THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR DEVS ON THE MATTER OF UNDERVOLT
According to the guy who made setcpu.
pershoot just changed the voltage used by adjusting the voltages (in mV) in the acpu_freq_tbl table in acpuclock-scorpion.c
So if we just edit the table in our own acpuclock-arm11.c(or acpuclock-arm11.c-OCing), that should give us undervolt?
It can't be that simple?
Code:
/* MSM7201A Levels 3-6 all correspond to 1.2V, level 7 corresponds to 1.325V. */
enum {
VDD_0 = 0,
VDD_1 = 1,
VDD_2 = 2,
VDD_3 = 3,
VDD_4 = 4,
VDD_5 = 5,
VDD_6 = 6,
VDD_7 = 7,
VDD_END
};
Thanks to kleranc for idea.
I should probably update this since it has been reincarnated for some reason. lol.
Regardless, this image will explain everything(thanks jus10o for the nice drawing):
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I have to be clear about a few things though:
Under my own testing, and from my own experiences; our processor isn't capable of exerting itself that much. So if you are using an undervolted kernel, it really only undervolts the higher frequencies as you can see in the table above. This is good and bad.
Good: Because you're not using that much juice from the battery and you keep a lower core temp
Bad: Because you may notice performance loss
It also has to be noted that not all processors will behave equally: you may experience no performance loss, or you may experience complete loss. It's a roll of the dice.
About lower frequencies and undervolting(from GSM Hero forum):
dipje said:
To all
Now, about the 'undervolting': A lot of talk and discussion has been going on in the kernel thread(s), and I think every kernel 'hacker' in the end ended up with pretty much the same frequency table and settings. Going lower than VDD_3 ended up in waking-issues or not-responding heroes. Some worked, most didn't. You see the ROMs here and there that used 19mhz and / or VDD_2 or lower now releasing updated versions with just a bit more juice and mhz during sleep, because some heroes really aren't waking up properly.
Or aging 7200 just needs a bit of juice apparently
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Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
Mr. Biggz said:
Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
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Well at higher-frequencies we'd benefit a lot on battery life. With just about everyone using Overclock kernels, this could really help out.
For some of us, battery life means a lot.
So phusson has a simple fix for dropping VDD levels.
Here
Name sounds familiar? Yeah he's the same guy who helped us get overlocking on our msm7k phones
So credit to him. Should have somthing ready by tomorrow.
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Yes it would increase the heat, but no substantially. Besides, we wouldn't decrease the voltage too much. Finding just a "safe" undervolt to conserve battery(if it exists).
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Huh? Excuse me, but I have an engineering background too (materials science) and must have missed that lecture. What is the principle behind this? I'm really skeptical because I'm 99% sure from my years of PC modding experience that a lower voltage is synonymous with better battery life, longer life-time (opposite effect of over-volting), and lower temperatures.
There are no disadvantages other than instability, which only happens if your voltage is TOO low.
Edit: here's a source that backs my claim
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...es/235824-undervolting-guide.html#post3183068
Sparticuz said:
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
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But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
RE: c00ller
I have to agree with c00ller on this. As an engineer with a physics background, and more importantly, an avid PC overclocker, it is considered common knowledge that lower voltages produce less heat, decrease power consumption, and sacrifice stability at higher clock speeds.
Considering that some of our hero's can be clocked up to 768 mHz stable, undervolting should be doable to a reasonable extent. In fact, if somebody wanted to keep stock frequencies, ie up to only 528, a significant amount of undervolting could probably be accomplished.
foolforfood said:
But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
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Check out my blue echo rom later tonight. Decadence just built me a boot.img for my rom with oc/UV at 710 oc and free autokiller built in. Ill upload tonight and its a sense based rom
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
Bradart said:
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
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Read my post above urs. That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted. I'm running it now and it work just great
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
foolforfood said:
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
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Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
Papa Smurf151 said:
Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
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Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
foolforfood said:
Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
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Don't thank me...thank decadence
Papa Smurf151 said:
That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted.
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Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
fwhite42 said:
Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
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That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
Papa Smurf151 said:
That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
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Just to clarify kernel != ramdisk .
The kernel is #15 from darchdroid 2.7 from the uv.zip just thrown together with the ramdisk from 2.3.3. That equals the new boot.img.
Related
This Thread was Made so the Source don't get lost in the Future & Buried in Tons of Reply Posts..
Here The Source to 780Mhz..... So far the mt3g is running fine... No smoke yet!! http://twitpic.com/121lnv & http://twitpic.com/121m1t
I'm Not responsible for any Broken Phone's... This is just the Tools to OC to the Highest
Current CPU settings that will Run in Mhz
128000,245760,384000,528000,550000,560000,570000,580000,590000,600000,628000,650000,660000,670000,680000,690000,700000,728000,750000,760000,770000,780000
Now, this exp. is only if your using msm, but substitute msm for any source you're building.....
