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Run Tiny Core Linux on Win Mobile?

Hello!Have you ever heard about Tiny Core Linux...it is only 11MB big and it has a graphical interface.So is it possible to run it on Windows Mobile based phone.I read that is possible to run Ubuntu on many phones but is it possible to run Tiny Core Linux.Thank you in advance!

may be that's possible,but i am still wondering what the iny core linux is

zdzeee said:
may be that's possible,but i am still wondering what the iny core linux is
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You have any link for download? I would like to try.
Thank you.

Yes...here it is tinycorelinux dot com

intresting...
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/welcome.html

seems it's kernel is for x86 not for ARM

Well...i have ever seen that you can run Rhobuntu (Ubuntu) on many HTC phones (see youtube - type 'rhobuntu').

xukca said:
Well...i have ever seen that you can run Rhobuntu (Ubuntu) on many HTC phones (see youtube - type 'rhobuntu').
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Doesn't make any difference, the sources will need to be compiled for an arm cpu, then drivers will have to be added etc, you are better of with the current android ports that are going on.

..let me show you ARM version of linux, that i could imagine in PDA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--xlwE8UlY&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfE2vSk3Hbc&feature=related
etc etc...
this is what can be done with ARM cpu line and some brain.
others can.
only thing i wanted you to realize how FAR we are from real portable os for work with our wm/android/whatever.

Someone managed to do it drove this Linux?

Is there any way that you can run linux shell on HTC Diamond or anyway to run aircrack-ng

xukca said:
Is there any way that you can run linux shell on HTC Diamond or anyway to run aircrack-ng
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Lol, no, and it would be totally pointless. Too slow for aircrack-ng

if its able to run Linux... will it be able to run android on top of this Linux?

BlueEditionE6 said:
if its able to run Linux... will it be able to run android on top of this Linux?
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Why run two cores(kernels) on one not-so-fast machine? Kinda pointless imo.

Ubuntu Linux (vs. Android) for phones and tablets?

Many would prefer a real Linux running on their phones or tablets, and that might not be too far away: http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/11/01/ubuntu-versus-android-for-phones-and-tablets/
Now how about a Gnome or KDE desktop environment to go with it?
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Plasma is already being developed for mobile devices. Looks very promising.
Shoot me if I'm wrong, but MeeGo looks great as well.
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I support all open-source variants whether it is android, ubuntu, webos or meego
by the way, someone has tried to port ubuntu 11.04 to touchpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304475

Why limit it to just one distro? What I'd like to have is the ability to run any chosen distro. This would require a bootloader that can load an arbitrary kernel, and all hardware drivers in a form that allows them to be compiled for any arbitrary kernel. This means keeping up with new releases of the kernel and new X versions. Like Nvidia does it for their Geforce graphic cards. Even better would be open-source drivers, but if the vendor keeps up, I don't mind a closed driver for a few hardware pieces.
But that's utopian thinking. And that's why (plus a few other reasons) I'll always prefer a netbook over a tablet. As for phones, with Nokia dropping Meego, I don't see any "true" Linux taking off.

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:-( the 10 post limit strikes again..
sent...ah whatever its on there now..

Moved

Voice of confidence.!

I am a beginner on this page. I am writing this to backup the other developers on this form. A lot of people who has been going around on the surface forum repeating over and over fat some functions will never work. I've been around modding phones since when Windows Mobile 3 came out back when I was in middle school. I remember when Windows Mobile came out a website called geekstoolbox.com whats the phone for many modders to build custom firmware for Windows Phones. I remembered and middle school it was difficult to make certain improvements because Windows Mobile phones were close systems. I remember then listen to visit on the forum who actually broken too the phone am I allowed a dump of data to flow in Internet of his phone start new custom ROM custom firmware revolution to begin. Afterwards, I begin saying revolutionary products such as wifi tether, Bluetooth tethering, Mobile sharing, and in custom OS. to those web visiting thi about s forum repeating over and over and over, that there would be no Windows based x86 programs on when does RT we'll be eating crow when it finally does happen within the next few months. I see it being possible when you consider if someone will, compile a virtual machine enabling many features of Windows 8 x86. Furthermore, suppose it becomes like parallels Macintosh. In addition, maybe someone will develop 8 translator package for Windows 82 windows Rt to understand each other's programs. all that I am saying is please do not be downers and out other people expressions about this tablet and is always
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I meant to end by saying, please do not doubt other people's expressions about this templates capabilities in with the wish to see on this tablet because the possibilities are there and if someone desires it enough it will come to fruition.
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There are already two x86 emulators (Bochs and DosBox) for Windows RT. Bochs is slow to the point of being unusable, and DosBox is slow to the point of lagging while playing games from 1992.
x86 will likely never run (games) well on Windows RT, but it does in fact already run.

