For those of us that have dealt with lag on JB 4.1.2 and are using Touchwiz I've created this thread to spitball, trouble shoot or even complain about it.
From what I understand it's Android 4.1.2 related. I've been reading that it's an issue with TW and 4.1.2 itself. Some have suggested that using a custom launcher will help get rid of the lag. I've seen this be true on Nova. I have been able to get no lag on TW only by not having any widgets on the home screen. This leads me to believe that part of the lag is a result of having to render the widgets and load the information there within.
Others complain of lag during gaming (Temple Run 2 is a big one). I've looked through the forums, and searched multiple threads and it appears that other S3 variants and even tablets like the Tab 2 is having issues with 4.1.2. My G Note 10.1 had it as well.
So in the hopes of figuring out what the culprit actually is or even to vent frustration at such things here we are.
If there is a thread already like this MODs please let me know and/or close it. :good:
I don't use any widgets and I get crazy lag while playing ingress. I've only ran touchwiz and its lagged on all. Sucks but not that big of a deal.
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I also get lag and/or lockups on occasions. On stock rooted 4.1.2. So is not just CleanROM. I may go back to 4.1.1. I can't seem to find enough benefit to stay on the current stuff. I've tried different kernels, etc. No dice. The only game I play is candy crush, and it's HORRIBLE. Everything moves in slow motion. LOL. It sticks how the mods handled this, I feel it is relevant. It's an issue, well known. There are MANY complaints about it.
I've had the same issues with Candy Crush. No lag on 4.1.1, and tons of lag in 4.1.2. Like you said, it almost looks like the app is in slow motion. I have yet to find a solution to this.
Man you guys are right on the money. I've reverted back to 4.1.1 because of all the lag. I'm currently on GalaxyMod Rls 13, which to me has the least amount of lag. Homescreens don't redraw, menus are smooth (for the most part anyway, you scroll back to the top of the settings menu and it tends to jump on occasions, no matter what ROM I'm using). I hope 5.0 addresses these issues. I remember how excited I was when 4.1 first dropped... Arguably the best build Android has ever made.
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Some say they don't get lag. Just a theory here, but I went the OTA route, then rooted and unlocked. Got lag, even flashing back to 4.1.1. Thing is, I still had the current OTA partitions. So, I Odined back to K3. TADA! No more lag. Makes me think that possibly those that took the OTA are getting the lag because of the partitions that are updated. Those NOT experiencing lag are ones still on K3 partitions, but have flashed up to MB1 ROMs. Maybe? Just a theory.
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Some say they don't get lag. Just a theory here, but I went the OTA route, then rooted and unlocked. Got lag, even flashing back to 4.1.1. Thing is, I still had the current OTA partitions. So, I Odined back to K3. TADA! No more lag. Makes me think that possibly those that took the OTA are getting the lag because of the partitions that are updated. Those NOT experiencing lag are ones still on K3 partitions, but have flashed up to MB1 ROMs. Maybe? Just a theory.
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Which K3 tar did you use? I'd like to try this myself on my wife's phone. Thanks.
NVM I got it.
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I have two s3 phones in the family. One of them is on cleanrom and one is on stock unrooted. Both of them suffer from lag. We do not play games on our phones. The last that we notice is when doing things like texting. The keyboard is really slow to come up. And when the auto correct list comes up, it is very slow. Scrolling also seems to bog it down. I am not sure what is going on, but it is a definite step backward from 4.1.1. I how that there is a solution that does not involve going back to 4.1.1.
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I have two s3 phones in the family. One of them is on cleanrom and one is on stock unrooted. Both of them suffer from lag. We do not play games on our phones. The last that we notice is when doing things like texting. The keyboard is really slow to come up. And when the auto correct list comes up, it is very slow. Scrolling also seems to bog it down. I am not sure what is going on, but it is a definite step backward from 4.1.1. I how that there is a solution that does not involve going back to 4.1.1.
