I opened this thread to help shed some light on the battery issues that keep occurring (and many ppl trying to downgrade end up bricking because of that).
I'm not sure the leak was meant for all revisions, because some have problems running it properly.
This guy made the connection, and i think he might be on to something:
moofree said:
I think there may be two different AT&T MB865's in the wild- the originally release fcc id IHDT56MV1 approved in September 2011 and the IHDT56MV2 that passed through the FCC in January 2012.
This may explain the 1.2ghz clock on your phones, cause mine is definitely still 1.0ghz.
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You can check it if you remove battery, its on a sticker on the back.
You can check your default clock with setcpu(2.23 avaliable for free on xda), OR search for "cpu" in play store, "antutu cpu master" will show up, its free and reports same values as setcpu.
I'll start: im running V1 /default 1.2clock /no batter issues (I was bootlooping at 1.2 on GB, so i used 1125).
Please vote so we can get an idea whats happening with the clocks and why do people have battery problems !!
Well I am a V1 and 1GZ clock, NEVER over or under clocked the phone before with any of the ROMs... so, I am thinking might have something to do with it... Also no battery issues.
V1 1ghz. And I was overclocked on 2.3.6 to 1.2 battery on ics is great for me
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
V1, 1.2. I was overclocked through Romulus 2.0 which was at 1130 if i'm not mistaken.
And I have AMAZING battery life with ICS. Much better than GB.
I've found something interesting, not sure if the guy is talking hot air though, source:
Actually the 4430 isn't overclocked in the RAZRs, it's running at 1.2GHz "Turbo" mode, an undocumented clock speed for 4430 chips tested at the factory to be stable at 1.2 GHz and run at normal temperatures. These chips are separated from the rest of the production run and sold at a premium with the 1.2 GHz "Turbo" identification.
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It really isnt documented, this is from ti.com
OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
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And the RAZR was 1.2 from day one. Considering its realease date, and the start of sampling of 4430 (ti.com says "currently sampling" as of 28 March 2011) they well had enough "Turbo certified" samples to make a phone using only those.
In short, hes story seems legit.
But why do we have two different clocks and how does the rom determine which setting its going to run on.
I dont think CPUs themselves "know" if they are certified, they are just placed in another box after the tests(being a bit vague here).
Just like some OC edition video cards; fitted with a better cooler, placed in a different retail package(with higher price).
Then again some OC video cards do get a modded bios (but not at the OEM level).
If they had a different firmware/serial numbering like desktop cpus then it would be documented and listed on the ti.com site.
But could it be that they "know" it after all? I'm not even sure these ARM SoC-s have something like a GPU bios register that tells them the voltages per states and clock rates(that they could flash while still on the test line) at all.
The reason this is interesting is that if its burned in on an individual chip level, the hw revision holds no relevance at all.
OR There could be some test after first install and it falls back to 1.0 if you get a reboot... obviously I didnt stumble into this and it wouldn't seem like a professional method from motorola at all.
Anyone running 1.0 carefully watching(and remembering, lol) the process could clear this one up though.
I'm on V1, setcpu is reading 1 ghz, I think my battery on ics seems OK, maybe drains a slight slight bit faster than before, but maybe that's my imagination!
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V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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dicksteele said:
V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.
I had a v1 and ICS was clocked @1200 for me. I have never been that high - always got unstable around 1175 on gb - but it was smooth as butter on ics.. recovery operations were so damn quick.
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My phone is V1 and I used to run at 1.335 on GB. I am now clocked at 1.0 ghz by default on ICS.
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Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.
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No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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So far, I haven't gotten a single app to show me the disable button, just force stop and uninstall.
My battery life is GARBAGE. I used to get 18 hours + on a single charge, but now I barely make it 12 hours.
V1 - 1000 Ghz - Battery Problems
Even though I didn't install the ICS leak, I wanted to chime in because I've been having battery issues for some weeks/months.
When I bought the phone the battery worked well. After the 2.3.6 update the battery lasted even longer than before. So I was happy and everything. Now a few weeks/months ago I get to the end of the night with only 20% or 10%. Sometimes it even dies! I tried everything, even replacing the battery, and nothing, still poor battery.
I think battery life is also subjective. There should be a standard as to what is good or bad. I have used my phone pretty heavily today with wifi on and im at 9 hrs and 30% remaining. This seems okay to me, but I noticed some people getting over 24 hrs on a charge so maybe half a day isn't that great.
My battery life is definitely better on ICS though. And it's also possible some of you are playing with all the fun stuff involving ICS for long periods of time which is making the battery die faster then boring GB where it stays in your pocket the whole day.