Exp. would look like:
(msm) ~/mydroid/msm/arch/arm/mach-msm/ For acpu
(msm) ~/mydroid/msm/kernel/ ( Personal changes I made )
Hope's everyone enjoys It!
Oh my goodness
780 MHZ sounds amazingly much... 50% more than the official max speed?
Wow
But It will drain battery and maybe explode after some time
Looking forward to stable Releases with this.
Gonna need the Battery Temperature Option in SetCPU
domenukk said:
Oh my goodness
780 MHZ sounds amazingly much... 50% more than the official max speed?
Wow
But It will drain battery and maybe explode after some time
Looking forward to stable Releases with this.
Gonna need the Battery Temperature Option in SetCPU
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It does drain the battery fast, however I haven't noticed a temp. increase
JAguirre1231 said:
It does drain the battery fast, however I haven't noticed a temp. increase
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How fast exactly?
So..So.. Awesome
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Honestly the 780Mhz is likely Over Kill, But.... The mt3g battery run's around 23 to 24 C on my Phone with the Over clock...
Battery Life? Can't really say, as I have on demand setup, so far I've not seen it scale past 628Mhz on a cpu load....
The settings I'm running is 245 Min / 780 Max.. Still have a Fully battery since flashing this morning w/ AOSP2.4
hi eugene.
your certain that 780mhz is doable on the g1 (htc dream), and you see no short-term ill effects, and the cpu can maintain that clock with only 1.325v?
KingSkeme said:
How fast exactly?
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Like, wow. I noticed a difference in eclair, scrolling is extremely smooth. Let's put it this way, at 780 the Nexus Sparkles keep moving while you swipe screens
pershoot said:
hi eugene.
your certain that 780mhz is doable on the g1 (htc dream), and you see no short-term ill effects, and the cpu can maintain that clock with only 1.325v?
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I can't say for Sure... But Surely it's able to hit 628Mhz no problem..
THis is just the Tools needed.... I take no Responsibility to damage Phone's.
But, Looking at the Feedback, it's Doing fine
Wow... Just Figured... This will make CompCache a whole lot faster and fun to use. Maybe with this it will be possible to.. like... CompCache Sound and Media Things also, making more space for apps?
or just CompCache everything exept for Video
Only negative thing about this is gonna be trying to fit my G1 in my pocket after installing this on the back of it.
Eugene what rom are you using again??
I hope this comes out for Super D I really like using it
KingSkeme said:
Eugene what rom are you using again??
I hope this comes out for Super D I really like using it
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Bbuchacher has been looking at it
Six6Sicks said:
Only negative thing about this is gonna be trying to fit my G1 in my pocket after installing this on the back of it.
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Naw man.... Bacon & Eggs are the New 21st Century CPU coolers
KingSkeme said:
Eugene what rom are you using again??
I hope this comes out for Super D I really like using it
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I'm Currently using my AOSP2.4 rom, I'm sure it will come out, just wait for then to add in the Spec. to there Kernel's.
*EDIT*
First Page has been Updated with the CPU Mhz that is able to Run
Sorry im a noob, but how exactly do you get this over say, OE 1.1.4?
sahid1haha said:
Sorry im a noob, but how exactly do you get this over say, OE 1.1.4?
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I have a way in the thread, however this will work just as well http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/21566423/32f4bc73/sharing.html?rnd=99
JAguirre1231 said:
Bbuchacher has been looking at it
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word
I <3 eugene :3
phuKKah said:
I <3 eugene :3
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I <3 <3 Eugene... no homo
I already see this in someone's signature
I'd like to present to you my first publicly shared kernel, based mainly and solely upon the "stock" CM9 kernel, before they in the future if they decide to, make the jump to a 3.x based kernel. This is a compilation of the talented developers I've had time to get to know and befriend as well as learn from but this is also meant to be as close to the "stock" CM9 kernel without adding anything to drastic. And will remain at this point for the times to come.
What it includes:
Governors the newer ones included were ported over by Nubecoder to EpicCM: performance, ondemand, powersave, userspace, conservative, interactive, interactiveX, smartassV2.
The Overclock steps are based off of Toadlife's Clean-GB, which is based off of the work of Rodderik, as well as the corrected steps which are a product of him and Cyc/dyehya. The steps range from [100,200,400,600,800,1000,1128,1200] and will remain at these levels.
It includes the force reboot button combination from Froyo brought forth into Gingerbread by the combined efforts/guidance of Nubecoder, Tortle and Mkasick.
Kexec support for those who wish to tempflash CWM5BML zip to update modems, Kexec is a product of mkasick's ingeniuty(pure genius I have to say.) And the zip for that flash is a process of the invaluable work of wtogami.
Support for Dock Audio is credited to bbelos, as well as voodoo color in the voodoo color specific version.
