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Many would prefer a real Linux running on their phones or tablets, and that might not be too far away: http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/11/01/ubuntu-versus-android-for-phones-and-tablets/
Now how about a Gnome or KDE desktop environment to go with it?
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Plasma is already being developed for mobile devices. Looks very promising.
Shoot me if I'm wrong, but MeeGo looks great as well.
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I support all open-source variants whether it is android, ubuntu, webos or meego
by the way, someone has tried to port ubuntu 11.04 to touchpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304475
Why limit it to just one distro? What I'd like to have is the ability to run any chosen distro. This would require a bootloader that can load an arbitrary kernel, and all hardware drivers in a form that allows them to be compiled for any arbitrary kernel. This means keeping up with new releases of the kernel and new X versions. Like Nvidia does it for their Geforce graphic cards. Even better would be open-source drivers, but if the vendor keeps up, I don't mind a closed driver for a few hardware pieces.
But that's utopian thinking. And that's why (plus a few other reasons) I'll always prefer a netbook over a tablet. As for phones, with Nokia dropping Meego, I don't see any "true" Linux taking off.
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:-( the 10 post limit strikes again..
sent...ah whatever its on there now..
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I'm running Windows 7 on a Lenovo xxxx something or other.
I'm thinking of getting a laptop for graduation and I'm wondering if there's one that is better than most for doing Android stuff*.
Any suggestions?
*development, flashing, etc etc.
Chrisruns said:
I'm running Windows 7 on a Lenovo xxxx something or other.
I'm thinking of getting a laptop for graduation and I'm wondering if there's one that is better than most for doing Android stuff*.
Any suggestions?
*development, flashing, etc etc.
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If your really want to get serious with Android you WILL need some form of Linux... I use Ubuntu as it has the most user friendly GUI. I just run it in Oracle's VM Virtualbox. I have as of now a MacBook Pro... which I'm planning to sell and buy something more powerful for gaming
I have a Lenovo IdeaPad Y560 w/ 6 GB RAM and quad-core i7 processor. It runs great but it can make a LOT of heat . Windows 7 is my main OS, but I recently added Lubuntu (Linux) for development/android stuff.
In terms of hardware, well I don't feel like keeping up with the latest hardware until it's my turn to buy but try and find the best specs that are within your price range. In terms of software, stay with Windows but for Android stuff I highly recommend a Linux virtual machine: take a look at Virtualbox and Ubuntu.
Linux OpenSuse 12.1 for me.
The End.
Hi,
Has anyone got Linux working natively on this tablet? Or at least the X Window System and/or with a working touchscreen driver?
I would really like to get Linux to run on this tab (any distro).
Thanks!
No news of any?
If only I new how to do it myself...
The question is why?
It hard enough to get all the hardware working with the scaled down Linux of android.
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The question is why?
It hard enough to get all the hardware working with the scaled down Linux of android.
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It shouldn't be that hard to get everything working (Linux, X, ALSA and mtev have been ported to the original Tab and also the S2 too, so it's possible). Alternatively, (search Novo Paladin Tablet running X in Youtube) run X on top of the Android kernel.
Why would it need to be scaled down? The internal drive could be partitioned for /etc, /usr, /var and /home use.
I think you could try the linuxonandroid solution( but I think you already did...), it runs linux natively and only needs a vnc client to access the GUI. I am running the BackTrack and it is quite usable. Not as fast and optimal as it would be without the vnc layer, but I don't think any developer would spent much effort to close that gap.
leodfs said:
I think you could try the linuxonandroid solution( but I think you already did...), it runs linux natively and only needs a vnc client to access the GUI. I am running the BackTrack and it is quite usable. Not as fast and optimal as it would be without the vnc layer, but I don't think any developer would spent much effort to close that gap.
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Oh but we are working on removing the vnc layer, check out our site for more info
why not a more modern OS like say .... Windows 98 or VME ? or Bada?
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why not a more modern OS like say .... Windows 98 or VME ? or Bada?
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windows 98 is more modern than a release of Ubuntu from last year?
The linuxonandroid project is working on native ports of Linux distros, its true you can run the likes of windows 98 but this uses emulation via the likes of qume which means more lag and less use of the actual hardware
Didn't get that either. My guess is that he posted in the wrong thread.
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windows 98 is more modern than a release of Ubuntu from last year?
The linuxonandroid project is working on native ports of Linux distros, its true you can run the likes of windows 98 but this uses emulation via the likes of qume which means more lag and less use of the actual hardware
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Linux is soooooooooo 1960s
originally developed in 1969 by a group of AT&T employees at Bell Labs,
Don;t they teach you kids nothin in school??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
Running a 40 yo OS. .....LMAO>>>>>>
I just hope you are kidding dude...