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I wonder if the GS3 suffers from graphic redraws? Maybe it's not caching the images perpetually, only drawing them when needed. I've noticed this when it loads widgets, scrolling through menus, and when you have a lot of notifications(the drop down shade hesitates when it's opening and closing). I don't think it's hardware, as there are a few HTC phones with the same adreno GPU and they don't lag. My previous phone, the EVO 4G LTE, didn't lag at all, and they share the same adreno graphics hardware. Hero's Axis Rom addresses most of these issues, as my experience with his roms have been positive. It's not completely gone, but it's better than stock. I'd recommend using his rom if you have these issues.
fix, maybe?
Hey, all. So I had gotten the i757m, same problem as here. Got a new one from Bell, and it was slow as hell too.. Here's what I did.
I disabled everything I could, all the bloatware.
100% HD Games
Asphalt 6
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
GPS Navigator(Let's be real here, it sucks anyways.. use google maps)
Let's Golf 3
Mobile TV
Sympatico.ca
Yahoo! Finance
Yahoo! News
This helps(after a 4.1.2 upgrade via kies)
Next step: Developer options
Turned off animations(Transition Animation Scale)
under apps > Do not keep activities check box. Destroys processes after the user leaves them. Not so awesome for multitasking, but hey, whatever works, right? 262 MB used 1.7GB free . Seems like a win to me.
Do you guys overclock? This is just a theory, but overclocking or undervolting overclocking or flashing too many times seems to slow down phones. Have any of you guys tried to go back to stock and then factory reset and started over? I think that might help. Also, I do see lag, however I only see minimal lag, maybe its because I rarely have anything on my phone? I am also on stock kernel and that seems to work the best for me right now, I used to run custom kernels, but some of them keep causing issues and weren't stable enough or gave me worse battery life. I will try the new leankernel as I like leankernel from the galaxy nexus and have previously tried lean before and had a good experience. Hopefully this at least partially answers the OP's question
Well there have been 3 Touchwiz kernels that worked for me and that's leankernel, kt747 and Zeus. I only overclock to 1.8 ghz or 1.6 ghz those speeds give me the least problems.
I just ran temple run 2 just fine. Here is my setup. MOAR ver.18 latest firmware mf1, KT747 kernal.
undervolt
1175 1160 1160 1150 1150 1125 1125 1100 1100 1050 1050 1050 1025 1000 1000 950 950 925 925 900 900 900 900 880
min 189
max 1512
i/o cfq
governor
ktoonservative
screen off set too 810mhz
Thats it.
I get at least 22hrs of charge with 39% left. I can't let drain down fully because i need it to be fully charged every night before bedtime. I basically charge it fully before bed and i'm left with 39 to 20% by 9pm the next day. I'm on wifi at home and 4glte at work.
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last night i had a 3% battery drain within 5hrs. I think that's pretty awesome. While i'm asleep.
I'm with Verizon running BoneStock 3.2 and no lag at all. Fastest ROM I've used so far. With stock kernel
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Just a quick question for you guys: I recently purchased an Infuse from the marketplace here, and so far I've gotten an absolute TON of lag using the device. I've flashed Infused 1.5 and Bionix with the Infusion kernel, and so far the lag has gotten better, but it's not totally cleared up. I'm definitely not new to Android, but I haven't seen anything like this before. I know that Quadrant isn't a reliable benchmark, but I'm scoring about 1900, OCed to 1.5Ghz.
Just to give an example: I'm using desktop visualizer to add some custom icons to my screen. When I go to select an icon image, it's fine, but it freezes for about 90 seconds when a list of my apps comes up.
Anyone experience this before? And if so, how did you solve it? If this was widespread, I'd imagine there would be complaints all over here.
Which app are you using to set your overclock settings, how many clock speeds do you have enabled, are you under or over volting, and *which governor* are you running?
I have seen some similar problems here when I was using conservative governor with poor choices of clock speed. Right now Infusion 1.5.2 kernel has some issues with not liking the ondemand governor, so I reduced my number of available clock speeds so it would jump to the top more quickly while using the conservative governor.