Voodoo Sound has been added in from the simplified commits of KernelSanders which is the work of zman0900, which is based off of the work of Earthbound[iAP] so I'd like thank both of them as well.
I'd like to thank Tortel and noobnl, for the initial wave of custom MTD stock TW kernels, it's unrelated but I've no reason not to thank my friends haha and then thank Nubecoder for his own create_boot.img method, which is quite excellent.
And finally so I shut up, in no specific order: Decad3nce, UberPinguin, mkasick, noobnl, DRockstar, nullghost, Tortel, Nubecoder, wtogami, Rodderik, jt1134, dameon78, wispofattes, and many others who greatly contributed to work involving CyanogenMod.
Github Repositories:
Kernel: ICS is stock with voodoo sound/ShurikenVoodoo is ShurikenVoodoo.
Shuriken
Boot.img conversion:
Create_boot.img CM9
Changelog and Downloads Links:
What's new:
As of 1.1: TUN, CIF, TCPMSS added in.
As of 1.2: Default Gamma Levels on ShurikenVoodoo were adapted by helpful suggestion of bbelos, as well as updated the recovery initramfs, scrolling shouldn't be buggy any longer.
As of 1.3: Addition of RNDIS as well as removal of 1.3, 1.4 from OC, it tops off at 1.2 ghz now, for some stability when overclocking.
As of 1.4: Added in bug fixes from CM9 kernel, involving that of Camera as well as kswapd0. Current Recovery initramfs is odd and shows a weirdness when installing, doesn't display all information.
As of 1.5: Voltage Control output is now fixed, all steps should be recognized, as well as matching Kernel commits with upstream, will be compatible with Alpha 3 when Alpha 3 drops, otherwise not a major update, just keeping it up to date.
As of 1.6: Multitouch protocol fixes by Mkasick, up to date with stock.
As of 1.7: Added 1.3 ghz back in stable, not going any higher than this. No updates to stock kernel, so currently up to date.
As of 1.7-1: Added in ability to disable steps. 1128, 1200, 1316 are disabled by default, for the sake of choice.
Download Links: Updated 2/27/12
Stock with Voodoo Sound:
Shuriken.zip
Voodoo-Sound/Color:
ShurikenVoodoo.zip
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Done by TexasEpic4G, thanks man.
As always with voodoo color, when the brightness is too low depending on your settings the green screen tint can occur, I hope you enjoy the experience until your favorite kernels get up to speed.
Messing with settings within Voodoo Control can alleviate this issue via,
bbelos said:
If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
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As a disclaimer, this kernel isn't fine tuned towards Overclocking as that of the likes of Samurai Kernel but it's not intended to be Samurai kernel or be like Samurai kernel, it's just what it is. The methods to compile my kernel as well as means to build a CM9 MTD boot.img(original method created by nubecoder) are above at my repo's within the OP if anyone would feel the need to go about doing it themselves, as a learning process, I'd be open to help anyone who feels like they want to try.
Reserving for my buddy, he can always change it to him lol
I was first to download. Woohoo. Muchas gracius!
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Woah What's up with the weird Freqs. Steps?
But would you think you'll put 1500 in future I know you said those were it but just asking you never know. But if not that's ok how does those steps work with the EPIC we never ran those steps before.
Ill wait for a more stable relase for CM9 and then make the switch From CM7.
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Also so it's noted now, any problems bugs you have which you feel are kernel related should be posted within here, and not the main CM9 thread if you're running my kernel. So we can lessen the overall rush towards posting within that thread. Thanks guys.
AproSamurai said:
Also so it's noted now, any problems bugs you have which you feel are kernel related should be posted within here, and not the main CM9 thread if you're running my kernel. So we can lessen the overall rush towards posting within that thread. Thanks guys.
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APRO FTW!!!!!!
XxLostSoulxX said:
Woah What's up with the weird Freqs. Steps?
But would you think you'll put 1500 in future I know you said those were it but just asking you never know. But if not that's ok how does those steps work with the EPIC we never ran those steps before.
Ill wait for a more stable relase for CM9 and then make the switch From CM7.
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It's based off of Toadlife's steps for his CleanGB, and honestly for my own personal preference I won't be putting 1500 into my kernel, Earthbound will have his kernel up to CM9 in no time I'm sure, as well as bbelos. I've tested and messed with each of the steps for the sake of use, but otherwise this isn't meant to be a permanent contender kernel wise, just meant for a part time use to hold people off at launch for a bit.
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As always with voodoo color, when the brightness is too low depending on your settings the green screen tint can occur, I hope you enjoy the experience until your favorite kernels get up to speed.
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If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
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If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
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Much appreciated, I'll be sure to put this in the OP as a potential fix.
Nice works well appreciate it samurai
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bbelos said:
If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
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Well i usually got green tint because i'm too high anything below -50 is good in Gamma Value.
