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[Q] please post your quadrant score

I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.

mingkee said:
I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I ran the first quadrant within thirty minutes of getting the phone, and it scored 2554 or something like that.
Just ran one and scored... 2463

you have to realize this is the same chip as the XOOM and Atrix but its powering a lower resolution so the quadrant scores will be higher BUT you're at a lower resolution. I have a Xoom and it gets 1800 while this gets 2500. I'd rather have a higher resolution than a higher score. Still you shouldn't have any problems playing games on here.

Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...

These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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Nobody seems to be getting hung up in this thread?

mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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After scoring 1700 with my Legend with data2ext, I realized that Quadrant scores don't necessarily don't mean much. What I want to see is how much this phone scores in GLBenchmark.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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I don't get your point. How does it mean nothing but also means it's fast? It's a benchmark test. The point of it is to gauge performance, nothing more. Would you have bought one if it scored 850? After all... its a meaningless number.

djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.

atkhobby said:
This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?

djmcnz said:
It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?

MWBehr said:
I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.

djmcnz said:
I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.

MWBehr said:
I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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Oh? That's quite interesting news to me, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer actually that its not ASOP, I was looking forward to that. Let's hope the cut is shallow and easy to clean.
I hear CM7 is running on x2x so this all may become moot?

Sorry, I didn't read further.. I see the answers here in the forum. Please ignore this post
djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks

luckycook82 said:
Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
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In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic

djmcnz said:
In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
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Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?

jlevy73 said:
Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
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Just one run...

quadrant score
My quadrant score with pauls modaco rom is 3200+ which i am extremely happy with. on stock rom i was getting 26-2700.

>_<
O2x owners get the hell out of our forum! Your devices are programmed differently than ours, you've most likely tweaked your devices in some way (who comes to XDA and does not do so?), and you're confusing the situation.
Out of the box, the G2x from T-MOBILE USA scores about 2400-2500 on Quadrant. End of story.

I think AT&T is on to us...

I don't know if this is just a local issue but it looks like the upload data speeds are getting throttled.
So here are some speed samples using CM7 (latest stable)
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And here is some from earlier today using a new AOSP ROM

inthewoods said:
I don't know if this is just a local issue but it looks like the data speeds are getting throttled.
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Speeds are still fine here. Probably just an issue in your area. The Tulsa market is always varying widely between 1Mb/s and 6 Mb/s. Fastest speeds are usually after midnight when traffic volumes are lower.

i just ran a test in the bronx and i got 2.84 down and .19 up. i had a similar issue yesterday but i thought it was teh network.
why would they do this now though, wehn they just releaesd an update to enable hsupa on stock roms...?

Yeah the download is fine... it's the upload that seems to be throttled (or very inconstant).

Nothing has changed. And I know for a fact that they are installing a **** ton of circuits daily to help the backhaul issue. There are too many variables to even guess why your speedtests app is giving you low numbers. I will say that they are doing lots of work so maybe its related ?
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stickbo said:
Nothing has changed. And I know for a fact that they are installing a **** ton of circuits daily to help the backhaul issue. There are too many variables to even guess why your speedtests app is giving you low numbers. I will say that they are doing lots of work so maybe its related ?
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This is most likely.

I'm on CM7 7.0.3 and hit 2.8Mbps down and 1.2Mbps up.

I find the speedtest results to vary widely from test to test. Not sure if that's the network, the application, the weather, solar flares or cows jumping over the moon, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions without a long-term test. Just over a week ago I made a post asking about losy signal - turns out AT&T was upgrading the cell sites. Now I'm getting over 5MB down and 1.5 up. So be careful you don't go on a wild goose chase.

BillTheCat said:
I find the speedtest results to vary widely from test to test. Not sure if that's the network, the application, the weather, solar flares or cows jumping over the moon, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions without a long-term test. Just over a week ago I made a post asking about losy signal - turns out AT&T was upgrading the cell sites. Now I'm getting over 5MB down and 1.5 up. So be careful you don't go on a wild goose chase.
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+1
I was all set to flash another radio, because my signal was jumping around real bad.
Last couple of days, though, its stabilized.
Now watch, as soon as I post this, it'll start bouncing around again.
Inspired Ace 1.0.1¦ XDA Premium

I wonder about the phone itself. I notice that My bars are constantly going up and down and I am not even moving. I also notice WIFI signal strength jumps around the same way. /Shrug...