Anyway, I have a V1 and i'm at 1 ghz, ICS is noticeably faster. In GB I could run as high as 1.25ghz, and I would overclock using a script, not an overclocked ROM
I'm v1 clocked at 1.2 ics leak. I bootlooped at 1.2 on gb. At first I thought my battery wasn't right. Seemed to charge really slowly. After a couple cycles though I'm pretty happy with it. I have basically the same battery life as before.
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I was using Remus on gd.
I uninstalled all the at&t bloat with no problem.
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[email protected], no battery issues.
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has anyone else noticed that no one with a v2 has even voted? are we sure there is a v2? lol
where do i check my a2 versioN?
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where do i check my a2 versioN?
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under the battery look at the fcc number and compare to first post.
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I know there are countless threads related to G2x Problems but none of the threads are focusing on isolating the reasons of Freezing Issue. I have recently upgraded my phone from Galaxy S Vibrant to G2x and i have to say i love the hardware and performance. Only Issue for me is random freezing.
After using the phone for 2 weeks and trying 3 roms
1. Stock
2. EB 1.04
3. Dark Sinister 1.1
I have come to a conclusion that kernel and rom is not the solution. At least not for me.
So i will try to solve the problem using hardware testing.
From my past 2 weeks experience.
1. Phone Freezes at night during charging
2. Phone Freezes when ever i turn off/on wifi and bluetooth and gps and Data (4g/3g) (Still have to figure out which of them is the cause. Cause i usually turn all off when i need to save battery).
Test Day 1
For Reason 1
I am using SetCpu and have changed Min from 216 to 312Mhz. I am trying this because i think very low cpu usage in standby for a very long period causes the phone to freeze. Its a Hunch i am not sure.
For Reason 2
I will keep wifi, Bluetooth and GPS off.
I will keep 4g/3g Data On all the time.
To My Surprise its been 16 hours no freeze. It includes charging at night. Lets see how long i can go without a freeze. Upon freezing i will make some changes.
Update 31/5/2011 (Test Day 2)
Ok its been more than 40 hours and not a single crash...
I removed the following possibilities as well....
It wont crash upon excessive usage.
Also Normal Heat up does not cause the crash.
As i have been playing Samurai II Vengeance all day long... Until I ended it. Several times charging along playing. I even played it on TV using HDMI. Not a single crash. I used to have around 3 crashes a day on stock rom when i unboxed my new G2x.
I also started using GPS from today. So lets see how it goes. I will update it every 24 hour.
Update 3/6/2011 (Test Day 5)
Ok i am considering Random Freezing On standby as solved because i havent had a single freeze at night after setting CPU Clock at 312 MHz using SetCPU. There are also other comments that back up my solution. I am considering this the solution of one problem.
2nd Issue of freezing while using cell phone apps is because of certain applications that are either buggy or not compatible with tegra Platform. For that i will start another thread with individual application testing for all apps that can cause the system to freeze or crash.
Please Discuss apps System Bloat-ware/User Apps that cause your G2x to Crash or Freeze in the following thread i created:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14399089
Thanks for all the feedback.
Luckily I dont get that issue, buy I think this is a good test :u
Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
G2x with CM7 and trinity kernel
All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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Do you or @kangxi remember what Apps gave you issues?
it has to be a driver issue, its virtually the only explanation for why devs have not hammered it out yet or even CM7 team for that matter... it has problems on pure AOSP which leaves drivers or overheating (unlikely)... LG has to come up with the fix because they know their drivers and hardware better than everyone else...
Well the obvious problem I see is that they are all based on the stock rom. Try using one build from AOSP or a CM variety.
I didn't stay stock long but I did have reboot using the leaked Gingerbread (which is what EB is built from). I don't follow it but one is based off the stock 2.2.2 rom and the other is based off the leaked 2.3.3 rom.
I had nothing but problems with the stock roms. Thus your problem I think. Move over to Bionic, CM7, Gigglebread, or something.
I tested my phone and I didn't have a reset in like 5 days (which then my battery died overnight because I forgot to plug it in). I usually crackflash the CM nightlies and haven't had any problems with reboots or any issues requiring a reboot (aside from the flashlight killing audio, but just don't use it).
There are definitely two problems - software and the battery. I used to way more problems until I exchanged the battery for a new one and that solved most of my issues. The issues that remain are definitely software based.
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Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
G2x with CM7 and trinity kernel
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Thanks for this information/ Changing the minimum speed didnt affect the battery life but it has survived two nights without crashing. So i am planning to keep it at 312Mhz min.
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All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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I Completely Agree with you. Some Applications do cause system crashes. But I have removed all the t-mobile bloatware and i only have few games and GPS apps. All games are from tegra zone. So I am sure they are supported.