Also, did you use either the return to stock, or the ultimate unbrick flash before you flashed your ROM? If it was a used Infuse, I would do one of the above before I start looking anywhere else, then reflash your rom/kernel of choice.
I'm using SetCPU with the OnDemand gov (400/1500), no undervolting. I have a profile set to underclock it to 300/700 on conservative when I'm charging, but that's about it.
I think I'm going to use GTG's unbrick/return to stock and root the thing myself, I figured I'd ask before I did anything drastic. My UI is a ***** to set up every time, and I hate wiping because of it.
Just a quick note, I've had some serious lag using the oc kernel... Like real world usage got worse after oc'ing
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Although it is counter intuitive to the way governors should work I have seen less lag on Infusion 1.5.2 when I use conservative. The ondemand governor seems to be having some issues with the most recent update. If you flash back to 1.0 Infusion you get a max overclock of 1.4, but it is much more stable IMHO. Also FFC is presently broken in 1.5.2 and will hard freeze the phone (battery pull).
I'm debating flashing back to community kernel, but I am going to wait and see how long it takes my battery to drain because I am using some undervolting. You might try using conservative governor and only enable 100, 400, (800 or 1000), (1200 or 1300) and 1500. Honestly the infuse is my first smartphone, but I've tinkered with desktop hardware the last 15 years. It literally amazes me everytime I pull the battery out of this phone and feel how light it is.
I also used the desktop vis app and yes it lagged when chosing apps however it seemed to get better after three or four times but that seems to be the only place it lags for me im using the oc-uv kernal 1.0 clocked to 1.4 seems bulletproof compared to later versions im getting great speed and batt life with this kernal but i had the same lag in the same event as you
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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Do you use spareparts?
usually yes, but I dont believe I installed it yet on the infuse. Why?
lag on stock also
I'm 100% stock & get lag also. Definitely in the situation you describe, when the app list comes up for adding shortcuts to any homescreen. Takes forever for that list to come up. Secondly, simply from running for a while, i have to kill all the apps using the built in task manager in order to get it to run smoothly again. It's like it never closes an app. I'm new to android, but guessing this is a problem inherit to android. Can't see how samsung or at&t could have screwed this soo badly to cause it to never close an app. Hoping memory management is better in Gingerbread.
Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
yeah, the longer I have the phone the more it lags it seems
probably going to push me towards the Evo3D
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
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I don't do much. Twitter, "Web" (some mozilla stock ish), SMS, phone, Android Market app (browsing), and Maps. I've had it lag up using only those. Far less often, I use Yelp... that's about it.
Not supposed to kill apps? When I kill them it fixes the problem. Maybe it *should* be killing apps?? If its supposed to flush their state to disk... it seems to be doing a poor job at it.
I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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I'd more readily assume the 512MB RAM is the issue. Looking forward to SGSII
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I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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It's the stock card that came with the phone. Any way to check? The apps are installed to it... so removing it I wouldn't have the apps available anymore.
A little update: I returned back to stock and re-rooted. I installed 3E, then CWM, then threw on Infused 1.5 and Infusion, OCed to 1.6Ghz and slightly undervolted (about 25-100mv along the range) using SetCPU.
As of right now, it still lags on occasion, but not as bad as it did. Quadrant is giving me a whopping 1300 average score, with a low of 800 and a high of 1600. This is just pathetic.
I'm just curious because I get a lot of mixed answers, some users claimed they never had a problem and their sidekick 4G runs smoothly while others say their phone freezes and reboots way too often. Some have also said installing custom rom has fixed their phone.