I know chasing speed test can be a wild goose chase... I have satellite internet at home and dealing with speed issues is normal part of the day.
With that said I've noticed lately the my generally good upload speeds have seem to be restricted. Is it coincidence the slowdown is at a time when AT&T is rolling out updates to users... maybe who knows.

1. Tests vary. Fact of life.
2. It's AT&T... don't expect much and you won't be surprised.
Sent from my HTC Inspire using XDA app.

The thread title should be:
"We are on to AT&T."
Give us upload speed faster than 3G!

knarfl1 said:
The thread title should be:
"We are on to AT&T."
Give us upload speed faster than 3G!
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Yup i agree with op. My download speeds are just fine like 3-5 mbps. Upload speeds are down from 1.2 last month to .1 mbps this month

knarfl1 said:
The thread title should be:
"We are on to AT&T."
Give us upload speed faster than 3G!
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Amen to that!

att is on to us?? What does that even mean? They just released an update that ALLOWS hsupa. What is there for them to be suspicious about and take action to throttle our upload speeds?

nhshah7 said:
i just ran a test in the bronx and i got 2.84 down and .19 up. i had a similar issue yesterday but i thought it was teh network.
why would they do this now though, wehn they just releaesd an update to enable hsupa on stock roms...?
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ran another test after midnight in upper manhattan and got 4 down 1.6 up so no issues. probably location/traffic based throttling?

buddy17 said:
att is on to us?? What does that even mean? They just released an update that ALLOWS hsupa. What is there for them to be suspicious about and take action to throttle our upload speeds?
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Us as in us rooted users who mess with APN settings and/or the build.prop file

I can't find a good way to flash a new radio and get to stay on cm7 or whatever to get faster speeds
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Speeds wildly vary from place to place. Just moving a feet feet even makes a huge difference. This is why AT&T is trying to buy T-Mobile...to have the needed bandwidth to stabilize their data network.

Got 5.4mb/s after update.

Just wanted to show off. How do I take a screen shot if im not rooted. All the apps in the market say you need root.

Use a digital camera...

There's a way with the SDK, but I don't remember how to do it.

Using the sdk is easy. Once you download it, you can have it setup and working in under ten minutes. It's a pain to have to do it this way, but if you don't want to root, it is a viable option.
http://www.androidcentral.com/taking-screenshots-without-root

Ok, ill just do this....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/56078630.png

So would I just be showing you up if I didn't do update and got over 7 mbps? Lol honestly first time happened for me. I think att upgrading here since it randomly gets terrible then this...
I'm using one of Adams roms. Says name in sig not sure if that helps.. never have changed my radio since whatever it put during rooting process.
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Also why does XDA App upload such crap quality?
while tethering i got this and this picture is actually able to be read lol.

Nice! My ping is still better though

Sorry to burst your bubble....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/56266821.png

Did you get the latest sideloading update or just the hsupa update?
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

Just the hsupa, had to download it over wifi
Software v. 1.84.502.11

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BAleR said:
Sorry to burst your bubble....
http://www.speedtest.net/android/56266821.png
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Lol i was just saying I got same without update. I had a 98 ping Sometimes the unreadable picture was on my phone and was 7.3 mbps lol. But anyway just happy getting better

Lol well i guess i forgot lol but ya, it is pretty good, im happy... for the most part....

