I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I ran the first quadrant within thirty minutes of getting the phone, and it scored 2554 or something like that.
Just ran one and scored... 2463
you have to realize this is the same chip as the XOOM and Atrix but its powering a lower resolution so the quadrant scores will be higher BUT you're at a lower resolution. I have a Xoom and it gets 1800 while this gets 2500. I'd rather have a higher resolution than a higher score. Still you shouldn't have any problems playing games on here.
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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Nobody seems to be getting hung up in this thread?
mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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After scoring 1700 with my Legend with data2ext, I realized that Quadrant scores don't necessarily don't mean much. What I want to see is how much this phone scores in GLBenchmark.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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I don't get your point. How does it mean nothing but also means it's fast? It's a benchmark test. The point of it is to gauge performance, nothing more. Would you have bought one if it scored 850? After all... its a meaningless number.
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Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
atkhobby said:
This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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Oh? That's quite interesting news to me, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer actually that its not ASOP, I was looking forward to that. Let's hope the cut is shallow and easy to clean.
I hear CM7 is running on x2x so this all may become moot?
Sorry, I didn't read further.. I see the answers here in the forum. Please ignore this post
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Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
luckycook82 said:
Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
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In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
djmcnz said:
In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
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Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
jlevy73 said:
Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
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Just one run...
quadrant score
My quadrant score with pauls modaco rom is 3200+ which i am extremely happy with. on stock rom i was getting 26-2700.
>_<
O2x owners get the hell out of our forum! Your devices are programmed differently than ours, you've most likely tweaked your devices in some way (who comes to XDA and does not do so?), and you're confusing the situation.
Out of the box, the G2x from T-MOBILE USA scores about 2400-2500 on Quadrant. End of story.
Related
Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
(1 post, cant post any link so just remove the space in between)
It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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That's nice.
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Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
(1 post, cant post any link so just remove the space in between)
It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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Exciting to hear, and certainly more legitimate than the dumb 780mhz hoax.
Edit: LOL, Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚'s picture is hilarious.
Don't be expecting much out of it.....
"increases application execution speed by up to three times"
That REALLY is NOT that hard to do. You will note that they do NOT say 3-times across the board! It means that they found at least ONE glitch somewhere where something was running slower than it had to, and in THAT CASE, it results in a speedup with a factor of 3. Note that this particular speedup might result in a SLOW DOWN somewhere else (if they are morons). Second, this "Myriad" doesn't make me feel at all warm or fuzzy -- it feels like proprietary locked-in type nonsense. You know, they kind where this group of douchebags is trying to take over the entire platform by intentionally introducing proprietary incompatibilities.
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Don't be expecting much out of it.....
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+1
Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind
Pfeffernuss said:
+1
Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind
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major performance boost or no, work like this is what makes Android great. This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device and I, for one, am very pleased at this (pre-)announcement.
can't wait to see some benchmarks.
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This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device....
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No it isn't. This is just some proprietary junk. If it were OHA at work, you'd see contributions being pushed back to the AOSP, which I guarantee you will NOT see here. All this is is a private fork of AOSP/dalvik that those douchebags are trying to SELL.
Myriad whosawhatsit is a founding member of the OHA, folks. I don't know what, precisely, this "Dalvik Turbo" is -- but I //do// know that Myriad was one of the companies involved in developing Dalvik itself. They specialize in virtual machine development.
I //suspect// that this is some special JIT process. But they then turn around and claim that the memory signature impact is low as well. So... who can say?
Sweet deal, buuuut.....
this should be interesting, it seems to me that we have an influx of tools, mods, scripts and hacks and no real new roms. I guess its in part due to the fact that too much is coming out too quick for it to all get implemented. We'll see how it goes.... Hopefully in the next couple weeks we'll see this and all the overclocking hacks integrated into some cool new roms.
So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.
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That's nice.
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****ING ROFL, +1 for you Zalgo.
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So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.
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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.
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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.
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Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744
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Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744
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Thanks a million, I hope this will help game emulators out a bit.
No need to speculate about this as we will see one way or the other next week at MWC. Also guys lets not drag the OC debate into this thread as it's OT and there is enough flame in the thread dedicated for it.
I miss some facts for the "turbo vm".
it could be:
- optimize code (3x faster only with special benchmark...)
- jit compiler (longer startup times)
- jit + store the compiled code (seen on IBM mainframes)
- hot spot compiler (like the actual sun jvm)
I get a
Formatting SYSTEM:...
Copying files...
E:Can't symlink /system/xbin/bb/[[
E:Failure at line 59:
symlink /system/xbin/busybox SYSTEM:xbin/bb/[
Installation aborted.