I have my sidekick since last may it does not freeze nor reboot constantly the most that ever really happen was that the screen got mosit so it stop working. I have had no more then 10 battery pulls were the phone froze. Generally I pull the battery when I need to turn it off quick. (Used gingerclone,lighting rev2,glorious overdose,
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this question may perhaps be a bit tricky. some users, like myself, may have installed a custom rom, but that alone may not have fixed the lag. i installed b2tb, but still had a lag, and quadnrant score was the same before and after the flash. before b2tb, i was on stock firmware, and my quadrant score was in the 9s. after flashing, still in the 9s. screen lag was the same. a combination of voodoo lagfix and v6 supercharger have improved my quadrant scores to anywhere in the 11s or 12s. extremely little to no screen lag and no other noticeable performance lag at all. but simply flashing a custom rom did not fix my lag.
Try GenericGinger 2.0, I use it. I've never had my phone freeze, EVER. The speed is good, battery life great. Quadrant Standard score 1700+ google search it. I'm sure it won't be a waste of time
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I have been using this phone for a month, and it seems everything runs smoothly. just the battery life, like other smart phones, is disappointing.
Way too often for me, I'm not gonna lie and say it never did, evn though I love this phone to death. Too bad the only beastly phone out there with a keyboard close to the sk's is on verizon.
Then again, I'm not sure what I do that makes it freeze a lot.
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Have had my phone reboot due to running completely out of memory some cases an others just wtf why you reboot momments. Worst issue i had was dealing with a possible issue in the built in kernal drivers for the bluetooth talking with my kia souls bluetooth stereo cause it seamed now an then at work (pizza delivery) the phone wouldn't disconnect correctly an would cause other issues, like...... overheating x.X an it wasn't the battery cause the face of the phone was hotter then the back where the battery was an by hot i mean like almost hot enough to cause a burn x.x! Love the sidekick an if the devs can make a rom that patches every single issue the factory firmware has in it I'll very likely go back to it, but at this time I'm happy with my edge speed on my captivate (daily driver) an X10 mini pro (amazing backup phone that never fails )
Completly forgot sbout this one weird issus. One day, I magically lost root, had bto reflash to get it back, I have no idea how it could've happened because I wasn't messing aroun with anything.
Ever happe3ned to any of you guys?
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Uno if ur tired of rebooting getg a g2
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I had some major issues yesterday with glorious overdose rom, I switched to gingerclone v2 and all is well now. Stock this phone is a turd....
I had to disable the trackpad today because in sunlight it would go hay wire and I wasn't able to browse online
is that what it is when i feel my screen going haywire? i'll be trying to text someone and then it keeps scrolling up the conversation and then trying to do a search throughout that convo...jeez i thought it was just a nasty bug haha i'll have to disable it then, i dont use it anyways...wish they would have brought back the trackball from the SKIII....now THAT trackball was cool.
I disabled it and now im not having issues with it. I get this annoying browser lag tho and I need to stop that. I am looking to get a different phone now. Im sure someone who is a heavy texter would love to have this phone...
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Try GenericGinger 2.0, I use it. I've never had my phone freeze, EVER. The speed is good, battery life great. Quadrant Standard score 1700+ google search it. I'm sure it won't be a waste of time
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Omg! This ROM is perfect! This is exactly what I've been looking for! I wish I could hit the thanks button a billion times!
4th Option
4th option - Factory Reset, Rooted, added App Killer and uninstalled most of the Bloatware (Like DriveSource)
works much better now, even with the Stock ROM.
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...I have had no more then 10 battery pulls were the phone froze. Generally I pull the battery when I need to turn it off quick....
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Push PowerButton and Volume button [+ or -] at the same time for 10 seconds. This is a little faster & easier than a battery pull.
For a while I was using Ice Cream Sandwich v2.0 Domination with the ICS launcher removed and ADW launcher in its place. Everything was fine except for the Gallery. It would take forever to load picture, and occasionally, it would reboot my device if it took too long. I just switched to GenericGinger 2.0, and I've had no problems with crashes or reboots.
I'm running Gingerclone w/ Voodoo Lag Fix and V6 Supercharger Aggressive 2. Using Tegrak to OC up to 1.152 and I'm consistently pulling quadrant scores of 2200+.