The sad thing is I ran a speed test on my old iPhone 4 (used by my wife now). First test right off the bat I got 5.2 MB/s down LOL. The "4G" Inspires aren't much faster than the "3G" iPhone 4's due to AT&T's bull****. If I recall correctly the iPhone 4 is HSPA but not HSPA+. The Inspire is theoretically capable of 14.4 MB/s but we're only getting half that if we're lucky. Only when AT&T gets true 4G (LTE) will we start to see the 4G LTE phones start to pull away speed wise. Anyway, 2-4 MB/s is more than enough for most typical smart phone tasks, these days anyway.

henrybravo said:
The sad thing is I ran a speed test on my old iPhone 4 (used by my wife now). First test right off the bat I got 5.2 MB/s down LOL. The "4G" Inspires aren't much faster than the "3G" iPhone 4's due to AT&T's bull****. If I recall correctly the iPhone 4 is HSPA but not HSPA+. The Inspire is theoretically capable of 14.4 MB/s but we're only getting half that if we're lucky. Only when AT&T gets true 4G (LTE) will we start to see the 4G LTE phones start to pull away speed wise. Anyway, 2-4 MB/s is more than enough for most typical smart phone tasks, these days anyway.
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I think everybody streatches the truth(carriers), but it is "mobile" technology but ya 2-3 is just about right, but in this same area my bros iphone4 only gets 1-2 so i was just impressed a lil at first, my G2 in this same area got 8 at best but 7 constantly in my house. 5 when im out and about. And just wondering what type of network is this phone really using? What is umts?

Was wondering what sideloader update? I get roughly 6.5mbps here by the Texas motor speedway.
I have a HTC inspire 4g
Using coredroid 6.6
Also wondering what does overclocking do to your phone?
I have no-frills
And also what does the governer do?
On there is has choices for smartass. What is that????
And many others would someone please let me know what they are and how to properly use them please.
One more thing.... Do they upload ROMS on here for the mobile application?
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yatyas2141 said:
Was wondering what sideloader update? I get roughly 6.5mbps here by the Texas motor speedway.
I have a HTC inspire 4g
Using coredroid 6.6
Also wondering what does overclocking do to your phone?
I have no-frills
And also what does the governer do?
On there is has choices for smartass. What is that????
And many others would someone please let me know what they are and how to properly use them please.
One more thing.... Do they upload ROMS on here for the mobile application?
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-Are you wondering what "sideloader update is"? are are you asking what update did I get?
-Overclocking just raises your CPU to speeds that your phone wasnt originally intended to do. It will make your phone a bit snappier and some things will run faster, but you must be very careful not to raise the CPU level too far, you could damage your phone permanently.
-To overclock you must have a custom "kernel" with the ability to "overclock". If you have flashed a custom rom then chances are you have one. Or you can download one and flash it after the rom, BUT, make sure it is compatible with your rom or could get bootloops and have to restore a backup. ALAWAYS MAKE BACKUPS WITH CLOCKWORK! they will save your life!
-The governer, in my understanding, just tells the CPU what speeds and frequencies to use and when to use them, i always just imagine a highway of cars, the cars would be the information, and the highway the paths to where the information goes, the governer just manages all this information in ways to conserve battery life or just speed things up, Smartass is a Schedular that somebody made that manages it all verry well. and kindof revolutionized linux systems.. or is that BFS?
- Just use smartass as your daily governer. Make a profile for SCREEN OFF in setcpu, use powersave or conservative and put the CPU speeds at 245/345 or somethin low like that. and you should be good.

WHat update? the hsupa update??lol that was like a month ago....

It says I have hsdpa... Am I supposed to have hsupa? I have a inspire 4g running coredroid 6.7. Help please
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LOL you guys are getting those speeds cuz you're from oklahoma

nhshah7 said:
LOL you guys are getting those speeds cuz you're from oklahoma
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What does that mean? Not as much polution to distort our signals?

