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THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR DEVS ON THE MATTER OF UNDERVOLT
According to the guy who made setcpu.
pershoot just changed the voltage used by adjusting the voltages (in mV) in the acpu_freq_tbl table in acpuclock-scorpion.c
So if we just edit the table in our own acpuclock-arm11.c(or acpuclock-arm11.c-OCing), that should give us undervolt?
It can't be that simple?
Code:
/* MSM7201A Levels 3-6 all correspond to 1.2V, level 7 corresponds to 1.325V. */
enum {
VDD_0 = 0,
VDD_1 = 1,
VDD_2 = 2,
VDD_3 = 3,
VDD_4 = 4,
VDD_5 = 5,
VDD_6 = 6,
VDD_7 = 7,
VDD_END
};
Thanks to kleranc for idea.
I should probably update this since it has been reincarnated for some reason. lol.
Regardless, this image will explain everything(thanks jus10o for the nice drawing):
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I have to be clear about a few things though:
Under my own testing, and from my own experiences; our processor isn't capable of exerting itself that much. So if you are using an undervolted kernel, it really only undervolts the higher frequencies as you can see in the table above. This is good and bad.
Good: Because you're not using that much juice from the battery and you keep a lower core temp
Bad: Because you may notice performance loss
It also has to be noted that not all processors will behave equally: you may experience no performance loss, or you may experience complete loss. It's a roll of the dice.
About lower frequencies and undervolting(from GSM Hero forum):
dipje said:
To all
Now, about the 'undervolting': A lot of talk and discussion has been going on in the kernel thread(s), and I think every kernel 'hacker' in the end ended up with pretty much the same frequency table and settings. Going lower than VDD_3 ended up in waking-issues or not-responding heroes. Some worked, most didn't. You see the ROMs here and there that used 19mhz and / or VDD_2 or lower now releasing updated versions with just a bit more juice and mhz during sleep, because some heroes really aren't waking up properly.
Or aging 7200 just needs a bit of juice apparently
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Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
Mr. Biggz said:
Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
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Well at higher-frequencies we'd benefit a lot on battery life. With just about everyone using Overclock kernels, this could really help out.
For some of us, battery life means a lot.
So phusson has a simple fix for dropping VDD levels.
Here
Name sounds familiar? Yeah he's the same guy who helped us get overlocking on our msm7k phones
So credit to him. Should have somthing ready by tomorrow.
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Yes it would increase the heat, but no substantially. Besides, we wouldn't decrease the voltage too much. Finding just a "safe" undervolt to conserve battery(if it exists).
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Huh? Excuse me, but I have an engineering background too (materials science) and must have missed that lecture. What is the principle behind this? I'm really skeptical because I'm 99% sure from my years of PC modding experience that a lower voltage is synonymous with better battery life, longer life-time (opposite effect of over-volting), and lower temperatures.
There are no disadvantages other than instability, which only happens if your voltage is TOO low.
Edit: here's a source that backs my claim
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...es/235824-undervolting-guide.html#post3183068
Sparticuz said:
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
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But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
RE: c00ller
I have to agree with c00ller on this. As an engineer with a physics background, and more importantly, an avid PC overclocker, it is considered common knowledge that lower voltages produce less heat, decrease power consumption, and sacrifice stability at higher clock speeds.
Considering that some of our hero's can be clocked up to 768 mHz stable, undervolting should be doable to a reasonable extent. In fact, if somebody wanted to keep stock frequencies, ie up to only 528, a significant amount of undervolting could probably be accomplished.
foolforfood said:
But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
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Check out my blue echo rom later tonight. Decadence just built me a boot.img for my rom with oc/UV at 710 oc and free autokiller built in. Ill upload tonight and its a sense based rom
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
Bradart said:
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
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Read my post above urs. That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted. I'm running it now and it work just great
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
foolforfood said:
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
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Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
Papa Smurf151 said:
Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
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Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
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Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
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Don't thank me...thank decadence
Papa Smurf151 said:
That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted.
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Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
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Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
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That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
Papa Smurf151 said:
That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
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Just to clarify kernel != ramdisk .
The kernel is #15 from darchdroid 2.7 from the uv.zip just thrown together with the ramdisk from 2.3.3. That equals the new boot.img.
I'd like to present to you my first publicly shared kernel, based mainly and solely upon the "stock" CM9 kernel, before they in the future if they decide to, make the jump to a 3.x based kernel. This is a compilation of the talented developers I've had time to get to know and befriend as well as learn from but this is also meant to be as close to the "stock" CM9 kernel without adding anything to drastic. And will remain at this point for the times to come.
What it includes:
Governors the newer ones included were ported over by Nubecoder to EpicCM: performance, ondemand, powersave, userspace, conservative, interactive, interactiveX, smartassV2.
The Overclock steps are based off of Toadlife's Clean-GB, which is based off of the work of Rodderik, as well as the corrected steps which are a product of him and Cyc/dyehya. The steps range from [100,200,400,600,800,1000,1128,1200] and will remain at these levels.
