I've got a few questions about the N5 if you folks don't mind answering. Any input would be greatly appreciated
How satisfied are you with your N5, both in terms of the body and performance? Easy to operate with one hand?
What is the default DPI? My Moto G is 320, wishing it was better than that.
I've got a Moto G, and I have enough system UI FCs with both the CM and Paranoid ROM that it is quite annoying and I am back on stock, unrooted (since I never can find flashable zips of the stock ROMs). Even like that if I dirty flash the latest RC/M release. How stable are the RC/M releases of CM and Paranoid on the N5? Any kinds of errors or problems of any sort?
How good is the battery life? I don't have a data plan, don't make very many calls (less than one a day on average and then they are normally only a few minutes), and barely use GPS/Bluetooth, so the only battery drain would be using apps and wifi. I'd say I probably use anywhere from 3-5 hours of on screen time on a heavy days use, based on the battery stats I see when I check it on my Moto G from time to time.
If I root the N5, without flashing a custom ROM or recovery, can it still receive OTA Android updates?
Does Google have a good history of supporting it's older devices with OS updates (all nexus, even the old school ones before the Nexus 4, and GPE type devices, for example)? Afterall, I don't want to buy it and find out that a year from now Google won't be upgrading it to the latest OS. I know there are always custom ROMs to accomplish that, but I know sometimes they aren't always as stable when a device doesn't have an official OS upgrade released.
scottharris4 said:
What is the default DPI? My Moto G is 320, wishing it was better than that.
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I'm not answering most of your questions because they've all been answered before.
This question though, doesn't make sense. DPI isn't better or worse. Perhaps you don't understand what DPI is so I'll help with that.
dpi explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51520848
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rootSU said:
I'm not answering most of your questions because they've all been answered before.
This question though, doesn't make sense. DPI isn't better or worse. Perhaps you don't understand what DPI is so I'll help with that.
dpi explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51520848
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Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
1. extremely satisfied, really. in cant say anything bad about it.
2. there are much better roms than cm or paranoid. stop looking at whats popular, as popular is rarely best.
3. i see 5 hours screen on time every day. but battery life is determined by how youy personally use the phone, how you personally set it up, what apps you use, and very much the quality of data/phone signal that you get.
4. if you root your phone, without changing any files at all, you can receive and apply an ota. but once you change 1 file, you wont be able to flash an ota. but thats ok, you can always flash manually.
5. google has an extraordinary history of supporting its devices. we have even had google engineers help us with nexus devices on xda before
about stability and roms, nexus devices arent like the others. the public source is always available to a nexus, so no modding needed. on older devices, that google has stopped supporting, aosp will still work on them, its only the binaries that dont get pushed out anymore.
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scottharris4 said:
Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
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now see, you see that as "better", where i see that as far worse.
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about stability and roms, nexus devices arent like the others. the public source is always available to a nexus, so no modding needed. on older devices, that google has stopped supporting, aosp will still work on them, its only the binaries that dont get pushed out anymore.
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So do the binaries not getting updated effect the ability to give a complete OS upgrade?
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So do the binaries not getting updated effect the ability to give a complete OS upgrade?
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in a way, yes, as the binaries will never get updated. but in another way no, as on the gnex, nexus s, and nexus one actually they are just reusing the older binaries with the new os versions.
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in a way, yes, as the binaries will never get updated. but in another way no, as on the gnex, nexus s, and nexus one actually they are just reusing the older binaries with the new os versions.
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So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
scottharris4 said:
So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
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new features, code?
yea, changing anything will prevent you from flashing an ota. youll still receive the ota, just wont be able to flash it. again, its extremely easy to flash it manually, you dont have to look for otas. manually, you can even flash the new update even before you get the ota. and you dont need root to flash manually.
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So what would old binaries prevent?
Also, if I rooted and changed my DPI, would that prevent an OTA update?
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Mann you're thinking too much. If you can wait, I'll surely suggest you to look into the next possible nexus codenamed "Shamu" which has entered the rumorland.
Yes, it would. DPI needs to be changed in the build.prop file which is a system file.
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Mann you're thinking too much. If you can wait, I'll surely suggest you to look into the next possible nexus codenamed "Shamu" which has entered the rumorland.
Yes, it would. DPI needs to be changed in the build.prop file which is a system file.
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If the rumor is true about the screen size of the Nexus 6, that thing is going to be too damn big for my liking.
