If you're expecting perfection in the TF700, I'm afraid you won't find it.
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TomONeill said:
I've had contact with Acer and they state that the tablet should not randomly reboot while having it in your hand. I'm sending my tablet to Acer for them to have a look at it. Also, my screen seems to have ajusted a little because of the heat. When booting, the brightness is going to 100% and with the black background (which is normal), you can see some kind of glowish corner on the bottom right. When pressing softly on the back, you can see it getting slightly more glowish (this happens also on the upper left corner, but that's normal I guess. Didn't happen on the other corners though..?). It's not that noticable, but it looks like something is pushing the display a little and when pushing the back softly strengthened it. You can't see it when using the tablet normally, neither will you see it very well in daylight, but still it concerns me. I want a replacement tablet, not a "we (may) have fixed your tablet (and the glow is still there)"..
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Check out this photo:
The ambient light is on the upper left is just a reflection. The bottom right is certainly not. This photo was taken just after the tablet rebooted itself (playing games for an hour whilst charging (just to test if it would crash. It took a while this time).
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You are going to get as much, maybe more light bleed on the TF700, see the review link above.

The Asus Infinity is in my country expansive (WiFi 64 GB = $785!!), so that's not going to be it for me. I've been lucky with the $545 I spent on this device. It was a few days later $595.
I'm returning it for repair. Actually, I want another one which hasn't got that heat and crash problem + backlight bleeding. I really like the tablet and I am willing to keep it, if those 2 problems mentioned before don't show up on my replacement tablet (if I'm getting one). Again, Acer is willing to test my tablet and I hope so that they're going to send me a brand new one.

are some of you guys thinking that ACER might possibly release a Software update to resolve some of these issues?

I am, but the heat issue is most of the times an hardware problem. Though, it could have been a software issue, but since Acer is willing to take the tablet back for research (because of the crashing when playing a game whilst charging and holding the tablet in hand), it doesn't look like it is a software issue. The backlight bleeding is caused by the battery swelling up or something? Anyways, something is pushing the back of the display. Also a hardware issue. Though I seem to be (with one exeption) the only one who has the backlight bleeding as far as I know. Acer said (anyways, that's what I read) to roll out an update which will solve the lag problem (lag as in full HD video, reading pdfs, browsing etc.).

I am really confused, when i read a negative comment i hate my device and want to sell it,however when i read positive comment i change my mind, get happy and want to keep it. And are we really returning our devices to buy an unknown device(not released)? Maybe it is worse and full of problems. Also, a big prove is that asus is now for software and hardware problems, there system mostly crash and force close to reach weak signals in both wifi and gps. Btw i am not facing any problems only slight heat. Is it worth the return, and wait all over again? I am not really sure. I think we should wait till acer release software update maybe it will cure some bugs. What do you think, i should make my decision but till now i am swinging between both tablets? I read on asus transformer prime and tf300 flashing screens bright spots, where these bugs fixed or not in infinity

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I am really confused, when i read a negative comment i hate my device and want to sell it,however when i read positive comment i change my mind, get happy and want to keep it. And are we really returning our devices to buy an unknown device(not released)? Maybe it is worse and full of problems. Also, a big prove is that asus is now for software and hardware problems, there system mostly crash and force close to reach weak signals in both wifi and gps. Btw i am not facing any problems only slight heat. Is it worth the return, and wait all over again? I am not really sure. I think we should wait till acer release software update maybe it will cure some bugs. What do you think, i should make my decision but till now i am swinging between both tablets? I read on asus transformer prime and tf300 flashing screens bright spots, where these bugs fixed or not in infinity
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I have had the Asus TF101 and TF 201.
The 101 was fine...But had a lot of lag issues. The 201 had massive backlight issues. It was not impressive at all.
The Acer A700 has a fantastic screen. Best that I have ever seen. And only mild heat. I am doing exactly what you are doing. Back and forth. I guess Ill sleep on it tonight and go from there..
Some others are correct. Asus has had their issues with hardware as well..

