Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
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It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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That's nice.
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sapphireHero said:
Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
(1 post, cant post any link so just remove the space in between)
It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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Exciting to hear, and certainly more legitimate than the dumb 780mhz hoax.
Edit: LOL, Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚'s picture is hilarious.
Don't be expecting much out of it.....
"increases application execution speed by up to three times"
That REALLY is NOT that hard to do. You will note that they do NOT say 3-times across the board! It means that they found at least ONE glitch somewhere where something was running slower than it had to, and in THAT CASE, it results in a speedup with a factor of 3. Note that this particular speedup might result in a SLOW DOWN somewhere else (if they are morons). Second, this "Myriad" doesn't make me feel at all warm or fuzzy -- it feels like proprietary locked-in type nonsense. You know, they kind where this group of douchebags is trying to take over the entire platform by intentionally introducing proprietary incompatibilities.
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Don't be expecting much out of it.....
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Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind
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+1
Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind
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major performance boost or no, work like this is what makes Android great. This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device and I, for one, am very pleased at this (pre-)announcement.
can't wait to see some benchmarks.
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This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device....
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No it isn't. This is just some proprietary junk. If it were OHA at work, you'd see contributions being pushed back to the AOSP, which I guarantee you will NOT see here. All this is is a private fork of AOSP/dalvik that those douchebags are trying to SELL.
Myriad whosawhatsit is a founding member of the OHA, folks. I don't know what, precisely, this "Dalvik Turbo" is -- but I //do// know that Myriad was one of the companies involved in developing Dalvik itself. They specialize in virtual machine development.
I //suspect// that this is some special JIT process. But they then turn around and claim that the memory signature impact is low as well. So... who can say?
Sweet deal, buuuut.....
this should be interesting, it seems to me that we have an influx of tools, mods, scripts and hacks and no real new roms. I guess its in part due to the fact that too much is coming out too quick for it to all get implemented. We'll see how it goes.... Hopefully in the next couple weeks we'll see this and all the overclocking hacks integrated into some cool new roms.
So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.
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That's nice.
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****ING ROFL, +1 for you Zalgo.
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So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.
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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.
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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.
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Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744
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Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744
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Thanks a million, I hope this will help game emulators out a bit.
No need to speculate about this as we will see one way or the other next week at MWC. Also guys lets not drag the OC debate into this thread as it's OT and there is enough flame in the thread dedicated for it.
I miss some facts for the "turbo vm".
it could be:
- optimize code (3x faster only with special benchmark...)
- jit compiler (longer startup times)
- jit + store the compiled code (seen on IBM mainframes)
- hot spot compiler (like the actual sun jvm)
I get a
Formatting SYSTEM:...
Copying files...
E:Can't symlink /system/xbin/bb/[[
E:Failure at line 59:
symlink /system/xbin/busybox SYSTEM:xbin/bb/[
Installation aborted.
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after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.
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I get a
after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.
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This Thread was Made so the Source don't get lost in the Future & Buried in Tons of Reply Posts..
Here The Source to 780Mhz..... So far the mt3g is running fine... No smoke yet!! http://twitpic.com/121lnv & http://twitpic.com/121m1t
I'm Not responsible for any Broken Phone's... This is just the Tools to OC to the Highest
Current CPU settings that will Run in Mhz
128000,245760,384000,528000,550000,560000,570000,580000,590000,600000,628000,650000,660000,670000,680000,690000,700000,728000,750000,760000,770000,780000
Now, this exp. is only if your using msm, but substitute msm for any source you're building.....
Exp. would look like:
(msm) ~/mydroid/msm/arch/arm/mach-msm/ For acpu
(msm) ~/mydroid/msm/kernel/ ( Personal changes I made )
Hope's everyone enjoys It!
Oh my goodness
780 MHZ sounds amazingly much... 50% more than the official max speed?
Wow
But It will drain battery and maybe explode after some time
Looking forward to stable Releases with this.