My best Values are -46,-47,-36
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Nice works well appreciate it samurai
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Heh, I'm glad to hear it, if you suffer any random reboots, that's not due to the kernel, it's a ram issue. It's being looked into and worked. But I'll keep up to date as much as I can, Shadow Kernel should be getting updated soon.
Nice work Apro! I wondered when you'd go for a public release
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Heh, I'm glad to hear it, if you suffer any random reboots, that's not due to the kernel, it's a ram issue. It's being looked into and worked. But I'll keep up to date as much as I can, Shadow Kernel should be getting updated soon.
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Nope ram is running around 150mbs used not bad usually around 100 but I can deal with it till its fixed
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Congratz Apro !
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Nope ram is running around 150mbs used not bad usually around 100 but I can deal with it till its fixed
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Huh how i'm not running any apps right now and am around 230MB usually sometimes around 192MB.
And everything is getting cleared, and all apps are closed too.
Still Running CM7
TexasEpic4G said:
Congratz Apro !
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Oooo Thank you very much brother, I dig that, it's going in my signature for sure.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Huh how i'm not running any apps right now and am around 230MB usually sometimes around 192MB.
And everything is getting cleared, and all apps are closed too.
Still Running CM7
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Running servies not a task managers reading
Edit: 169mbs used according to a task manager
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Using this right now. Thanks for the quick port.
Is TUN, CIFS, and TCPMSS support turned on? Also, a pet peeve of mine is kernels that change the build number... Any chance you could switch to the localversion string instead (where custom kernel info arguably belongs, see my Github, bbelos's Github, et al)?
EDIT: Apro contacted me on IRC, questions answered.
We've all had our SGS's for a while now, and I was wondering how people are feeling on particular combinations of kernals and mods. I recently upgraded to ICS and I love the features, but I'm missing the good battery life I had with the Adrenaline Shot Gingerbread mod. So, given any combination of platform, kernal, undervolting levels, etc, what have you found makes for the longest battery life?
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We've all had our SGS's for a while now, and I was wondering how people are feeling on particular combinations of kernals and mods. I recently upgraded to ICS and I love the features, but I'm missing the good battery life I had with the Adrenaline Shot Gingerbread mod. So, given any combination of platform, kernal, undervolting levels, etc, what have you found makes for the longest battery life?
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I think the best ics rom is code name 2.0 in combination with the new hefe Kernel because of the battery life. If you like a lot of customization but want to keep a good battery life I recommend beam rom. (Battery life of beam is actually almost on par with code name) But I happen to look for apps to customize rather than within the rom so I use apex beta for the jelly bean looks and gestures rather than the cm9 themes for instance with codename and it doesn't take a toll on battery. The other thing to point out tho is the on screen issue. Code name is great for battery when its on standby mode (screen is in sleep mode) but like any other rom in ics or gb its pretty lousy when the screen is actually on so that's where apps like screen dimmer come in handy because they dim the screen beyond factory limit and save battery even during when the screen is on. Also remember to calibrate any rom and let it drain then recharge it all the way and bla bla bla if you don't know these steps you can look it up in the q&a forums.
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I'm honestly surprised that an ICS mod could get more performance than a GB mod. I shall try your combo!
lonoguge said:
Also remember to calibrate any rom and let it drain then recharge it all the way and bla bla bla if you don't know these steps you can look it up in the q&a forums.
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You do know googles top dev has said calibrating the battery is something that is a urban android myth dont you?
OP really any of the ICS flavors with hefe kernel added will be good.
eollie said:
You do know googles top dev has said calibrating the battery is something that is a urban android myth dont you?
OP really any of the ICS flavors with hefe kernel added will be good.
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Android already has urban myths? Too awesome! Lol
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If helped don't be afraid to hit the thanks button it doesn't bite lol
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You do know googles top dev has said calibrating the battery is something that is a urban android myth dont you?
OP really any of the ICS flavors with hefe kernel added will be good.
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No I don't think so, from personal use I know that some Roms have 70% before rebooting the phone but once I restart it, i notice it drains to 30% or less. This usually happens on a newly flashed rom. Calibration fixes this issue for me at least.
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I'm honestly surprised that an ICS mod could get more performance than a GB mod. I shall try your combo!
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Sorry i thought you meant on ics specifically. Battery life wise valhalla black by far is the best for battery it could probably last 3 days on one charge. Im not sure if theres a better froyo rom but it would make sense. The hefe kernel would be the best for gb or ics
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No I don't think so, from personal use I know that some Roms have 70% before rebooting the phone but once I restart it, i notice it drains to 30% or less. This usually happens on a newly flashed rom. Calibration fixes this issue for me at least.
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Sorry i thought you meant on ics specifically. Battery life wise valhalla black by far is the best for battery it could probably last 3 days on one charge. Im not sure if theres a better froyo rom but it would make sense. The hefe kernel would be the best for gb or ics
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Isn't hefe kernel just ICS?
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Isn't hefe kernel just ICS?