On the stock ROM the phone froze and rebooted frequently. On GingerClone I haven't had it crash once yet.
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Oh and I forgot to mention some things. First in Tegrak I set the CPU low limit to 200mhz and the governor to performance. Makes a HUGE difference in quadrant score and minimal effect on battery life.
Kj2 deodexed and rooted.
Stock browser, Gallery, and recently, Defender 2 cause it to lock up.
Stock browser and Gallery lock up less than on kg2 deodexed/rooted, but still do.
Gallery only on loading, and browser on scrolling.
I had that issue allot then I make it an effort to wipe the cache in recovery once per week, fixes its wagon for me. I also a running back to basics and dealing with the touchwiz launcher. Sacrificing looks in the name of this thing working properly is the name of the game.
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I had that issue allot then I make it an effort to wipe the cache in recovery once per week, fixes its wagon for me. I also a running back to basics and dealing with the touchwiz launcher. Sacrificing looks in the name of this thing working properly is the name of the game.
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Just wipe cache, or wipe cache and dalvik cache?
I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
I bought my tf300 yesterday, and couldn't be happier. I unlocked it and installed aokp this morning and things have been great. Haven't noticed any lag viewing webpages, youtube, music etc. I've been very happy with this tabIet, as it's my first one. I believe aokp allows you to overclock to 1.5ghz (obviously it drains batteries a little bit more) but even on the stock asus rom, i encountered no lag whatsoever.
as shocking as it might be to know..i have not yet rooted the tf300t. i've been using it for over a month now..i got it the week that it came out..and i've happy with it. every once in a while you will see a "freeze" for now reason. It does seem to freeze more on startup because it is trying to do several things at once (like update gmail, corporate account, and sync up other things). But after that it is really smooth.
I was talking to another friend about this and he managed to hunt down someone else having similar issues to me and Asus declared their product to be defective, issue a new one, which works "flawlessly". I guess it's back to Office Depot I go. I refuse to let Apple win.
Hopefully you get a working one, I'm enjoying mine quite a bit. The aokp rom is quick and fun to use, and I refuse to ever own apple products. Go android!
I bought mine about 2 weeks ago , and it freezes one or 2 times , but in general works great , didn't unlocked and changed to custom roms yet but will in future , but for now i am loving it
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Have it now for 6+ weeks. Stock/rooted. Works like a champ. Good tablet apps are the issue, not the tab. No way you should have the issues you do.
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Nice performance
Got mine 3 weeks before. unlocked it and rooted from the second day, i am really happy from the latest update the us.30 for me. i dont experience any lag or freezes or force closes at all. The performance is better but it always depends on the owner.
I found useful to install an app called autostarts (needs root) that prevents apps from being loaded at any time u use your device.
For example i cant understand why google play store must open when i remove an application. With this program i prevent things from loading at startup of the device, so i have a quicker startup time and i know that no other apps are in use when i dont need them and only working is the app that i use.
U can see what apps are runnig at any time with a task manager or something relevant.
So as i say before the performance of a device depends also on the owner.
I bought 2 tf300's, one for me and one for my girlfriend. Mine has Cyanogenmod 9 on it, hers has stock (.30 firmware).
I will say that mine is noticeably faster, Chrome doesn't lag hardly ever, hers freezes up a lot more.
You should be careful about some apps too, Facebook in my opinion is the worst. That app will cause your phone/tablet to lag like nothing else, as soon as I uninstalled Facebook on my girlfriends tablet it was like a brand new machine (though still not quite as fast as CM 9)
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I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
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I was having this issue also and was getting pretty fed up with it.
However, after doing a reset on the device it works perfectly now. Resetting the device formats the primary partition and takes it back to stock (keeping firmware updates). You can get to this option by turning the device off and holding the volume down button when powering on and it should be the second option. This stopped the force closes and lags with my TF300T
I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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Charle692 said:
I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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Yeah. Seanz' Hydro rom makes stock appear laggy and unresponsive my device was running slow before the. 30 firmware update.