I like everything about the nexus 5 EXCEPT: LTE problems. Signal stability in LTE is poor. Sometimes with LTE on, I cannot make a phone call or get "data not available" errors. A power down/up fixes the problem (sometimes toggling airplane mode also fixes but not always). Everywhere I get 1 bar of LTE I get 3bars or better with my Blackberry Q10 phone. Where I get 3-4 bars of LTE on the Nexus, download speeds of 33MB/sec while I get 47 MB/Sec with my Blackberry.
And that is my only issue as I like the Nexus 5 in all other aspects.
Neither Google nor TMO could fix this LTE issue (it is a known issue if you check the web but TMO says it is not a known issue). I am waiting for a callback from Google-they will probably send me another (which most likely won't work well either).
I have a stock OS (4.4.4), bootloader unlocked, rooted and have installed Xposed modules (Gravity, Xblast ).
AndroidMilos said:
I like everything about the nexus 5 EXCEPT: LTE problems. Signal stability in LTE is poor. Sometimes with LTE on, I cannot make a phone call or get "data not available" errors. A power down/up fixes the problem (sometimes toggling airplane mode also fixes but not always). Everywhere I get 1 bar of LTE I get 3bars or better with my Blackberry Q10 phone. Where I get 3-4 bars of LTE on the Nexus, download speeds of 33MB/sec while I get 47 MB/Sec with my Blackberry.
And that is my only issue as I like the Nexus 5 in all other aspects.
Neither Google nor TMO could fix this LTE issue (it is a known issue if you check the web but TMO says it is not a known issue). I am waiting for a callback from Google-they will probably send me another (which most likely won't work well either).
I have a stock OS (4.4.4), bootloader unlocked, rooted and have installed Xposed modules (Gravity, Xblast ).
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its NOT an issue with the phone, it could very well be an issue with your local network. oh, and you cant compare bars.. first, those bars tell you about phone signal, not data. secondly, every manufacturer use their own codes for the bars. one phones 1 bar could be equal to another phones 3 bars. oh, and xposed causes many undocumented issues. depending what you are using it for, it might very well play a role in your issues.
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Guess I should have been more clear. I meant better as in lower so I can fit more on the screen. 320 dpi on the moto g makes everything bigger than I prefer. I had it at 245 when I was rooted on a custom ROM.
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Yes but the moto g is a different phone with a different PPI. Knowing the DPI of the nexus 5 tells you nothing. But you can still change it.
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So satisfied I just bought another one.
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
Fabiceju said:
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
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What's wrong with the camera?
Fabiceju said:
Yes I'm satisfied, except for the camera and for the battery...
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whats wrong with the camera? and the battery?
battery life is all about how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and the quality of your phone/data connection. if that quality is only so so, then no matter what you do, your battery life will only be so so.
and some images from the past 48 hours.. maybe you need a lesson about how to use the camera?
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whats wrong with the camera? and the battery?
battery life is all about how you personally use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and the quality of your phone/data connection. if that quality is only so so, then no matter what you do, your battery life will only be so so.
and some images from the past 48 hours.. maybe you need a lesson about how to use the camera?
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About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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i know its a thing that continues to be told over and over.. kernels wont improve your battery life. its an untruth. if it was true, every single person would be using the same "magic" kernel. i will get the exact same battery life on any kernel. regardless if it has "battery saving" code included or not. if you set up your cpu, on any kernel, the same, you'll get the same battery life. and my battery life is great, i get 5 hours screen on time no matter what. thats more than most lg g2 users get, and thats a 3000mah battery. it doesnt matter if you use apps like greenify or not, if your setup or phone/data signals arent good, youll have lousy battery life.
about the cam.. the camera isnt some expensive camera for professional use, its a mobile phone camera. and its not the top mobile phone camera either. but it is near the top, and takes great photos. if you are a person that actually knows how to use a camera, not just point and click, then the camera should should be quite more than just adequate for you. give me a camera, even the worst, and ill privide you with great photos.
