Alright, time to dust off the old laptop and give Linux a whirl on it. This time, however, I don't want Ubuntu and I'm gonna take a different approach. This laptop has 4GB of RAM and a 640 GB HDD and a 2.3 GHz dual core AMD processor. I dunno yet which distro I want, but I'm gonna keep it fairly easy to begin with (I've run Linux on and off for around 2 years). I was thinking Mint because it's an AMD laptop. This is how I was thinking the partitioning scheme would be. Note that I will run several distros on this but I'm beginning with one.
/boot ~ 100 MB
/ ~ a generous 10 GB
/home ~ 10-15 GB
swap ~ 4 GB
Unused space ~ whatever's left, around 610-615 GB
This is not my main computer and I will only use it to toy around with and maybe learn some more than what I already know. I kinda like debian based distros and prefer aptitude (apt-get) over yum. In the future, though, Arch will definitely be on it. I've run arch before in VBox on Windows and I had an openbox DE on it without a login manager.
What are your thought on this?
First of all: a alptop with AMD cpu is something you should sell 'asap'.
They are burning like hell...
I was thinking Mint because it's an AMD laptop
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So, what does it mean to you?
No matter, whether it's an AMD or Intel, any of the Linux distros works fine on both processors.
/boot ~ 100 MB
/ ~ a generous 10 GB
/home ~ 10-15 GB
swap ~ 4 GB
Unused space ~ whatever's left, around 610-615 GB
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Why so complicated?
Just make one partition for system (" / ") ... Something around 10GB.
Another for "/home". Something about 10GB is fine if you just work with that. If you aim to store some more files, make it bigger.
Swap should be as big as your RAM, but not bigger than 4GB.
And unused space ... well, it's non-sense! If you not want to install Windows on it, just use it als "/home"
renegade2k said:
First of all: a alptop with AMD cpu is something you should sell 'asap'.
They are burning like hell...
So, what does it mean to you?
No matter, whether it's an AMD or Intel, any of the Linux distros works fine on both processors.
Why so complicated?
Just make one partition for system (" / ") ... Something around 10GB.
Another for "/home". Something about 10GB is fine if you just work with that. If you aim to store some more files, make it bigger.
Swap should be as big as your RAM, but not bigger than 4GB.
And unused space ... well, it's non-sense! If you not want to install Windows on it, just use it als "/home"
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That's the setup I've had for a long time and it's worked nicely. There are IMO just benefits with having a separate boot partition.
Also, I said I'll eventually run more distros which is why I'll leave it unused, plus I may resize a partition or two. Maybe I'll set the unused space as LVM post-install.
For simplicity's sake I might set just a root partition per Linux distro, though.
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i am wondering if its possible to do a full install of windows 7 on a viewsonic g tablet
Hi,
I don't think so ... All Windows versions, including Windows 7 are X86 code. The Gtab is using ARM CPU.
MS recently announced that their "next" Windows is suppose to be able to run on ARM, but that's a ways away (years?)...
Probably this thread is in the wrong forum, BTW...
Jim
Correct - the only Windows 7 tablets out there are x86 based. The closest thing that could work would be Windows CE, but there's really no point in bothering with that. Ubuntu or some other Linux distro would be a better solution, right now (and already being worked on).
A little bit of history - the earliest versions of Windows NT actually ran on several different types of CPU's. Over time, MS scaled back until only x86 was supported.
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damn. My school is a ***** and told me that they would only give internet if i had a windows device. Now i have to spoof my mack address every time(because i have my laptop registered) with my laptop mac address to acces the wifi.
If there is any chance to install any distro of windows(as /&%#€~¬ slowly as it can run) please tell me to have legal and easy internet connection at my school.
Hey, bumping this thread because of CES update I watched. From what I heard, when they showed the new version of Windows (don't get excited, they just showed some technical features, nothing big) they said that it would be able to run on ARM platforms, and actually showed it running on one. Do you think this would therefore work on the g-tab? Discuss?
Yes the upcoming Windows 8 could in theory work on the G-tab but until it's out and we have more info on it we don't know
Putting an ARM version of windows 8 on the gtab sounds plausible with Ubuntu working on it. The only problem I see is the gtabs 512 MB of ram when the minimum of vista and 7 is a gb. Maybe they'll scale it back for a win 8 tab edition but i doubt it.
but that is no problem; from what i read in an other post, Gtab has a 512 ddr2 ram and a free socket for you to put in more. In theory, you would be able to put up a lot of ram on the thing but i dont know how much the android distros support.