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The lag is mostly happening due to the I/O scheduler in the kernel. We probably won't see the true performance on this tablet until we get a custom kernel. The source is on ASUS's website but no kernel hackers have this device. The lag only shows when mounting and un mounting SD cards, writing to SD cards/NAND and downloading/updating Play store apps.
The only fix I know so far is to go find a SIO scheduler from the Transformer Prime's forum and install it. I did that and the lag went away but looking at benchmarks for I/O schedulers (noop vs SIO), noop has lag but higher scores and SIO has very little or no lag with lower scores.
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27948613
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I opened this thread to help shed some light on the battery issues that keep occurring (and many ppl trying to downgrade end up bricking because of that).
I'm not sure the leak was meant for all revisions, because some have problems running it properly.
This guy made the connection, and i think he might be on to something:
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I think there may be two different AT&T MB865's in the wild- the originally release fcc id IHDT56MV1 approved in September 2011 and the IHDT56MV2 that passed through the FCC in January 2012.
This may explain the 1.2ghz clock on your phones, cause mine is definitely still 1.0ghz.
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You can check it if you remove battery, its on a sticker on the back.
You can check your default clock with setcpu(2.23 avaliable for free on xda), OR search for "cpu" in play store, "antutu cpu master" will show up, its free and reports same values as setcpu.
I'll start: im running V1 /default 1.2clock /no batter issues (I was bootlooping at 1.2 on GB, so i used 1125).
Please vote so we can get an idea whats happening with the clocks and why do people have battery problems !!
Well I am a V1 and 1GZ clock, NEVER over or under clocked the phone before with any of the ROMs... so, I am thinking might have something to do with it... Also no battery issues.
V1 1ghz. And I was overclocked on 2.3.6 to 1.2 battery on ics is great for me
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
V1, 1.2. I was overclocked through Romulus 2.0 which was at 1130 if i'm not mistaken.
And I have AMAZING battery life with ICS. Much better than GB.
I've found something interesting, not sure if the guy is talking hot air though, source:
Actually the 4430 isn't overclocked in the RAZRs, it's running at 1.2GHz "Turbo" mode, an undocumented clock speed for 4430 chips tested at the factory to be stable at 1.2 GHz and run at normal temperatures. These chips are separated from the rest of the production run and sold at a premium with the 1.2 GHz "Turbo" identification.
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It really isnt documented, this is from ti.com
OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
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And the RAZR was 1.2 from day one. Considering its realease date, and the start of sampling of 4430 (ti.com says "currently sampling" as of 28 March 2011) they well had enough "Turbo certified" samples to make a phone using only those.
In short, hes story seems legit.
But why do we have two different clocks and how does the rom determine which setting its going to run on.
I dont think CPUs themselves "know" if they are certified, they are just placed in another box after the tests(being a bit vague here).
Just like some OC edition video cards; fitted with a better cooler, placed in a different retail package(with higher price).
Then again some OC video cards do get a modded bios (but not at the OEM level).
If they had a different firmware/serial numbering like desktop cpus then it would be documented and listed on the ti.com site.
But could it be that they "know" it after all? I'm not even sure these ARM SoC-s have something like a GPU bios register that tells them the voltages per states and clock rates(that they could flash while still on the test line) at all.
The reason this is interesting is that if its burned in on an individual chip level, the hw revision holds no relevance at all.
OR There could be some test after first install and it falls back to 1.0 if you get a reboot... obviously I didnt stumble into this and it wouldn't seem like a professional method from motorola at all.
Anyone running 1.0 carefully watching(and remembering, lol) the process could clear this one up though.
I'm on V1, setcpu is reading 1 ghz, I think my battery on ics seems OK, maybe drains a slight slight bit faster than before, but maybe that's my imagination!
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V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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dicksteele said:
V1 at 1.0. Ran overclocked on 2.3.6 Roms at 1125.
1.2 bootlooped on every rom I flashed .
And I tried them all.