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Sure is. That's why people need to check who they get their advice from.
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Battery life is better than it has been on any ics so far. Using AOKP and hefe kernel. OC to 1.3.
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Sure is. That's why people need to check who they get their advice from.
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Can I be on the approved advice giver list? If so here's some advice. Everyone has their own idea of what the best combo is for them. All of these best threads are kinda useless. It's like asking 100 guys who the hottest looking actress or model is. Your gonna get at least 50 different responses. Just try different ROM/kernel combos for a few days each and see what one best suites your needs.
lonoguge said:
No I don't think so, from personal use I know that some Roms have 70% before rebooting the phone but once I restart it, i notice it drains to 30% or less. This usually happens on a newly flashed rom. Calibration fixes this issue for me at least.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
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What you are seeing is not calibrating the battery. You are deleting the battery stat file. All that does is start over with no stats in the file. Draining a lithium ion battery to a dead state decreases the life of the battery more then it will help it.
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Oopsies
hechoen said:
Can I be on the approved advice giver list? If so here's some advice. Everyone has their own idea of what the best combo is for them. All of these best threads are kinda useless. It's like asking 100 guys who the hottest looking actress or model is. Your gonna get at least 50 different responses. Just try different ROM/kernel combos for a few days each and see what one best suites your needs.
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Well, this is a forums where we discuss things. So I figured I'd ask people what they like!
Anyone have an opinion on Gingerbread mod/kernel combo's? I'm trying to use a Sony MN800 with my phone (for motorcycle riding) and ICS apparently has problems with the MN800 bluetooth functionality.
The hottest-looking actress really isn't that far off as an analogy. You may assume that each of our phones act similarly, compared to other SGS4Gs using the same software, but that simply isn't true. There have been plenty of cases here that I've seen where the majority of users couldn't replicate an issue a certain user or users have experienced, which typically means that the discrepancy is in the hardware. Statistically, you should be fine, but you should also take advice with a grain of salt.
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The hottest-looking actress really isn't that far off as an analogy. You may assume that each of our phones act similarly, compared to other SGS4Gs using the same software, but that simply isn't true. There have been plenty of cases here that I've seen where the majority of users couldn't replicate an issue a certain user or users have experienced, which typically means that the discrepancy is in the hardware. Statistically, you should be fine, but you should also take advice with a grain of salt.
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I guess expediency is the name of the game for me here, to be honest. I don't have days and days to try out the best combinations, as I am leaving for a weekend trip in a couple of days. I wanted to see what people have had amazing success with, so that I may stand a chance of having my phone be my motorcycle music player all weekend .
I've just set the governor to Smartass V2 in Codename 2.0 + Hefe, as I've heard that's a good one for battery life. What about battery voltage adjustments?
I think its safe to say -50 on each level should be safe. Not sure what kind of bike you have but maybe a hidden power outlet and a charger cord tucked away.
For anybody that has tried AntonX's Barebones - I believe would tell you that is your best bet to play it safe. I use it one of my phones with LightningZap with great results... it is my 'safe' phone when I need everything to work properly.
Hechoen - I'd take your advice any day.
eollie said:
I think its safe to say -50 on each level should be safe. Not sure what kind of bike you have but maybe a hidden power outlet and a charger cord tucked away.
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Thanks for the input! However, I'm not quite sure what -50 on each level means for Codename 2.0. The interface in Codename 2.0 is a voltage slider that starts at the default of zero and increases (to seemingly huge numbers). I don't see a way to gauge what the real voltage levels are and whatnot, so as to set lower levels.
Here's the Hefe Kernel values -- they are 25 mV lower than the stock T959V values, yet still 25 mV higher than the I9000 (Galaxy S).
My phone has been pretty happy at an additional 75 mV lower, O/C to 1200 MHz, smartassv2 with target awake frequency at either 600 MHz (as-compiled), or occasionally I've been messing with 400 Mhz. Every phone is different, so what works for me may not work for you.
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unsigned int freq_uv_table[FREQ_SIZE][3] = {
//freq, stock, current
{1400000, 1400, 1400},
{1300000, 1375, 1375},
{1200000, 1350, 1350},
{1100000, 1325, 1325},
{1000000, 1300, 1300},
{900000, 1250, 1250},
{800000, 1225, 1225},
{600000, 1200, 1200},
{400000, 1075, 1075},
{200000, 1000, 1000},
{100000, 975, 975}
};
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Can I be on the approved advice giver list? If so here's some advice. Everyone has their own idea of what the best combo is for them. All of these best threads are kinda useless. It's like asking 100 guys who the hottest looking actress or model is. Your gonna get at least 50 different responses. Just try different ROM/kernel combos for a few days each and see what one best suites your needs.
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I think "Best" is just a code/search word for "what has your experience been."
I find the comments helpful, thank you.