I also read that the g tab had a space for a 3g modem which i am intrested in even though i cant find the post where a guy opens the g tab to see the inside.
It's not a 'socket' it's solder points for more ram chips. but you could in theory add more ram but it's not going to be easy.
Google the Malata Zpad....its the same as the G Tablet with 1Gb ram and 3G and I can't imagine windows 8 is gonna be less of a memory hog than previous releases.
The time has come for me to install Linux again as a dual boot and I had in mind either Fedora 17 with gnome 3 DE or any *buntu variant (say kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu), not related Ubuntu though as I hate Unity.
I don't want arch as I'm not looking for a bare bone. Not Gentoo or any distribution like it.
I don't want a bloated one like Mint or its derivatives. I'm pretty sure I don't want any distro other than Fedora or a *buntu one as there tends to be much help to get if one wants it.
Though, I might look into Slackware, centos or some other distro if they're easy to set up and not bare bone.
I have roughly 100gb to utilize (more like 97-ish) and that ought to be enough for playing around in. Whatever I choose, I had in mind to divide the space like this: 250mb /boot, 40gb / (root), 4gb swap and whatever is left for /home
Thoughts, ideas?
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I have googled the hell out of this, and there just isnt much out there. How much Ram is best for building ROM's? I understand that there is no such thing as too much RAM, but how much is really beneficial? I am currently building from source, and doing some cherry picks with a gateway laptop. 2.1 GHZ dual core AMD vision processor, 4GB Ram DDR3 PC-8500. I am thinking about upgrading to 8GB DDR PC10200. I am wondering if this will speed anything up or not. Or is it just unnecessary spending? The memory is only like $45 shipped so its not overly pricey, but the only thing increasing memory will help me with (or will it?) is compiling and buiding, and syncing. My internet is only ATT DSL and my max download is like 5mb. It is typically my hinderence. Please advise!
And no I cannot upgrade my internet, my complex wont let us have cable from anyone but them and they only offer 1.5mb from bloom, and they want $45 per month. I am paying $20 per month for ATT DSL @ 6mb (which i never get obviously). There are no other DSL providers and like I said the complex wont let any other company bring in cable connections.
It really depends on what OS you're running. A lot of OEMs put x32 Windows on their systems, even though they're all capable of x64 now. If you have a 32-bit system and are running Windows, your OS will limit you to ~3GB of available memory, regardless of how much you have physically installed.
If you're running Linux (which is recommended, I believe, for development), then more memory is always a good thing. The more memory and the faster processor means faster compiling speeds. Faster compiling speed means you can test your ROM/app faster.
Syncing will depend solely on your download speeds, so RAM will not really have any effect on that at all.
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It really depends on what OS you're running. A lot of OEMs put x32 Windows on their systems, even though they're all capable of x64 now. If you have a 32-bit system and are running Windows, your OS will limit you to ~3GB of available memory, regardless of how much you have physically installed.
If you're running Linux (which is recommended, I believe, for development), then more memory is always a good thing. The more memory and the faster processor means faster compiling speeds. Faster compiling speed means you can test your ROM/app faster.
Syncing will depend solely on your download speeds, so RAM will not really have any effect on that at all.
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You can't build source in windows and he has stated he is building from source so he's on linux.
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Illnevertell said:
You can't build source in windows and he has stated he is building from source so he's on linux.
Ram isn't dudes problem your processor could use an upgrade though with a decent dual core building at standard -j4 will take roughly 2 hours on cm
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You can't build source in windows and he has stated he is building from source so he's on linux.
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That wasn't mentioned in the OP, but my comments about 32-bit vs 64-bit still hold. There are ways to virtualize, and that would run differently than a full install.
Ram isn't dudes problem your processor could use an upgrade though with a decent dual core building at standard -j4 will take roughly 2 hours on cm
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The AMD Vision series are dual, quad, and octo core processors. I'm guessing that his is at least a dual core already. Not saying an upgrade wouldn't help, but it's harder to upgrade a laptop processor than a desktop one.
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That wasn't mentioned in the OP, but my comments about 32-bit vs 64-bit still hold. There are ways to virtualize, and that would run differently than a full install.
The AMD Vision series are dual, quad, and octo core processors. I'm guessing that his is at least a dual core already. Not saying an upgrade wouldn't help, but it's harder to upgrade a laptop processor than a desktop one.
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It's a dual core, wish it was quad lol. I am running Linux mint, 64 bit so that won't limit me thankfully. Good info guys!