Fabiceju said:
About the battery life...i do an intensive use of the phone.. I use app like greenify and quarantine to disable the app/services that I don't use... I also flash ElementalX kernel to improve performance and battery life..But a 3000mah battery could be awesome... About the camera... Producers like Sony or HTC are soooo far better about camera lens.. And NO, I don't need lesson from you
But I agree that, for 349 euros (dollars) LG can't do more (excepet a bigger battery)
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I totally agree with you.. I didn't want to be rude with you.. I'm not an expert with camera settings
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So finally my atrix 2 has arrived after a month in service center........its awesome phone with some cons.....i have used quadrant standard benchmark nd my scored is 1900 only ...even below atrix....nenamark 2 doesnt even open it just open nd close..no force close error nothing.....buggy and laggy interference ..... display is kinda high contrast ....losses lots of details in dark areas..... totally evident in movies...if ur choice is movie watching than this phone will seriously dissappoint u like me sound quality awesome...camera awesome in daylight worst in night....totally visible green tint......battery very bad....even on wifi it drains 10% battery every 30mins.. hope ICS COMES OUT BETTER ....
BTW HAS ANYONE NOTICED THIS ISSUES?
AND WHAT THE AVERAGE QUADRANT NENAMARK2 BENCHMARK SCORES IS ON A2....I DONT KNOW MINE ALWAYS 1900 0nly
GaganPla said:
So finally my atrix 2 has arrived after a month in service center........its awesome phone with some cons.....i have used quadrant standard benchmark nd my scored is 1900 only ...even below atrix....nenamark 2 doesnt even open it just open nd close..no force close error nothing.....buggy and laggy interference ..... display is kinda high contrast ....losses lots of details in dark areas..... totally evident in movies...if ur choice is movie watching than this phone will seriously dissappoint u like me sound quality awesome...camera awesome in daylight worst in night....totally visible green tint......battery very bad....even on wifi it drains 10% battery every 30mins.. hope ICS COMES OUT BETTER ....
BTW HAS ANYONE NOTICED THIS ISSUES?
AND WHAT THE AVERAGE QUADRANT NENAMARK2 BENCHMARK SCORES IS ON A2....I DONT KNOW MINE ALWAYS 1900 0nly
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that all seems odd to me. my screen is great
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lkrasner said:
that all seems odd to me. my screen is great
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+1. My battery last me a good 16 hours with steady use, and most of that is on wifi. Bad repair?
RE: Battery Drain Rate
Have read a lot of complaints about sudden onset of battery problems and experienced this myself posting a thread a few weeks ago. My Atrix 2 was "repaired" with no effect and finally replaced but shortly after receiving the replacement the problem recurred.
Since then I have noticed that even with data not enabled the “4G” signal is frequently lost with the icon changing to a grey square with a red cross inside. Although short duration this could be a contributing factor. Haven’t been in an area of consistently high signal quality/strength to see if there is a correlation but hope to test this tomorrow.
My current battery life is that even in standby with pretty much maximum power saving settings the phone requires charging about every 36 hours. I have confirmed that I do not have any software or settings that would cause this.
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So finally my atrix 2 has arrived after a month in service center........its awesome phone with some cons.....i have used quadrant standard benchmark nd my scored is 1900 only ...even below atrix....nenamark 2 doesnt even open it just open nd close..no force close error nothing.....buggy and laggy interference ..... display is kinda high contrast ....losses lots of details in dark areas..... totally evident in movies...if ur choice is movie watching than this phone will seriously dissappoint u like me sound quality awesome...camera awesome in daylight worst in night....totally visible green tint......battery very bad....even on wifi it drains 10% battery every 30mins.. hope ICS COMES OUT BETTER ....
BTW HAS ANYONE NOTICED THIS ISSUES?
AND WHAT THE AVERAGE QUADRANT NENAMARK2 BENCHMARK SCORES IS ON A2....I DONT KNOW MINE ALWAYS 1900 0nly
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First of all, why was your Atrix 2 in service, and did Moto repair your phone or send you a refurbished one -or do you know? Second, your benchmark scores are rated on several different testing variables. This score may change up or down depending on sdcard size/class in testing read/write speeds, if your running a custom rom with certain tweaks within the rom it may score higher than stock, or lower depending on the OS or rom's configurations and settings. Try a different benchmark testing app, like CF-Bench or AnTuTu Benchmark. You'll notice that even though they both are testing for benchmark scores, you will have different final scores from each app. Not sure why, but I'm sure there's some viable explanation for this. I'm hitting in the 6300-6700 range on benchmark with my MB865 (overclocked to 1.25GHz) running a custom rom with tweaks, but your score seems to be abnormally low. As far as the display, have you adjusted your screen settings in any way? You can disable the 'automatic brightness' setting to disallow the phone to compensate for ambient light (or darkness) to adjust the screen's brightness. With regards to the battery, have you disabled Wi-Fi when not connecting to a network as well as disabling Bluetooth when not in use? This saves on battery because the device will continually search for connections for both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth if enabled, thus draining your battery. If you are still having difficulties with your battery life, try to calibrate it (if rooted) with an app from the market, or follow these steps to try to get the battery reporting where it should be: Click HERE! Hope this helps...
