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[Q] please post your quadrant score

I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.

mingkee said:
I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I ran the first quadrant within thirty minutes of getting the phone, and it scored 2554 or something like that.
Just ran one and scored... 2463

you have to realize this is the same chip as the XOOM and Atrix but its powering a lower resolution so the quadrant scores will be higher BUT you're at a lower resolution. I have a Xoom and it gets 1800 while this gets 2500. I'd rather have a higher resolution than a higher score. Still you shouldn't have any problems playing games on here.

Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...

These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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Nobody seems to be getting hung up in this thread?

mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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After scoring 1700 with my Legend with data2ext, I realized that Quadrant scores don't necessarily don't mean much. What I want to see is how much this phone scores in GLBenchmark.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA Premium App

mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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I don't get your point. How does it mean nothing but also means it's fast? It's a benchmark test. The point of it is to gauge performance, nothing more. Would you have bought one if it scored 850? After all... its a meaningless number.

djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.

atkhobby said:
This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?

djmcnz said:
It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?

MWBehr said:
I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.

djmcnz said:
I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.

MWBehr said:
I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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Oh? That's quite interesting news to me, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer actually that its not ASOP, I was looking forward to that. Let's hope the cut is shallow and easy to clean.
I hear CM7 is running on x2x so this all may become moot?

Sorry, I didn't read further.. I see the answers here in the forum. Please ignore this post
djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks

luckycook82 said:
Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
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In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic

djmcnz said:
In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
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Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?

jlevy73 said:
Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
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Just one run...

quadrant score
My quadrant score with pauls modaco rom is 3200+ which i am extremely happy with. on stock rom i was getting 26-2700.

>_<
O2x owners get the hell out of our forum! Your devices are programmed differently than ours, you've most likely tweaked your devices in some way (who comes to XDA and does not do so?), and you're confusing the situation.
Out of the box, the G2x from T-MOBILE USA scores about 2400-2500 on Quadrant. End of story.

Wind Mobile Optimus 2X (P999) users UNITE

Call out to all Wind Mobile Optimus 2X (P999 G2x) users! I wanted to start a thread to share our UNIQUE experiences with our O2x-G2x phone, that is unique to Wind and our network here in Canada. I know there will be overlap with other threads, but I thought it would useful to have information in one place.
Let's start talking about our experiences with:
- ROMs and Kernels
- Common Issues/bugs
- Network/Reception
- Accessories
- etc, etc.
I'll give it start:
ROM
MIUI 1.8.19 (Current - jface release)
Kernel: Dragon
(+) Slickest GUI out there, fast, most features, very iPhone-ish
(-) Battery life blows (but better with Dragon kernel and Juice Defender), very iPhone-ish
Previous
- MIUI 1.8.26 (whitehawkx release)
(-) data does not work (abandoned)
- EaglesBlood 1.08
(+) rock solid ROM, best battery life
(-) a few FC bugs, very plain vanilla
- CM7 dailies
(+) fast, better features than stock
(-) quite a few minor bugs and annoyances, battery life is OK
- Stock Froyo
(+) pretty stable
(-) slower, BLAH it's stock
COMMON ISSUES
Sleep of Death while on charger - need battery pull to reset (happens on all ROMs)
GPS locktime FIXED - changed SUPL server to supl.google.com
Crappy battery life - using Juice Defender and CPU tuner
NETWORK
Solid for downtown Toronto - some issues with indoors
Canada Roaming on Rogers works out of the box
US Roaming on T-mobile works out of the box
ACCESORIES
Soft touch firm plastic case from Pacific mall $6
micro-HDMI cable and external battery pack from Monoprice (not happy with either)
extra wall charger and car charger from eBay (jury still out)
Looking forward to the feedback of others on Wind.

Your phone is not unique. It is not an O2X in any way. It is exactly the same as the T-Mobile G2X with the Qualcomm baseband chip. The only difference is you have a Wind Mobile branded ROM with less bloatware. Don't confuse your device with an O2X. Any developments for the O2X will never apply to your device. You can use the KDZ updater to load the T-Mobile GB ROM to solve many of your problems. Then when the Wind Mobile update comes out and someone posts the KDZ file you can run the KDZ program again to install the new Wind Mobile GB ROM.