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I just read that you can't compile 2.3.x+ without a 64-bit OS, so my comments about the OS are rendered mostly useless. Other comments still hold, though.
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I just read that you can't compile 2.3.x+ without a 64-bit OS, so my comments about the OS are rendered mostly useless. Other comments still hold, though.
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At one point in time I was compiling cm9 on my 32bit system. Took about an two and a half hours though. Dual core with 3gig ram
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ICS I could compile on 32 bit jb I need 64 bit
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I think I'm gonna just grab an 8gb kit from crucial and see what happens
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That's dumb no point get a better processor before that much ram it will not help you at all with compiling without something to use that data
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That's dumb no point get a better processor before that much ram it will not help you at all with compiling without something to use that data
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I can't find a processor that's compatible, plus so far building cm10 hasn't even used 75% of my processor. If you can find a way to replace a laptop processor let me know. I hear it's a pain.
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I can do it on my dell inspiron bro and why get 8 gigs of ram your not doing anything that needs it if your also not pushing the processor
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I can do it on my dell inspiron bro and why get 8 gigs of ram your not doing anything that needs it if your also not pushing the processor
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I'll look into finding a drop in quad core, it will take time to research tho.
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Rom Building Setup
Decepticaons said:
I have googled the hell out of this, and there just isnt much out there. How much Ram is best for building ROM's? I understand that there is no such thing as too much RAM, but how much is really beneficial? I am currently building from source, and doing some cherry picks with a gateway laptop. 2.1 GHZ dual core AMD vision processor, 4GB Ram DDR3 PC-8500. I am thinking about upgrading to 8GB DDR PC10200. I am wondering if this will speed anything up or not. Or is it just unnecessary spending? The memory is only like $45 shipped so its not overly pricey, but the only thing increasing memory will help me with (or will it?) is compiling and buiding, and syncing. My internet is only ATT DSL and my max download is like 5mb. It is typically my hinderence. Please advise!
And no I cannot upgrade my internet, my complex wont let us have cable from anyone but them and they only offer 1.5mb from bloom, and they want $45 per month. I am paying $20 per month for ATT DSL @ 6mb (which i never get obviously). There are no other DSL providers and like I said the complex wont let any other company bring in cable connections.
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I'm currently using an old Vista computer with an AMD Athlon Dual core 4600+, GeForce 210 PCIe, & 2GB of DDR2. Nothing fancy nor overclocked. I have Linux Mint 13 "Maya" - Cinnamon (64-bit) installed and it all works quite nicely. Your biggest downfall is going to be your DSL (I have the same) because it takes a few hours to download the repository files. As far as compiling & debugging goes, it's all good.
The Mint linux is simply a Ubuntu based OS with far less GUI issues on my older comp, I've had both but Mint seems to run smoother:
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=106
There's lotsa good info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690
I'm still very new to the actual building myself but I've had a blast learning! My phone is actually running on a system I compiled all by myself! I couldn't have done it without all the help from my new friends here on XDA...
Search the forum for more info, it's ALL there, you simple need to look for it! Hope I helped...
Have fun with it!
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scootertrashtx said:
I'm currently using an old Vista computer with an AMD Athlon Dual core 4600+, GeForce 210 PCIe, & 2GB of DDR2. Nothing fancy nor overclocked. I have Linux Mint 13 "Maya" - Cinnamon (64-bit) installed and it all works quite nicely. Your biggest downfall is going to be your DSL (I have the same) because it takes a few hours to download the repository files. As far as compiling & debugging goes, it's all good.
The Mint linux is simply a Ubuntu based OS with far less GUI issues on my older comp, I've had both but Mint seems to run smoother:
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=106
There's lotsa good info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690
I'm still very new to the actual building myself but I've had a blast learning! My phone is actually running on a system I compiled all by myself! I couldn't have done it without all the help from my new friends here on XDA...
Search the forum for more info, it's ALL there, you simple need to look for it! Hope I helped...
Have fun with it!
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I should have mentioned my compile time, It took about 5 1/2 hours on JB... you can throttle the output a bit with a command code that sk8ter listed... let me find it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766862
3rd code block in #1...
If you're using a laptop, set it on a hard, flat surface or better yet, get a cooler... it'll get a bit warm.
Read this too... good info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812253
Hey guys, I've been around here for a while, and I've finally decided to try and start compiling and building from source myself. I know that it's possible to develop from there, and I've set up Virtual Box multiple times, but I'm not sure what to assign to it (hardware). As much as I'd like to dual boot my system, my computer was set up to have a dynamic partition, and so sadly it isn't possible to do so.