@the above 2 posts. It sounds like you both have A700s without the crash issue. If I were you I would definitely keep the tablet. Mild heat is normal and if it doesn't get worrying hot and it doesn't crash , you could to look to other negative comments or just be happy with the tab

[PSA] TF700T Light Leakage

No tablet I have had has had light leakage. Between myself and family members, I have had time with the Acer A500, the iPad 2, the iPad 3, the TF300, the TF700, and more, and not even to mention the number of phones and other electronics I have used. I have never had a device with light leakage until I purchased the TF700. I swapped a broken A500 for the TF300 (under the best buy protection plan) and used that for a bit, until I got the TF700T 64GB Gray Model and my wife took over the TF300 and got a dock for it. The first TF700 had light leakage, and it got worse over time, earlier tonight the Best Buy finally got some 32gb models in, and my wife swapped my TF700T out for me. The first exchanged model still had light leakage, and the second exchange model as well.
Ive spent the last day or so researching light leakage, particularly on the TF700T. While I am no stranger to light leakage, I wanted to see if there was anything unique or common about it with the TF700T. Below, I have included a graphic that I hope helps to sum up the culmination of my research.
Yes, I know there is at least one other post about this matter, but this post is more for information purposes and not query purposes.
If you have light leakage on your device, I encourage you to report it here, and report where on the device your light leakage is occurring. That was we can update the graphic as needed, and help keep this information post as information as possible.
Thank You.
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Mine has it, but really only noticeable during start up. Not really a psa, known issue. No point for the thread
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This may be just an isolated problem

I used to think that it was an isolated issue, until I started looking around, finding many reports for transformer models TF201 and TF700. Not to mention that in the images posted and the reports given, the leakage occurs at some of the same common locations.
I have had three of the TF700Ts that had light leakage. I would LOVE to find one that does not have light leakage, but it seems implausible. At this point, I may swap out for a galaxy note, but I do like the higher resolution.
Im glad to see that some people are not having this issue, but I wanted to post something for those that are, and to help consolidate the information that I found in many threads. I would like to hope that threads like this would be started for known issues, and not left to just random posts within random threads. Before I purchased my TF700T I would have LOVED it is someone posted more about known issues. Instead, all I read was great reviews, and now I am stuck going to and from the store trying to swap out my device for one that has no light leakage. Wasting gas and time and apparently annoying the hell out of the best buy employees.

It would definitely not help to describe what light leakage is...

Question: Is there any proper way to test for light bleed? I tried using the "Screen Test" app suggested in the graphic and my light bleed doesn't occur. However, I know I have a little during startup so I know it's there but it goes away so quickly I'm not able to get a good look as to the extent.

For those who want to complain about there even being a post with info on this matter, please feel free not to reply or comment. This post does not benefit from irrelevant and unhelpful replies. This post does not concern you. This post is for those of us who spent 400-600 bucks on a new tablet and have a "known issue" that should not be occurring on a 400-600 dollar device.
As for testing for light bleed. Keep in mind that light bleed is not an issue that will damage your device, but is more of a symptom of poor quality or potential other issues. However, minor light bleed is nothing to be concerned about. If you only notice it during boot, and no other time, than I would not be concerned with it. There are times that my light bleed is more prominent as well. Setting a black background and then checking it is also a good way to look at it. The best way is to get nothing but a black background, or as close to it as you can, and then being in as dark a room as possible.and turn brightness up as much as possible. This will help to clearly pinpoint bleed areas. Some people have also been known to use long exposure on a camera to capture the bleed.
For a little bleed, its really about how annoying it is and rather you care. However, too much light bleed, or bleed that is not around the edges, can be more indicative of a defective screen.

I also have light bleed in the same "Hotspots" that you've illustrated. Light bleed drives me nuts, but in this case, it's really only noticeable at boot-up when they set the brightness to full. It's not noticeable under normal use, unless you are *really* looking for and the brightness is set very high.
To be honest, if you don't notice it, there really is no need to "go looking for it" by turning up the brightness, sitting in a dark room with a black screen - who in the hell would normally do that!? Light bleed is a common issue on all sorts of devices and it is certainly not an Asus-only issue. Yes, even some the infamous iPads have light bleed.
Maybe you've been lucky as not *every* devices will have it, but the majority will have some amount of light bleed. As long as it doesn't bother you, don't worry about it! Obviously, if it's bad enough that you constantly see it (or it's in the middle of the screen or something like that, which is rare), then by all means exchange it, but I don't think we need to have everyone going through these stupid "try to find it" tests.
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Post pictures of your light bleed..so we can compare