OP wasn't saying that the phone is unique, he was sharing his experience with different ROMs and Wind Mobile network. All the threads on XDA seem to be related to T-Mobile so I do appreciate this thread.

What's up fellow WIND users. I was just wondering if you guys could point me to a step-by-step to load a gingerbread ROM? It's been a year since I last did this stuff (used to have a rooted Nexus One) so everything is a bit rusty .
Also, how's the battery life on your rooted 2x's? My stock 2x lasts about a day with heavy use, which is not bad by smartphone standards i guess. Im hopin to get a bit better battery life with a gingerbread ROM (any suggestions which one to flash?).
Thanks all!

Btw, I'm trying to install clockwork recovery mod and i'm on the step where I have to choose my phone. Is the WIND model the T-mobile G2x or the standard LG Optimus 2x?
EDIT: figured it out

Thanos1 said:
Btw, I'm trying to install clockwork recovery mod and i'm on the step where I have to choose my phone. Is the WIND model the T-mobile G2x or the standard LG Optimus 2x?
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choose the tmo g2x version (p-999)
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OK please dis-regard my previous posts. I've figured out pretty much everything I needed to know about the rooting, backing up of roms, flashing etc...
Now my final question.
Which ROM would you guys recommend at the moment? I'm definitely looking for a gingerbread ROM, and here are the things that are important to me: stability, speed, and working video calling via Gtalk. Does the CM7 nightlies fit this criteria? What about MIUI? That MIUI interface looks sweet.
Thanks everyone!

Mobilicity g2x up in this biatch here
When I got this phone from Usa, the nexus s was still new to Canada so everyone went holy **** when the saw.the.g2x) )
Used roms:
Stock rooted froyo - extremely stable and fast. Battery good. Rocked this when cm7 were still fresh and were giving me reboots.
CM7 Nightlies- stable, fast, nice customization options. Battery about the same as stock, Not much ui things in it tho.
WEAPON G2X - stable, fast, battery good, awesome customization of launchers and lockscreens.
So far I've used those, I know there's more and kernels but I haven't played around with that yet. So far this beast killed everything I threw at it so iverclocking is unnecessarry at this point.
Holla at me on the bus when u see me rockin my g2x and big a$$ black headphones.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Thanks for the reply! So I'm guessing the CM7 nightlies and Weapon G2x have no problem with Gtalk video calling?
noobletsausecakebbq said:
Mobilicity g2x up in this biatch here
When I got this phone from Usa, the nexus s was still new to Canada so everyone went holy **** when the saw.the.g2x) )
Used roms:
Stock rooted froyo - extremely stable and fast. Battery good. Rocked this when cm7 were still fresh and were giving me reboots.
CM7 Nightlies- stable, fast, nice customization options. Battery about the same as stock, Not much ui things in it tho.
WEAPON G2X - stable, fast, battery good, awesome customization of launchers and lockscreens.
So far I've used those, I know there's more and kernels but I haven't played around with that yet. So far this beast killed everything I threw at it so iverclocking is unnecessarry at this point.
Holla at me on the bus when u see me rockin my g2x and big a$$ black headphones.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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Mobilicity welcome here too! What download speeds are you seeing on them BTW? My brother is on them but says he's only getting about 500kbps down.
Question to all Wind member as well, what are you speedtest at? For me I'm getting around:
2.5 Mbps down
800 kbps up