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after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.
RFE said:
I get a
after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.
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What you guys got... Run What you Brung!! Lets see Who Can Win. No Cheating!! I use Quadrant Advance as it shows all of your CPU, IO, 2D, 3D, memory. I Will set the bar HIGH. Lets Go!! 3865!! WHAT!!
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Quardrant schmrandt. ....
oh well. people never will learn.
Put up or Shut Up. The Faster your ROM & Kernal Will Show in your Score. This Post Is Not For The Trolls Or Skeptics. Many of us Love to run Quadrants. I have many HIGH Scores such as this. What you Got?
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Put up or Shut Up. The Faster your ROM & Kernal Will Show in your Score. This Post Is Not For The Trolls Or Skeptics. Many of us Love to run Quadrants. I have many HIGH Scores such as this. What you Got?
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really you are going to go there?
1) Quadrant Scores really do not mean anything. all about how the end user feels about the ROM.
2) i am currently running the 2.3.3 leaked MySense ROM. And when it comes to how smooth it is.. it's lightyears beyond how i felt about Cyanogen(mod) or EViL's HD ROM. It's snappy responsive and works EXTREMELY well. However the quadrant is much lower than Cyanogen or EViL's ROM.
3) any developer or anyone with any amount of time under their belt will tell you that Quadrant Scores do not mean jack crap when it comes to the real world. Once again it's all about how the end user likes his or her ROM, and how smooth it is. The only people who rely on Quadrant scores are people who surf Android Central and Android and Me.
Have fun running your Quadrants, i'm not telling you not to.
I'm not a self proclaimed "troll" but i am a "realist". If you want Trolls to stay out of your Threads. Do not post them on the internet....
My UI is very fast and Smooth... BTW I am not running what is in my signature. I didnt start the thread to be a debate, but to see what people are actually achieving in Quadrant. I have seen you in many other threads and I respect your opinion.
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My UI is very fast and Smooth... BTW I am not running what is in my signature. I didnt start the thread to be a debate, but to see what people are actually achieving in Quadrant. I have seen you in many other threads and I respect your opinion.
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Thanks buddy.
I'm not hear to debate either. I guess since we can all play nice together... Running the leaked MySense ROM. Stock Kernel
i'll post a screen shot in a second. of my Quadrant. just for you....
Thanks for participating. I tried using Photobucket to enlarge my pic, but to no evail. Any ideas?
I never got close to 3000, this is my best
ROM: CyanogenMod-7.0.2-glacier
Kernel: [email protected]#1 (or the kernel that was included with the ROM )
CPU Speed: 1516mhz
CPU Govenor: Performance
@vabeach454: After I uploaded to Photobucket, I copied the IMG code and pasted it, that's how I got my image to be this size.
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ROM: Orange Glacier
Kernal:2.6.32.21-FR-Sense-Faux123-v1.0.0RC3-CFS(153)
Quadrant 2900
Linpack 63.033
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I guess I need to post more...lol
Quadrantis a pretty horrible benchmark. It's notorious for being inaccurate and giving bloated scores if you wanted a more accurate reading you should use smartbench. It's probably the best out of all of them ceptit does bias a little toward Samsung phones.
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I have no clue what to gauge the phone against everyone uses quadrant that I know and hardly anyone posts smartbench scores... but for what its worth.
I scored:
Productivity 1892
Games 1846
Is this good or bad...lol I have no clue.
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I guess I need to post more...lol
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Nice linpack!! Did you post that?
Here is another one... Look at my I/O!!! Thats Fast. Is there anyone that is even close? I am trying to break 4000!!
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I wanna know what you run to get a score like that.
My quadrant score is : 2235
on CM 7.0.2 with faux CFS low voltage kernel @ 1.2 ghz
What rom/settings are you using to get such high scores?
That's totally awesome
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I wanna know what you run to get a score like that.
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I am running a version of Ice Glacier/My Sence (EXT 2) with faux123's 0.9.9 BFS LV #137 Kernal With a LagFix. The ROM is NOT Ready for Release as I still have some work to do on it and probably will need some DEV help to do it. Any DEV's willing to help with it please PM me.
P.S. Not all Glaciers will run at these speeds, they will lock up. This is my forth HTC Glacier and it is built in China. My others were Taiwon Built and NONE of them could handle this. Fortunatly this Glacier has never locked up on me and can handle anything I can throw at it.