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Custom Kernel, Kernel for the HTC One Mini
Contributors
kairi_zeroblade, xXminiWHOOPERxX
Kernel Special Features: Wake Gestures, Finer Voltage control, Auto entropy seeding
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: Production build 5
Stable Release Date: 2014-10-26
Created 2014-09-25
Last Updated 2014-10-26
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will add a guide on features soon.
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Awesome! Thanks for the support!!
Just flashed this kernel. Will reporter deze my experiences in 2 days, first impression is very nice!
thanks for fresh kernel..
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@kairi_zeroblade how to install this? just installed over recovery zip? My Own ROM used IC 4.0.3.. when I installed the kernel still same.. need your help.. cheers
Nice Can it be used for non gpe versions?
Everest_ said:
Nice Can it be used for non gpe versions?
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This kernel can only be used on sense and GPE.
xXminiWHOOPERxX said:
This kernel can only be used on sense and GPE.
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Thank you!
410eaL said:
thanks for fresh kernel..
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@kairi_zeroblade how to install this? just installed over recovery zip? My Own ROM used IC 4.0.3.. when I installed the kernel still same.. need your help.. cheers
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you need to be S-OFF since this is an anykernel package..if you are S-OFF then eveything will be automated..use Synapse from Playstore to customize settings..
Any feedbacks/rants/violent reactions?? should we keep doing things here?? making me bleed without even the phone with me?? people here seem to be more uncooperative than the people on Xperia..they are craving for an official release already i'm just shy to do so..
kairi_zeroblade said:
Any feedbacks/rants/violent reactions?? should we keep doing things here?? making me bleed without even the phone with me?? people here seem to be more uncooperative than the people on Xperia..they are craving for an official release already i'm just shy to do so..
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I think i'm just happy that anyone cares to develop for this device so i'll take what i can get!
Since flashing 4.4.3 Rom with this kernel, i've noticed some lag on my lockscreen, exiting chrome with home button (home screen re-draws a lot), and pulling up my keyboard, especially in hangouts. I'm trying a different kernel (bilal_liberty) to see if that makes any difference. I think it's about the same...maybe a little bit smoother. I'm going to use that kernel for another day or so, then re-flash yours to make a better comparison.
Thanks for your work for our device.
jollywhitefoot said:
I think i'm just happy that anyone cares to develop for this device so i'll take what i can get!
Since flashing 4.4.3 Rom with this kernel, i've noticed some lag on my lockscreen, exiting chrome with home button (home screen re-draws a lot), and pulling up my keyboard, especially in hangouts. I'm trying a different kernel (bilal_liberty) to see if that makes any difference. I think it's about the same...maybe a little bit smoother. I'm going to use that kernel for another day or so, then re-flash yours to make a better comparison.
Thanks for your work for our device.
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its because HTC Implemented some DMA mappings..on high density devices(2gb RAM and above) we don't have these issues..this is just a port of what HTC did on M7 so we expect things like this come implemented too..so with the lack of huge RAM, indeed you will suffer issues..as a workaround i built a new one and sent it to Whooper and she gave a positive feedback with the laggs/redraws gone..on next release hopefully everything should be OK..i am just waiting for her to report the battery life for the test if the changes i made affected battery life or is it just stale..
Thanks for the nosy feedback i really appreciate it..any one else with issues so we can start balls rolling for an update?
kairi_zeroblade said:
its because HTC Implemented some DMA mappings..on high density devices(2gb RAM and above) we don't have these issues..this is just a port of what HTC did on M7 so we expect things like this come implemented too..so with the lack of huge RAM, indeed you will suffer issues..as a workaround i built a new one and sent it to Whooper and she gave a positive feedback with the laggs/redraws gone..on next release hopefully everything should be OK..i am just waiting for her to report the battery life for the test if the changes i made affected battery life or is it just stale..
Thanks for the nosy feedback i really appreciate it..any one else with issues so we can start balls rolling for an update?
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Thanks for the useful information. I'm looking forward to trying out the new kernel.
Hi,
I've been using this kernel since the day it was released. And I'm very happy about it! The features I like the most are UV (i undervolted 50 mV and disabled krait voltage boosting in synapse) and the way dt2w and s2w/s2s work. UV was really something this device needed. Max cpu temp was about 42℃ and it was idling around 6 degrees above ambient temperature, so it is a lot cooler than when I used different kernels. Battery time is also pretty good. The device has very good deep sleep now in combination with IC and greenify.
Although this kernel is imho the best kernel for the One mini, it still has some issues. The first one is that the launcher redraws pretty often, but I can't say this is because of the kernel. I also experienced this with the kernel that is packed with IC. The second issue is that when I lower the cpu freqs, either with trickster mod or synapse, they don't stick. As soon as I leave the app the frequencies go back to default. And the last thing I found was that after a while I got problems with connection. WiFi and mobile kept going on and off. Clearing cache/dalvik cache fixed it.
Anyway, thank you for this kernel and I hope you will support us for some time!