smoothmoose said:
COMMON ISSUES
Sleep of Death while on charger - need battery pull to reset (happens on all ROMs)
GPS locktime FIXED - changed SUPL server to supl.google.com
Crappy battery life - using Juice Defender and CPU tuner
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OK update on the Sleep of Death (SOD) issue. FIRST is anyone else experiencing this issue. After some further observations, I'm quite certain SOD happens when the phone is on the charger, connected on Wifi-n, connected Wind network. I does NOT happen when I'm on Wifi, but connected to Wind Away (rogers) as I was in Quebec for a week and it worked fine. Nor does it happen if I'm connected to Wind with 3G data and Wifi off. I wonder if this is an issue with our version of the Baseband? Is Wifi managed by the Baseband or is it in the Tegra?
Also curious what people are getting as battery life. For me:
MIUI: lasts 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - but using juice defender
Eagleblood: last 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - not using juice defender
Stock: last 10-12hr
CM7: last 9-12hr
I guess, would get similiar battery life if I tried juice defender for all ROM. I'm pretty sure MIUI would not last past 8hrs without JD.

Thanos1 said:
OK please dis-regard my previous posts. I've figured out pretty much everything I needed to know about the rooting, backing up of roms, flashing etc...
Now my final question.
Which ROM would you guys recommend at the moment? I'm definitely looking for a gingerbread ROM, and here are the things that are important to me: stability, speed, and working video calling via Gtalk. Does the CM7 nightlies fit this criteria? What about MIUI? That MIUI interface looks sweet.
Thanks everyone!
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I'm still rocking MIUI, and it will give you everything you need. But you will need to purchase Juice Defender Ultimate to get your battery through the day.
Otherwise I really like Eaglesblood based on OTA 2.3.3 Gingerbread. It's a no-frills ROM compared to MIUI. I just don't remember if Gtalk video works.

WIND user here. Just signed up 2 weeks ago. In my area i consistently get around 4-5 Mbps down and 0.5 Mbps up. However, I think they installed a new tower or did some upgrades in my area last night, because now I'm getting around 7 Mbps down. All speeds are dependent on time of day/network congestion of course. But from my research and other users' experiences, I found WIND to be consistently faster than Mobilicity which is why I chose WIND instead.
smoothmoose said:
Mobilicity welcome here too! What download speeds are you seeing on them BTW? My brother is on them but says he's only getting about 500kbps down.
Question to all Wind member as well, what are you speedtest at? For me I'm getting around:
2.5 Mbps down
800 kbps up
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Thanos1 said:
WIND user here. Just signed up 2 weeks ago. In my area i consistently get around 4-5 Mbps down and 0.5 Mbps up. However, I think they installed a new tower or did some upgrades in my area last night, because now I'm getting around 7 Mbps down. All speeds are dependent on time of day/network congestion of course. But from my research and other users' experiences, I found WIND to be consistently faster than Mobilicity which is why I chose WIND instead.
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Wow, that's fast. I'm a bit surprised as I live directly across the street from Wind's head office and I don't think I ever measured more than 3Mbps down. I get 16 ASU signal, but I guess being downtown and all the Wind employee's there the network is always pretty busy.

Ya not bad right
I live in East Toronto (Danforth area) so I'm guessing there are less WIND users or something.
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Wow, that's fast. I'm a bit surprised as I live directly across the street from Wind's head office and I don't think I ever measured more than 3Mbps down. I get 16 ASU signal, but I guess being downtown and all the Wind employee's there the network is always pretty busy.
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Btw, do any of these ROMs improve the camera in anyway? I find the stock camera a bit slow in focusing and shutter.
smoothmoose said:
OK update on the Sleep of Death (SOD) issue. FIRST is anyone else experiencing this issue. After some further observations, I'm quite certain SOD happens when the phone is on the charger, connected on Wifi-n, connected Wind network. I does NOT happen when I'm on Wifi, but connected to Wind Away (rogers) as I was in Quebec for a week and it worked fine. Nor does it happen if I'm connected to Wind with 3G data and Wifi off. I wonder if this is an issue with our version of the Baseband? Is Wifi managed by the Baseband or is it in the Tegra?
Also curious what people are getting as battery life. For me:
MIUI: lasts 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - but using juice defender
Eagleblood: last 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - not using juice defender
Stock: last 10-12hr
CM7: last 9-12hr
I guess, would get similiar battery life if I tried juice defender for all ROM. I'm pretty sure MIUI would not last past 8hrs without JD.
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Stock LG Froyo 2.2 camera? It's actually better than the stock Gingerbread 2.3 camera and CM7 camera. I do think the MIUI camera is faster startup and focus and has touch to focus as well.
I've also tried Camera360, it has a lot of cool effects, but it takes awhile to start-up and select the right menu/settings and then take a pic.