It includes the force reboot button combination from Froyo brought forth into Gingerbread by the combined efforts/guidance of Nubecoder, Tortle and Mkasick.
Kexec support for those who wish to tempflash CWM5BML zip to update modems, Kexec is a product of mkasick's ingeniuty(pure genius I have to say.) And the zip for that flash is a process of the invaluable work of wtogami.
Support for Dock Audio is credited to bbelos, as well as voodoo color in the voodoo color specific version.
Voodoo Sound has been added in from the simplified commits of KernelSanders which is the work of zman0900, which is based off of the work of Earthbound[iAP] so I'd like thank both of them as well.
I'd like to thank Tortel and noobnl, for the initial wave of custom MTD stock TW kernels, it's unrelated but I've no reason not to thank my friends haha and then thank Nubecoder for his own create_boot.img method, which is quite excellent.
And finally so I shut up, in no specific order: Decad3nce, UberPinguin, mkasick, noobnl, DRockstar, nullghost, Tortel, Nubecoder, wtogami, Rodderik, jt1134, dameon78, wispofattes, and many others who greatly contributed to work involving CyanogenMod.
Github Repositories:
Kernel: ICS is stock with voodoo sound/ShurikenVoodoo is ShurikenVoodoo.
Shuriken
Boot.img conversion:
Create_boot.img CM9
Changelog and Downloads Links:
What's new:
As of 1.1: TUN, CIF, TCPMSS added in.
As of 1.2: Default Gamma Levels on ShurikenVoodoo were adapted by helpful suggestion of bbelos, as well as updated the recovery initramfs, scrolling shouldn't be buggy any longer.
As of 1.3: Addition of RNDIS as well as removal of 1.3, 1.4 from OC, it tops off at 1.2 ghz now, for some stability when overclocking.
As of 1.4: Added in bug fixes from CM9 kernel, involving that of Camera as well as kswapd0. Current Recovery initramfs is odd and shows a weirdness when installing, doesn't display all information.
As of 1.5: Voltage Control output is now fixed, all steps should be recognized, as well as matching Kernel commits with upstream, will be compatible with Alpha 3 when Alpha 3 drops, otherwise not a major update, just keeping it up to date.
As of 1.6: Multitouch protocol fixes by Mkasick, up to date with stock.
As of 1.7: Added 1.3 ghz back in stable, not going any higher than this. No updates to stock kernel, so currently up to date.
As of 1.7-1: Added in ability to disable steps. 1128, 1200, 1316 are disabled by default, for the sake of choice.
Download Links: Updated 2/27/12
Stock with Voodoo Sound:
Shuriken.zip
Voodoo-Sound/Color:
ShurikenVoodoo.zip
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Done by TexasEpic4G, thanks man.
As always with voodoo color, when the brightness is too low depending on your settings the green screen tint can occur, I hope you enjoy the experience until your favorite kernels get up to speed.
Messing with settings within Voodoo Control can alleviate this issue via,
bbelos said:
If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
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As a disclaimer, this kernel isn't fine tuned towards Overclocking as that of the likes of Samurai Kernel but it's not intended to be Samurai kernel or be like Samurai kernel, it's just what it is. The methods to compile my kernel as well as means to build a CM9 MTD boot.img(original method created by nubecoder) are above at my repo's within the OP if anyone would feel the need to go about doing it themselves, as a learning process, I'd be open to help anyone who feels like they want to try.
Reserving for my buddy, he can always change it to him lol
I was first to download. Woohoo. Muchas gracius!
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Woah What's up with the weird Freqs. Steps?
But would you think you'll put 1500 in future I know you said those were it but just asking you never know. But if not that's ok how does those steps work with the EPIC we never ran those steps before.
Ill wait for a more stable relase for CM9 and then make the switch From CM7.
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Also so it's noted now, any problems bugs you have which you feel are kernel related should be posted within here, and not the main CM9 thread if you're running my kernel. So we can lessen the overall rush towards posting within that thread. Thanks guys.
AproSamurai said:
Also so it's noted now, any problems bugs you have which you feel are kernel related should be posted within here, and not the main CM9 thread if you're running my kernel. So we can lessen the overall rush towards posting within that thread. Thanks guys.
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APRO FTW!!!!!!
XxLostSoulxX said:
Woah What's up with the weird Freqs. Steps?
But would you think you'll put 1500 in future I know you said those were it but just asking you never know. But if not that's ok how does those steps work with the EPIC we never ran those steps before.
Ill wait for a more stable relase for CM9 and then make the switch From CM7.
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It's based off of Toadlife's steps for his CleanGB, and honestly for my own personal preference I won't be putting 1500 into my kernel, Earthbound will have his kernel up to CM9 in no time I'm sure, as well as bbelos. I've tested and messed with each of the steps for the sake of use, but otherwise this isn't meant to be a permanent contender kernel wise, just meant for a part time use to hold people off at launch for a bit.
AproSamurai said:
As always with voodoo color, when the brightness is too low depending on your settings the green screen tint can occur, I hope you enjoy the experience until your favorite kernels get up to speed.