I have reached scores around 3600ish on Iced Glacier 1.1.6, 3200ish on CM7 and Evil's MIUI. Havent tried any of the Sense roms yet. Running stock MySense now and the scores come out pretty low, but its running really fast without any lag at all. OC at 1.8ghz smartass. Confuses me But here are some pics I just took
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I have reached scores around 3600ish on Iced Glacier 1.1.6, 3200ish on CM7 and Evil's MIUI. Havent tried any of the Sense roms yet. Running stock MySense now and the scores come out pretty low, but its running really fast without any lag at all. OC at 1.8ghz smartass. Confuses me
I get 1850 from a stock (out of the box) MT4G, so my guess is that the kernal didnt install. Your scores with faux123's kernal should be much higher.
I have not seen any Quadrant Scores that top mine yet. Not being cocky... Just waiting.
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I cant for the life of me get over 2200ish. Even with 1.8 BFS kernel. Not sure what im doing wrong here...
What ROM are you running? You should be getting much higher scores.
I've been messing with 2.3.4 and the latest radios and in places where I get 40+mbps I've been pulling 10mbps max. I have a feeling each radio update fixes connectivity but messes up the data performance.
Just reverted back to rooted OTA froyo 2.2.1 with 627r radio and the speeds are back to normal.
Anyone else seeing the same issue with the new OTA?
I can confim the reduced data speeds. My phone updated by itself.
I used to get steady 20mbps, now I'm pressed to pass 9mbps.
I will say though, the upload has improved.
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I just ran about 30 tests w mr2, 802, and 906; 10 each. All results were comparable, and nowhere near 20-40mbs. So I'm going back to 906. Why? Because its newer and bigger, and that means its better. Right?
Suburbs of Philly, all tests within my office. I'm a hard worker...
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I just ran about 30 tests w mr2, 802, and 906; 10 each. All results were comparable, and nowhere near 20-40mbs. So I'm going back to 906. Why? Because its newer and bigger, and that means its better. Right?
Suburbs of Philly, all tests within my office. I'm a hard worker...
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I've ran over 6,000 tests over the last six months and this is 100% noticeable to me. Now back to froyo and stock radios gives me exactly what I've been getting before. Not sure if I could keep stock froyo radios and one of the gingerbread ROMs..
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I don't mean to piss in your corn flakes, but I'm NOT seeing this. Not that speed tests even report remotely accurate numbers. Most of the time my downloads are WAY to fast to be supported by the numbers I get back on many of them. I have no issues getting 35 to 42 Mbit out to New York.
Allow me to explain.
Buffers in the Froyo kernel were outrageous and misleading. They caused tests to be misleading, and basically false.
The Gingerbread kernel has more reasonable buffer levels. Hence what you see is more accurate.
I can make a kernel mod that will change the buffers to see that you are getting 100 down, and 50 up. Doesn't make it true.
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Allow me to explain.
Buffers in the Froyo kernel were outrageous and misleading. They caused tests to be misleading, and basically false.
The Gingerbread kernel has more reasonable buffer levels. Hence what you see is more accurate.
I can make a kernel mod that will change the buffers to see that you are getting 100 down, and 50 up. Doesn't make it true.
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That would explain the guy who posted screen shots suggesting he was getting some stupid number like 518Mbit down.
milan03 said:
I've ran over 6,000 tests over the last six months and this is 100% noticeable to me. Now back to froyo and stock radios gives me exactly what I've been getting before. Not sure if I could keep stock froyo radios and one of the gingerbread ROMs..
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I'm not trying to upstaged you about numbers, I was just posting my results BC your op made me curious to try my own experiments.
Sheesh, this site is all 'hate hate hate' lately. This ain't the player haters ball. And if it were, I call Buck Nasty right now
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That would explain the guy who posted screen shots suggesting he was getting some stupid number like 518Mbit down.
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Haha, was it jcase trolling
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I don't mean to piss in your corn flakes, but I'm NOT seeing this. Not that speed tests even report remotely accurate numbers. Most of the time my downloads are WAY to fast to be supported by the numbers I get back on many of them. I have no issues getting 35 to 42 Mbit out to New York.
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Actually I happened to have a Pantech UML290 AirCard and when swapping SIM from Thunderbolt, I'm getting the same exact speeds as what I see on my bolt. So at the locations where I'm seeing 50-60mbps I get them on both my computer AND my Bolt using Froyo and stock radio.
Yesterday, same location, 53mbps on my computer, 9mbps on Gingerbread Bolt.
Not cool.