Gonna need the Battery Temperature Option in SetCPU
domenukk said:
Oh my goodness
780 MHZ sounds amazingly much... 50% more than the official max speed?
Wow
But It will drain battery and maybe explode after some time
Looking forward to stable Releases with this.
Gonna need the Battery Temperature Option in SetCPU
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It does drain the battery fast, however I haven't noticed a temp. increase
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It does drain the battery fast, however I haven't noticed a temp. increase
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How fast exactly?
So..So.. Awesome
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Honestly the 780Mhz is likely Over Kill, But.... The mt3g battery run's around 23 to 24 C on my Phone with the Over clock...
Battery Life? Can't really say, as I have on demand setup, so far I've not seen it scale past 628Mhz on a cpu load....
The settings I'm running is 245 Min / 780 Max.. Still have a Fully battery since flashing this morning w/ AOSP2.4
hi eugene.
your certain that 780mhz is doable on the g1 (htc dream), and you see no short-term ill effects, and the cpu can maintain that clock with only 1.325v?
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How fast exactly?
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Like, wow. I noticed a difference in eclair, scrolling is extremely smooth. Let's put it this way, at 780 the Nexus Sparkles keep moving while you swipe screens
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hi eugene.
your certain that 780mhz is doable on the g1 (htc dream), and you see no short-term ill effects, and the cpu can maintain that clock with only 1.325v?
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I can't say for Sure... But Surely it's able to hit 628Mhz no problem..
THis is just the Tools needed.... I take no Responsibility to damage Phone's.
But, Looking at the Feedback, it's Doing fine
Wow... Just Figured... This will make CompCache a whole lot faster and fun to use. Maybe with this it will be possible to.. like... CompCache Sound and Media Things also, making more space for apps?
or just CompCache everything exept for Video
Only negative thing about this is gonna be trying to fit my G1 in my pocket after installing this on the back of it.
Eugene what rom are you using again??
I hope this comes out for Super D I really like using it
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Eugene what rom are you using again??
I hope this comes out for Super D I really like using it
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Bbuchacher has been looking at it
Six6Sicks said:
Only negative thing about this is gonna be trying to fit my G1 in my pocket after installing this on the back of it.
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Naw man.... Bacon & Eggs are the New 21st Century CPU coolers
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Eugene what rom are you using again??
I hope this comes out for Super D I really like using it
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I'm Currently using my AOSP2.4 rom, I'm sure it will come out, just wait for then to add in the Spec. to there Kernel's.
*EDIT*
First Page has been Updated with the CPU Mhz that is able to Run
Sorry im a noob, but how exactly do you get this over say, OE 1.1.4?
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Sorry im a noob, but how exactly do you get this over say, OE 1.1.4?
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I have a way in the thread, however this will work just as well http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/21566423/32f4bc73/sharing.html?rnd=99
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Bbuchacher has been looking at it
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I <3 eugene :3
phuKKah said:
I <3 eugene :3
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I <3 <3 Eugene... no homo
I already see this in someone's signature
hi guys i just flashed my G1 wit the hero rom but it lags a lot and the applications don't load fast so how would i speed it up i have 2.1 firmware.
I assume you have King's or Eugene's Eclair hero/espresso?
If your comparing it to a Donut rom then thats why you might think its slow.Also having 200+ apps open if too much so you should get a task killer.If you dont have a swap partition then that might be adding to the slowness.The 2.1 hero from King is as fast as a donut so unless you have alot of widgets it should be fine.
Question in a development forum + Not enough research done + Ignorance of Search bar = Junior Member.
Whts done is done. So u cud flash one with a 10mb hack. Try a 1.5 sense, cuz the eclair has no gpu acceleration as of yet so perhaps thats why you are finding it slow. Use a taskmanager to frequently close running applications. overclock to the max using a market app such as overclock widget or setcpu.