ICS leak is running sweet. Only interesting thing I've seen is uninstalling stock bloat, ATT crap, through Absolute System app (which is step 3 after every flash) is it says it uninstalls but it don't.
Like ATT family map or YouTube.
Says successful uninstall. Google restore is off, so no clue. Of course stopped trying after hard brick scare.
Battery is great, wifi and data fast. Only installed spare parts to set animation and window transition to fast. Originally it popped up on slow setting. That was odd.
Hit my upgrade date last week, but for some reason ATRIX is my choice. I had the original also.
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You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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You know with ics, the at&t bloat can just be disabled, which is probably safer than uninstalling!
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Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.
I had a v1 and ICS was clocked @1200 for me. I have never been that high - always got unstable around 1175 on gb - but it was smooth as butter on ics.. recovery operations were so damn quick.
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My phone is V1 and I used to run at 1.335 on GB. I am now clocked at 1.0 ghz by default on ICS.
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Yeah I agree just get a bloat freezer app, much safer.
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No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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No, I was saying that you don't even need a bloat freezer app, by default in stock ics you are able to disable (freeze) any system apps. Its a new feature in ics!
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So far, I haven't gotten a single app to show me the disable button, just force stop and uninstall.
My battery life is GARBAGE. I used to get 18 hours + on a single charge, but now I barely make it 12 hours.
V1 - 1000 Ghz - Battery Problems
Even though I didn't install the ICS leak, I wanted to chime in because I've been having battery issues for some weeks/months.
When I bought the phone the battery worked well. After the 2.3.6 update the battery lasted even longer than before. So I was happy and everything. Now a few weeks/months ago I get to the end of the night with only 20% or 10%. Sometimes it even dies! I tried everything, even replacing the battery, and nothing, still poor battery.
I think battery life is also subjective. There should be a standard as to what is good or bad. I have used my phone pretty heavily today with wifi on and im at 9 hrs and 30% remaining. This seems okay to me, but I noticed some people getting over 24 hrs on a charge so maybe half a day isn't that great.
My battery life is definitely better on ICS though. And it's also possible some of you are playing with all the fun stuff involving ICS for long periods of time which is making the battery die faster then boring GB where it stays in your pocket the whole day.
Anyway, I have a V1 and i'm at 1 ghz, ICS is noticeably faster. In GB I could run as high as 1.25ghz, and I would overclock using a script, not an overclocked ROM
I'm v1 clocked at 1.2 ics leak. I bootlooped at 1.2 on gb. At first I thought my battery wasn't right. Seemed to charge really slowly. After a couple cycles though I'm pretty happy with it. I have basically the same battery life as before.
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I was using Remus on gd.
I uninstalled all the at&t bloat with no problem.
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[email protected], no battery issues.
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has anyone else noticed that no one with a v2 has even voted? are we sure there is a v2? lol
where do i check my a2 versioN?
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where do i check my a2 versioN?
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under the battery look at the fcc number and compare to first post.
Hey guys,
My HOXL is currently running ViperXL 2.20, the Beast Mode Kernel at 1.8ghz and -25mv undervolting, sweep2wake and sweep2unlock enabled, as well as aznrice's audio mods. (VooDoo Mode). I'm using the SIO scaler and the smartassv2 governor, occasionally intellidemand.
The thing dun lags. It's slow, unresponsive, choppy. It seems as though my free ram gets eaten up rather quickly, but I get general lag even when it's empty. I don't use any task killers either, I let android take care of that part.
I get wake lag, homescreen lag (Apex Launcher Pro), lag when launching apps, lag while scrolling through apps, just lag. My quadrant is great, in the upper 5000 range, but that doesn't reflect real world performance at all.
It seems as though the lag comes and goes. One minute it'll be fine and fairly responsive, and the next minute it won't. It's usually the latter though. I've tried clean flashing the rom, no success.