jtrosky said:
I also have light bleed in the same "Hotspots" that you've illustrated. Light bleed drives me nuts, but in this case, it's really only noticeable at boot-up when they set the brightness to full. It's not noticeable under normal use, unless you are *really* looking for and the brightness is set very high.
To be honest, if you don't notice it, there really is no need to "go looking for it" by turning up the brightness, sitting in a dark room with a black screen - who in the hell would normally do that!? Light bleed is a common issue on all sorts of devices and it is certainly not an Asus-only issue. Yes, even some the infamous iPads have light bleed.
Maybe you've been lucky as not *every* devices will have it, but the majority will have some amount of light bleed. As long as it doesn't bother you, don't worry about it! Obviously, if it's bad enough that you constantly see it (or it's in the middle of the screen or something like that, which is rare), then by all means exchange it, but I don't think we need to have everyone going through these stupid "try to find it" tests.
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This is not meant as a witch hunt for light bleed. This is mainly to identify the details of the known issues, to inform the consumer. I never knew about this light bleed issue when I was reading reviews, but shortly after discovering the very noticeable light bleed issue on my device, I started seeing TONS of information coming from people having similar experiences.
The common issue with these posts has been the query as to whether this was normal or not? Should it be returned or exchanged? Why is it happening? Will it cause problems in the future? etc
I agree that we should not be sitting around trying to nitpick every pixel, but some people want to do that. It is up to the user. Not to mention that people should be aware of when there may be issues with their 400-600 dollar device. Though, part of the initial information was for people to understand that many of the devices suffer from some degree of light bleed. That way people are not freaking out, as I have been seeing them do on other posts and forums, when they see something small.

i have 2 infinities, i have one and my dad another, I have a very very tiny leak, maybe smaller then the size of the white part of your nail, its right above the bottom right corner and only visible at boot. My mom has an ipad that has much much more light bleed and my sister a toshiba thrive that seems to have bled out light everywhere. Toshiba is terrible, what a crappy tablet

Leakage as well.
I purchased a TF700 Grey 64GB from best buy. I had a LOT of bleed in mine. The lower left corner where the back and home buttons are was very bad. It was a large area about 2 x 2 inch triangle in that whole corner. There was 5 other quite noticable spots around the rest of the picture. 2 on top, one on the right and one on the bottom right corner (not nearly as bad as the lower left). So mine actually had a lot of bleed.
Now its wasnt overly noticeable in normal use, but when I fired up videos / movies and it got to darker scenes the lower left corner really stood out.
I just yesterday exchanged my TF700 for a TF300. The 300 has some very small bleed spots, but they arent nearly as bad as all the bleed I had on the 700. I did the exchange (party because of the bad bleed) and partly because I felt the 700 was fairly buggy in terms of software. Often sluggish on many apps. The 300 I feel is a better performer atm. Most apps run better / smoother for me. However I must admit that I do miss the higher resolution of the 700 screen. Oh almost forgot - a big deal was the battery life was terrible. Watching a video especially, even just browsing and jumping apps my battery drained FAST. I was only getting 4-5 hours. I did the full charge cycle as directed too.
My vote is that I like the performance of apps and general use better on the 300. However the extra res on the 700 was nice (minus the light bleed). Everyone says the software is supposed to get better, but the big problem is you never know just how long that can take. Can be anywhere from a month or two to six months to a year before the 700 will be fully optimized.
I feel very conflicted, lol. I want a 700, but the 300 is better atm.

I just received my new Asus TF700,and i see a lot of light bleed, this is my 3rd TF700 and I'm getting sick of these little minor details that Asus couldhave fix.
First one light bleed
Second one games flickering
3rd one light bleed...
What should i do?
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dmoney94 said:
I just received my new Asus TF700,and i see a lot of light bleed, this is my 3rd TF700 and I'm getting sick of these little minor details that Asus couldhave fix.
First one light bleed
Second one games flickering
3rd one light bleed...
What should i do?
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Are all your purchases from the same store?
Personally I'd give up and buy something different.