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If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
bbelos said:
If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
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Much appreciated, I'll be sure to put this in the OP as a potential fix.
Nice works well appreciate it samurai
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bbelos said:
If you see the green tint when the screen dims, typically this can be fixed by raising the gamma values in the Voodoo Control app. Choose either punchy or alt settings at first to test, then you could lower them back down gradually as far as you can.
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Well i usually got green tint because i'm too high anything below -50 is good in Gamma Value.
My best Values are -46,-47,-36
Biggoron said:
Nice works well appreciate it samurai
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Heh, I'm glad to hear it, if you suffer any random reboots, that's not due to the kernel, it's a ram issue. It's being looked into and worked. But I'll keep up to date as much as I can, Shadow Kernel should be getting updated soon.
Nice work Apro! I wondered when you'd go for a public release
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Heh, I'm glad to hear it, if you suffer any random reboots, that's not due to the kernel, it's a ram issue. It's being looked into and worked. But I'll keep up to date as much as I can, Shadow Kernel should be getting updated soon.
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Nope ram is running around 150mbs used not bad usually around 100 but I can deal with it till its fixed
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Congratz Apro !
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Nope ram is running around 150mbs used not bad usually around 100 but I can deal with it till its fixed
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Huh how i'm not running any apps right now and am around 230MB usually sometimes around 192MB.
And everything is getting cleared, and all apps are closed too.
Still Running CM7
TexasEpic4G said:
Congratz Apro !
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Oooo Thank you very much brother, I dig that, it's going in my signature for sure.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Huh how i'm not running any apps right now and am around 230MB usually sometimes around 192MB.
And everything is getting cleared, and all apps are closed too.
Still Running CM7
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Running servies not a task managers reading
Edit: 169mbs used according to a task manager
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Using this right now. Thanks for the quick port.
Is TUN, CIFS, and TCPMSS support turned on? Also, a pet peeve of mine is kernels that change the build number... Any chance you could switch to the localversion string instead (where custom kernel info arguably belongs, see my Github, bbelos's Github, et al)?
EDIT: Apro contacted me on IRC, questions answered.
How do you tell if which type of cpu your phone has? I've looked and can't seem to find out how to check my phone to see which I have. My cpu always seems to run hot no matter what type of kernel I try, and I'm wondering if the cpu may be slow and not capable of tweaking.
Any help someone can give me would be great.
To find out which processor you have, use Terminal Emulator from the Play Store. Reboot then type this command:
su
dmesg | grep ACPU
Here's an explanation of what this means and also recommended voltage settings for each processor type courtesy of a very knowledgeable, helpful, and great kernel dev: Imoseyon. Any "thanks" goes to him and not me for providing all this info.
Post #1341, just read Imoseyon's response to me:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31329-ke...11012/page__st__1340__p__1034933#entry1034933
Imoseyon post #1418 for recommended voltage settings per cpu type:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31329-ke...-kernel-v16-11012/page__st__1410#entry1042976
This is the output I get from that command. How am I supposed to interpret this as fas, nominal, or slow?
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Try it again after rebooting, mine works each time
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How do you tell if which type of cpu your phone has? I've looked and can't seem to find out how to check my phone to see which I have. My cpu always seems to run hot no matter what type of kernel I try, and I'm wondering if the cpu may be slow and not capable of tweaking.
Any help someone can give me would be great.
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Found it. For anyone else that may be looking, go to this site and follow the directions. You'll need terminal installed on your phone. It works on any GS3.
http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/top...eankernel-tw-jb-imoseyon-droidroidz-usc-v141/
Finally, it worked.
Is there a performance difference between a slow CPU, a nominal CPU, and a fast CPU?
BlueCross said:
Finally, it worked.
Is there a performance difference between a slow CPU, a nominal CPU, and a fast CPU?
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Not that I know of, you can run pretty much any kernel stock as well as adjust governors and io scheduler. The primary difference is in how much you can UC/OC or even UV/OV and how well your CPU can hold those tweaks without fear of bootlooping or instability. But as far as just flashing kernels and leaving them there, you're fine. Like I said, I'm basing this all off of what Imoseyon has said so he is WAY more knowledgeable in this area if you need additional input. This slow, nominal, fast cpu exists based on the manufacturer process so its not something you can adjust. It's permanently set with the cpu.
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Not that I know of, you can run pretty much any kernel stock as well as adjust governors and io scheduler. The primary difference is in how much you can UC/OC or even UV/OV and how well your CPU can hold those tweaks without fear of bootlooping or instability. But as far as just flashing kernels and leaving them there, you're fine. Like I said, I'm basing this all off of what Imoseyon has said so he is WAY more knowledgeable in this area if you need additional input. This slow, nominal, fast cpu exists based on the manufacturer process so its not something you can adjust. It's permanently set with the cpu.