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+1. My battery last me a good 16 hours with steady use, and most of that is on wifi. Bad repair?
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+1 my A2's display is great, battery after calibrstion improved significantly.
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Thanks 4 the replies guys....good to hear u guys not facing any issues
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that all seems odd to me. my screen is great
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see how there is loss of details in dark areas due to high contrast
@Apex_Strider my phone had network issues after updating to latest 2.3.6 ...keeps losing signal so they said they would replaced the phone with all accessories in box with new one.I got a whole new phone box like when u buy new A2.i Crossed check IMEI and it was different ....no refurbished...i m on stock rom unrooted .when i checked the rom it was 2.3.6 but still showing new update of 32 MB . so i updated again to 2.3.6 .Difference was new lockscreen now
SYSTEM VERSION- 55.28.37.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03
Build Number-5.5.1-EDEM-28-37
So is this update all the reason behind those issues??
Battery i will manage but quadrant benchmark is 1500 1st run on 2nd run its 1900 on 3rd run is 1890
NENAMARk 2 Doesnt even open
Jce9182 said:
+1. My battery last me a good 16 hours with 0steady use, and most of that is on wifi. Bad repair?
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lol i would say bad replacement.
goodgulf said:
Have read a lot of complaints about sudden onset of battery problems and experienced this myself posting a thread a few weeks ago. My Atrix 2 was "repaired" with no effect and finally replaced but shortly after receiving the replacement the problem recurred.
Since then I have noticed that even with data not enabled the “4G” signal is frequently lost with the icon changing to a grey square with a red cross inside. Although short duration this could be a contributing factor. Haven’t been in an area of consistently high signal quality/strength to see if there is a correlation but hope to test this tomorrow.
My current battery life is that even in standby with pretty much maximum power saving settings the phone requires charging about every 36 hours. I have confirmed that I do not have any software or settings that would cause this.
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When Signal is weak .....phone tries to boost its own signal thus draining battery at much faster rate than ....when i turned on my 3g battery drain was awefully very high i could use just 3-4 hours on 3g downloading apps and signal was weak
neocore 58.4 fps
linpack
single/multi thread
mflops - 42.729/61.873
time - 1.96/2,73 seconds
norm res - 5.68/3.24
precision - 2.22E-16/inconsistent result
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total 2141, cpu 3365, mem 2420, i/0 2585, 2D 233, 3D 2100
nenamark 2 doesnt work for me
nenamark 1 gave me 50.4fps
X-jo said:
neocore 58.4 fps
linpack
single/multi thread
mflops - 42.729/61.873
time - 1.96/2,73 seconds
norm res - 5.68/3.24
precision - 2.22E-16/inconsistent result
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total 2141, cpu 3365, mem 2420, i/0 2585, 2D 233, 3D 2100
nenamark 2 doesnt work for me
nenamark 1 gave me 50.4fps
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same here nenamark 2 doesnt work .....but my quadrant score is still very low 1900 & nenamark1 54.7fps
rest of the scores are almost identical
If you tilt the phone a bit you can make the screen look better. It's weird usually that makes it worse but it actually can make it better and you see more details.
GaganPla said:
same here nenamark 2 doesnt work .....but my quadrant score is still very low 1900 & nenamark1 54.7fps
rest of the scores are almost identical
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Tried the same, nenamark 1 gives roughly identical results and nenamark 2 doesn't even open. Try a different benchmark utility and see what you score at...
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Apex_Strider said:
Tried the same, nenamark 1 gives roughly identical results and nenamark 2 doesn't even open. Try a different benchmark utility and see what you score at...
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i would but benchmark is not much of my concern its real life performance is...i installed go launcher nd it takes good 2seconds to just open app drawer ....i think either motorola screw up with update or update didnt installed right on my phone
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If you tilt the phone a bit you can make the screen look better. It's weird usually that makes it worse but it actually can make it better and you see more details.
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not a good way to watch movies on such a capable phone .......whats worse is that even when connected to hd tv through hdmi it mirrors exactly whats shown on phone means, when i see dark scene on phone its same effect is shown in tv ....results loss of details in dark areas even on hd tv .....