For GPS App i am using Copilot and it didnt crash on me once.
I just installed setcpu and set minimum to 312. I'm keeping everything else the same to see if this change has any difference. Will report back.
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Looks like you are gaining progress. Sounds like keeping the processor revved up a little more does the trick.
It would be a simple fix for people to try that have reboot issues. I can't get mine to reboot, so unfortunately I cannot help you. My contribution was to resist from flashing for as long as possible to test how long I could get my "uptime" to. I got up to 127 hours when I passed out without charging it.
I'm running 20 hours now because I forgot to charge it again (seems to be my only problem, lol).
Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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Have you noticed any changes in battery usage? I haven't really played around with SETCPU much but can the clock speed be set lower and if it can, have you tried slightly lower settings than 312mhz?
y are u guys using setcpu? and its def cuz the min is too low faux has his at 400 and no problems morfic also has his a little higher then what is it i think 216?? thats too low thats y setcpu isnt supported yet.....pimp my cpu
Someone asked me a question earlier. Only app I had issues with was fring. Soon as I opened it and started playing around with it, phone rebooted.
I uninstalled and it never happened again.
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No clue what you're trying to say but setCPU works fine. At startup for first time I selected Tegra2 and it works great. I have max set to 1000 and min to 312mhz (default was min to 216mhz). I'm running stock ROM but with root. that's all.
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well thats y it works for u, u cant overclock over a thousand mhz so in ur situation ur ok i guess it only applies for people running a custom kernel then setcpu doesnt work, then u would need pimp my cpu
Just a quick question for you guys: I recently purchased an Infuse from the marketplace here, and so far I've gotten an absolute TON of lag using the device. I've flashed Infused 1.5 and Bionix with the Infusion kernel, and so far the lag has gotten better, but it's not totally cleared up. I'm definitely not new to Android, but I haven't seen anything like this before. I know that Quadrant isn't a reliable benchmark, but I'm scoring about 1900, OCed to 1.5Ghz.
Just to give an example: I'm using desktop visualizer to add some custom icons to my screen. When I go to select an icon image, it's fine, but it freezes for about 90 seconds when a list of my apps comes up.
Anyone experience this before? And if so, how did you solve it? If this was widespread, I'd imagine there would be complaints all over here.
Which app are you using to set your overclock settings, how many clock speeds do you have enabled, are you under or over volting, and *which governor* are you running?
I have seen some similar problems here when I was using conservative governor with poor choices of clock speed. Right now Infusion 1.5.2 kernel has some issues with not liking the ondemand governor, so I reduced my number of available clock speeds so it would jump to the top more quickly while using the conservative governor.
Also, did you use either the return to stock, or the ultimate unbrick flash before you flashed your ROM? If it was a used Infuse, I would do one of the above before I start looking anywhere else, then reflash your rom/kernel of choice.
I'm using SetCPU with the OnDemand gov (400/1500), no undervolting. I have a profile set to underclock it to 300/700 on conservative when I'm charging, but that's about it.
I think I'm going to use GTG's unbrick/return to stock and root the thing myself, I figured I'd ask before I did anything drastic. My UI is a ***** to set up every time, and I hate wiping because of it.
Just a quick note, I've had some serious lag using the oc kernel... Like real world usage got worse after oc'ing
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Although it is counter intuitive to the way governors should work I have seen less lag on Infusion 1.5.2 when I use conservative. The ondemand governor seems to be having some issues with the most recent update. If you flash back to 1.0 Infusion you get a max overclock of 1.4, but it is much more stable IMHO. Also FFC is presently broken in 1.5.2 and will hard freeze the phone (battery pull).
I'm debating flashing back to community kernel, but I am going to wait and see how long it takes my battery to drain because I am using some undervolting. You might try using conservative governor and only enable 100, 400, (800 or 1000), (1200 or 1300) and 1500. Honestly the infuse is my first smartphone, but I've tinkered with desktop hardware the last 15 years. It literally amazes me everytime I pull the battery out of this phone and feel how light it is.
I also used the desktop vis app and yes it lagged when chosing apps however it seemed to get better after three or four times but that seems to be the only place it lags for me im using the oc-uv kernal 1.0 clocked to 1.4 seems bulletproof compared to later versions im getting great speed and batt life with this kernal but i had the same lag in the same event as you
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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Do you use spareparts?
usually yes, but I dont believe I installed it yet on the infuse. Why?
lag on stock also
I'm 100% stock & get lag also. Definitely in the situation you describe, when the app list comes up for adding shortcuts to any homescreen. Takes forever for that list to come up. Secondly, simply from running for a while, i have to kill all the apps using the built in task manager in order to get it to run smoothly again. It's like it never closes an app. I'm new to android, but guessing this is a problem inherit to android. Can't see how samsung or at&t could have screwed this soo badly to cause it to never close an app. Hoping memory management is better in Gingerbread.
Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
yeah, the longer I have the phone the more it lags it seems
probably going to push me towards the Evo3D
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
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I don't do much. Twitter, "Web" (some mozilla stock ish), SMS, phone, Android Market app (browsing), and Maps. I've had it lag up using only those. Far less often, I use Yelp... that's about it.
Not supposed to kill apps? When I kill them it fixes the problem. Maybe it *should* be killing apps?? If its supposed to flush their state to disk... it seems to be doing a poor job at it.
I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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I'd more readily assume the 512MB RAM is the issue. Looking forward to SGSII
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I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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It's the stock card that came with the phone. Any way to check? The apps are installed to it... so removing it I wouldn't have the apps available anymore.
A little update: I returned back to stock and re-rooted. I installed 3E, then CWM, then threw on Infused 1.5 and Infusion, OCed to 1.6Ghz and slightly undervolted (about 25-100mv along the range) using SetCPU.
As of right now, it still lags on occasion, but not as bad as it did. Quadrant is giving me a whopping 1300 average score, with a low of 800 and a high of 1600. This is just pathetic.
I order a free G2x from tmobile on the promotion which is about to end on the 21 of this month.
What is the best from this phone? Tell me your opinion about it
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I order a free G2x from tmobile on the promotion which is about to end on the 21 of this month.
What is the best from this phone? Tell me your opinion about it
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CyanogenMod... Hands down, fastest ROM out there IMO
Running Eagle Bloods rom with faux123 kernel. Overclocked my phone 1.5gHZ with it undervolted as well. Getting over 15 hours of HARD power use while listening to music for 3 hours, web 2 hours, great GPS and mass amounts of texting.
Add in the few levels of World of Goo and being able to run this bad boy on the BIG SCREEN with the hdmi useing a 30 foot cable.....
This is the phone to have. Period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20452048&postcount=2609
Zspy1985 said:
Running Eagle Bloods rom with faux123 kernel. Overclocked my phone 1.5gHZ with it undervolted as well. Getting over 15 hours of HARD power use while listening to music for 3 hours, web 2 hours, great GPS and mass amounts of texting.
Add in the few levels of World of Goo and being able to run this bad boy on the BIG SCREEN with the hdmi useing a 30 foot cable.....
This is the phone to have. Period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20452048&postcount=2609
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Noob question: so flashing the kernel gives better battery life? or the fact that it's undervolted?
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Noob question: so flashing the kernel gives better battery life? or the fact that it's undervolted?
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The fact it undervolted but not all g2x cpu are built the same, undervolting can kill your cpu if it cant handle it
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The SPEED! 'Nuff said
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Best thing about this phone is the games made for tegra. They are enhanced!
There isn't really a need to change kernal because this phone is fast as is. I tried it, oc'd it and never saw real time improvements. I actually underclock mine to 816mhz and it still plays all games the same.
This phone operates the best for me on Baldwin's kang cm7. Its fast and reliable. Either way you will want to use anything that uses the external sd card for app storage.
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jetbruceli said:
Best thing about this phone is the games made for tegra. They are enhanced!
There isn't really a need to change kernal because this phone is fast as is. I tried it, oc'd it and never saw real time improvements. I actually underclock mine to 816mhz and it still plays all games the same.
This phone operates the best for me on Baldwin's kang cm7. Its fast and reliable. Either way you will want to use anything that uses the external sd card for app storage.
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Lol its actually for my grandma, I ordered the phone for her but I will be playing with the phone for sure lol. I'm keeping the slide untill a quad core htc devices comes out with a good gpu
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I know this is an old thread but just wanted to say this phone is pretty awesome, my grandmother loves it and so do I. What I love the most about it is the stock build of the phone, the phone seems to respond faster when tapping on capacitive buttons then when I click them on my mytouch 4g slide which isnt stock like the g2x. I notice stock will always be faster then phones which have sense, touchwiz, and other crap of layer on top of android
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G-ma's stock G2x. Updated software?
You mentioned the speed of the stock build. I am curious if GRANDMA has the recent software update. It's V21Y and brings the phone up to Gingerbread 2.3.4 (as opposed to 2.3.3 previously. My wife has been on it over a month now w/o rebooting. It's an awesome stock build! My G2x is rooted and running recent Cyanogenmod real well too. The stock is so good now that even I sometimes restore a rooted stock nandroid for ZERO bugginess!