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The basis for the difference in CPUs is the same as car Manufacturing. Part's are divided by spec tolerances. The closer to spec is the difference. In car terms GM separates parts according to how close they are to spec. Fast would go in Cadillac, Nominal Buick and slow Chevrolet. They all use the same part just have closer spec tolerance. :laugh:
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The basis for the difference in CPUs is the same as car Manufacturing. Part's are divided by spec tolerances. The closer to spec is the difference. In car terms GM separates parts according to how close they are to spec. Fast would go in Cadillac, Nominal Buick and slow Chevrolet. They all use the same part just have closer spec tolerance. :laugh:
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I can always count on this guy to drop some thorough knowledge.
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I tried this and got an error message :
sh: grep: not found
write: Broken pipe
I'm on stock rooted, and I granted the su permission.
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I tried this and got an error message :
sh: grep: not found
write: Broken pipe
I'm on stock rooted, and I granted the su permission.
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Have to do immediately after a reboot and some custom boot animations will keep it from working.
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Have to do immediately after a reboot and some custom boot animations will keep it from working.
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No custom animation. I got rid of my lock screen to get to my homescreen faster and added a shortcut to the terminal app. I started typing as soon as the app would let me and got the same error.
Your busybox install must be borked. Download busybox free from the playstore and do a "smart install"
prdog1 said:
The basis for the difference in CPUs is the same as car Manufacturing. Part's are divided by spec tolerances. The closer to spec is the difference. In car terms GM separates parts according to how close they are to spec. Fast would go in Cadillac, Nominal Buick and slow Chevrolet. They all use the same part just have closer spec tolerance. :laugh:
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As a general rule, CPUs that come off the same fab are tested and then placed into different "bins", based on how they perform at different speeds and voltages. The better performing "top bin", chips get rated and sold at the highest clock speed. The slower chips get a lower clock speed assigned, and are sold at a lower price.
This method works well for AMD and Intel, who both sell a wide range of clock speeds for a particular generation CPU at different price points. It eliminates waste by enabling them to sell the lower performing chips instead of rejecting or destroying them, and allows them to offer different price points which is beneficial from a marketing perspective.
With phones, the CPUs are often clocked the same (e.g. [email protected] 1.5 GHz), but the CPUs still range in capability depending on their mfg tolerances, and in the case of our Snapdragon S2s, they are tagged accordingly. Whether you end up with a slow or fast chip in your phone is totally random, but frequently your chances of getting a faster chip increase over time as the fab process is fine tuned, and chip yields go up.
That doesn't mean you can't get a fast CPU right off the bat. For example, I pre-ordered mine on day 1 (June 6th?) and still got a fast CPU.
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Your busybox install must be borked. Download busybox free from the playstore and do a "smart install"
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That worked, thanks!
Now I know I'm nominal. The first line says "ACPU PVS: [1],FMAX[0]". It's different from the other 2 posted results in this thread (all 3 are actually different). What do those numbers mean?
I was lucky enough to have a fast CPU; which values on those charts do I want? I opened Kernel Turner and went to "Voltage" and it is a bunch of weird numbers--and I see something for "-1.5 across board," how many times should I hit that? I'm assuming that's how you undervolt.
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I was lucky enough to have a fast CPU; which values on those charts do I want? I opened Kernel Turner and went to "Voltage" and it is a bunch of weird numbers--and I see something for "-1.5 across board," how many times should I hit that? I'm assuming that's how you undervolt.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36743286
Would this apply for his aosp kernel as well? The 4.2 kernel?
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Hi,
First post in this forum in a long time. Or maybe ever.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I'm new to this ROM, and had a stable one in my Thunderbolt, so was away from flashing for almost a year. Just got a vz S3, rooted it as soon as I got home, and after doing some research, decided on Liquid Smooth. Downloaded Liquid-JB-v2.1-Beta3.1-d2vzw this morning, so whatever the latest version as of this morning (Jan 23) is what I flashed. Also got the correct gapps. All went well, and so far, I like what I've seen. (Thanks, developers, this has been the EASIEST flash to a new rom I've ever done.
One problem, and I hope someone can point me in the right direction, as I'm googled out on trying to find a solution.
When I go to settings, performance, current, or, maximum CPU frequency, the highest it goes it 1512. The youtube videos on this show choices up to 1900.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
Thank you.
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Just installed Setcpu, and it would not allow (nor show) any setting higher than 1512.
Thanks again for any insight.
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Hi,
First post in this forum in a long time. Or maybe ever.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I'm new to this ROM, and had a stable one in my Thunderbolt, so was away from flashing for almost a year. Just got a vz S3, rooted it as soon as I got home, and after doing some research, decided on Liquid Smooth. Downloaded Liquid-JB-v2.1-Beta3.1-d2vzw this morning, so whatever the latest version as of this morning (Jan 23) is what I flashed. Also got the correct gapps. All went well, and so far, I like what I've seen. (Thanks, developers, this has been the EASIEST flash to a new rom I've ever done.
One problem, and I hope someone can point me in the right direction, as I'm googled out on trying to find a solution.
When I go to settings, performance, current, or, maximum CPU frequency, the highest it goes it 1512. The youtube videos on this show choices up to 1900.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
Thank you.