Hero was not the rom if you wanted speed.... fail
hahaha speed? hero? hahahahahaha
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hahaha speed? hero? hahahahahaha
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overclocking?
acc697 said:
hi guys i just flashed my G1 wit the hero rom but it lags a lot and the applications don't load fast so how would i speed it up i have 2.1 firmware.
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okay everyone the best way to speed up any rom is to have a class 6 sd card it will run much faster after you get one check out my vid here is a link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIeT6vpqvh4
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okay everyone the best way to speed up any rom is to have a class 6 sd card it will run much faster after you get one check out my vid here is a link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIeT6vpqvh4
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I'm actually pretty sure the best way to speed up hero is to not run it
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I'm actually pretty sure the best way to speed up hero is to not run it
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lol true but all the hero roms i run run smooth no lag but i also have a mytouch3g which is wayyyy faster than a g1 but still before i got my class 6 card they laged on me
VoLoDaR1 said:
lol true but all the hero roms i run run smooth no lag but i also have a mytouch3g which is wayyyy faster than a g1 but still before i got my class 6 card they laged on me
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It only has more Rom not Ram
I have 4 only dont think I need a 6.
VoLoDaR1 said:
lol true but all the hero roms i run run smooth no lag but i also have a mytouch3g which is wayyyy faster than a g1 but still before i got my class 6 card they laged on me
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Same processor and same RAM, why would a myTouch be any faster? I'll put my overclocked G1 up against a MT3G any day of the week.
That leads me to my next point about making a Hero ROM faster. I would definitely install SetCPU, overclock it, and decrease the CPU usage at which it will upscale it's speed. That dramatically increases performance.
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Same processor and same RAM, why would a myTouch be any faster? I'll put my overclocked G1 up against a MT3G any day of the week.
That leads me to my next point about making a Hero ROM faster. I would definitely install SetCPU, overclock it, and decrease the CPU usage at which it will upscale it's speed. That dramatically increases performance.
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But if you have thres hold too low it will scale when not needed.If battery life is a concern you want it to 50-65. If you have a 2600mah bat then go ahead and try 20-50.Dont make it 528 all the time either, use 128 while sleep and 128-528 while on charger or batt.
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But if you have thres hold too low it will scale when not needed.If battery life is a concern you want it to 50-65. If you have a 2600mah bat then go ahead and try 20-50.Dont make it 528 all the time either, use 128 while sleep and 128-528 while on charger or batt.
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Yeah, absolutely. I have mine set to scale at 50%, and that seems to produce good results.
acc697 said:
hi guys i just flashed my G1 wit the hero rom but it lags a lot and the applications don't load fast so how would i speed it up i have 2.1 firmware.
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it seems some people just don't learn
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629907
Honestly, why did you start this thread,too lazy or too stupid?
please go back to your WinMo
I'm using mlign hero rom. Best one so far. With 10 mb ram hack it's pretty smooth. BenchmarkPi's results of about 11 000.
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BenchmarkPi's results of about 11 000.
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must be all the hard ass work/time he puts in
I mean, read one of the changelogs, its pretty insane development!!!
kingklick said:
must be all the hard ass work/time he puts in
I mean, read one of the changelogs, its pretty insane development!!!
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What is yours then ?, its pretty insane its too !! Thanks man!
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must be all the hard ass work/time he puts in
I mean, read one of the changelogs, its pretty insane development!!!
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Oooh, the irony
class 6 sd card, 96mb swap and MLIGN's.
Kingklicks is quite fast, but I dont think it is as fast as MLIGN's. Definitly not trying to say who is better or does more work. Hell, MLIGN only does the hero ROM and older firmware at that.
THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR DEVS ON THE MATTER OF UNDERVOLT
According to the guy who made setcpu.
pershoot just changed the voltage used by adjusting the voltages (in mV) in the acpu_freq_tbl table in acpuclock-scorpion.c
So if we just edit the table in our own acpuclock-arm11.c(or acpuclock-arm11.c-OCing), that should give us undervolt?