Wind Mobile Optimus 2X (P999) users UNITE

Call out to all Wind Mobile Optimus 2X (P999 G2x) users! I wanted to start a thread to share our UNIQUE experiences with our O2x-G2x phone, that is unique to Wind and our network here in Canada. I know there will be overlap with other threads, but I thought it would useful to have information in one place.
Let's start talking about our experiences with:
- ROMs and Kernels
- Common Issues/bugs
- Network/Reception
- Accessories
- etc, etc.
I'll give it start:
ROM
MIUI 1.8.19 (Current - jface release)
Kernel: Dragon
(+) Slickest GUI out there, fast, most features, very iPhone-ish
(-) Battery life blows (but better with Dragon kernel and Juice Defender), very iPhone-ish
Previous
- MIUI 1.8.26 (whitehawkx release)
(-) data does not work (abandoned)
- EaglesBlood 1.08
(+) rock solid ROM, best battery life
(-) a few FC bugs, very plain vanilla
- CM7 dailies
(+) fast, better features than stock
(-) quite a few minor bugs and annoyances, battery life is OK
- Stock Froyo
(+) pretty stable
(-) slower, BLAH it's stock
COMMON ISSUES
Sleep of Death while on charger - need battery pull to reset (happens on all ROMs)
GPS locktime FIXED - changed SUPL server to supl.google.com
Crappy battery life - using Juice Defender and CPU tuner
NETWORK
Solid for downtown Toronto - some issues with indoors
Canada Roaming on Rogers works out of the box
US Roaming on T-mobile works out of the box
ACCESORIES
Soft touch firm plastic case from Pacific mall $6
micro-HDMI cable and external battery pack from Monoprice (not happy with either)
extra wall charger and car charger from eBay (jury still out)
Looking forward to the feedback of others on Wind.

Your phone is not unique. It is not an O2X in any way. It is exactly the same as the T-Mobile G2X with the Qualcomm baseband chip. The only difference is you have a Wind Mobile branded ROM with less bloatware. Don't confuse your device with an O2X. Any developments for the O2X will never apply to your device. You can use the KDZ updater to load the T-Mobile GB ROM to solve many of your problems. Then when the Wind Mobile update comes out and someone posts the KDZ file you can run the KDZ program again to install the new Wind Mobile GB ROM.

OP wasn't saying that the phone is unique, he was sharing his experience with different ROMs and Wind Mobile network. All the threads on XDA seem to be related to T-Mobile so I do appreciate this thread.

What's up fellow WIND users. I was just wondering if you guys could point me to a step-by-step to load a gingerbread ROM? It's been a year since I last did this stuff (used to have a rooted Nexus One) so everything is a bit rusty .
Also, how's the battery life on your rooted 2x's? My stock 2x lasts about a day with heavy use, which is not bad by smartphone standards i guess. Im hopin to get a bit better battery life with a gingerbread ROM (any suggestions which one to flash?).
Thanks all!

Btw, I'm trying to install clockwork recovery mod and i'm on the step where I have to choose my phone. Is the WIND model the T-mobile G2x or the standard LG Optimus 2x?
EDIT: figured it out

Thanos1 said:
Btw, I'm trying to install clockwork recovery mod and i'm on the step where I have to choose my phone. Is the WIND model the T-mobile G2x or the standard LG Optimus 2x?
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choose the tmo g2x version (p-999)
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OK please dis-regard my previous posts. I've figured out pretty much everything I needed to know about the rooting, backing up of roms, flashing etc...
Now my final question.
Which ROM would you guys recommend at the moment? I'm definitely looking for a gingerbread ROM, and here are the things that are important to me: stability, speed, and working video calling via Gtalk. Does the CM7 nightlies fit this criteria? What about MIUI? That MIUI interface looks sweet.
Thanks everyone!

Mobilicity g2x up in this biatch here
When I got this phone from Usa, the nexus s was still new to Canada so everyone went holy **** when the saw.the.g2x) )
Used roms:
Stock rooted froyo - extremely stable and fast. Battery good. Rocked this when cm7 were still fresh and were giving me reboots.
CM7 Nightlies- stable, fast, nice customization options. Battery about the same as stock, Not much ui things in it tho.
WEAPON G2X - stable, fast, battery good, awesome customization of launchers and lockscreens.
So far I've used those, I know there's more and kernels but I haven't played around with that yet. So far this beast killed everything I threw at it so iverclocking is unnecessarry at this point.
Holla at me on the bus when u see me rockin my g2x and big a$$ black headphones.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