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tprophit said:
Hi,
First post in this forum in a long time. Or maybe ever.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I'm new to this ROM, and had a stable one in my Thunderbolt, so was away from flashing for almost a year. Just got a vz S3, rooted it as soon as I got home, and after doing some research, decided on Liquid Smooth. Downloaded Liquid-JB-v2.1-Beta3.1-d2vzw this morning, so whatever the latest version as of this morning (Jan 23) is what I flashed. Also got the correct gapps. All went well, and so far, I like what I've seen. (Thanks, developers, this has been the EASIEST flash to a new rom I've ever done.
One problem, and I hope someone can point me in the right direction, as I'm googled out on trying to find a solution.
When I go to settings, performance, current, or, maximum CPU frequency, the highest it goes it 1512. The youtube videos on this show choices up to 1900.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
Thank you.
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Just installed Setcpu, and it would not allow (nor show) any setting higher than 1512.
Thanks again for any insight.
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You need to run a custom kernel that is overclockable. The stock kernel on liquid isnt overclockable from what I remember.
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BlueCross said:
Would this apply for his aosp kernel as well? The 4.2 kernel?
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Ya, its hardware level so it doesnt make a difference what rom you are running.
Click the above image to visit the official forum. There are documented details and the Donation link
This is an unoffical experimental build of ResurrectionRemix_LP for the Nexus 7(2012).
Latest 5.1.1_r3 (LMY48B)
Please refer to the tilapia thread for details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3031614
Awesome! My favorite rom and thanks for the 5.3.6 update.
Mike T
Is it stable for day to day?
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Thanks for the new release! Version 5.3.7 has been running great on my grouper, now will test version 5.3.8 and then probably sit tight until CM merges in LP 5.1.
Version 5.3.7 was an excellent release, stable with all the great extra features and the addition of being able to make a custom nav button for the power menu. I don't think any other custom rom has that feature yet but then again, I'm not checking/testing many other roms since you started building RR.
Thanks again for the great work and a great rom.
Mike T
Hi Daniel, thanks for the new 5.1 build. I believe it's the first CM12.1 based rom released for grouper/tilapia...Congrats! Thank you for your work on getting this done so quickly.
I haven't really tested very much, I'm on EST and I'm about to get some sleep. The one thing I initially came across is wifi/settings/advanced force closes.
Also, just for further info, I tried dirty flashing this over RR v 5.3.8 while also flashing Banks latest 5.1 gapps and I got multiple force closes of Google apps, like Gmail and Youtube. A clean flash solved the problem. I also noticed that on initial setup, it takes a fairly long time to process the google connection. It almost looks like it's going to hang. I think this is just something new with CM12.1, as I experienced the same behavior on another device with a CM12.1 based rom. Although in that instance, I had to skip initial setup and let it boot into the OS before setting up wifi and google account.
Thank again for the build, I'll be re-setting it up and testing it out over the next little while.
Mike T
webdroidmt said:
Hi Daniel, thanks for the new 5.1 build. I believe it's the first CM12.1 based rom released for grouper/tilapia...Congrats! Thank you for your work on getting this done so quickly.
I haven't really tested very much, I'm on EST and I'm about to get some sleep. The one thing I initially came across is wifi/settings/advanced force closes.
Also, just for further info, I tried dirty flashing this over RR v 5.3.8 while also flashing Banks latest 5.1 gapps and I got multiple force closes of Google apps, like Gmail and Youtube. A clean flash solved the problem. I also noticed that on initial setup, it takes a fairly long time to process the google connection. It almost looks like it's going to hang. I think this is just something new with CM12.1, as I experienced the same behavior on another device with a CM12.1 based rom. Although in that instance, I had to skip initial setup and let it boot into the OS before setting up wifi and google account.
Thank again for the build, I'll be re-setting it up and testing it out over the next little while.
Mike T
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Mike, keep us informed on how it runs please. I want to try CM12.1 myself, or any ROM based on it for that matter. I've had no luck with any 5.1 based ROM as of yet.
EDIT: Installed it myself as well, but it looks like it may take a very long time to restore the apps. Will report back later.
Please add the download link in the op, rather than to advertise your forum.......
I just wanted to say that after a day of use I find this to be a fantastic ROM. Far too bloated for me but I can debloat it myself. It seems to be stable and fast, but no faster than freakslim. I can't wait until I can figure out how to run this at 1.6ghz then I suspect it will be faster then anything else I have ever tried.
Very good ROM. I highly recommend people try it.
Sent from my Nexus 7
Im having fc with package installer any help would be thankfull
I downloaded the 5.3.9 version (md5 matched), flashed it and lockscreen would always stay black and unlockable. I thought it was a bug, and wiped and flashed again with no gapps. Started facing constant random reboots and I could no longer boot into TWRP, it would just stay at the TWRP splash screen. Fastboot flashed various versions of TWRP but no luck. The only option I had was to flash factory image and wipe off everything.
Scorpn let me know how it runs on 1.6 if good would you think it be as stable as freakslim?