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Actually I happened to have a Pantech UML290 AirCard and when swapping SIM from Thunderbolt, I'm getting the same exact speeds as what I see on my bolt. So at the locations where I'm seeing 50-60mbps I get them on both my computer AND my Bolt using Froyo and stock radio.
Yesterday, same location, 53mbps on my computer, 9mbps on Gingerbread Bolt.
Not cool.
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Pssst:
Those cards have built in buffers too.
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Pssst:
Those cards have built in buffers too.
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Guys, just listen to Adrynalyne, he knows what he is talking about. If not, stay on Froyo, enjoy decreased performance and battery life but as long as you get 40MB down speed then who cares. >.>
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Pssst:
Those cards have built in buffers too.
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I get all that except the fact that downloading using pantech I get 6.4MBytes/sec vs gingerbread radios where I get 2 max usb tethered to my pc. It used to be around 6MB/sec as well.
Look I'm not trying to downplay anything here, I'm glad that people are happy with gingerbread, I'm just reporting my own findings and sharing my recorded data with you. I would love to have both, but the major reason I bought bolt is the network performance...
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milan03 said:
I get all that except the fact that downloading using pantech I get 6.4MBytes/sec vs gingerbread radios where I get 2 max usb tethered to my pc. It used to be around 6MB/sec as well.
Look I'm not trying to downplay anything here, I'm glad that people are happy with gingerbread, I'm just reporting my own findings and sharing my recorded data with you. I would love to have both, but the major reason I bought bolt is the network performance...
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You must have special service.
Most Bionic users are only seeing 9-12 as well.
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I get all that except the fact that downloading using pantech I get 6.4MBytes/sec vs gingerbread radios where I get 2 max usb tethered to my pc. It used to be around 6MB/sec as well.
Look I'm not trying to downplay anything here, I'm glad that people are happy with gingerbread, I'm just reporting my own findings and sharing my recorded data with you. I would love to have both, but the major reason I bought bolt is the network performance...
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Serial data transfer rates cannot be equated accurately to megabytes per second.
I always thought the old numbers were wonky. Speed tests on the TB would always show ~20Mb while my wifi connected Xoom would report ~9-10Mb.
Now, both the TB and the Xoom report ~9-10Mb.
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I'm getting OVER 9000!!!
It's bc I am running a super elite BAMF preview though. Sorry- I can't share any info on it...
OVER 9000 BAMF rom
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I'm getting OVER 9000!!!
It's bc I am running a super elite BAMF preview though. Sorry- I can't share any info on it...
OVER 9000 BAMF rom
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You will now be punished.
Hello. I've bought a nexus s a few days ago and I've started swapping roms.
My question is simple, how do people manage to get 4-5k quadrant scores?
Currently I'm using Pure Bionix 1.6 rom, but the maximum score I was able to get was around 3.3K.
Describe everything you do, from roms/kernels to apps closed etc.
Sorry if this is a newbie question
Install 1.6.1, then use SetCPU to OC the kernel.
That's how I achieved my 5300 quad.
You can also try other kernels as well.
YMMV
Use matrix rom amd just over clock abd run quadrant a few times back to back and you will hit 4500+
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cyanogenmod 7 + trinity 1.44
4500-5000
Oxygen 2.3.1 @ 1300Mhz ->> 4286, highest score for me with this ROM.
And I didn't do anything special to get this score, I only overclocked CPU.
Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.
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Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.
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set setcpu to 1540 max/1540 low. bench four times in a row, throw out the first 2 results, the forth should be the highest.
That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones
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That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones
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its possible that your phone doesnt like that high of a overclock. try trinity t144 kernel. also, have you updated to the most recent bionix?
I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.
No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.
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I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.
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are you using quadrant advanced or standard? if youre using quadrant advanced, could you provide a screenshot please. id really like to see the score breakdown. the score is really low. also, in the op of the Trinity thread in the development section is a dalvik-wiper.zip, would you flash it please, then try again.
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No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.
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orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.
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orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.
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While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).
So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far
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So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far
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i didnt even consider that because its included in the bionix/trinity combo. but it does have to be included in a stock rom. whats odd is, how did you lose it
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onigiri1692 said:
While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).
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you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.
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you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.
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I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.
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I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.
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real world use is all that matters, period. but quadrants are still fun to run, as long as no body is cheating. speaking of, this is from a galaxy s 2 at 1.6ghz, the nexus s has officially been dethroned from the top of quadrant.. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...-benchmarks-nearly-7800-in-quadrant-20111110/
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Any chance I could get these answered please? Would really apreciate it.
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks...0ti9020ai9023/
Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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ray7171 said:
Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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Depends, is your phone rooted? Or is it just running stock TW?