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i would but benchmark is not much of my concern its real life performance is...i installed go launcher nd it takes good 2seconds to just open app drawer ....i think either motorola screw up with update or update didnt installed right on my phone
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Some users of Go Launcher running on their ATRIX 2s have complained about the very same thing: laggy, glitchy, etc. I even stopped using because it would 'hang' for a second or two when switching homescreens. I emailed the dev and got no reply. After the update I started getting these crummy performances from this launcher. So, uninstalled and running ADW Launcher. Much better in my opinion. I'm telling you, if you run a different benchmark utility you'll see your performance scores and possibly get a better idea as to whether your ATRIX 2 is having performance issues. You can always try factory reset or FXZ to 2.3.5. then OTA to 2.3.6. and see if that helps. Highly doubt its a "bad" update from Moto- but you never know...
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Some users of Go Launcher running on their ATRIX 2s have complained about the very same thing: laggy, glitchy, etc. I even stopped using because it would 'hang' for a second or two when switching homescreens. I emailed the dev and got no reply. After the update I started getting these crummy performances from this launcher. So, uninstalled and running ADW Launcher. Much better in my opinion. I'm telling you, if you run a different benchmark utility you'll see your performance scores and possibly get a better idea as to whether your ATRIX 2 is having performance issues. You can always try factory reset or FXZ to 2.3.5. then OTA to 2.3.6. and see if that helps. Highly doubt its a "bad" update from Moto- but you never know...
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Thanks 4 the reply.....good to hear my phone is issueless nd i m facing common issues......btw i did factory reset when i updated to OTA 2.3.6...flashing to 2.3.5 again ,but i have indian phone nd officials rom here are of AT&T so will there be a issue if i returned phone for warrenty purpose?...as u suggesting i will try antutu nd see if scores matches ur without much difference .....
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Thanks 4 the reply.....good to hear my phone is issueless nd i m facing common issues......btw i did factory reset when i updated to OTA 2.3.6...flashing to 2.3.5 again ,but i have indian phone nd officials rom here are of AT&T so will there be a issue if i returned phone for warrenty purpose?...as u suggesting i will try antutu nd see if scores matches ur without much difference .....
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If you're going to send your phone to Moto for ANY reason you'll have to find the FXZ file and flash the appropriate one for your location, then OTA to 2.3.6. and leave everything stock with bloat. Otherwise Moto will see you've rooted and this will void your warranty, subsequently leaving you with NO support from them -which usually isn't much to begin with.
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If you're going to send your phone to Moto for ANY reason you'll have to find the FXZ file and flash the appropriate one for your location, then OTA to 2.3.6. and leave everything stock with bloat. Otherwise Moto will see you've rooted and this will void your warranty, subsequently leaving you with NO support from them -which usually isn't much to begin with.
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welll thanks for the reply and after some searching i found appropriate rom .....But to cure this problem ....i just installed ICS Leak Rom....hmm Motorola has done really good work with ics ....its pretty fast and smooth .....performance have double compared to 2.3.6 ...but i have a question now ....My phone officially came with SEARET Firmware ....so to install ICS i flash MEARET Firmware,than ICS....Now is for some reason i want to give my atrix 2 back to moto service center can i roll back to SEARET Firmware or will i have to flash MEARET Firmware than SEARET ??
My screen is fine, I have no problems with my phone.
GaganPla said:
welll thanks for the reply and after some searching i found appropriate rom .....But to cure this problem ....i just installed ICS Leak Rom....hmm Motorola has done really good work with ics ....its pretty fast and smooth .....performance have double compared to 2.3.6 ...but i have a question now ....My phone officially came with SEARET Firmware ....so to install ICS i flash MEARET Firmware,than ICS....Now is for some reason i want to give my atrix 2 back to moto service center can i roll back to SEARET Firmware or will i have to flash MEARET Firmware than SEARET ??
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My guess is that you'll need to flash back to stock just as you were when your ATRIX 2 came out of the box after purchase, sans any OTA updates that may have been available -but likely you just got it and it already ran 2.3.6. on the SEARET Firmware.
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I am debating on whether to buy the pro version and flash Franco's Kernel for my Nexus 5 and 7 (2013). I just want to know what I bits of extra I can really do with it.. And if its worth it. I'm more worried about stability than anything I guess. I don't want to run into little issues whether it be audio, video, whatever it may be. Also I have never flashed a kernel or another ROM, I've always stuck with stock. I am running 4.4.2 right now utilizing Gravity Box and Wanam Kit, and a few other modules. Any input would be greatly appreciated. If this thread has been done before, my apologies. I am a brand new forum user, never really get on the computer.