Joining in the dredging of an old thread - I loaded V21y on both my and my wife's phone - both run slower with noticeably more lag than stock Froyo. But no dreaded Black Screen Of Death, which is what my wife hated (she is on call sometimes). So I guess I'm happy. Someday I should try a dev rom I guess... But I NEED WiFi calling and a2dp - not sure if I can get that in a dev rom...
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Joining in the dredging of an old thread - I loaded V21y on both my and my wife's phone - both run slower with noticeably more lag than stock Froyo. But no dreaded Black Screen Of Death, which is what my wife hated (she is on call sometimes). So I guess I'm happy. Someday I should try a dev rom I guess... But I NEED WiFi calling and a2dp - not sure if I can get that in a dev rom...
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wifi calling and a2dp work in almost all of the roms, even on the new baseband (except bluetooth calling, but streaming music works), just try one and find out. CM7 is the best place to start
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You mentioned the speed of the stock build. I am curious if GRANDMA has the recent software update. It's V21Y and brings the phone up to Gingerbread 2.3.4 (as opposed to 2.3.3 previously. My wife has been on it over a month now w/o rebooting. It's an awesome stock build! My G2x is rooted and running recent Cyanogenmod real well too. The stock is so good now that even I sometimes restore a rooted stock nandroid for ZERO bugginess!
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Yea she got the update 2.3.4, the stock build is awesome fast, faster than the htc sense obviously but I still love the htc sense animations are just better on sense if sense could be just as fast as stock id loved it even more lol. Stock makes a big difference even the single core G2 is fast on stock faster than the mytouch even with 2 cores. I've done the test I tap the menu at the same time on the 3 phones and the mytouch is the slowest. However you do see the difference when not on the UI, for example on apps, the browser, and loading obviously the mytouch wins on that aspect 1.2 ghz dual core
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theres still some minor issues with the 2.3.4 got one rare SOD and a few odd reboots. cm7 has none of the issues. guess thats the tradeoff for proper quality of calls and a working gps.
I downgraded my baseband back to the March 2011 firmware, loaded up Hell Fire Phoenix with Faux's stable kernel, running V6 SuperCharger, and a Team Carbon theme that I'm currently modifying to my specific likings.
This phone flies for me. Everything works and it looks great while doing it. I really don't see a need to get a new phone, unless I decide I want a larger screen.
I still hate LG, but hey...
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I downgraded my baseband back to the March 2011 firmware, loaded up Hell Fire Phoenix with Faux's stable kernel, running V6 SuperCharger, and a Team Carbon theme that I'm currently modifying to my specific likings.
This phone flies for me. Everything works and it looks great while doing it. I really don't see a need to get a new phone, unless I decide I want a larger screen.
I still hate LG, but hey...
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I'm using the mytouch and my grandma won't be changing phones in a long while maybe untill her upgrade is due. And for me would be the same, I'm waiting for the quad core htc mytouch to come out.
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Sorry being a new member I could not reply directly to this thread under developers but I wanted to let people know that this rom should be avoided. The default clockspeed is downgraded from 1.5ghz to 1.2ghz with this and even when overlocked back to 1.5ghz it's still not as fast as before. Linpack hardly even hits 150 now when before was around 200. Quardrant scores is also very low now, the memory and IO scores were significantly lower than before.
As for those who are having the wifi issue, i discovered that the problems started happening after the one click root. Right before I rooted this new rom i was able to connect to my wifi just fine, after the root it started having problems connecting.
gtung99 said:
Sorry being a new member I could not reply directly to this thread under developers but I wanted to let people know that this rom should be avoided. The default clockspeed is downgraded from 1.5ghz to 1.2ghz with this and even when overlocked back to 1.5ghz it's still not as fast as before. Linpack hardly even hits 150 now when before was around 200. Quardrant scores is also very low now, the memory and IO scores were significantly lower than before.
As for those who are having the wifi issue, i discovered that the problems started happening after the one click root. Right before I rooted this new rom i was able to connect to my wifi just fine, after the root it started having problems connecting.
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What proof do you have of this? I don't see any difference in performance. I guess I'll just wait for the next update.
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gtung99 said:
Sorry being a new member I could not reply directly to this thread under developers but I wanted to let people know that this rom should be avoided. The default clockspeed is downgraded from 1.5ghz to 1.2ghz with this and even when overlocked back to 1.5ghz it's still not as fast as before. Linpack hardly even hits 150 now when before was around 200. Quardrant scores is also very low now, the memory and IO scores were significantly lower than before.
As for those who are having the wifi issue, i discovered that the problems started happening after the one click root. Right before I rooted this new rom i was able to connect to my wifi just fine, after the root it started having problems connecting.