Thanks for the reply! So I'm guessing the CM7 nightlies and Weapon G2x have no problem with Gtalk video calling?
noobletsausecakebbq said:
Mobilicity g2x up in this biatch here
When I got this phone from Usa, the nexus s was still new to Canada so everyone went holy **** when the saw.the.g2x) )
Used roms:
Stock rooted froyo - extremely stable and fast. Battery good. Rocked this when cm7 were still fresh and were giving me reboots.
CM7 Nightlies- stable, fast, nice customization options. Battery about the same as stock, Not much ui things in it tho.
WEAPON G2X - stable, fast, battery good, awesome customization of launchers and lockscreens.
So far I've used those, I know there's more and kernels but I haven't played around with that yet. So far this beast killed everything I threw at it so iverclocking is unnecessarry at this point.
Holla at me on the bus when u see me rockin my g2x and big a$$ black headphones.
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Mobilicity welcome here too! What download speeds are you seeing on them BTW? My brother is on them but says he's only getting about 500kbps down.
Question to all Wind member as well, what are you speedtest at? For me I'm getting around:
2.5 Mbps down
800 kbps up

smoothmoose said:
COMMON ISSUES
Sleep of Death while on charger - need battery pull to reset (happens on all ROMs)
GPS locktime FIXED - changed SUPL server to supl.google.com
Crappy battery life - using Juice Defender and CPU tuner
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OK update on the Sleep of Death (SOD) issue. FIRST is anyone else experiencing this issue. After some further observations, I'm quite certain SOD happens when the phone is on the charger, connected on Wifi-n, connected Wind network. I does NOT happen when I'm on Wifi, but connected to Wind Away (rogers) as I was in Quebec for a week and it worked fine. Nor does it happen if I'm connected to Wind with 3G data and Wifi off. I wonder if this is an issue with our version of the Baseband? Is Wifi managed by the Baseband or is it in the Tegra?
Also curious what people are getting as battery life. For me:
MIUI: lasts 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - but using juice defender
Eagleblood: last 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - not using juice defender
Stock: last 10-12hr
CM7: last 9-12hr
I guess, would get similiar battery life if I tried juice defender for all ROM. I'm pretty sure MIUI would not last past 8hrs without JD.

Thanos1 said:
OK please dis-regard my previous posts. I've figured out pretty much everything I needed to know about the rooting, backing up of roms, flashing etc...
Now my final question.
Which ROM would you guys recommend at the moment? I'm definitely looking for a gingerbread ROM, and here are the things that are important to me: stability, speed, and working video calling via Gtalk. Does the CM7 nightlies fit this criteria? What about MIUI? That MIUI interface looks sweet.
Thanks everyone!
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I'm still rocking MIUI, and it will give you everything you need. But you will need to purchase Juice Defender Ultimate to get your battery through the day.
Otherwise I really like Eaglesblood based on OTA 2.3.3 Gingerbread. It's a no-frills ROM compared to MIUI. I just don't remember if Gtalk video works.

WIND user here. Just signed up 2 weeks ago. In my area i consistently get around 4-5 Mbps down and 0.5 Mbps up. However, I think they installed a new tower or did some upgrades in my area last night, because now I'm getting around 7 Mbps down. All speeds are dependent on time of day/network congestion of course. But from my research and other users' experiences, I found WIND to be consistently faster than Mobilicity which is why I chose WIND instead.
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Mobilicity welcome here too! What download speeds are you seeing on them BTW? My brother is on them but says he's only getting about 500kbps down.
Question to all Wind member as well, what are you speedtest at? For me I'm getting around:
2.5 Mbps down
800 kbps up
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Thanos1 said:
WIND user here. Just signed up 2 weeks ago. In my area i consistently get around 4-5 Mbps down and 0.5 Mbps up. However, I think they installed a new tower or did some upgrades in my area last night, because now I'm getting around 7 Mbps down. All speeds are dependent on time of day/network congestion of course. But from my research and other users' experiences, I found WIND to be consistently faster than Mobilicity which is why I chose WIND instead.
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Wow, that's fast. I'm a bit surprised as I live directly across the street from Wind's head office and I don't think I ever measured more than 3Mbps down. I get 16 ASU signal, but I guess being downtown and all the Wind employee's there the network is always pretty busy.