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I am debating on whether to buy the pro version and flash Franco's Kernel for my Nexus 5 and 7 (2013). I just want to know what I bits of extra I can really do with it.. And if its worth it. I'm more worried about stability than anything I guess. I don't want to run into little issues whether it be audio, video, whatever it may be. Also I have never flashed a kernel or another ROM, I've always stuck with stock. I am running 4.4.2 right now utilizing Gravity Box and Wanam Kit, and a few other modules. Any input would be greatly appreciated. If this thread has been done before, my apologies. I am a brand new forum user, never really get on the computer.
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Well to be honest the stock kernel allready is very good, the only downsides of it are batterylife/screenontime and colors are not very vibrant. These 2 aspects are substantialy better with Franco kernel. Screenontime and batterylife is improved by at least 50% or more for some (check out the Franco thread). Also you can raise the speaker/mic/in-call volume as you wish and load a color profile for better and more vibrant colors.
if you want stability stick with stock
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Well to be honest the stock kernel allready is very good, the only downsides of it are batterylife/screenontime and colors are not very vibrant. These 2 issues are substantialy better with Franco kernel. Screenontime and batterylife is improved by at least 50% or more for some (check out the Franco thread). Also you can raise the speaker/mic/in-call volume as you wish and load a color profile for better and more vibrant colors.
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I have been getting fantastic battery life with my setup now, I just leave brightness at auto, and from my bit of research, that seems to be the big culprit of battery life. I'm always looking to improve my phone in terms of performance and cosmetic, keeps me busy at negative 60 out here in North Dakota lol.
But 50% overall more battery life?! That's pretty friggin good. Would definitely pay for it for that kind of power.
I'm also assuming based on your post that the color control is not for LED control but the screen itself. Any idea if the Xposed LED module works well? I know its off topic just a quick question.
Not sure about the volumes, I usually don't mess with call volumes, but I'll look into it more.
Thanks for your post! Also please post the link to the Franco Thread.
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wardawgmalvicious said:
I have been getting fantastic battery life with my setup now, I just leave brightness at auto, and from my bit of research, that seems to be the big culprit of battery life. I'm always looking to improve my phone in terms of performance and cosmetic, keeps me busy at negative 60 out here in North Dakota lol.
But 50% overall more battery life?! That's pretty friggin good. Would definitely pay for it for that kind of power.
I'm also assuming based on your post that the color control is not for LED control but the screen itself. Any idea if the Xposed LED module works well? I know its off topic just a quick question.
Not sure about the volumes, I usually don't mess with call volumes, but I'll look into it more.
Thanks for your post! Also please post the link to the Franco Thread.
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If you are having trouble making a decision... just flash the kernel with fastboot and give it a test run. Can the free version of FKU auto flash? I'm not sure, you would have to investigate.
If you decide you like it (and the updates that go along with it), then maybe consider buying the app.
But yes, screen on time is better with FK due to the way the clock speeds scale. A lot better. Even with the stock settings, though I find even those to be a bit aggressive.
wardawgmalvicious said:
I have been getting fantastic battery life with my setup now, I just leave brightness at auto, and from my bit of research, that seems to be the big culprit of battery life. I'm always looking to improve my phone in terms of performance and cosmetic, keeps me busy at negative 60 out here in North Dakota lol.
But 50% overall more battery life?! That's pretty friggin good. Would definitely pay for it for that kind of power.
I'm also assuming based on your post that the color control is not for LED control but the screen itself. Any idea if the Xposed LED module works well? I know its off topic just a quick question.
Not sure about the volumes, I usually don't mess with call volumes, but I'll look into it more.
Thanks for your post! Also please post the link to the Franco Thread.
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Most users report a screenontime of about 5-7 hours while stock is about 3,5 hours. Don`t know about the Xposed module but color controll in the Franco kernel updater app is realy good and there are various preloaded settings available. Link thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284. Backup your current kernel in the FKU before you flash a Franco kernel, so you can restore it if need be.
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If you are having trouble making a decision... just flash the kernel with fastboot and give it a test run. Can the free version of FKU auto flash? I'm not sure, you would have to investigate.
If you decide you like it (and the updates that go along with it), then maybe consider buying the app.
But yes, screen on time is better with FK due to the way the clock speeds scale. A lot better. Even with the stock settings, though I find even those to be a bit aggressive.