So here are my main questions:
How many gigabytes of storage do I partition for Virtual Box?
How many cores will I need to assign?
How much RAM do I allow my virtual environment?
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When answering, keep in mind that I will be compiling Jelly Bean.
Hardware Components on my PC
Quad Core 2nd Gen i7 Processor @ 2.2gHz (w/hyper threading)
2x 350gb 5400rpm hard drives
8 gb RAM
A normal rom data is about 20GB...
I dunno how much ram it require. Most of the developers run Linux. And even in i7 and SSD, it takes about 2 hours to compile a rom...
For apps, I'm not too sure. A 5MB app Is about 40mb after decompile.
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Hey all. Im thinkin about putting together a computer to build roms. I have an idea of what i want.
Now i was wondering if i could get some ideas from devs or home builders with experience.
Now this is what id like to build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XpwKK8
Now im wondering. Would an i7 really be all that much better at building roms than a amd fx 8 core?
I would like to play some games also but they dont have to be perfect.
Just looking for opinions
From my past experience, you will need lots of RAM to complete builds quickly.
You might want to consider increasing your current 8gb to at least 16gb or even 32gb. And using a SSD will save you a lot of time as well, but I don't know how much you're willing to spend.
First of all, I would recommend with the i7 because in my experience Intel has always worked much more smoothly and easily with Linux. And like the guy above me mentioned lots of ram and an ssd would help you greatly.
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First of all, I would recommend with the i7 because in my experience Intel has always worked much more smoothly and easily with Linux. And like the guy above me mentioned lots of ram and an ssd would help you greatly.
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Well I think this setup is a good start then. I definitely add more ram and a ssd
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Well I think this setup is a good start then. I definitely add more ram and a ssd
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What distro of Linux do you plan on using?
You should post your budget so we know what you can buy.
i7 over amd fx...not that i hate amd products,am a big fan except for its CPU that overheat a little bit
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Looks solid. Just get 16 GB of RAM if you can. You won't need the GTX 760 to build android from source; but I think you choose that part to do some gaming instead.
You might want a SSD as your boot drive. Using a SSD to store and compile android from source may not be the best idea as the entire process needs quite a bit of space. But hey, that's up to you to decide.
And uh for Linux distro to use, some suggestions are Elementary OS or Linux Mint. Recent Ubuntu (14.04) seems very strange to use. Then again, there's a lot of distros to choose from, so give them a try down the line.
Sorry for the late response, but thanks for the replies.
Right now im using xubuntu 14.04.
Im not very experienced but im learnin. Just learned how to build slim from source and im typing on the rom i built right now, its stock slim. Id like to learn how to cherry pic stuff so i can make it my own, then maybe one day be able to write my own source code.
So, I guess id use xubuntu, has worked so far. Unless theres a better suggestion or reason to use something ells.
I plan to piece this rig together over a month or two or however long it takes. I guess my budget is sorta endless, $1,000 is more than i would like to spend, but id like to have a pretty darn good rig. It doesnt have to be the absolute fastest computer in the world, but id like to be up there. Ive heard lots of good things about the gpu and cpu i picked and kinda set on it. Id maybe change to a cheaper i5 equivalent, i heard the i7 isnt a huge difference in gaming as most games dont utilize HT. But i assume it would help build roms.
So anyway, im ok with spending $800-$1,000 to have a great rig to start. But I always plan on adding to it. This list is just to get me going, first id maybe buy the MB, then the cpu, then the case, then maybe a 8gb stick of ram and a hdd etc.
In the end, id like to have at least 16gb of ram, dunno if more would make a difference
And have maybe 2 250gb ssd, one with windows 7 installed and the other with linux installed (dont know if thats possible) then 2 1tb 64mb hd's and another gpu, which i believe the mb i picked is not good for dual gpu's so i might need to find a different mb
Edit: well, now that i think about it. 2 250's might be over kill, maybe 2 80's or 64's just for the os
Anybody got any good suggestion s on ssd's? I heard they dont last very long without some tweaking. But, what are some dependable brands?
Create multiple partitions and dual boot lol
&& Yes you can put multiple SSD's with different OS on them. Ideally you want the OS on the SSD because they're extremely fast. Just get a high RPM HDD for storage tbh. I'm pretty sure mods will delete my link if I post one, so just Google newegg and see what they have to offer