See,! It already possible . I have 1 questions, do they use virtual machines or do they do rely on the Internet
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befreshshaveivorysalesoap said:
See,! It already possible . I have 1 questions, do they use virtual machines or do they do rely on the Internet
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They use virtual machines, but they're slow to the point of complete uselessness. It takes half an hour to boot XP in them.

befreshshaveivorysalesoap said:
I meant to end by saying, please do not doubt other people's expressions about this templates capabilities in with the wish to see on this tablet because the possibilities are there and if someone desires it enough it will come to fruition.
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Tempered with a dose of reality, when you acknowledge that even a dual core ARM cpu is still very underpowered to emulate a full x86 cpu/environment. If what you want is a good x86 experience, the Surface RT isn't what you want.
That's not saying you can't get a decent toy x86 environment, or really good recompiled for arm desktop apps. Those two work fine.

schettj said:
Tempered with a dose of reality, when you acknowledge that even a dual core ARM cpu is still very underpowered to emulate a full x86 cpu/environment. If what you want is a good x86 experience, the Surface RT isn't what you want.
That's not saying you can't get a decent toy x86 environment, or really good recompiled for arm desktop apps. Those two work fine.
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Maybe not the full experience but something like WINE on Linux. Most people who buys the RT version aren't power PC users and don't require much anyhow , except for a few apps

befreshshaveivorysalesoap said:
Maybe not the full experience but something like WINE on Linux. Most people who buys the RT version aren't power PC users and don't require much anyhow , except for a few apps
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Wine on x86 linux isn't emulating the CPU. This is a critical difference.

schettj said:
Tempered with a dose of reality, when you acknowledge that even a dual core ARM cpu is still very underpowered to emulate a full x86 cpu/environment. If what you want is a good x86 experience, the Surface RT isn't what you want.
That's not saying you can't get a decent toy x86 environment, or really good recompiled for arm desktop apps. Those two work fine.
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I believe that all the Windows RT devices are quad core right now.
befreshshaveivorysalesoap said:
Maybe not the full experience but something like WINE on Linux. Most people who buys the RT version aren't power PC users and don't require much anyhow , except for a few apps
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It's really very unlikely that any x86 program bigger than Notepad will ever be usability fast/stable. I'd go read up a bit on emulation and the downsides regarding speed with it. This is the same reason that android tablets, which are quite arguably far more suited for this, can't do anything better than emulate 20 year old OSes, and do that poorly.

netham45 said:
I believe that all the Windows RT devices are quad core right now.
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d'oh! flip flopping between windows phone 8 and windows RT Yep, 4 arm cores. Still like trying to emulate a V8 with an inline4.

netham45 said:
I believe that all the Windows RT devices are quad core right now.
It's really very unlikely that any x86 program bigger than Notepad will ever be usability fast/stable. I'd go read up a bit on emulation and the downsides regarding speed with it. This is the same reason that android tablets, which are quite arguably far more suited for this, can't do anything better than emulate 20 year old OSes, and do that poorly.
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Instead of emulating an entire OS, would anyone entertain the idea of a program translator; A program could be build with the libraries of some main OS'es. Within the translator, when an x86 program is called the programs determines what operating systems' library to use. The translator would then render a version of the program Windows with RT can understand.
Couldn't this be likely.