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Wowsers! That's good to know. I haven't updated yet as I'm on Rogers, but I'll keep that in mind when a Rogers version comes around.
As for the WiFi issue, I've had it the whole time. I went 9 days before rooting, and it's been maybe 15 days since I rooted. It existed pre- and post-root for me.
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What proof do you have of this? I don't see any difference in performance. I guess I'll just wait for the next update.
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Mine seems to be running at 1.5ghz fine. I'm on the new version. I smell FUD.
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same as above, no issues here.
Also have the update no issues
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I went from the full detox to 1.82 and after start up i ran both quadrant and antutu benchmarks. I noticed that quadrant score was only 4k when it used to be 4.5k. antutu was also lower and thats when I noticed the clock speed being listed at 1243 mhz (something around there). I downloaded the antutu cpu master free and it allowed me to move the slider back up to 1512 mhz.
Only sharing what I expierenced, now i'm trying to go back to 1.73 and having trouble...seems like it doesn't want me to move back down.
gtung99 said:
Sorry being a new member I could not reply directly to this thread under developers but I wanted to let people know that this rom should be avoided. The default clockspeed is downgraded from 1.5ghz to 1.2ghz with this and even when overlocked back to 1.5ghz it's still not as fast as before. Linpack hardly even hits 150 now when before was around 200. Quardrant scores is also very low now, the memory and IO scores were significantly lower than before.
As for those who are having the wifi issue, i discovered that the problems started happening after the one click root. Right before I rooted this new rom i was able to connect to my wifi just fine, after the root it started having problems connecting.
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Ok, im curious, what program is reporting to you that your clockspeed is 1.2? Im not doubting what you are saying....at least not completely. I ask because when i was researching the phone before it was released on ATT, i was reading reviews and reports of people benchmarking the ATT demo phones and how the clock speed was 1.2 compared to the 1.5 of the tegra 3. So, im curious if its maybe just that the actual app you are using is reporting it wrong OR, if this is even possible, that maybe there is a different kernel with the clock set differently that somehow slipped through the cracks.
I have done the update already, and all my benchmarks are almost identical to what they were before and my clock speed is still 1512 as it was before.
As far as the wifi issue, most people were reporting that issue before root was even possible on this phone so to point there as being the culprit cant be right.
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Ok, im curious, what program is reporting to you that your clockspeed is 1.2? Im not doubting what you are saying....at least not completely. I ask because when i was researching the phone before it was released on ATT, i was reading reviews and reports of people benchmarking the ATT demo phones and how the clock speed was 1.2 compared to the 1.5 of the tegra 3. So, im curious if its maybe just that the actual app you are using is reporting it wrong OR, if this is even possible, that maybe there is a different kernel with the clock set differently that somehow slipped through the cracks.
I have done the update already, and all my benchmarks are almost identical to what they were before and my clock speed is still 1512 as it was before.
As far as the wifi issue, most people were reporting that issue before root was even possible on this phone so to point there as being the culprit cant be right.
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Antutu benchmark listed it at 1.2ghz. Previously it was at 1.5ghz on 1.73. I was stupid and tried to run full detox after the upgrade and root and got some kind of error saying memory full. Now the phone is soft bricked. I just tried the stock 1.73 RUU and its giving me a boot 140 error saying bootloader mismatch.
Any ideas?
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Antutu benchmark listed it at 1.2ghz. Previously it was at 1.5ghz on 1.73. I was stupid and tried to run full detox after the upgrade and root and got some kind of error saying memory full. Now the phone is soft bricked. I just tried the stock 1.73 RUU and its giving me a boot 140 error saying bootloader mismatch.
Any ideas?
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Im guessing that like the only other HTC phone ive owned, downgrading wont happen without s-off. So the only thing i can suggest is to instead try going back to 1.82 and get the phone functional so at least its not a brick and if its still showing an incorrect clock speed maybe you can get an exchange.
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Antutu benchmark listed it at 1.2ghz. Previously it was at 1.5ghz on 1.73. I was stupid and tried to run full detox after the upgrade and root and got some kind of error saying memory full. Now the phone is soft bricked. I just tried the stock 1.73 RUU and its giving me a boot 140 error saying bootloader mismatch.
Any ideas?
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Yea you can't go back down.Have to wait for the official ota and see if its any different.
My phone runs much smoother with the new update...almost like a different phone. I could care less what the benchmarks say...I'm a real world guy.
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I was lucking, using the 1.82 RUU again I reflashed it and now the phone is back up and running. Running antutu I see the clock speed is now defaulted to 1.5ghz again.
I really don't know what screwed up with my clockspeed before, but hopefully this will work nicely now.
