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Dalvik Turbo - Apps 3 times faster

Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
(1 post, cant post any link so just remove the space in between)
It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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sapphireHero said:
Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
(1 post, cant post any link so just remove the space in between)
It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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Exciting to hear, and certainly more legitimate than the dumb 780mhz hoax.
Edit: LOL, Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚'s picture is hilarious.

Don't be expecting much out of it.....
"increases application execution speed by up to three times"
That REALLY is NOT that hard to do. You will note that they do NOT say 3-times across the board! It means that they found at least ONE glitch somewhere where something was running slower than it had to, and in THAT CASE, it results in a speedup with a factor of 3. Note that this particular speedup might result in a SLOW DOWN somewhere else (if they are morons). Second, this "Myriad" doesn't make me feel at all warm or fuzzy -- it feels like proprietary locked-in type nonsense. You know, they kind where this group of douchebags is trying to take over the entire platform by intentionally introducing proprietary incompatibilities.

lbcoder said:
Don't be expecting much out of it.....
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+1
Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind

Pfeffernuss said:
+1
Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind
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major performance boost or no, work like this is what makes Android great. This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device and I, for one, am very pleased at this (pre-)announcement.
can't wait to see some benchmarks.

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This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device....
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No it isn't. This is just some proprietary junk. If it were OHA at work, you'd see contributions being pushed back to the AOSP, which I guarantee you will NOT see here. All this is is a private fork of AOSP/dalvik that those douchebags are trying to SELL.

Myriad whosawhatsit is a founding member of the OHA, folks. I don't know what, precisely, this "Dalvik Turbo" is -- but I //do// know that Myriad was one of the companies involved in developing Dalvik itself. They specialize in virtual machine development.
I //suspect// that this is some special JIT process. But they then turn around and claim that the memory signature impact is low as well. So... who can say?

Sweet deal, buuuut.....
this should be interesting, it seems to me that we have an influx of tools, mods, scripts and hacks and no real new roms. I guess its in part due to the fact that too much is coming out too quick for it to all get implemented. We'll see how it goes.... Hopefully in the next couple weeks we'll see this and all the overclocking hacks integrated into some cool new roms.

So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.

Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚ said:
That's nice.
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****ING ROFL, +1 for you Zalgo.

tehseano said:
So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.
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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.

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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.
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Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744

P_Dub_S said:
Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744
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Thanks a million, I hope this will help game emulators out a bit.

No need to speculate about this as we will see one way or the other next week at MWC. Also guys lets not drag the OC debate into this thread as it's OT and there is enough flame in the thread dedicated for it.

I miss some facts for the "turbo vm".
it could be:
- optimize code (3x faster only with special benchmark...)
- jit compiler (longer startup times)
- jit + store the compiled code (seen on IBM mainframes)
- hot spot compiler (like the actual sun jvm)

I get a
Formatting SYSTEM:...
Copying files...
E:Can't symlink /system/xbin/bb/[[
E:Failure at line 59:
symlink /system/xbin/busybox SYSTEM:xbin/bb/[
Installation aborted.
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after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.

RFE said:
I get a
after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.
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How to speed up a Hero Rom

hi guys i just flashed my G1 wit the hero rom but it lags a lot and the applications don't load fast so how would i speed it up i have 2.1 firmware.

I assume you have King's or Eugene's Eclair hero/espresso?
If your comparing it to a Donut rom then thats why you might think its slow.Also having 200+ apps open if too much so you should get a task killer.If you dont have a swap partition then that might be adding to the slowness.The 2.1 hero from King is as fast as a donut so unless you have alot of widgets it should be fine.

Question in a development forum + Not enough research done + Ignorance of Search bar = Junior Member.
Whts done is done. So u cud flash one with a 10mb hack. Try a 1.5 sense, cuz the eclair has no gpu acceleration as of yet so perhaps thats why you are finding it slow. Use a taskmanager to frequently close running applications. overclock to the max using a market app such as overclock widget or setcpu.