Yup, I'm currently running the stock froyo ROM (but rooted). Actually the stock camera has touch to focus, but you actually have to hold the focus area for about a second to change the target. So it's more like hold-to-focus. I've seen the MIUI camera implementation and I like it better. It has a much more pleasant and simple interface.

Just got this phone recently from Wind and found some nice deals on accesories.
Accessories:
All of the items can be pricematched at NCIX.
Case: $10.99 >> Was $4.85 @ DirectMobile but seems out of stock for the moment
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Micro USB Cable: $3.41
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Data Speed @ Downtown Toronto:
Data Speed @ Mississauga close to the airport :

[Q] Infuse 4g Performance Issue?

I've recently tried the Quadrant Standard Benchmark and noticed that my phone's score is severely lower than that of other reviewer's benchmarks? I usually score between 960-1060. Any Idea why I'm not getting into the 1100s? Even my brother's Infuse reached 1300.

Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda premium

I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?

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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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To be honest, if you're not noticing any lag then all should be fine. I recommend running a custom ROM. pretty much all the infuse roms convert your system to ext4 which is much faster than stock. If you need help with anything don't hesitate to ask, but in the right forum
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RazorWare said:
I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.

diablo009 said:
Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.
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apps running in the background can consume resources and affect the score. also rogers roms tend to score lower. it was that way on the captivate too. btw what's a build.xml? do you mean build.prop?
and to the op your score is in line with what you can expect. if you dont have any specific issues i wouldnt worry about it. quadrant is soo sensitive to atleast 2 areas (encoding/decoding media and file system reads) but not others that you can take an infuse to 4200 but it isnt gonna do too much that it didnt do before.

theROMinator said:
Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda premium
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They really don't!! Neither does Antutu or Linpack.. Gives you a different number every time LOL!! But Definitely look at some of the other roms out there! The few dev's we have left need all the support we can give them!! THANKS INFUSE DEV's!!!!

[POLL] ICS battery issues, Default OC, Hardware revision

I opened this thread to help shed some light on the battery issues that keep occurring (and many ppl trying to downgrade end up bricking because of that).
I'm not sure the leak was meant for all revisions, because some have problems running it properly.
This guy made the connection, and i think he might be on to something:
moofree said:
I think there may be two different AT&T MB865's in the wild- the originally release fcc id IHDT56MV1 approved in September 2011 and the IHDT56MV2 that passed through the FCC in January 2012.
This may explain the 1.2ghz clock on your phones, cause mine is definitely still 1.0ghz.
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You can check it if you remove battery, its on a sticker on the back.
You can check your default clock with setcpu(2.23 avaliable for free on xda), OR search for "cpu" in play store, "antutu cpu master" will show up, its free and reports same values as setcpu.
I'll start: im running V1 /default 1.2clock /no batter issues (I was bootlooping at 1.2 on GB, so i used 1125).
Please vote so we can get an idea whats happening with the clocks and why do people have battery problems !!

Well I am a V1 and 1GZ clock, NEVER over or under clocked the phone before with any of the ROMs... so, I am thinking might have something to do with it... Also no battery issues.

V1 1ghz. And I was overclocked on 2.3.6 to 1.2 battery on ics is great for me
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865

V1, 1.2. I was overclocked through Romulus 2.0 which was at 1130 if i'm not mistaken.
And I have AMAZING battery life with ICS. Much better than GB.