1.73 here...
5,013 -- Quadrant Standard
So perhaps something is just wrong with you're phone. Also, I thought you couldn't modify your clock speed without unlocked bootloader + root/s-off or whatever. I know the basics, Just not the full technical explanation of it all. Sounds to me like you have a problem though from the beginning to have <5K of a quadrant score.
Just removed everything I dont need. De-oxed and removed bloatware + added a couple games. Cleared "multi-tasker" and used task manager [not the stock] widget to free up memory... Which made it go to 4,760. So doing all this stuff to "help" somewhat backfired. Im wondering if its the task manager widget/app always running :b Idk. Point is, I think its your phone. Even if i'm not at 1.8~.
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I was lucking, using the 1.82 RUU again I reflashed it and now the phone is back up and running. Running antutu I see the clock speed is now defaulted to 1.5ghz again.
I really don't know what screwed up with my clockspeed before, but hopefully this will work nicely now.
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good to know. and FYI, though it's not my forte, i was reading either the "Update 1.82" thread or the thread with the title named the same as the 1.82 patch (can't recall which one) and I remember someone mentioning that to roll back to 1.72 after upgrading, you need to edit a certain .apk file, which, if done improperly, will totally brick the device. glad you were able to get 1.82 to run properly. I've decided to wait for the full OTA from ATT since my wi-fi issues are generally minimal.
Scores are lower on the 1.82 but same clockspeed I'm fairly certain. Dont know why. Quadrant drops about 500 points. Still seems faster.
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Scores are lower on the 1.82 but same clockspeed I'm fairly certain. Dont know why. Quadrant drops about 500 points. Still seems faster.
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The IO score is lower now. Can't wait until Franco or someone else releases some kernels that will really make this phone rock. I had a galaxy nexus before with the stock rom but running Franco latest kernel that boosted the Quadrant score from 2200 to 3600. Mostly it was due to enhancements that dramaticlly increased memory and IO performance.
I installed the leaked update and my wifi still doesn't work right. It is extremely slow and crashes my entire network and brings it to its knees. Wifi will not work on a single device when my one x is connected to my wifi network. Ideas? Has anyone else experience this?
I hadn't thought of this being the cause but I have noticed that my wifi at home, specially when watching netflix is way slow. I always have my wifi on my HOX turned on when at home. I'm on 1.82 and running Clean ROM 2.3. Are you saying that this could be causing my slowness on all my devices that are also hooked into my wifi at home?
For those of us that have dealt with lag on JB 4.1.2 and are using Touchwiz I've created this thread to spitball, trouble shoot or even complain about it.
From what I understand it's Android 4.1.2 related. I've been reading that it's an issue with TW and 4.1.2 itself. Some have suggested that using a custom launcher will help get rid of the lag. I've seen this be true on Nova. I have been able to get no lag on TW only by not having any widgets on the home screen. This leads me to believe that part of the lag is a result of having to render the widgets and load the information there within.
Others complain of lag during gaming (Temple Run 2 is a big one). I've looked through the forums, and searched multiple threads and it appears that other S3 variants and even tablets like the Tab 2 is having issues with 4.1.2. My G Note 10.1 had it as well.
So in the hopes of figuring out what the culprit actually is or even to vent frustration at such things here we are.
If there is a thread already like this MODs please let me know and/or close it. :good:
I don't use any widgets and I get crazy lag while playing ingress. I've only ran touchwiz and its lagged on all. Sucks but not that big of a deal.
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I also get lag and/or lockups on occasions. On stock rooted 4.1.2. So is not just CleanROM. I may go back to 4.1.1. I can't seem to find enough benefit to stay on the current stuff. I've tried different kernels, etc. No dice. The only game I play is candy crush, and it's HORRIBLE. Everything moves in slow motion. LOL. It sticks how the mods handled this, I feel it is relevant. It's an issue, well known. There are MANY complaints about it.
I've had the same issues with Candy Crush. No lag on 4.1.1, and tons of lag in 4.1.2. Like you said, it almost looks like the app is in slow motion. I have yet to find a solution to this.
Man you guys are right on the money. I've reverted back to 4.1.1 because of all the lag. I'm currently on GalaxyMod Rls 13, which to me has the least amount of lag. Homescreens don't redraw, menus are smooth (for the most part anyway, you scroll back to the top of the settings menu and it tends to jump on occasions, no matter what ROM I'm using). I hope 5.0 addresses these issues. I remember how excited I was when 4.1 first dropped... Arguably the best build Android has ever made.