I no longer have my TF700. Havent had it for a while. Have the note 10.1 now. Absolutely LOVE it. Had a little bit of mild light leakage on one or two models, but its great now. However, I figured I should post the response I got back from ASUS about light leakage. Took them a while, and it is pretty bland and what you would expect to receive back. .... so nothing too exciting.
Good morning Mr. {EDITED},
I do apologize for the condition you have seen, regarding our tablets. At times, there can be production shipments that do have the same issues, since they were all manufacturered at the same time, causing defects such as this, to be evident. I want to assure you that this isn't the overall quality of our products, and if this was to happen after purchase, it would be rectified via repair, or replacement, directly from us.
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If there are any further questions or concerns you may have, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Craig Brown
Customer Service / Level 3 Technician
ASUSTek Computer Inc

I have light bleed in the same locations as the OP pointed out. Its especially evident because its mostly along the Android black status bar on the bottom. Sometimes I find myself rotating my tablet 180 degrees just so that its not as visible.

There isn't an option for me.
I get really bad light bleed when I turn on my tablet sometimes.
Then it fades away in a few seconds. I don't mean that I get used to it, it legitimately fades away. I have no idea how this is even possible.

Keion said:
There isn't an option for me.
I get really bad light bleed when I turn on my tablet sometimes.
Then it fades away in a few seconds. I don't mean that I get used to it, it legitimately fades away. I have no idea how this is even possible.
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It's possible because during start-up the screen is at 100% brightness and then dims to what your settings are. Want to see it come back? Turn your brightness to 100%, hit the Super IPS button for good measure, and then go to your apps menu and look around the edges.

stray_pube said:
It's possible because during start-up the screen is at 100% brightness and then dims to what your settings are. Want to see it come back? Turn your brightness to 100%, hit the Super IPS button for good measure, and then go to your apps menu and look around the edges.
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Definitely not.
This happens even when I set the brightness to a consistent level (no auto tuning). It happens no matter what brightness I set it to.
When I turn it on (from sleep mode), it has bad light bleed but then it fades away after leaving it on for about 20 seconds.

Just got mine in today. The initial boot showed what I would call some pretty significant leakage in the "hotspots" you showed, but once it got to the setup screen only one spot is barely noticeable. With the brightness almost halfway up it's still barely noticeable with normal use, is that considered "minor?" I haven't tried watching any videos yet so I don't know how annoying it will be with black bars at the bottom.
I'll try to take a picture of it, but so far I'm a bit relieved compared to what you first see when it boots up. That looked pretty bad.
EDIT: Here is a picture that doesn't necessarily even show what I see. The bleed in the upper left isn't near as bad as my eyes see, but the bottom is fairly close I think.
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Think UV light will fix your OnePlus One yellow band completely? Think again...

Received my OnePlus One yesterday and I have to say I am completely head over heels in love with it.
But..... I'm OCD when it comes to my electronics and of course mine had to come with the nasty yellow banding at the bottom.
I'm thinking I might have gotten a customer's return which is weird because it was completely sealed, I had to open it by pulling the threaded tab just like in all the unboxing videos. When I went into gallery, there were about 100+ personal pictures of some random dude and his family, a bunch of downloaded crap, ringtones, other 3rd party browsers, Amazon apps, ect. Hell I even got some full length movies on there, Transformers and a bootleg cam'd version of Edge of Tomorrow. :laugh:
My guess is that OnePlus is putting customers returns into new packages and sending them out without even fully wiping them correctly. My unit looked like it was never touched, all the screen sticker ect. wow...just wow.
Anyways back to the yellow band, so I followed the advice of people all over the forums to use UV light to try and fix the issue. Well, good thing my mother in law owns a nail salon, I asked if I could take one home for a night. Took it out to the garage and went to work...
On the positive side it actually does help....a little. From a scale of 1-10, 10 being very yellow at the bottom and 1 being completely white at the top, under the UV light for 10 minutes, the yellow was reduced to I'd say a 7.
Bad news is that it doesn't improve any further after that, I put it in there for another 10 minutes and it didn't make a difference. Went crazy and left it in there for 45 minutes, still no improvement. Don't know if the UV damaged my digitizer but touch sensitivity seems to be degraded. Doesn't register my touches as nicely as before...
So there you have it, I left it in a professional nail salon UV machine for about an hour, way more than the recommended 15 minutes, it improved it a little bit but seemed to have messed with the touch sensitivity of the device.
Use UV at your own risk, I tried it and it helped but didn't fix it completely. I love the device too much so I'll be ordering another one when I get a chance.
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Another thing during work today I was experimenting with it and noticed if you apply light heat from a heat gun (lowest setting) the yellow COMPLETELY disappears. Unfortunately when it starts cooling down the yellow comes back.