It can't be that simple?
Code:
/* MSM7201A Levels 3-6 all correspond to 1.2V, level 7 corresponds to 1.325V. */
enum {
VDD_0 = 0,
VDD_1 = 1,
VDD_2 = 2,
VDD_3 = 3,
VDD_4 = 4,
VDD_5 = 5,
VDD_6 = 6,
VDD_7 = 7,
VDD_END
};
Thanks to kleranc for idea.
I should probably update this since it has been reincarnated for some reason. lol.
Regardless, this image will explain everything(thanks jus10o for the nice drawing):
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I have to be clear about a few things though:
Under my own testing, and from my own experiences; our processor isn't capable of exerting itself that much. So if you are using an undervolted kernel, it really only undervolts the higher frequencies as you can see in the table above. This is good and bad.
Good: Because you're not using that much juice from the battery and you keep a lower core temp
Bad: Because you may notice performance loss
It also has to be noted that not all processors will behave equally: you may experience no performance loss, or you may experience complete loss. It's a roll of the dice.
About lower frequencies and undervolting(from GSM Hero forum):
dipje said:
To all
Now, about the 'undervolting': A lot of talk and discussion has been going on in the kernel thread(s), and I think every kernel 'hacker' in the end ended up with pretty much the same frequency table and settings. Going lower than VDD_3 ended up in waking-issues or not-responding heroes. Some worked, most didn't. You see the ROMs here and there that used 19mhz and / or VDD_2 or lower now releasing updated versions with just a bit more juice and mhz during sleep, because some heroes really aren't waking up properly.
Or aging 7200 just needs a bit of juice apparently
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Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
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Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
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Well at higher-frequencies we'd benefit a lot on battery life. With just about everyone using Overclock kernels, this could really help out.
For some of us, battery life means a lot.
So phusson has a simple fix for dropping VDD levels.
Here
Name sounds familiar? Yeah he's the same guy who helped us get overlocking on our msm7k phones
So credit to him. Should have somthing ready by tomorrow.
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Yes it would increase the heat, but no substantially. Besides, we wouldn't decrease the voltage too much. Finding just a "safe" undervolt to conserve battery(if it exists).
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Huh? Excuse me, but I have an engineering background too (materials science) and must have missed that lecture. What is the principle behind this? I'm really skeptical because I'm 99% sure from my years of PC modding experience that a lower voltage is synonymous with better battery life, longer life-time (opposite effect of over-volting), and lower temperatures.
There are no disadvantages other than instability, which only happens if your voltage is TOO low.
Edit: here's a source that backs my claim
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...es/235824-undervolting-guide.html#post3183068
Sparticuz said:
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
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But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
RE: c00ller
I have to agree with c00ller on this. As an engineer with a physics background, and more importantly, an avid PC overclocker, it is considered common knowledge that lower voltages produce less heat, decrease power consumption, and sacrifice stability at higher clock speeds.
Considering that some of our hero's can be clocked up to 768 mHz stable, undervolting should be doable to a reasonable extent. In fact, if somebody wanted to keep stock frequencies, ie up to only 528, a significant amount of undervolting could probably be accomplished.
foolforfood said:
But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
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Check out my blue echo rom later tonight. Decadence just built me a boot.img for my rom with oc/UV at 710 oc and free autokiller built in. Ill upload tonight and its a sense based rom
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
Bradart said:
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
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Read my post above urs. That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted. I'm running it now and it work just great
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
foolforfood said:
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
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Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
Papa Smurf151 said:
Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
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Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
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Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
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Don't thank me...thank decadence
Papa Smurf151 said:
That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted.
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Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
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Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
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That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
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That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
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Just to clarify kernel != ramdisk .
The kernel is #15 from darchdroid 2.7 from the uv.zip just thrown together with the ramdisk from 2.3.3. That equals the new boot.img.