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Hi,
I've been using this kernel since the day it was released. And I'm very happy about it! The features I like the most are UV (i undervolted 50 mV and disabled krait voltage boosting in synapse) and the way dt2w and s2w/s2s work. UV was really something this device needed. Max cpu temp was about 42℃ and it was idling around 6 degrees above ambient temperature, so it is a lot cooler than when I used different kernels. Battery time is also pretty good. The device has very good deep sleep now in combination with IC and greenify.
Although this kernel is imho the best kernel for the One mini, it still has some issues. The first one is that the launcher redraws pretty often, but I can't say this is because of the kernel. I also experienced this with the kernel that is packed with IC. The second issue is that when I lower the cpu freqs, either with trickster mod or synapse, they don't stick. As soon as I leave the app the frequencies go back to default. And the last thing I found was that after a while I got problems with connection. WiFi and mobile kept going on and off. Clearing cache/dalvik cache fixed it.
Anyway, thank you for this kernel and I hope you will support us for some time!
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Yes eventually you have to clear caches since i recompiled a newer wifi module..regarding frequency issues not sticking its due to pnpmgr doing scaling stuff on its own..regarding redraws as explained earlier its due to some memory mapping HTC did to the kernel source..at my best, i did salvage a bit of memory from the GPU..well on next release i will balance the GPU memory to the system memory in proportion to alleviate issues..
Thanks for the feedback..next updates will be abit chunky..L2M is for testing already..and for those fetish with MLG..i will not add it..i won't contribute to backdoor exploits to android thus i am striving my best to eliminate memory leaks which in the latter can cause battery drains or high memory usage..
BTW the kernel packed with IC is mine.. (i made it)
Hi, Kairi
Having issuses with Kernel. Frequ. wont stick in synapse.
If I try to reduce from 1.7 to 1.4 everytime i leave synapse frequencies are on 1.7
Checked permissions of different files and folders all seems to be right so far.
Have you any advice?
Reinstalled app.. cleared cache + dalvik ...I´m on latest Liberty ROM
Thanks for your time and work...to support this device
greets
shivasrage said:
Hi, Kairi
Having issuses with Kernel. Frequ. wont stick in synapse.
If I try to reduce from 1.7 to 1.4 everytime i leave synapse frequencies are on 1.7
Checked permissions of different files and folders all seems to be right so far.
Have you any advice?
Reinstalled app.. cleared cache + dalvik ...I´m on latest Liberty ROM
Thanks for your time and work...to support this device
greets
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i'm out of thanks..haha
thanks for the report..next release i will lock the cpu frequncies down to stock.. as explained earlier..we have a closed source binary named "pnpmgr" that does frequency scaling on its own..so no matter how you change frequencies it will always revert to what that binary wants..
kairi_zeroblade said:
i'm out of thanks..haha
thanks for the report..next release i will lock the cpu frequncies down to stock.. as explained earlier..we have a closed source binary named "pnpmgr" that does frequency scaling on its own..so no matter how you change frequencies it will always revert to what that binary wants..
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Hey Kairi
Ok I understand...so I have a question ...ist it possible to make one with oc enabled
and one without?
Or is this too much work for you?
thanks + greets
shivasrage said:
Hey Kairi
Ok I understand...so I have a question ...ist it possible to make one with oc enabled
and one without?
Or is this too much work for you?
thanks + greets
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sure i could..that's one amazing suggestion..CPU OC or both CPU and GPU removed??
Quantum-Kernel for the SM-T230NU
If your still around and remember me from the old days, I m back and have with me a better version than I've built that includes new frequencies added. No more jumping frequencies!
For now on all builds will go to test folder until we find the perfect one.
WARNING! I AM NOT responsible for bricked deviceS, install at your OWN risk!
NOW LET THE FUN BEGIN!
Features:
-based on android 4.4.
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oc to 1482....for now.
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- custom governors, Lionheart, dancedance, Wheatley.
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Changelog :
Added fiops and fifo schedulers, along with "darkness" CPU Governor. V3 only
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V3.3 will be up tommorow, which includes the hotplugging, ksm and f2fs support
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beany23 said:
Custom kernel for the SM-T230NU.
If your still around and remember me from the old days, I m back and have with me a better version than I've built that includes new frequencies added. No more jumping frequencies anymore.
Features:
-based on android 4.4.2
- oc up to 1768
- custom governors, Lionheart, dancedance, Wheatley.
-based off of @CTXz source.
Downloads:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2jufhxli7izan0t/BeastKernel-unified.zip
P.s. I've been seeing something about android 5.0 coming to our device, if someone would be wanting a kernel built let me know. Post a link and I'll get to it but until then here ya go .
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sadly not my device sm-t231 lol i was searching for kernel for our device as u can see on the q&a tab 4 the timing is rite but sadly not my device
aqeelmessi10 said:
sadly not my device sm-t231 lol i was searching for kernel for our device as u can see on the q&a tab 4 the timing is rite but sadly not my device
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I haven't built one for the smt231 before....how hard could it be.