Ya not bad right
I live in East Toronto (Danforth area) so I'm guessing there are less WIND users or something.
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Wow, that's fast. I'm a bit surprised as I live directly across the street from Wind's head office and I don't think I ever measured more than 3Mbps down. I get 16 ASU signal, but I guess being downtown and all the Wind employee's there the network is always pretty busy.
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Btw, do any of these ROMs improve the camera in anyway? I find the stock camera a bit slow in focusing and shutter.
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OK update on the Sleep of Death (SOD) issue. FIRST is anyone else experiencing this issue. After some further observations, I'm quite certain SOD happens when the phone is on the charger, connected on Wifi-n, connected Wind network. I does NOT happen when I'm on Wifi, but connected to Wind Away (rogers) as I was in Quebec for a week and it worked fine. Nor does it happen if I'm connected to Wind with 3G data and Wifi off. I wonder if this is an issue with our version of the Baseband? Is Wifi managed by the Baseband or is it in the Tegra?
Also curious what people are getting as battery life. For me:
MIUI: lasts 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - but using juice defender
Eagleblood: last 12-15hr with moderate/heavy use - not using juice defender
Stock: last 10-12hr
CM7: last 9-12hr
I guess, would get similiar battery life if I tried juice defender for all ROM. I'm pretty sure MIUI would not last past 8hrs without JD.
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Stock LG Froyo 2.2 camera? It's actually better than the stock Gingerbread 2.3 camera and CM7 camera. I do think the MIUI camera is faster startup and focus and has touch to focus as well.
I've also tried Camera360, it has a lot of cool effects, but it takes awhile to start-up and select the right menu/settings and then take a pic.

Yup, I'm currently running the stock froyo ROM (but rooted). Actually the stock camera has touch to focus, but you actually have to hold the focus area for about a second to change the target. So it's more like hold-to-focus. I've seen the MIUI camera implementation and I like it better. It has a much more pleasant and simple interface.

Just got this phone recently from Wind and found some nice deals on accesories.
Accessories:
All of the items can be pricematched at NCIX.
Case: $10.99 >> Was $4.85 @ DirectMobile but seems out of stock for the moment
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Data Speed @ Downtown Toronto:
Data Speed @ Mississauga close to the airport :

[Q] Signal difference between AOSP and Sense?

Ok most of the newer ROMs let you display the signal in the status bar as a number and I've noticed that with the AOSP ROM (U.K.E. v1.4.6 for the test I did) displays a lot lower numbers (usually between -75 and -95) than the Sense ROM (MikShifted v2.1 for the test). The Sense ROM usually displays between -98 to -109, but when you go into "About Phone" in settings it and look at "Signal Strength" it always says a number in the same range as the AOSP ROM (-75 and -95). I have no knowledge of radio theory or anything of the like, could anybody explain this? Are the Sense ROM numbers just off in the status bar? Or do AOSP ROMs get better signal without the Sense overlay? I have noticed this trend in all the Sense and AOSP ROMs that have this feature, not just these two. I am just curious if somebody could explain it. Thanks in advance!

Each phone will be different... My shift, has weaker signal running aosp as compared to sense, it's very minimal difference but I really notice it when using 4G or when on wifi and moving away from my signal... I could be wrong but I think I read that aosp signal strength was off.
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I would agree with drob311, my signal strength/data speeds seems to be a bit faster when running Sense. It's not a huge difference because I definitely prefer AOSP to Sense but when I am running a Sense ROM it has a slight edge over AOSP.. Just in my experience.
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Not that I run AOSP all that much. But the few times I have messed with it, my Signal hasn't been all that good. Again as drob, and crump mentioned not a huge difference. Just enough to be able to tell it's slower. But I've never done any "real" tests. Also, I'm certain there are other variables involved that I'm not accounting for.