I've found something interesting, not sure if the guy is talking hot air though, source:
Actually the 4430 isn't overclocked in the RAZRs, it's running at 1.2GHz "Turbo" mode, an undocumented clock speed for 4430 chips tested at the factory to be stable at 1.2 GHz and run at normal temperatures. These chips are separated from the rest of the production run and sold at a premium with the 1.2 GHz "Turbo" identification.
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It really isnt documented, this is from ti.com
OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
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And the RAZR was 1.2 from day one. Considering its realease date, and the start of sampling of 4430 (ti.com says "currently sampling" as of 28 March 2011) they well had enough "Turbo certified" samples to make a phone using only those.
In short, hes story seems legit.
But why do we have two different clocks and how does the rom determine which setting its going to run on.
I dont think CPUs themselves "know" if they are certified, they are just placed in another box after the tests(being a bit vague here).
Just like some OC edition video cards; fitted with a better cooler, placed in a different retail package(with higher price).
Then again some OC video cards do get a modded bios (but not at the OEM level).
If they had a different firmware/serial numbering like desktop cpus then it would be documented and listed on the ti.com site.
But could it be that they "know" it after all? I'm not even sure these ARM SoC-s have something like a GPU bios register that tells them the voltages per states and clock rates(that they could flash while still on the test line) at all.
The reason this is interesting is that if its burned in on an individual chip level, the hw revision holds no relevance at all.
OR There could be some test after first install and it falls back to 1.0 if you get a reboot... obviously I didnt stumble into this and it wouldn't seem like a professional method from motorola at all.
Anyone running 1.0 carefully watching(and remembering, lol) the process could clear this one up though.

I'm on V1, setcpu is reading 1 ghz, I think my battery on ics seems OK, maybe drains a slight slight bit faster than before, but maybe that's my imagination!
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V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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dicksteele said:
V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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big ach said:
You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.

I had a v1 and ICS was clocked @1200 for me. I have never been that high - always got unstable around 1175 on gb - but it was smooth as butter on ics.. recovery operations were so damn quick.
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My phone is V1 and I used to run at 1.335 on GB. I am now clocked at 1.0 ghz by default on ICS.

jimbridgman said:
Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.
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No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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big ach said:
No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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So far, I haven't gotten a single app to show me the disable button, just force stop and uninstall.
My battery life is GARBAGE. I used to get 18 hours + on a single charge, but now I barely make it 12 hours.

V1 - 1000 Ghz - Battery Problems
Even though I didn't install the ICS leak, I wanted to chime in because I've been having battery issues for some weeks/months.
When I bought the phone the battery worked well. After the 2.3.6 update the battery lasted even longer than before. So I was happy and everything. Now a few weeks/months ago I get to the end of the night with only 20% or 10%. Sometimes it even dies! I tried everything, even replacing the battery, and nothing, still poor battery.

I think battery life is also subjective. There should be a standard as to what is good or bad. I have used my phone pretty heavily today with wifi on and im at 9 hrs and 30% remaining. This seems okay to me, but I noticed some people getting over 24 hrs on a charge so maybe half a day isn't that great.
My battery life is definitely better on ICS though. And it's also possible some of you are playing with all the fun stuff involving ICS for long periods of time which is making the battery die faster then boring GB where it stays in your pocket the whole day.
Anyway, I have a V1 and i'm at 1 ghz, ICS is noticeably faster. In GB I could run as high as 1.25ghz, and I would overclock using a script, not an overclocked ROM

I'm v1 clocked at 1.2 ics leak. I bootlooped at 1.2 on gb. At first I thought my battery wasn't right. Seemed to charge really slowly. After a couple cycles though I'm pretty happy with it. I have basically the same battery life as before.
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I was using Remus on gd.
I uninstalled all the at&t bloat with no problem.
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[email protected], no battery issues.
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has anyone else noticed that no one with a v2 has even voted? are we sure there is a v2? lol

where do i check my a2 versioN?

fromanbr said:
where do i check my a2 versioN?
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under the battery look at the fcc number and compare to first post.

[Q] Satisfaction with N5?