U have the degaswifi3g right?
This kernel made my T230 lag more with graphics than normally. (Only little bit though)
I didn't notice any performance increase otherwise either.
Also I think battery drain is much higher in deepsleep than in stock kernel. I had this problem with earlier custom kernels too.
But would be awesome if it gets more stable some day. Good job trying to still give a life for this old tab:good:
keikari said:
This kernel made my T230 lag more with graphics than normally. (Only little bit though)
I didn't notice any performance increase otherwise either.
Also I think battery drain is much higher in deepsleep than in stock kernel. I had this problem with earlier custom kernels too.
But would be awesome if it gets more stable some day. Good job trying to still give a life for this old tab:good:
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Ya i figured out why too, when I was building back in 2015 I always struggled to get the CPU running smooth. I've found out that the kernel can run at 1768 but struggles due to the ram and axi, which both can only run so high. I've dropped the max to 1586 and plan on leaving it there because its is a lot smoother and over clocking the axi and ram improved the smoothness quite a bit but that literally the max I can get it for now. Will post another build tonight for you to check out.
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Sorry its taking some time. Something I changed is causing a bootloop, I'm trying to fix it now
keikari said:
This kernel made my T230 lag more with graphics than normally. (Only little bit though)
I didn't notice any performance increase otherwise either.
Also I think battery drain is much higher in deepsleep than in stock kernel. I had this problem with earlier custom kernels too.
But would be awesome if it gets more stable some day. Good job trying to still give a life for this old tab:good:
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Try the new test build see how it is.
beany23 said:
Try the new test build see how it is.
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It feels lagging too. Stock kernel lags too, but with it you can pull top bar down more smoothly(I think). This tab is kind of laggy with UI animations anyway so a bit hard to say is there a difference. I will still leave it installed over night to see how much battery it drains while in deep sleep with no wifi. Also even if it's lagging the cpu usage doesn't seem to need to go over 50% when using kernel adiutor(I only tried to pull top bar down switch menu though, but with this lag I though it should go higher). Not sure how high did the stock kernel cpu usage rise. Will check tomorrow when I install it back.
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Try the new test build see how it is.
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I don't think here was any higher battery drain in deep sleep than with stock kernel. I think the cpu usage goes higher in stock(when just pulling menus in kernel adiutor, but now they move smooth/smoother). Also now I'm sure the stock kernel is much smoother with animations.
keikari said:
I don't think here was any higher battery drain in deep sleep than with stock kernel. I think the cpu usage goes higher in stock(when just pulling menus in kernel adiutor, but now they move smooth/smoother). Also now I'm sure the stock kernel is much smoother with animations.
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I'm not home at the moment but I'll see what I can do when I get back.
keikari said:
It feels lagging too. Stock kernel lags too, but with it you can pull top bar down more smoothly(I think). This tab is kind of laggy with UI animations anyway so a bit hard to say is there a difference. I will still leave it installed over night to see how much battery it drains while in deep sleep with no wifi. Also even if it's lagging the cpu usage doesn't seem to need to go over 50% when using kernel adiutor(I only tried to pull top bar down switch menu though, but with this lag I though it should go higher). Not sure how high did the stock kernel cpu usage rise. Will check tomorrow when I install it back.
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posted another test kernel. i took out the 156 frequency for now, seemed to make it buggy
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posted another test kernel. i took out the 156 frequency for now, seemed to make it buggy
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Where did you posted the new kernel?
keikari said:
I don't think here was any higher battery drain in deep sleep than with stock kernel. I think the cpu usage goes higher in stock(when just pulling menus in kernel adiutor, but now they move smooth/smoother). Also now I'm sure the stock kernel is much smoother with animations.
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keikari said:
Where did you posted the new kernel?
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Under the test builds it's v2
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Under the test builds it's v2
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I only see the one(the first) link under test builds.
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I only see the one(the first) link under test builds.
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https://www.mediafire.com/file/ip1ylwgperyf8iy/BeastKernel-testv2.zip
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posted another test kernel. i took out the 156 frequency for now, seemed to make it buggy
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Yeah, now it is at least as smooth as stock kernel. I think some apps move a bit snappier. I'm gonna stick with this version for now.
keikari said:
Yeah, now it is at least as smooth as stock kernel. I think some apps move a bit snappier. I'm gonna stick with this version for now.
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Awesome that its better, also do your games open at all? I'm having issues with them not opening
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Awesome that its better, also do your games open at all? I'm having issues with them not opening
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I don't have any games in tab. Which game doesn't load, I can install and check if it works for me.
keikari said:
I don't have any games in tab. Which game doesn't load, I can install and check if it works for me.
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Turbo racing jetpack joyride. Games I tried testing but wouldn't open