Oh I just noticed it and thought it was interesting and thought I'd see if anybody knew why.. Thanks for the responses tho

It was more of a "Am I seeing this right experiment" than a real experiment. I don't know but when I did a speed test, flushing all caches and overclocked to the same speed, the averages where pretty much the same, just wondered if the signal strength was effected, not the performance.

The true speeds are the same (on average), and what you see with the AOSP ROM is the true strength. The sense ROMs exaggerate the signal to give customers a placebo benefit.

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The true speeds are the same (on average), and what you see with the AOSP ROM is the true strength. The sense ROMs exaggerate the signal to give customers a placebo benefit.
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Yeah i agree, when i ran AOSP I had 0 bars which equaled out to 58 kbps download speeds on 3G, but Sense always showed 4 bars to full bars with same speed results
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The true speeds are the same (on average), and what you see with the AOSP ROM is the true strength. The sense ROMs exaggerate the signal to give customers a placebo benefit.
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I was kinda thinking that by looking more closely into it, but like I said I know nothing of radio theory.
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bilgerryan said:
I was kinda thinking that by looking more closely into it, but like I said I know nothing of radio theory.
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Well HERE is a good link to start with. Also THIS is another one. Both links have a bunch of other links connected. Should be a start .

The actual signal strength does not change from one ROM to the next. That would be impossible to do at the ROM level. The only thing that can change is the algorithm that takes the dBm signal strength given to it at the output of the transceiver and "translates" that into a readable quantity. So, if the ROM "samples" the signal more times per "x" cycle than another, the "signal strength" will be more averaged over a longer time period. The longer "sampling" time, the less averaged it will be. Then you have the unknown of HOW the ROM developer uses that information to write to the screen.
The hardware inside the phone. the distance it is from the transmitter and the environment in between is what determines your signal strength. The ONLY way to increase it or decrease it is to build in an RF amplifier or attenuator. That isn't something that can be done in firmware or software.
To many people get WAY to anal about what their different "Meters" on their phones are telling them without knowing WHAT those "meters" are actually doing.
See ya'
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OneoftheRabble said:
The actual signal strength does not change from one ROM to the next. That would be impossible to do at the ROM level. The only thing that can change is the algorithm that takes the dBm signal strength given to it at the output of the transceiver and "translates" that into a readable quantity. So, if the ROM "samples" the signal more times per "x" cycle than another, the "signal strength" will be more averaged over a longer time period. The longer "sampling" time, the less averaged it will be. Then you have the unknown of HOW the ROM developer uses that information to write to the screen.
The hardware inside the phone. the distance it is from the transmitter and the environment in between is what determines your signal strength. The ONLY way to increase it or decrease it is to build in an RF amplifier or attenuator. That isn't something that can be done in firmware or software.
To many people get WAY to anal about what their different "Meters" on their phones are telling them without knowing WHAT those "meters" are actually doing.
See ya'
OotR
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The true speeds are the same (on average), and what you see with the AOSP ROM is the true strength. The sense ROMs exaggerate the signal to give customers a placebo benefit.
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Yeah kinda like how Sense Roms never shows 1x.
Personally my data has always been worse on sense.

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Yeah kinda like how Sense Roms never shows 1x.
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Well that is because of the carrier setting it to only show 3g even during 1x. Sprint feels the need to lie to its customers making them think they are in 3g coverage when they are not. Easy fix to have it actually call on the correct array of images but IMHO we shouldnt have to do that little edit to correct it.
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one_love_420 said:
Well that is because of the carrier setting it to only show 3g even during 1x. Sprint feels the need to lie to its customers making them think they are in 3g coverage when they are not. Easy fix to have it actually call on the correct array of images but IMHO we shouldnt have to do that little edit to correct it.
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Yeah I already knew about that, that's why I mentioned that. Like I said I get better consitant data speeds on AOSP roms then on sense where the bars are constantly going up/down. For instance I'll be browsing on the web browser and loading a webpage is very sporatic on Sense Roms.