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ray7171 said:
Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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who cares Its just a number. But if it means that much to you run it several times in a row, it will eventually mess up and give you a hugh fake number You can show all your friends
I got over 30,000 once on my dx and it was still choppy!
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who cares Its just a number. But if it means that much to you run it several times in a row, it will eventually mess up and give you a hugh fake number You can show all your friends
I got over 30,000 once on my dx and it was still choppy!
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Yep, its a number, and trying to "increase" it to make the phone "faster" is dumb. If stock has a 1.5ghz clock and scored lets say 4800, Cm10 might be +/- 200 but on the same clock it cant score much higher..... without dumb modifications to fake it.
It is not dumb at all.. You are trying to optimize the performance of your phone.. Make sure battery power saving is turned off, close all applications, usually running after a fresh reboot help. Overclocking helps.
I scored this https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/527107_10151086780898557_1408887957_n.jpg
I was saying the number of 4800 as an example. And yes power saving lowers cpu clock I believe so that affects the score. I'm running a test on cm10 no overclock or anything to show what a true score is. of course overclocking makes it faster, thats not dumb but modifications geared to increase the actual score is silly.
Just got 4400.
These tools are used to give an estimate of how your device compares to other devices... That being said I am running Cleanrom/Cleankernel and get just about the same numbers all the time except for Linpack... I have my phone overclocked to 1800-1999 ghz and my scores are below but it depends on your hardware too... You might not be able to push some phones that high but mine is totally stable at these overclocks so I def have a keeper but my damn home button sticks so I am in the process of getting a replacement... Much love to Cleanrom though!! :good:
I also have no secrets as to make my score higher and even if I did that would be stupid!! IMO
Pretty much all developers will tell you quadrant and benchmarks do not (always) translate to real world performance.
That said: ROMs and kernels will affect scores.
CPU governors will affect scores
Overclocking your CPU will boost our score.
The current jellybean leaks is very fast - will give you scores of 5500+ if that's what our looking for.
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Why are people over clocking this phone? Is their anything on Android that really needs more power then a dual core S4 at 1.5ghz?
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Why are people over clocking this phone? Is their anything on Android that really needs more power then a dual core S4 at 1.5ghz?
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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
tonu42 said:
Yep, its a number, and trying to "increase" it to make the phone "faster" is dumb. If stock has a 1.5ghz clock and scored lets say 4800, Cm10 might be +/- 200 but on the same clock it cant score much higher..... without dumb modifications to fake it.
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The point is Quadrant sucks and is unreliable, I wasn't kidding when I said I got a 30,000 once....Run it a few times in a row it gets a little better as you repeat. Different biuldprop settings can also make a big difference so different ROMS could easily have vastly different scores.. You couldn't see that +/-200 in real life anyways...... admit it you just want bragging rights :highfive: cooomme onnn admit it
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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
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I run mine at 1.2 and honestly I can't tell a difference between 1.2, 1.5, and 2.1 beyond benches telling me it's faster.
Please excuse my Galaxy S III, it's a bit Paranoid.
Just for fun....I loaded unofficial cm 9/13 by invisiblek, antutu was 7383. I then loaded ktoonz kernel, it goes up to 8123 (did not overclock). There was someone oc'ed it and got >9000.
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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
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you dont belong here i think... you've missed the point entirely.
BECAUSE YOU CAN
Clienterror said:
I run mine at 1.2 and honestly I can't tell a difference between 1.2, 1.5, and 2.1 beyond benches telling me it's faster.
Please excuse my Galaxy S III, it's a bit Paranoid.
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I just run the phone at 1.0ghz to save on battery and apart from the occasional lag that comes with it, it's not that bad. Had my battery go over 2 days without a single charge due to the underclocking.
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Absolutely stock here. Don't get hung up over benchmark scores... they're only useful for comparing YOUR device before and after you make changes.
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If you REALLY want the best score (and I recommend this when you use a benchmark the right way... like I said, to measure the result of changes), restart your phone, let everything load, then run it. A bunch of background operations can and will slow things down.
But again... they're meaningless for the most part. I could run it again now and the numbers could be wildly different.
Quadrant scores mean nothing.
Maybe u guys just don't know how to test very well or thoroughly, or don't know what to look for. Benchmarks do help. If u know how to use them. No, they don't always show real world use. They should be used to determine the phones maximum. I use them for judging how well they will play through the hardest emulator game, or most intense Android game. It isn't the only thing I go by, but when figuring out new settings or trying to push a new kernel to its absolute max, it is useful as well.
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