Hero was not the rom if you wanted speed.... fail

hahaha speed? hero? hahahahahaha

hiddengopher said:
hahaha speed? hero? hahahahahaha
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overclocking?

acc697 said:
hi guys i just flashed my G1 wit the hero rom but it lags a lot and the applications don't load fast so how would i speed it up i have 2.1 firmware.
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okay everyone the best way to speed up any rom is to have a class 6 sd card it will run much faster after you get one check out my vid here is a link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIeT6vpqvh4

VoLoDaR1 said:
okay everyone the best way to speed up any rom is to have a class 6 sd card it will run much faster after you get one check out my vid here is a link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIeT6vpqvh4
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I'm actually pretty sure the best way to speed up hero is to not run it

JAguirre1231 said:
I'm actually pretty sure the best way to speed up hero is to not run it
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lol true but all the hero roms i run run smooth no lag but i also have a mytouch3g which is wayyyy faster than a g1 but still before i got my class 6 card they laged on me

VoLoDaR1 said:
lol true but all the hero roms i run run smooth no lag but i also have a mytouch3g which is wayyyy faster than a g1 but still before i got my class 6 card they laged on me
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It only has more Rom not Ram
I have 4 only dont think I need a 6.

VoLoDaR1 said:
lol true but all the hero roms i run run smooth no lag but i also have a mytouch3g which is wayyyy faster than a g1 but still before i got my class 6 card they laged on me
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Same processor and same RAM, why would a myTouch be any faster? I'll put my overclocked G1 up against a MT3G any day of the week.
That leads me to my next point about making a Hero ROM faster. I would definitely install SetCPU, overclock it, and decrease the CPU usage at which it will upscale it's speed. That dramatically increases performance.

TeeJay3800 said:
Same processor and same RAM, why would a myTouch be any faster? I'll put my overclocked G1 up against a MT3G any day of the week.
That leads me to my next point about making a Hero ROM faster. I would definitely install SetCPU, overclock it, and decrease the CPU usage at which it will upscale it's speed. That dramatically increases performance.
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But if you have thres hold too low it will scale when not needed.If battery life is a concern you want it to 50-65. If you have a 2600mah bat then go ahead and try 20-50.Dont make it 528 all the time either, use 128 while sleep and 128-528 while on charger or batt.

Ace42 said:
But if you have thres hold too low it will scale when not needed.If battery life is a concern you want it to 50-65. If you have a 2600mah bat then go ahead and try 20-50.Dont make it 528 all the time either, use 128 while sleep and 128-528 while on charger or batt.
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Yeah, absolutely. I have mine set to scale at 50%, and that seems to produce good results.

acc697 said:
hi guys i just flashed my G1 wit the hero rom but it lags a lot and the applications don't load fast so how would i speed it up i have 2.1 firmware.
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it seems some people just don't learn
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629907
Honestly, why did you start this thread,too lazy or too stupid?
please go back to your WinMo

I'm using mlign hero rom. Best one so far. With 10 mb ram hack it's pretty smooth. BenchmarkPi's results of about 11 000.

roccodaone said:
BenchmarkPi's results of about 11 000.
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must be all the hard ass work/time he puts in
I mean, read one of the changelogs, its pretty insane development!!!

kingklick said:
must be all the hard ass work/time he puts in
I mean, read one of the changelogs, its pretty insane development!!!
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What is yours then ?, its pretty insane its too !! Thanks man!

kingklick said:
must be all the hard ass work/time he puts in
I mean, read one of the changelogs, its pretty insane development!!!
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Oooh, the irony

class 6 sd card, 96mb swap and MLIGN's.
Kingklicks is quite fast, but I dont think it is as fast as MLIGN's. Definitly not trying to say who is better or does more work. Hell, MLIGN only does the hero ROM and older firmware at that.

Undervolt?

THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR DEVS ON THE MATTER OF UNDERVOLT
According to the guy who made setcpu.
pershoot just changed the voltage used by adjusting the voltages (in mV) in the acpu_freq_tbl table in acpuclock-scorpion.c
So if we just edit the table in our own acpuclock-arm11.c(or acpuclock-arm11.c-OCing), that should give us undervolt?
It can't be that simple?
Code:
/* MSM7201A Levels 3-6 all correspond to 1.2V, level 7 corresponds to 1.325V. */
enum {
VDD_0 = 0,
VDD_1 = 1,
VDD_2 = 2,
VDD_3 = 3,
VDD_4 = 4,
VDD_5 = 5,
VDD_6 = 6,
VDD_7 = 7,
VDD_END
};
Thanks to kleranc for idea.
I should probably update this since it has been reincarnated for some reason. lol.
Regardless, this image will explain everything(thanks jus10o for the nice drawing):
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I have to be clear about a few things though:
Under my own testing, and from my own experiences; our processor isn't capable of exerting itself that much. So if you are using an undervolted kernel, it really only undervolts the higher frequencies as you can see in the table above. This is good and bad.
Good: Because you're not using that much juice from the battery and you keep a lower core temp
Bad: Because you may notice performance loss
It also has to be noted that not all processors will behave equally: you may experience no performance loss, or you may experience complete loss. It's a roll of the dice.
About lower frequencies and undervolting(from GSM Hero forum):
dipje said:
To all
Now, about the 'undervolting': A lot of talk and discussion has been going on in the kernel thread(s), and I think every kernel 'hacker' in the end ended up with pretty much the same frequency table and settings. Going lower than VDD_3 ended up in waking-issues or not-responding heroes. Some worked, most didn't. You see the ROMs here and there that used 19mhz and / or VDD_2 or lower now releasing updated versions with just a bit more juice and mhz during sleep, because some heroes really aren't waking up properly.
Or aging 7200 just needs a bit of juice apparently
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Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?

Mr. Biggz said:
Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
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Well at higher-frequencies we'd benefit a lot on battery life. With just about everyone using Overclock kernels, this could really help out.
For some of us, battery life means a lot.

So phusson has a simple fix for dropping VDD levels.
Here
Name sounds familiar? Yeah he's the same guy who helped us get overlocking on our msm7k phones
So credit to him. Should have somthing ready by tomorrow.

if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.

Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Yes it would increase the heat, but no substantially. Besides, we wouldn't decrease the voltage too much. Finding just a "safe" undervolt to conserve battery(if it exists).

figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041

Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Huh? Excuse me, but I have an engineering background too (materials science) and must have missed that lecture. What is the principle behind this? I'm really skeptical because I'm 99% sure from my years of PC modding experience that a lower voltage is synonymous with better battery life, longer life-time (opposite effect of over-volting), and lower temperatures.
There are no disadvantages other than instability, which only happens if your voltage is TOO low.
Edit: here's a source that backs my claim
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...es/235824-undervolting-guide.html#post3183068

Sparticuz said:
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
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But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.

RE: c00ller
I have to agree with c00ller on this. As an engineer with a physics background, and more importantly, an avid PC overclocker, it is considered common knowledge that lower voltages produce less heat, decrease power consumption, and sacrifice stability at higher clock speeds.
Considering that some of our hero's can be clocked up to 768 mHz stable, undervolting should be doable to a reasonable extent. In fact, if somebody wanted to keep stock frequencies, ie up to only 528, a significant amount of undervolting could probably be accomplished.

foolforfood said:
But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
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Check out my blue echo rom later tonight. Decadence just built me a boot.img for my rom with oc/UV at 710 oc and free autokiller built in. Ill upload tonight and its a sense based rom

Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.

Bradart said:
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
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Read my post above urs. That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted. I'm running it now and it work just great

That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?

foolforfood said:
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
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Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight

Papa Smurf151 said:
Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
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Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!

foolforfood said:
Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
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Don't thank me...thank decadence

Papa Smurf151 said:
That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted.
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Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?

fwhite42 said:
Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
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That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight

Papa Smurf151 said:
That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
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Just to clarify kernel != ramdisk .
The kernel is #15 from darchdroid 2.7 from the uv.zip just thrown together with the ramdisk from 2.3.3. That equals the new boot.img.

Rom or Rom+Kernel with best battery duration known?

So ye, maybe tonight or tomorrow a storm will come and probably will have no electric power, I have 3 batteries but just in case it takes long to get electricity back I wanna know what rom or rom/kernel combination has been proved to be one of the bests battery saver.
I know I might get shot by the search police but I made this new topic cuz roms get updated everytime and old searches can point me out outdated answers, plus I need a quick response since the storm might start tonight, thanks.

There's no definitive BEST. It's all about what you do and how well you manage it. I get pretty great battery life with CM7 and LordMod's kernel. But some people have battery drain issues with cm7 nightlies. It's more about you and your phone. Experiment, try stuff out, see what works best for you.