Dan37tz said:
Another thing during work today I was experimenting with it and noticed if you apply light heat from a heat gun (lowest setting) the yellow COMPLETELY disappears. Unfortunately when it starts cooling down the yellow comes back.
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I left my OnePlus in the sun on the first morning after I got it. I put it in the morning sun while I got ready for work and made breakfast. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being beyond unacceptable the phone started as a "5". I could definitely see it but it was clearly a "I'd be the only one to notice" amount of yellow. After about 1 hour of direct morning sun on a 75 degree morning it's a "1" now. Just a slightest of slight hints of yellow that may be the warm calibration of the phone.
That's my experience with the whole mess.

Dan37tz said:
Received my OnePlus One yesterday and I have to say I am completely head over heels in love with it.
But..... I'm OCD when it comes to my electronics and of course mine had to come with the nasty yellow banding at the bottom.
I'm thinking I might have gotten a customer's return which is weird because it was completely sealed, I had to open it by pulling the threaded tab just like in all the unboxing videos. When I went into gallery, there were about 100+ personal pictures of some random dude and his family, a bunch of downloaded crap, ringtones, other 3rd party browsers, Amazon apps, ect. Hell I even got some full length movies on there, Transformers and a bootleg cam'd version of Edge of Tomorrow. :laugh:
My guess is that OnePlus is putting customers returns into new packages and sending them out without even fully wiping them correctly. My unit looked like it was never touched, all the screen sticker ect. wow...just wow.
Anyways back to the yellow band, so I followed the advice of people all over the forums to use UV light to try and fix the issue. Well, good thing my mother in law owns a nail salon, I asked if I could take one home for a night. Took it out to the garage and went to work...
On the positive side it actually does help....a little. From a scale of 1-10, 10 being very yellow at the bottom and 1 being completely white at the top, under the UV light for 10 minutes, the yellow was reduced to I'd say a 7.
Bad news is that it doesn't improve any further after that, I put it in there for another 10 minutes and it didn't make a difference. Went crazy and left it in there for 45 minutes, still no improvement. Don't know if the UV damaged my digitizer but touch sensitivity seems to be degraded. Doesn't register my touches as nicely as before...
So there you have it, I left it in a professional nail salon UV machine for about an hour, way more than the recommended 15 minutes, it improved it a little bit but seemed to have messed with the touch sensitivity of the device.
Use UV at your own risk, I tried it and it helped but didn't fix it completely. I love the device too much so I'll be ordering another one when I get a chance.
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That's insane man, though not very surprising of OnePlus at this point. I guess paying $360 for a device of this caliber will numb any indignation. Did you buy it directly from OnePlus using an invite? What is the supposed build date of your phone? Where did it ship to you from? Everything seemed perfectly new when I got mine, the only thing that I thought was odd was the lack of any documentation, you know like a user guide, warranty, warnings etc. Did you get any?
As far as the yellowing goes, I feel that it is slowly fading away, and I haven't even exposed it to any California sunshine or heat, I've mostly used it in air conditioned areas.

I got mine without any defects, but I don't think keeping it under UV light for an hour would do good to any phone.
Why not root it and tweak RGB values with trickster to at least make it unnoticeable?
People bashing everyone but themselves as always.

latenightchameleon said:
I got mine without any defects, but I don't think keeping it under UV light for an hour would do good to any phone.
Why not root it and tweak RGB values with trickster to at least make it unnoticeable?
People bashing everyone but themselves as always.
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There is no need to use mods to adjust the RGB values on this device. You can do it with the stock ROM.
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mhannigan said:
There is no need to use mods to adjust the RGB values on this device. You can do it with the stock ROM.
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You can only control Hue, Saturation, Contrast, Intensity with the stock ROM. You cannot adjust RGB values, you'll need a custom kernel with this commit in order to adjust the RGB and I'm sure later down the line, there'll be gamma controls similar to the N5 on the OPO