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I believe you can, I'll look into when I get home.
So do you underclock or undervolt? I don't know the differences between the two, my apologies. If I do get Franco I think I will just leave it at the stock settings it comes with before I make any changes, still got learning to do. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
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Most users report a screenontime of about 5-7 hours while stock is about 3,5 hours. Don`t know about the Xposed module but color controll in the Franco kernel updater app is realy good and there are various preloaded settings available. Link thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284. Backup your current kernel in the FKU before you flash a Franco kernel, so you can restore it if need be.
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That's pretty awesome, definitely gonna try it out. I have a backup somewhere on my device, I think in Flashify, but I'll make another, can never hurt lol.
And thanks for the thread and all the other info!
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Stick with stock for at least long enough to give yourself a baseline to judge other ROMs/kernels against.
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Stick with stock for at least long enough to give yourself a baseline to judge other ROMs/kernels against.
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I've had my Nexus 5 for roughly 2 months now I think, are you saying I should wait it out or do more research first? It is very scary for me lol. I'm always afraid to be making major internal changes without some form of consultation and research.
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Also quick question, I don't need to back anything else up correct? Flashing a kernel does not mess with anything else does it?
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wardawgmalvicious said:
I've had my Nexus 5 for roughly 2 months now I think, are you saying I should wait it out or do more research first? It is very scary for me lol. I'm always afraid to be making major internal changes without some form of consultation and research.
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I wouldn`t mess with the kernel settings like UV/OC besides color and sound optimisations. The stock settings are allready good enough for most users, only xperienced users should do that imo.
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wardawgmalvicious said:
Also quick question, I don't need to back anything else up correct? Flashing a kernel does not mess with anything else does it?
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No, flashing kernels or recovery`s don`t wipe data.
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I wouldn`t mess with the kernel settings like UV/OC besides color and sound optimisations. The stock settings are allready good enough for most users, only xperienced users should do that imo.
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That's what I'll do then, what kind of sound optimizations are there? Just the mic volume and whatnot? Or are there some for playing music, I have poweramp and use that equalizer, so just wondering.
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wardawgmalvicious said:
That's what I'll do then, what kind of sound optimizations are there? Just the mic volume and whatnot? Or are there some for playing music, I have poweramp and use that equalizer, so just wondering.
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You can only raise the volume levels (no EQ settings), this should not interfere with PowerAmp.
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You can only raise the volume levels (no EQ settings), this should not interfere with PowerAmp.
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Alright guess I'll just have to carefully play around with a bit. Thanks for your help!
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You can only raise the volume levels (no EQ settings), this should not interfere with PowerAmp.
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Oh last question, do you know of any stability issues with Franco Kernel? That is my number one concern, so just checking with you real quick before I go with it finally.
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Oh last question, do you know of any stability issues with Franco Kernel? That is my number one concern, so just checking with you real quick before I go with it finally.
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I haven`t had FC`s when i used the kernel, most issues of users we`re caused by undervolting too much.
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I haven`t had FC`s when i used the kernel, most issues of users we`re caused by undervolting too much.
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Alright sounds good! I'll let you know how it goes!
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Alright sounds good! I'll let you know how it goes!
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Oke, good luck and enjoy
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Oke, good luck and enjoy
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OK maybe a stupid question, should I use auto flash or flash via recovery?
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Wondering if any of the color apps (Faux/Franco) will work with a rooted ROM using stock kernel? Noticed that on the N4 that stock 4.4.4 is amazing (lost 4% in 12 hours!), compared to my N5 using elementalx at 28% over same period.
I just hate stock colors and hoped to still be able to change them?
yes, but you need a custom kernel that supports color change/gamma. with just stock, no. its code thats added to a kernel that gives you the feature, not rom related at all.
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yes, but you need a custom kernel that supports color change/gamma. with just stock, no. its code thats added to a kernel that gives you the feature, not rom related at all.
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Thanks. That's kinda what I thought.
I might just try going back to pure stock to see if the N5 can come close to the deep sleep of the N4 running 4.4.4 stock. Then decide if deeper colors are worth average battery life.
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Globespy said:
Thanks. That's kinda what I thought.
I might just try going back to pure stock to see if the N5 can come close to the deep sleep of the N4 running 4.4.4 stock. Then decide if deeper colors are worth average battery life.