Jake33108 said:
There's no definitive BEST. It's all about what you do and how well you manage it. I get pretty great battery life with CM7 and LordMod's kernel. But some people have battery drain issues with cm7 nightlies. It's more about you and your phone. Experiment, try stuff out, see what works best for you.
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Thanks I will download CM7 now

I recommend using the Nightly builds, it intimidates some people who are new to CM7 but they are really good and for the most part very stable.

djzikario said:
So ye, maybe tonight or tomorrow a storm will come and probably will have no electric power, I have 3 batteries but just in case it takes long to get electricity back I wanna know what rom or rom/kernel combination has been proved to be one of the bests battery saver.
I know I might get shot by the search police but I made this new topic cuz roms get updated everytime and old searches can point me out outdated answers, plus I need a quick response since the storm might start tonight, thanks.
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I recommend any aosp build. I'm on miui with the lordmod kernel and you can go days if you turn off data, which isn't necessary in an emergency situation like you are describing .
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk

Jake33108 said:
There's no definitive BEST. It's all about what you do and how well you manage it. I get pretty great battery life with CM7 and LordMod's kernel. But some people have battery drain issues with cm7 nightlies. It's more about you and your phone. Experiment, try stuff out, see what works best for you.
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YO Thanks again, CM7+BFSLordmod with the stable puv gave me 10 hours (data/sync off and screen most of the time off) and it was still at 91%!!! thanks a lot.
Im surprised how leedroid and other sense based roms now drain a lot of batteries! maybe cuz of the new sense, I remember leedroid gave me better battery results in the past similar to cm7.

I'd go with ninja its got better battery life and is even smoother
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Try the Virtuous Beta:
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Today I went to NYC and did some pretty heavy usage: Spotify in the subway, Google Maps, Facebook, FourSquare (picture uploading), Texting, Calls.
I'm running the Virtuous Unity Beta w/ Juice Defender on Balanced.
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Im using skype now with video call which is killing my battery

3D Mark

http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark#android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.futuremark.dmandroid.application
I thought it would be handy to have one here for just us One S owners results:
Viper 2.1 with stock kernel:
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Normal:
Extreme:

Viper 2.2|ElementalX 4.2 @ 1.7 GHz|3D GPU max 480MHz|2D GPU max 266 MHz
Normal:
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About time they put this out but you get a silly score on the pc lol http://www.3dmark.com/is/22245.

Shure - but my PC won't run on my mobiles battery. lol
They claim results should be comparable across different platforms.

Here is my PC result from back then, incase someone is interested
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6767
Only CPU abit OC'ed, time that i get a GPU upgrade, but not worth untill the new series come next year (not paying ~€500,- for only 10-15% performance increase )

rootrider said:
Shure - but my PC won't run on my mobiles battery. lol
They claim results should be comparable across different platforms.
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Ya that would be sweet if we could. So here what I got on HBB.

sausje85 said:
Here is my PC result from back then, incase someone is interested
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6767
Only CPU abit OC'ed, time that i get a GPU upgrade, but not worth untill the new series come next year (not paying ~€500,- for only 10-15% performance increase )
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Em ok I beat you in the first 2 test yet lose in the 3rd.

on cm10.1 unofficial nightly (02 april).
Still FC sometimes.
Normal.
Extreme.

Darknites said:
Em ok I beat you in the first 2 test yet lose in the 3rd.
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Yeah this new one is really strange and only for the 3rd one proper reliable

sausje85 said:
Yeah this new one is really strange and only for the 3rd one proper reliable
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Lol ya think I switch back ati next time round.

Darknites said:
Lol ya think I switch back ati next time round.
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lol why?
Your card ain't that bad for the price you (prolly) payed
For the top end cards it's a whole different thing, all sorts of things you need to keep in consideration, but the 660 is by no means a bad card for that price

sausje85 said:
lol why?
Your card ain't that bad for the price you (prolly) payed
For the top end cards it's a whole different thing, all sorts of things you need to keep in consideration, but the 660 is by no means a bad card for that price
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Oh no I don't mean now. I only got this in November so I'm good for now and plus use my tv for most games which is old and only has a rez of 1360x768 which helps alot for maxing out settings but it does play BF3 on at max on a 1680x1050 monitor. I paid £160 for it and it come with AC3 which at the time gave me AC2 lol and at the time the ti was about £220 so think I did god with this one.

Let me test
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