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Scorpn let me know how it runs on 1.6 if good would you think it be as stable as freakslim?
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Well, I don't think any of these LP roms are stable. Freaks ROM was never really stable for me, it was just very fast, fastest ROM so far, but its based on 5.0.2. I have not found one yet that I consider stable, not LP based anyway. And is there a kernel that overclocks for use on 5.1 ROMs? I have not tried M-Kernel because he has not updated it to 5.1 yet.
I was "thinking" about trying stock 5.1, but that is almost like me trying to live without breathing. Just the word "Stock" makes me cringe....
Has anyone found a way to overclock these 5.1 based ROMs yet? I really need my 1.5 ghz or 1.6 ghz back. Thanks
SkOrPn said:
Has anyone found a way to overclock these 5.1 based ROMs yet? I really need my 1.5 ghz or 1.6 ghz back. Thanks
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Try this one [emoji6]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920628
Works great for me [emoji106]
keep calm and have a Nexus
1haumann1 said:
Try this one [emoji6]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920628
Works great for me [emoji106]
keep calm and have a Nexus
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Hmm, that is a 5.1 based kernel? Strange that the OP completely left out that most important piece of info...
It's not 5.1 based but works
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Hmm, that is a 5.1 based kernel? Strange that the OP completely left out that most important piece of info...
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Please enlighten me which piece I left out?
I have already included the local_manifest.xml for building this rom. Same as the official Resurrection_Remix ROMs, I use the CyanogenMod kernel.
My Tilapia is a daily driver. Stability and battery life is my main concern. I tried M-kernel. It did't work without modification. I felt the back cover getting hot after a while. I don't think it is good for battery life. Anyway, if you think O/C is essential, just do your own mod. It is the fun part of Android. There are already a few good kernels waiting for you to test.
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Please add the download link in the op, rather than to advertise your forum.......
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Some of you guys must be come from a wealthy region and your parents are taking really good care of you. You may get whatever you want by shouting for mummy or daddy. I came from a poor family. My father died when I was at grade school. My mother don't have the resource and education rising us to be some fat and self retarded kid who complaining for an extra mouse click. Most of the time, I have to figure out things myself.
In the real world, we can't get everything we want. We can get something if we are working hard for it. It's time to grow up.
Someone from my Tilapia thread suggested me to add a thread here. I think its a good idea but I don't want to update two separate threads with the same content. So I just included a link.
I cherish a few nice words, a thank or a report (even if it's mean) but I don't think I need this kind of virtual publicity. I would follow RR as genuine as possible, I don't think I can fulfil every need. So I just give my thread one star.
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Please enlighten me which piece I left out?
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Sorry Daniel, I wasn't talking about your OP (Your OP is fantastic), I was talking about the Bricked kernels OP not mentioning something important, but I now realize its not mentioned for a good reason. lol
Oh, and yes running 1.5ghz or 1.6ghz (my preferred mhz) as was intended by NVIDIA, (1.5 Ghz is NOT an overclock, it is the Tegra3 sweet spot and what the Engineers intended this CPU to run at), but 1.2ghz is a under-clock and can introduce unseen instabilities. Instead, if I limit the device to two cores at 1.5ghz which is all Android uses/needs anyway and using my own settings I get a device that gives me more battery life and a rom that feels twice as fast at everything. The ONLY reason it has a QUAD core cpu, is because Specs sell, even though the engineers knows that Android does not need four cores, the fact is if they introduce an 8 core device, it would greatly sell just because it has 8 cores. The Quad Spec was simply for selling more of them at the time, NOT for a performance boost. There is no reason why we can't have more stability, more battery life and more speed, I just need the settings present so I can dial that in... By the way 1.2ghz on four cores burns more power then 2 cores at 1.5ghz, but 1.5ghz on Android is faster then 1.2ghz, on my N7 anyway. So, I just prefer to utilize the cores more efficiently, that's all. This device needs more mhz, not more cores. My N7 is super stable at both 1.5 and 1.6ghz, and it is only when I try 1.7ghz that it loses any stability. All CPU's get warm when turned on (I worked for Intel for a very long time, I know this), so if I can feel the heat on the back that just tells me the Thermal Interface is working efficiently. Its not a sign that something is wrong with the device.
Anyway, I'm not a Software developer, I'm an Intel Electronics Technician by trade, so I don't want to try and build my own kernel, I get a headache if I stay at the screen too long anyway, haha. Which is why I asked if someone knew of a 5.1 based kernel that already had more settings potential. Its perfectly OK if one isn't available yet, but I can still ask around? I been here at XDA since before the Android days (Windows Mobile first brought me here) and the one thing I learned is that this place is intended for asking questions. I have hundreds of helpful posts spread out over nearly 8 years, so I "should" have the right to ask if a kernel exists that suits my device and usage patterns better. Right? :good: It was just a friendly question anyway.