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Some say they don't get lag. Just a theory here, but I went the OTA route, then rooted and unlocked. Got lag, even flashing back to 4.1.1. Thing is, I still had the current OTA partitions. So, I Odined back to K3. TADA! No more lag. Makes me think that possibly those that took the OTA are getting the lag because of the partitions that are updated. Those NOT experiencing lag are ones still on K3 partitions, but have flashed up to MB1 ROMs. Maybe? Just a theory.
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Some say they don't get lag. Just a theory here, but I went the OTA route, then rooted and unlocked. Got lag, even flashing back to 4.1.1. Thing is, I still had the current OTA partitions. So, I Odined back to K3. TADA! No more lag. Makes me think that possibly those that took the OTA are getting the lag because of the partitions that are updated. Those NOT experiencing lag are ones still on K3 partitions, but have flashed up to MB1 ROMs. Maybe? Just a theory.
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Which K3 tar did you use? I'd like to try this myself on my wife's phone. Thanks.
NVM I got it.
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I have two s3 phones in the family. One of them is on cleanrom and one is on stock unrooted. Both of them suffer from lag. We do not play games on our phones. The last that we notice is when doing things like texting. The keyboard is really slow to come up. And when the auto correct list comes up, it is very slow. Scrolling also seems to bog it down. I am not sure what is going on, but it is a definite step backward from 4.1.1. I how that there is a solution that does not involve going back to 4.1.1.
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I have two s3 phones in the family. One of them is on cleanrom and one is on stock unrooted. Both of them suffer from lag. We do not play games on our phones. The last that we notice is when doing things like texting. The keyboard is really slow to come up. And when the auto correct list comes up, it is very slow. Scrolling also seems to bog it down. I am not sure what is going on, but it is a definite step backward from 4.1.1. I how that there is a solution that does not involve going back to 4.1.1.
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I wonder if the GS3 suffers from graphic redraws? Maybe it's not caching the images perpetually, only drawing them when needed. I've noticed this when it loads widgets, scrolling through menus, and when you have a lot of notifications(the drop down shade hesitates when it's opening and closing). I don't think it's hardware, as there are a few HTC phones with the same adreno GPU and they don't lag. My previous phone, the EVO 4G LTE, didn't lag at all, and they share the same adreno graphics hardware. Hero's Axis Rom addresses most of these issues, as my experience with his roms have been positive. It's not completely gone, but it's better than stock. I'd recommend using his rom if you have these issues.
fix, maybe?
Hey, all. So I had gotten the i757m, same problem as here. Got a new one from Bell, and it was slow as hell too.. Here's what I did.
I disabled everything I could, all the bloatware.
100% HD Games
Asphalt 6
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
GPS Navigator(Let's be real here, it sucks anyways.. use google maps)
Let's Golf 3
Mobile TV
Sympatico.ca
Yahoo! Finance
Yahoo! News
This helps(after a 4.1.2 upgrade via kies)
Next step: Developer options
Turned off animations(Transition Animation Scale)
under apps > Do not keep activities check box. Destroys processes after the user leaves them. Not so awesome for multitasking, but hey, whatever works, right? 262 MB used 1.7GB free . Seems like a win to me.
Do you guys overclock? This is just a theory, but overclocking or undervolting overclocking or flashing too many times seems to slow down phones. Have any of you guys tried to go back to stock and then factory reset and started over? I think that might help. Also, I do see lag, however I only see minimal lag, maybe its because I rarely have anything on my phone? I am also on stock kernel and that seems to work the best for me right now, I used to run custom kernels, but some of them keep causing issues and weren't stable enough or gave me worse battery life. I will try the new leankernel as I like leankernel from the galaxy nexus and have previously tried lean before and had a good experience. Hopefully this at least partially answers the OP's question
Well there have been 3 Touchwiz kernels that worked for me and that's leankernel, kt747 and Zeus. I only overclock to 1.8 ghz or 1.6 ghz those speeds give me the least problems.
I just ran temple run 2 just fine. Here is my setup. MOAR ver.18 latest firmware mf1, KT747 kernal.
undervolt
1175 1160 1160 1150 1150 1125 1125 1100 1100 1050 1050 1050 1025 1000 1000 950 950 925 925 900 900 900 900 880
min 189
max 1512
i/o cfq
governor
ktoonservative
screen off set too 810mhz
Thats it.
I get at least 22hrs of charge with 39% left. I can't let drain down fully because i need it to be fully charged every night before bedtime. I basically charge it fully before bed and i'm left with 39 to 20% by 9pm the next day. I'm on wifi at home and 4glte at work.
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last night i had a 3% battery drain within 5hrs. I think that's pretty awesome. While i'm asleep.
I'm with Verizon running BoneStock 3.2 and no lag at all. Fastest ROM I've used so far. With stock kernel
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