I've got a few questions about the N5 if you folks don't mind answering. Any input would be greatly appreciated
How satisfied are you with your N5, both in terms of the body and performance? Easy to operate with one hand?
What is the default DPI? My Moto G is 320, wishing it was better than that.
I've got a Moto G, and I have enough system UI FCs with both the CM and Paranoid ROM that it is quite annoying and I am back on stock, unrooted (since I never can find flashable zips of the stock ROMs). Even like that if I dirty flash the latest RC/M release. How stable are the RC/M releases of CM and Paranoid on the N5? Any kinds of errors or problems of any sort?
How good is the battery life? I don't have a data plan, don't make very many calls (less than one a day on average and then they are normally only a few minutes), and barely use GPS/Bluetooth, so the only battery drain would be using apps and wifi. I'd say I probably use anywhere from 3-5 hours of on screen time on a heavy days use, based on the battery stats I see when I check it on my Moto G from time to time.
If I root the N5, without flashing a custom ROM or recovery, can it still receive OTA Android updates?
Does Google have a good history of supporting it's older devices with OS updates (all nexus, even the old school ones before the Nexus 4, and GPE type devices, for example)? Afterall, I don't want to buy it and find out that a year from now Google won't be upgrading it to the latest OS. I know there are always custom ROMs to accomplish that, but I know sometimes they aren't always as stable when a device doesn't have an official OS upgrade released.

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What is the default DPI? My Moto G is 320, wishing it was better than that.
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I'm not answering most of your questions because they've all been answered before.
This question though, doesn't make sense. DPI isn't better or worse. Perhaps you don't understand what DPI is so I'll help with that.
dpi explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51520848
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rootSU said:
I'm not answering most of your questions because they've all been answered before.
This question though, doesn't make sense. DPI isn't better or worse. Perhaps you don't understand what DPI is so I'll help with that.
dpi explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51520848
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Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.

1. extremely satisfied, really. in cant say anything bad about it.
2. there are much better roms than cm or paranoid. stop looking at whats popular, as popular is rarely best.
3. i see 5 hours screen on time every day. but battery life is determined by how youy personally use the phone, how you personally set it up, what apps you use, and very much the quality of data/phone signal that you get.
4. if you root your phone, without changing any files at all, you can receive and apply an ota. but once you change 1 file, you wont be able to flash an ota. but thats ok, you can always flash manually.
5. google has an extraordinary history of supporting its devices. we have even had google engineers help us with nexus devices on xda before
about stability and roms, nexus devices arent like the others. the public source is always available to a nexus, so no modding needed. on older devices, that google has stopped supporting, aosp will still work on them, its only the binaries that dont get pushed out anymore.
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Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
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now see, you see that as "better", where i see that as far worse.

simms22 said:
about stability and roms, nexus devices arent like the others. the public source is always available to a nexus, so no modding needed. on older devices, that google has stopped supporting, aosp will still work on them, its only the binaries that dont get pushed out anymore.
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So do the binaries not getting updated effect the ability to give a complete OS upgrade?

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So do the binaries not getting updated effect the ability to give a complete OS upgrade?
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in a way, yes, as the binaries will never get updated. but in another way no, as on the gnex, nexus s, and nexus one actually they are just reusing the older binaries with the new os versions.

simms22 said:
in a way, yes, as the binaries will never get updated. but in another way no, as on the gnex, nexus s, and nexus one actually they are just reusing the older binaries with the new os versions.
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So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?

scottharris4 said:
So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
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new features, code?
yea, changing anything will prevent you from flashing an ota. youll still receive the ota, just wont be able to flash it. again, its extremely easy to flash it manually, you dont have to look for otas. manually, you can even flash the new update even before you get the ota. and you dont need root to flash manually.

scottharris4 said:
So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
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Mann you're thinking too much. If you can wait, I'll surely suggest you to look into the next possible nexus codenamed "Shamu" which has entered the rumorland.
Yes, it would. DPI needs to be changed in the build.prop file which is a system file.

vin4yak said:
Mann you're thinking too much. If you can wait, I'll surely suggest you to look into the next possible nexus codenamed "Shamu" which has entered the rumorland.
Yes, it would. DPI needs to be changed in the build.prop file which is a system file.
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If the rumor is true about the screen size of the Nexus 6, that thing is going to be too damn big for my liking.