What could be wrong here? I played with the HOX+ at AT&T today and I loved it, but I'm reluctant to buy it because of the T3's horrendous DAC. I was even thinking of just going for a Galaxy Note II, and I hate Samsung.
Thanks in advance.
Buy a new phone when you mess yours up?..where have I read this before......?hmm..I do not get any lag whatsoever on viper. Have you even tried reflashing,changing back to stock,factory reset etc.. are you past your 30 Days...by the way new phones come out every month literally so their will always be one faster. You just seem like the person who switches phones because the phone you have you caused the problems...
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Buy a new phone when you mess yours up?..where have I read this before......?hmm..I do not get any lag whatsoever on viper. Have you even tried reflashing,changing back to stock,factory reset etc.. are you past your 30 Days...by the way new phones come out every month literally so their will always be one faster. You just seem like the person who switches phones because the phone you have you caused the problems...
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Not quite. The HOXL's measly 16gb of memory is killing me, otherwise I love the phone. I'm just in the position to sell the HOXL for double what I paid, get a new phone using someone else's line (because they don't want to upgrade...lol) and profit The only reason I'm not jumping into this decision is because I'd like to see what comes in the next few months. 64gb is awesome though. I got my HOXL on launch day, so I'm way past the 30 day window. I do realize that phones will just become faster, but I'm not too big on the lag I'm seeing here that often makes the phone unusable. It's pretty bad dude.
I've tried reflashing, factory reset numerous times, nothing. Initially, the phone will be snappy as usual, but over the course of a couple of days the lag just comes back. Then again, I was comparing ICS to the smoothness of JB on the HOX+. This lag I'm getting is just something I haven't seen happen before. What kernel are you using? Governor, etc? OC/UV?
Viper has been pretty zippy for me lately...avoid restore system apps...if you're reporting this after a couple hours of usage...wait a couple days and than report back
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Viper has been pretty zippy for me lately...avoid restore system apps...if you're reporting this after a couple hours of usage...wait a couple days and than report back
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I only restore my user apps and data, never the system stuff. This is after a week or two of usage, I started using Viper when it was on 1.2.4 a little while ago. The incremental updates did speed it up a bit, but my phone seems to be "choking" to get things done.
Trust me you'll see another jaw dripping HTC released around April I say it even sooner so if you can wait with your one xl you'll have a very good phone.... The one x+ does seem very tempting though
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Trust me you'll see another jaw dripping HTC released around April I say it even sooner so if you can wait with your one xl you'll have a very good phone.... The one x+ does seem very tempting though
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That's why I'm holding off a bit lol. I'm assuming that in the near future, Android will match up to/efficiently use the hardware being delivered, essentially becoming synergistic.
Using viper xl with the total opposite of your experience man, try to flash the elemental kernel. Im using it with noop.scheduler and intellidemand governor with UC to 1,3ghz and it has NEVER, for real,been lagged once
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I would not buy anything new right now. Wait until we get a GSM version of the Droid DNA, which makes the One X+ look outdated already.
I was considering that, I really wish att had the DNA.
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Have you ever been satisfied with the responsiveness of the phone on a stock rom or was it always choppy as you feel it is now?
When it was bone dry stock, it was quick and responsive, felt like JB even. Not so much anymore though.
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i found at&t stock, debloating it myself with some minor mods to be faster then most of the sense roms i've tried
Hmm i had a bit of lag on viper xl 1.x series then i went cm10 to dirty rom had no speed issues on the aosp side just a bit more battery drain compared to the sense roms but my multitasking is more realistic on the aosp side imo. I would say try cleanrom always loved it for closer to bare bones experience.
Me too
I've experienced the exact same issue, although mine ran fine for the first week or so, and then started taking a ****. Stock stays fast, Viper after the first week or two regardless of kernel and cpu speed starts to lag. I've tried CM10 which speed wise is fine (buggy as all hell for me though, no offence CM dev's.. you need more time/source) and doesn't seem to slow down. So far I've flashed CleanRom and IMO it's night and day compared to Viper. Maybe try that?