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I just hope you are kidding dude...
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Kidding???????????
I posted the fact filled link from Wiki , are you kidding?
Linux is a 44 year old OS>
Yeah, got it. Sorry, but that's not funny at all.
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Yeah, got it. Sorry, but that's not funny at all.
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I think its hilarious , people thinking they are doing something cool and new. I was doing this stuff Unix in college in 1978
DigitalMD said:
Linux is soooooooooo 1960s
originally developed in 1969 by a group of AT&T employees at Bell Labs,
Don;t they teach you kids nothin in school??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
Running a 40 yo OS. .....LMAO>>>>>>
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Linux WAS NOT developed in the 1960s, nor was it developed by Bell Labs. It does copy UNIX, however. Linus Torvalds wrote the kernel from scratch and posted it to the Minix mailinglist in the 80s (what's wrong with an old OS xD at least it is being continued).
And also, Bada and Android are based on Linux, and Windows 9x won't run because it is developed for x86 chipsets, not ARM.
Go and do your research first
No dude, what is hilarious is that you keep that point of yours. We are not trying to emulate a dead OS from 60's( which is not the Linux case, by the way), we are running a modern version of a distro ported to an ARM platform and by consequence ALL of its apps and libraries.
Ubuntu Touch is now availible for ARM chipsets!
DigitalMD, it's not the fact we're making something new, it's the fact we're improving it, making it how we want it.
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No dude, what is hilarious is that you keep that point of yours. We are not trying to emulate a dead OS from 60's( which is not the Linux case, by the way), we are running a modern version of a distro ported to an ARM platform and by consequence ALL of its apps and libraries.
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Exactly.
I'm running Linux right now, and uname -a returns:
Code:
Linux kube 3.5.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 01:50:30 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Kernel last updated 7th Feb. Dead OS? I think not.
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That's great. Have you seen the Nova Paladin video? It would be awesome if you could kill the UI and run the X server with mtev.
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Windoze???? You've got to be kidding!!
Yes, UNIX was created by Kernighan and Ritchie (K&R) at Bell Labs (BTL) in the late 60's. Its main attributes are that it is a mujlti-user, multi-tasking and processor-independent operating system. It is transportable to different hardware simply by rewriting the underlying kernel specifics before compiling. Their group also created the C language to better handle its features, finding Fortran to be too cumbersome. In other words, it was done right from the ground up; one would be hard-pressed to devise a better OS. I perceive Ubuntu and other implementations as primarily UI applications, but I'm not a programmer.
You can find a nice history (and license plates!) at unix.org.
Linus Torvalds, as previously mentioned, ported UNIX to the IBM PC by rewriting the kernel and rather narcissistically dubbed it "Linux".
Microsoft Windows can run only on the Intel boat anchor, and is a crazy-quilt of patches over the original single-user kludge, PC-DOS. Bill Gates plastered too much lipstick on that pig long ago.
Alright, time to dust off the old laptop and give Linux a whirl on it. This time, however, I don't want Ubuntu and I'm gonna take a different approach. This laptop has 4GB of RAM and a 640 GB HDD and a 2.3 GHz dual core AMD processor. I dunno yet which distro I want, but I'm gonna keep it fairly easy to begin with (I've run Linux on and off for around 2 years). I was thinking Mint because it's an AMD laptop. This is how I was thinking the partitioning scheme would be. Note that I will run several distros on this but I'm beginning with one.
/boot ~ 100 MB
/ ~ a generous 10 GB
/home ~ 10-15 GB
swap ~ 4 GB
Unused space ~ whatever's left, around 610-615 GB
This is not my main computer and I will only use it to toy around with and maybe learn some more than what I already know. I kinda like debian based distros and prefer aptitude (apt-get) over yum. In the future, though, Arch will definitely be on it. I've run arch before in VBox on Windows and I had an openbox DE on it without a login manager.
What are your thought on this?
First of all: a alptop with AMD cpu is something you should sell 'asap'.
They are burning like hell...
I was thinking Mint because it's an AMD laptop
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So, what does it mean to you?
No matter, whether it's an AMD or Intel, any of the Linux distros works fine on both processors.
/boot ~ 100 MB
/ ~ a generous 10 GB
/home ~ 10-15 GB
swap ~ 4 GB
Unused space ~ whatever's left, around 610-615 GB
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Why so complicated?
Just make one partition for system (" / ") ... Something around 10GB.
Another for "/home". Something about 10GB is fine if you just work with that. If you aim to store some more files, make it bigger.
Swap should be as big as your RAM, but not bigger than 4GB.