Your OP is great, and your ROM is awesome Daniel. I just want to "try" and get more out of it like I did with all the previous ROMs I have used. Thanks :good:
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1haumann1 said:
Try this one [emoji6]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920628
Works great for me [emoji106]
keep calm and have a Nexus
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Thanks for turning me on to that Kernel. I though it wouldnt work so I just avoided trying it. Thanks again bud :good:
SkOrPn said:
Sorry Daniel, I wasn't talking about your OP (Your OP is fantastic), I was talking about the Bricked kernels OP not mentioning something important, but I now realize its not mentioned for a good reason. lol
Oh, and yes running 1.5ghz or 1.6ghz (my preferred mhz) as was intended by NVIDIA, (1.5 Ghz is NOT an overclock, it is the Tegra3 sweet spot and what the Engineers intended this CPU to run at), but 1.2ghz is a under-clock and can introduce unseen instabilities. Instead, if I limit the device to two cores at 1.5ghz which is all Android uses/needs anyway and using my own settings I get a device that gives me more battery life and a rom that feels twice as fast at everything. The ONLY reason it has a QUAD core cpu, is because Specs sell, even though the engineers knows that Android does not need four cores, the fact is if they introduce an 8 core device, it would greatly sell just because it has 8 cores. The Quad Spec was simply for selling more of them at the time, NOT for a performance boost. There is no reason why we can't have more stability, more battery life and more speed, I just need the settings present so I can dial that in... By the way 1.2ghz on four cores burns more power then 2 cores at 1.5ghz, but 1.5ghz on Android is faster then 1.2ghz, on my N7 anyway. So, I just prefer to utilize the cores more efficiently, that's all. This device needs more mhz, not more cores. My N7 is super stable at both 1.5 and 1.6ghz, and it is only when I try 1.7ghz that it loses any stability. All CPU's get warm when turned on (I worked for Intel for a very long time, I know this), so if I can feel the heat on the back that just tells me the Thermal Interface is working efficiently. Its not a sign that something is wrong with the device.
Anyway, I'm not a Software developer, I'm an Intel Electronics Technician by trade, so I don't want to try and build my own kernel, I get a headache if I stay at the screen too long anyway, haha. Which is why I asked if someone knew of a 5.1 based kernel that already had more settings potential. Its perfectly OK if one isn't available yet, but I can still ask around? I been here at XDA since before the Android days (Windows Mobile first brought me here) and the one thing I learned is that this place is intended for asking questions. I have hundreds of helpful posts spread out over nearly 8 years, so I "should" have the right to ask if a kernel exists that suits my device and usage patterns better. Right? :good: It was just a friendly question anyway.
Your OP is great, and your ROM is awesome Daniel. I just want to "try" and get more out of it like I did with all the previous ROMs I have used. Thanks :good:
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Thanks for turning me on to that Kernel. I though it wouldnt work so I just avoided trying it. Thanks again bud :good:
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Thanks for the info!
My tab runs on max. 1.3G and it would take longer to generate the same among heat as in 1.5G. I assume that's normal.
In this case, I'll download and study the manual for Tegra3. If I can, I might add higher frequencies to the kernel's table. It seems doesn't hurt to have extra choices.
Further info. are welcome.
Harpratap said:
I downloaded the 5.3.9 version (md5 matched), flashed it and lockscreen would always stay black and unlockable. I thought it was a bug, and wiped and flashed again with no gapps. Started facing constant random reboots and I could no longer boot into TWRP, it would just stay at the TWRP splash screen. Fastboot flashed various versions of TWRP but no luck. The only option I had was to flash factory image and wipe off everything.
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I have the same problem.
Quantum-Kernel for the SM-T230NU
If your still around and remember me from the old days, I m back and have with me a better version than I've built that includes new frequencies added. No more jumping frequencies!
For now on all builds will go to test folder until we find the perfect one.
WARNING! I AM NOT responsible for bricked deviceS, install at your OWN risk!
NOW LET THE FUN BEGIN!
Features:
-based on android 4.4.
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-Kernel version: 3.10
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oc to 1482....for now.
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- custom governors, Lionheart, dancedance, Wheatley.
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-oc axi, ram, and vpu for more stability.
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-f2fs support
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Sources:
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Will add my github commits once i can fix my laptops wifi driver.
Changelog :
Added fiops and fifo schedulers, along with "darkness" CPU Governor. V3 only
Added support in kernel config...(not sure if it works quite yet) V3 only
V3.3 will be up tommorow, which includes the hotplugging, ksm and f2fs support
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Downloads:
Quantum-Kernel
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beany23 said:
Custom kernel for the SM-T230NU.
If your still around and remember me from the old days, I m back and have with me a better version than I've built that includes new frequencies added. No more jumping frequencies anymore.
Features:
-based on android 4.4.2
- oc up to 1768
- custom governors, Lionheart, dancedance, Wheatley.
-based off of @CTXz source.
Downloads:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2jufhxli7izan0t/BeastKernel-unified.zip
P.s. I've been seeing something about android 5.0 coming to our device, if someone would be wanting a kernel built let me know. Post a link and I'll get to it but until then here ya go .