I like everything about the nexus 5 EXCEPT: LTE problems. Signal stability in LTE is poor. Sometimes with LTE on, I cannot make a phone call or get "data not available" errors. A power down/up fixes the problem (sometimes toggling airplane mode also fixes but not always). Everywhere I get 1 bar of LTE I get 3bars or better with my Blackberry Q10 phone. Where I get 3-4 bars of LTE on the Nexus, download speeds of 33MB/sec while I get 47 MB/Sec with my Blackberry.
And that is my only issue as I like the Nexus 5 in all other aspects.
Neither Google nor TMO could fix this LTE issue (it is a known issue if you check the web but TMO says it is not a known issue). I am waiting for a callback from Google-they will probably send me another (which most likely won't work well either).
I have a stock OS (4.4.4), bootloader unlocked, rooted and have installed Xposed modules (Gravity, Xblast ).

AndroidMilos said:
I like everything about the nexus 5 EXCEPT: LTE problems. Signal stability in LTE is poor. Sometimes with LTE on, I cannot make a phone call or get "data not available" errors. A power down/up fixes the problem (sometimes toggling airplane mode also fixes but not always). Everywhere I get 1 bar of LTE I get 3bars or better with my Blackberry Q10 phone. Where I get 3-4 bars of LTE on the Nexus, download speeds of 33MB/sec while I get 47 MB/Sec with my Blackberry.
And that is my only issue as I like the Nexus 5 in all other aspects.
Neither Google nor TMO could fix this LTE issue (it is a known issue if you check the web but TMO says it is not a known issue). I am waiting for a callback from Google-they will probably send me another (which most likely won't work well either).
I have a stock OS (4.4.4), bootloader unlocked, rooted and have installed Xposed modules (Gravity, Xblast ).
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its NOT an issue with the phone, it could very well be an issue with your local network. oh, and you cant compare bars.. first, those bars tell you about phone signal, not data. secondly, every manufacturer use their own codes for the bars. one phones 1 bar could be equal to another phones 3 bars. oh, and xposed causes many undocumented issues. depending what you are using it for, it might very well play a role in your issues.

scottharris4 said:
Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
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Yes but the moto g is a different phone with a different PPI. Knowing the DPI of the nexus 5 tells you nothing. But you can still change it.
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So satisfied I just bought another one.

Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...

Fabiceju said:
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
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What's wrong with the camera?

Fabiceju said:
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
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whats wrong with the camera? and the battery?
battery life is all about how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and the quality of your phone/data connection. if that quality is only so so, then no matter what you do, your battery life will only be so so.
and some images from the past 48 hours.. maybe you need a lesson about how to use the camera?
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whats wrong with the camera? and the battery?
battery life is all about how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and the quality of your phone/data connection. if that quality is only so so, then no matter what you do, your battery life will only be so so.
and some images from the past 48 hours.. maybe you need a lesson about how to use the camera?
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About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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Fabiceju said:
About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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i know its a thing that continues to be told over and over.. kernels wont improve your battery life. its an untruth. if it was true, every single person would be using the same "magic" kernel. i will get the exact same battery life on any kernel. regardless if it has "battery saving" code included or not. if you set up your cpu, on any kernel, the same, you'll get the same battery life. and my battery life is great, i get 5 hours screen on time no matter what. thats more than most lg g2 users get, and thats a 3000mah battery. it doesnt matter if you use apps like greenify or not, if your setup or phone/data signals arent good, youll have lousy battery life.
about the cam.. the camera isnt some expensive camera for professional use, its a mobile phone camera. and its not the top mobile phone camera either. but it is near the top, and takes great photos. if you are a person that actually knows how to use a camera, not just point and click, then the camera should should be quite more than just adequate for you. give me a camera, even the worst, and ill privide you with great photos.

Fabiceju said:
About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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I totally agree with you.. I didn't want to be rude with you.. I'm not an expert with camera settings
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