I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
mingkee said:
I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I ran the first quadrant within thirty minutes of getting the phone, and it scored 2554 or something like that.
Just ran one and scored... 2463
you have to realize this is the same chip as the XOOM and Atrix but its powering a lower resolution so the quadrant scores will be higher BUT you're at a lower resolution. I have a Xoom and it gets 1800 while this gets 2500. I'd rather have a higher resolution than a higher score. Still you shouldn't have any problems playing games on here.
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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Nobody seems to be getting hung up in this thread?
mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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After scoring 1700 with my Legend with data2ext, I realized that Quadrant scores don't necessarily don't mean much. What I want to see is how much this phone scores in GLBenchmark.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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I don't get your point. How does it mean nothing but also means it's fast? It's a benchmark test. The point of it is to gauge performance, nothing more. Would you have bought one if it scored 850? After all... its a meaningless number.
djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
atkhobby said:
This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
MWBehr said:
I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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Oh? That's quite interesting news to me, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer actually that its not ASOP, I was looking forward to that. Let's hope the cut is shallow and easy to clean.
I hear CM7 is running on x2x so this all may become moot?
Sorry, I didn't read further.. I see the answers here in the forum. Please ignore this post
djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
luckycook82 said:
Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
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In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
djmcnz said:
In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
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Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
jlevy73 said:
Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
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Just one run...
quadrant score
My quadrant score with pauls modaco rom is 3200+ which i am extremely happy with. on stock rom i was getting 26-2700.
>_<
O2x owners get the hell out of our forum! Your devices are programmed differently than ours, you've most likely tweaked your devices in some way (who comes to XDA and does not do so?), and you're confusing the situation.
Out of the box, the G2x from T-MOBILE USA scores about 2400-2500 on Quadrant. End of story.
Hello. I've bought a nexus s a few days ago and I've started swapping roms.
My question is simple, how do people manage to get 4-5k quadrant scores?
Currently I'm using Pure Bionix 1.6 rom, but the maximum score I was able to get was around 3.3K.
Describe everything you do, from roms/kernels to apps closed etc.
Sorry if this is a newbie question
Install 1.6.1, then use SetCPU to OC the kernel.
That's how I achieved my 5300 quad.
You can also try other kernels as well.
YMMV
Use matrix rom amd just over clock abd run quadrant a few times back to back and you will hit 4500+
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cyanogenmod 7 + trinity 1.44
4500-5000
Oxygen 2.3.1 @ 1300Mhz ->> 4286, highest score for me with this ROM.
And I didn't do anything special to get this score, I only overclocked CPU.
Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.
spartanpg said:
Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.
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set setcpu to 1540 max/1540 low. bench four times in a row, throw out the first 2 results, the forth should be the highest.
That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones
spartanpg said:
That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones
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its possible that your phone doesnt like that high of a overclock. try trinity t144 kernel. also, have you updated to the most recent bionix?
I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.
No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.
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I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.
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are you using quadrant advanced or standard? if youre using quadrant advanced, could you provide a screenshot please. id really like to see the score breakdown. the score is really low. also, in the op of the Trinity thread in the development section is a dalvik-wiper.zip, would you flash it please, then try again.
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qbking77 said:
No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.
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orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.
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orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.
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While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).
So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far
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So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far
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i didnt even consider that because its included in the bionix/trinity combo. but it does have to be included in a stock rom. whats odd is, how did you lose it
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onigiri1692 said:
While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).
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you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.
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you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.
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I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.
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I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.
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real world use is all that matters, period. but quadrants are still fun to run, as long as no body is cheating. speaking of, this is from a galaxy s 2 at 1.6ghz, the nexus s has officially been dethroned from the top of quadrant.. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...-benchmarks-nearly-7800-in-quadrant-20111110/
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Any chance I could get these answered please? Would really apreciate it.
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks...0ti9020ai9023/