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sadly not my device sm-t231 lol i was searching for kernel for our device as u can see on the q&a tab 4 the timing is rite but sadly not my device
aqeelmessi10 said:
sadly not my device sm-t231 lol i was searching for kernel for our device as u can see on the q&a tab 4 the timing is rite but sadly not my device
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I haven't built one for the smt231 before....how hard could it be.
U have the degaswifi3g right?
This kernel made my T230 lag more with graphics than normally. (Only little bit though)
I didn't notice any performance increase otherwise either.
Also I think battery drain is much higher in deepsleep than in stock kernel. I had this problem with earlier custom kernels too.
But would be awesome if it gets more stable some day. Good job trying to still give a life for this old tab:good:
keikari said:
This kernel made my T230 lag more with graphics than normally. (Only little bit though)
I didn't notice any performance increase otherwise either.
Also I think battery drain is much higher in deepsleep than in stock kernel. I had this problem with earlier custom kernels too.
But would be awesome if it gets more stable some day. Good job trying to still give a life for this old tab:good:
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Ya i figured out why too, when I was building back in 2015 I always struggled to get the CPU running smooth. I've found out that the kernel can run at 1768 but struggles due to the ram and axi, which both can only run so high. I've dropped the max to 1586 and plan on leaving it there because its is a lot smoother and over clocking the axi and ram improved the smoothness quite a bit but that literally the max I can get it for now. Will post another build tonight for you to check out.
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Sorry its taking some time. Something I changed is causing a bootloop, I'm trying to fix it now
keikari said:
This kernel made my T230 lag more with graphics than normally. (Only little bit though)
I didn't notice any performance increase otherwise either.
Also I think battery drain is much higher in deepsleep than in stock kernel. I had this problem with earlier custom kernels too.
But would be awesome if it gets more stable some day. Good job trying to still give a life for this old tab:good:
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Try the new test build see how it is.
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Try the new test build see how it is.
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It feels lagging too. Stock kernel lags too, but with it you can pull top bar down more smoothly(I think). This tab is kind of laggy with UI animations anyway so a bit hard to say is there a difference. I will still leave it installed over night to see how much battery it drains while in deep sleep with no wifi. Also even if it's lagging the cpu usage doesn't seem to need to go over 50% when using kernel adiutor(I only tried to pull top bar down switch menu though, but with this lag I though it should go higher). Not sure how high did the stock kernel cpu usage rise. Will check tomorrow when I install it back.
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Try the new test build see how it is.
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I don't think here was any higher battery drain in deep sleep than with stock kernel. I think the cpu usage goes higher in stock(when just pulling menus in kernel adiutor, but now they move smooth/smoother). Also now I'm sure the stock kernel is much smoother with animations.
keikari said:
I don't think here was any higher battery drain in deep sleep than with stock kernel. I think the cpu usage goes higher in stock(when just pulling menus in kernel adiutor, but now they move smooth/smoother). Also now I'm sure the stock kernel is much smoother with animations.
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I'm not home at the moment but I'll see what I can do when I get back.
keikari said:
It feels lagging too. Stock kernel lags too, but with it you can pull top bar down more smoothly(I think). This tab is kind of laggy with UI animations anyway so a bit hard to say is there a difference. I will still leave it installed over night to see how much battery it drains while in deep sleep with no wifi. Also even if it's lagging the cpu usage doesn't seem to need to go over 50% when using kernel adiutor(I only tried to pull top bar down switch menu though, but with this lag I though it should go higher). Not sure how high did the stock kernel cpu usage rise. Will check tomorrow when I install it back.
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posted another test kernel. i took out the 156 frequency for now, seemed to make it buggy
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posted another test kernel. i took out the 156 frequency for now, seemed to make it buggy
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Where did you posted the new kernel?
keikari said:
I don't think here was any higher battery drain in deep sleep than with stock kernel. I think the cpu usage goes higher in stock(when just pulling menus in kernel adiutor, but now they move smooth/smoother). Also now I'm sure the stock kernel is much smoother with animations.
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keikari said:
Where did you posted the new kernel?
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Under the test builds it's v2
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Under the test builds it's v2
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I only see the one(the first) link under test builds.
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I only see the one(the first) link under test builds.
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https://www.mediafire.com/file/ip1ylwgperyf8iy/BeastKernel-testv2.zip
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posted another test kernel. i took out the 156 frequency for now, seemed to make it buggy
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Yeah, now it is at least as smooth as stock kernel. I think some apps move a bit snappier. I'm gonna stick with this version for now.
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Yeah, now it is at least as smooth as stock kernel. I think some apps move a bit snappier. I'm gonna stick with this version for now.
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Awesome that its better, also do your games open at all? I'm having issues with them not opening
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Awesome that its better, also do your games open at all? I'm having issues with them not opening
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I don't have any games in tab. Which game doesn't load, I can install and check if it works for me.
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I don't have any games in tab. Which game doesn't load, I can install and check if it works for me.
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Turbo racing jetpack joyride. Games I tried testing but wouldn't open