And unused space ... well, it's non-sense! If you not want to install Windows on it, just use it als "/home"
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First of all: a alptop with AMD cpu is something you should sell 'asap'.
They are burning like hell...
So, what does it mean to you?
No matter, whether it's an AMD or Intel, any of the Linux distros works fine on both processors.
Why so complicated?
Just make one partition for system (" / ") ... Something around 10GB.
Another for "/home". Something about 10GB is fine if you just work with that. If you aim to store some more files, make it bigger.
Swap should be as big as your RAM, but not bigger than 4GB.
And unused space ... well, it's non-sense! If you not want to install Windows on it, just use it als "/home"
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That's the setup I've had for a long time and it's worked nicely. There are IMO just benefits with having a separate boot partition.
Also, I said I'll eventually run more distros which is why I'll leave it unused, plus I may resize a partition or two. Maybe I'll set the unused space as LVM post-install.
For simplicity's sake I might set just a root partition per Linux distro, though.
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Hey all. Im thinkin about putting together a computer to build roms. I have an idea of what i want.
Now i was wondering if i could get some ideas from devs or home builders with experience.
Now this is what id like to build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XpwKK8
Now im wondering. Would an i7 really be all that much better at building roms than a amd fx 8 core?
I would like to play some games also but they dont have to be perfect.
Just looking for opinions
From my past experience, you will need lots of RAM to complete builds quickly.
You might want to consider increasing your current 8gb to at least 16gb or even 32gb. And using a SSD will save you a lot of time as well, but I don't know how much you're willing to spend.
First of all, I would recommend with the i7 because in my experience Intel has always worked much more smoothly and easily with Linux. And like the guy above me mentioned lots of ram and an ssd would help you greatly.
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First of all, I would recommend with the i7 because in my experience Intel has always worked much more smoothly and easily with Linux. And like the guy above me mentioned lots of ram and an ssd would help you greatly.
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Well I think this setup is a good start then. I definitely add more ram and a ssd
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Well I think this setup is a good start then. I definitely add more ram and a ssd
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What distro of Linux do you plan on using?
You should post your budget so we know what you can buy.
i7 over amd fx...not that i hate amd products,am a big fan except for its CPU that overheat a little bit
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Looks solid. Just get 16 GB of RAM if you can. You won't need the GTX 760 to build android from source; but I think you choose that part to do some gaming instead.
You might want a SSD as your boot drive. Using a SSD to store and compile android from source may not be the best idea as the entire process needs quite a bit of space. But hey, that's up to you to decide.
And uh for Linux distro to use, some suggestions are Elementary OS or Linux Mint. Recent Ubuntu (14.04) seems very strange to use. Then again, there's a lot of distros to choose from, so give them a try down the line.
Sorry for the late response, but thanks for the replies.
Right now im using xubuntu 14.04.
Im not very experienced but im learnin. Just learned how to build slim from source and im typing on the rom i built right now, its stock slim. Id like to learn how to cherry pic stuff so i can make it my own, then maybe one day be able to write my own source code.
So, I guess id use xubuntu, has worked so far. Unless theres a better suggestion or reason to use something ells.
I plan to piece this rig together over a month or two or however long it takes. I guess my budget is sorta endless, $1,000 is more than i would like to spend, but id like to have a pretty darn good rig. It doesnt have to be the absolute fastest computer in the world, but id like to be up there. Ive heard lots of good things about the gpu and cpu i picked and kinda set on it. Id maybe change to a cheaper i5 equivalent, i heard the i7 isnt a huge difference in gaming as most games dont utilize HT. But i assume it would help build roms.
So anyway, im ok with spending $800-$1,000 to have a great rig to start. But I always plan on adding to it. This list is just to get me going, first id maybe buy the MB, then the cpu, then the case, then maybe a 8gb stick of ram and a hdd etc.
In the end, id like to have at least 16gb of ram, dunno if more would make a difference
And have maybe 2 250gb ssd, one with windows 7 installed and the other with linux installed (dont know if thats possible) then 2 1tb 64mb hd's and another gpu, which i believe the mb i picked is not good for dual gpu's so i might need to find a different mb
Edit: well, now that i think about it. 2 250's might be over kill, maybe 2 80's or 64's just for the os
Anybody got any good suggestion s on ssd's? I heard they dont last very long without some tweaking. But, what are some dependable brands?
Create multiple partitions and dual boot lol
&& Yes you can put multiple SSD's with different OS on them. Ideally you want the OS on the SSD because they're extremely fast. Just get a high RPM HDD for storage tbh. I'm pretty sure mods will delete my link if I post one, so just Google newegg and see what they have to offer