netham45 said:
There are already two x86 emulators (Bochs and DosBox) for Windows RT. Bochs is slow to the point of being unusable, and DosBox is slow to the point of lagging while playing games from 1992.
x86 will likely never run (games) well on Windows RT, but it does in fact already run.
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I believe I no what the issue with these are.......... Bochs and DosBox do not allow users to control processing cores for each emulation. These emulators need to be updated to take advantage of this feature, it's a blessing for other OS'es

There's already a translator project much like what you describe, actually. It's early alpha quality right now, only able to run a few apps and those slowly and with stability problems, but it's a very promising proof of concept. The developer is using the DOSBox dynamic recompilation engine, optimized for THUMB-2 (ARM variant that Windows uses) with some hacks in it to remove support for stuff that only the kernel has to care about like page tables and whatnot (these hacks apparently substantially increase speed). The recompilation engine is not currently thread-safe, which means it has to run on a single core (although it's possible that the translated program itself might be able to run across multiple cores; I don't know for sure) but the possibility of fixing that is being investigated.
The project is on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum, and there's a download link for it and a (mostly playable) demo of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 as an example of what it can currently do.

Can someone point me in the duration to learn about building for ARM. I want to see if I can contribute. In school I am only learning about the x86 and x64 architectural

befreshshaveivorysalesoap said:
Can someone point me in the duration to learn about building for ARM. I want to see if I can contribute. In school I am only learning about the x86 and x64 architectural
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Currently this is the porting method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820&highlight=arm
Requires visual studio to cross compile from a desktop windows machine.

Surface running andriod?

Anybody successfully ran native android on the Surface or Surface pro? I sall a video but no Wifi or Bluetooth were working he said. AnywayIf so has anyone heard of any plans for running it on the 2nd Surface?

Surface RT and surface 2, nothing has changed. Use search, there are threads for it already.
Surface pro. Android x86, but its poorly supported. Also Android-IA, poorly supported on the surface but working for one of the samsung tablets.

Right ok... I thought so its a shame that nobodys supporting it to well

Why the lolz would anyone want to run android on a surface pro?

No android apps need the raw CPU performance. Many games dont support x86. Can get a (poor) android tablet for the cost of the type cover for the surface.

So I can have 3 operating systems that i use most on one machine
Also bluestacks sucks I can't stand it.

hacktheplant said:
So I can have 3 operating systems that i use most on one machine
Also bluestacks sucks I can't stand it.
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Jar Of Beans is better than bluestacks. Android on x86 devices isn't much better when you factor in driver issues (wifi and bluetooth are often unsupported, even touch and sound go, androidIA only supports specific devices because they only have drivers for those devices) plus any app using the NDK (quite a few, even some of the built in apps) tend to only be compiled for ARMv7, not MIPS or x86, so alot of apps are broken (many of the google defaults thankfully are available in x86 variants, but you cant just copy them from your ARM phone or tablet as they will only have the ARMv7 binary not the x86 binary). Its just awkward.

Aw thats awesome! Interesting but its discontinued I wonder why I hope that doesn't cause and problems

hacktheplant said:
So I can have 3 operating systems that i use most on one machine
Also bluestacks sucks I can't stand it.
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But windows 8 alone can do things android only dreams about...

Right but andriod has most of my fun with hacking and games

hacktheplant said:
Right but andriod has most of my fun with hacking and games
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Windows 8 on x86 has probably more mods and hacks than all versions of android combined...
You can even make it look like windows 95 if you want...

I know but I haven't gotten in that experience yet lol
It would be awesome if you tell me a few of them!

hacktheplant said:
I know but I haven't gotten in that experience yet lol
It would be awesome if you tell me a few of them!
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[Question] N64oid for RT 8.1?

I know the 8.1 jailbreak is coming soon and was looking into n64 emulators. http://slideme.org/application/n64oid that one is already compiled for ARM but is for android. Anyone know of any n64 emulator that will possible run on RT 8.1 (or that can be recompiled).