I don't understand this yellow band madness.
If it will really go away just by exposing the phone to sunlight, well, just use the phone normally and it will go away soon or later.
I call this thing corksniffing, i know i come from guitar forums and we like this term over there.
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I cant believe they sent a used phone. Thats rediculious.
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DuckMcQUack said:
I don't understand this yellow band madness.
If it will really go away just by exposing the phone to sunlight, well, just use the phone normally and it will go away soon or later.
I call this thing corksniffing, i know i come from guitar forums and we like this term over there.
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I dont understand it either. Its more apparent in some phones than others. Unfortunately for me I can't use my one plus in this way. Never had to with any other phone, why should I now?
OP did you get a used phone and ordered with an invite from oneplus.net?
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selayan said:
I dont understand it either. Its more apparent in some phones than others. Unfortunately for me I can't use my one plus in this way. Never had to with any other phone, why should I now?
OP did you get a used phone and ordered with an invite from oneplus.net?
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Yes I ordered it directly from oneplus.net, I purchased the invite on eBay. Paid $100 for the invite... I know... but I just had zero patience and had to have it NOW! I felt like Veruca from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. :laugh:
So all in total I paid about $469.xx, but even at that price if seems like a steal. Paid almost $700 for my GS5 which feels like junk compared to this bad boy.
It's too bad about the hardcore yellow band at the bottom of mine, I think I found the perfect phone. The battery life on this thing is R-E-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S! I swear it doesn't want to die.

That sucks it was a used one. To make it worse I would be livid paying over retail for it too and having a yellow band.
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i would be returning that immediately
Used phone? are you kidding?

spacemanvt said:
i would be returning that immediately
Used phone? are you kidding?
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Yeah at first I was going to return it but after hearing people had to pay $50+ to ship it back to China and no guarantees of getting back a perfect device, I decided against it.
I'm hoping my case is just an isolated incident, imagine the outrage if OnePlus was really putting customer's returns back in new sealed boxes and sending them out in order to meet demand?

They need to outsource a company to perform repairs and whatnot within the States.

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They need to outsource a company to perform repairs and whatnot within the States.
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They need to do a lot to gain respect. They are lucky people settle with the yellow screens. How can you say it's suppose to be like that? They can control the situation now and censor, deny rma, because of the invite system.
Imagine if the phone was released publicly. Stores would stop buying them because of returns and they would have a lot more people complaining than on the forums about a yellow screen.
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rickyx32 said:
That's insane man, though not very surprising of OnePlus at this point. I guess paying $360 for a device of this caliber will numb any indignation. Did you buy it directly from OnePlus using an invite? What is the supposed build date of your phone? Where did it ship to you from? Everything seemed perfectly new when I got mine, the only thing that I thought was odd was the lack of any documentation, you know like a user guide, warranty, warnings etc. Did you get any?
As far as the yellowing goes, I feel that it is slowly fading away, and I haven't even exposed it to any California sunshine or heat, I've mostly used it in air conditioned areas.
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Build date is July 2, 2014.
No documentation, just phone, charger cable and sim card keychain in the box. Box was completely sealed with plastic outside, does not looked tampered with at all.

Mine came with a dead pixel... I wonder.... Hmmm... I wonder if have a customer return.
Well not dead but its stuck and it can't be fixed since I've tried a million methods!!!!

Dragn4rce said:
Mine came with a dead pixel... I wonder.... Hmmm... I wonder if have a customer return.
Well not dead but its stuck and it can't be fixed since I've tried a million methods!!!!
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They will say one dead pixel is normal. You need 2-3 dead for a replacement.
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Dusty Rhodes said:
I left my OnePlus in the sun on the first morning after I got it. I put it in the morning sun while I got ready for work and made breakfast. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being beyond unacceptable the phone started as a "5". I could definitely see it but it was clearly a "I'd be the only one to notice" amount of yellow. After about 1 hour of direct morning sun on a 75 degree morning it's a "1" now. Just a slightest of slight hints of yellow that may be the warm calibration of the phone.
That's my experience with the whole mess.
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will try this, thanks.