No, not quite yet. Unless N64oid is uploaded to the Windows Store, then you'll just have to wait for the jailbreak.

syn3h said:
No, not quite yet. Unless N64oid is uploaded to the Windows Store, then you'll just have to wait for the jailbreak.
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The question is has anyone converted it to work on Windows RT 8.0. It is an ARM build but for android.

numus said:
The question is has anyone converted it to work on Windows RT 8.0. It is an ARM build but for android.
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It is more likely that an x86 windows application can be ported to windows RT than an ARM android app can be ported to windows RT.
I think N64 was looked at before, I can't remember what the limitation was but it was most likely build tools or a graphics plugin.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
It is more likely that an x86 windows application can be ported to windows RT than an ARM android app can be ported to windows RT.
I think N64 was looked at before, I can't remember what the limitation was but it was most likely build tools or a graphics plugin.
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There are a lot of different N64 emulators for x86...

Someone could take a look at mupen64 and get that ported. That would be our best bet for a 64 emu. But I do believe graphics would be the main problem.
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numus said:
There are a lot of different N64 emulators for x86...
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I am aware.
I was just pointing out that your examples are useless. When porting software to RT, it doesnt matter if it has an ARM version elsewhere, the most important thing is that it is a win32 application before you can even remotely consider anything else, n64oid is not win32 in the slightest.
The x86 emulators may have JIT issues, may not compile under MSVC which is the only compiler we have for windows RT or rely on libraries which do not function.
N64 has been requested and turned down before. Someone should perhaps take another look though yes and the surface RT certainly has the power.

numus said:
There are a lot of different N64 emulators for x86...
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
It is more likely that an x86 windows application can be ported to windows RT than an ARM android app can be ported to windows RT.
I think N64 was looked at before, I can't remember what the limitation was but it was most likely build tools or a graphics plugin.
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Somebody looked at N64 on Windows RT a while back, and I read on another forum that it there were graphics problems

SixSixSevenSeven said:
I am aware.
I was just pointing out that your examples are useless. When porting software to RT, it doesnt matter if it has an ARM version elsewhere, the most important thing is that it is a win32 application before you can even remotely consider anything else, n64oid is not win32 in the slightest.
The x86 emulators may have JIT issues, may not compile under MSVC which is the only compiler we have for windows RT or rely on libraries which do not function.
N64 has been requested and turned down before. Someone should perhaps take another look though yes and the surface RT certainly has the power.
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Offtopic:
Dude, you are one of the nicest guys here. Everytime you take your time to give a very detailed good explaing answer. I needed to tell you, because guys like you makes me love this forum and the "thank button" was not enough
Ontopic:
Could this help?
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Thanks for the feedback.
Anyways, I managed to make the build clean enough so anyone with Visual Studio 2010+ OR its Windows SDK equivalent can build from scratch without any issues (other than a ton of compiler warnings, but it does run smoothly).
Again, these are all non-functional changes, but only changes to *.vcxproj files to make the soultion buildable (Under VS or using MSBuild in the command line)
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Source - Last post

BIade said:
Offtopic:
Dude, you are one of the nicest guys here. Everytime you take your time to give a very detailed good explaing answer. I needed to tell you, because guys like you makes me love this forum and the "thank button" was not enough
Ontopic:
Could this help?
Ver 1.4 Source
Ver2.x Source <-
Source - Last post
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Offtopic part: thanks
Ontopic part:
That it compiles in visual studio at all is certainly a start.

came across this:
http://www.emutalk.net/threads/49810-Mupen64-in-C-on-XNA
is it in any way related?

goldenpipes said:
came across this:
http://www.emutalk.net/threads/49810-Mupen64-in-C-on-XNA
is it in any way related?
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Completely outdated (2009) on no files available.... I can't imagine that it can help. Sorry mate

We have a psx emulator n64 should be possible.
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goldenpipes said:
We have a psx emulator n64 should be possible.
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What psx emulator on RT...?
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It doesn't look like RT 8.1 will be JB so the emulator question doesn't even matter anymore