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why would colors affect battery life? unless you are talking about the kernel that you were using in general. anyways, battery life most is dependent on how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much your data/phone signal quality. the kernel will play just a little when it comes to battery, unless the kernel itself is just plain bad, with bad code. deep sleep could be kernel related, but it could be related to the services you are running as well. google play services has an issue lately with constantly checking for your location. this constant checking constantly wakes your device. maybe this is the issue with your non deep sleep? i know i had it, until i disabled certain services.
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why would colors affect battery life? unless you are talking about the kernel that you were using in general. anyways, battery life most is dependent on how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much your data/phone signal quality. the kernel will play just a little when it comes to battery, unless the kernel itself is just plain bad, with bad code. deep sleep could be kernel related, but it could be related to the services you are running as well. google play services has an issue lately with constantly checking for your location. this constant checking constantly wakes your device. maybe this is the issue with your non deep sleep? i know i had it, until i disabled certain services.
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Colors wouldn't change battery life, I was wondering if the stock kernel could use the color apps.
But to your point, it must be something in the ROM (KangaKat) or one of the apps I'm using rather than the kernel. I think it must be an app although I can't tech l track it down as it's just a bunch of system processes that are eating the juice and nothing pointing to an app in particular. Thanks though.
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Has anybody tried the new firmware update?
http://www.android.gs/ota-released-galaxy-s6-edge-nordic-countries-israel-volte-vowifi/
Firmware here :
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/61178/G920FXXU3QOKD_G920FNEE3QOKD_NEE/
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I'm currently downloading it, but (as usual) the speed is horrendous. If anybody has a a link with proper speeds (mega, google drive etc) would be highly appreciated.
Installed, but no VoLTE on Telia. Device not rooted.
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I'm currently downloading it, but (as usual) the speed is horrendous. If anybody has a a link with proper speeds (mega, google drive etc) would be highly appreciated.
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Let us know how it performs.
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VoLTE will only work if your carrier supports it. Plus if your carrier supports it, the CSC has to match as well for the option to be there in the Phone settings.
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Let us know how it performs.
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I installed it. How it performs? Exactly the same as before. Nor better, nor worse.
Battery wise I cannot comment since the first thing I did was to root and install new kernel (the stock one in terms of battery is [email protected] af).
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I installed it. How it performs? Exactly the same as before. Nor better, nor worse.
Battery wise I cannot comment since the first thing I did was to root and install new kernel (the stock one in terms of battery is [email protected] af).
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How would you know the stock kernel is bad if you didn't give it a chance.
To be honest, the stock kernels are pretty good. My wife gets over 4 hours of SoT every day with about 20% to spare everyday on bone stock fw!
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How would you know the stock kernel is bad if you didn't give it a chance.
To be honest, the stock kernels are pretty good. My wife gets over 4 hours of SoT every day with about 20% to spare everyday on bone stock fw!
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Coming from the COI9 firmware, which had the worst battery life possible (when the phone was simply laying on the desk with 30 minutes of SoT I was at 40% battery. That is with power saving mode enabled FYI and no apps running in the background. Yes, hard resets were performed multiple times to try and fix the problem) I'm very skeptical about this firm's battery life. So I decided not to give it a chance
That sucks. my carrier supports wifi calling and volte and I don't have the choice to activate the settings. what a waste downloading this rom.
The other option we have is to use Kingroot to push development. While Kingroot doesnt work for our device, it will show the devs of Kingroot that our GS7 edge is in demand for an exploit. Let these devs know we want it bad. Run the app.
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Download the app here
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won't make any change anyway.
Nope, it's a waste of time and has been done dozens of times before with no results.
But why rain on his parade?
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why buy an expensive new phone that can't be rooted when i have a perfectly fine older version that is? there is little difference between 3yr old phone and today's version except I AM ROOTED. so that may be why vote total is low
Because 99%+ of customers don't care about rooting, and want the new phones for the new features - fingerprint scanner, faster cpu, more memory, high res screen, Samsung Pay, etc.
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why buy an expensive new phone that can't be rooted when i have a perfectly fine older version that is? there is little difference between 3yr old phone and today's version except I AM ROOTED. so that may be why vote total is low
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Little difference besides:
Screen resolution
Screen brightness
Screen clarity
Radio bands
LTE speed
Processor speed
RAM
Charging speed
Battery size
GPU performance
Build materials
MST technology (allows Samsung Pay, though obviously that's not important if you are all about rooting)
But yeah basically the same, you know they are rectangles with glass coveted screens and stuff inside them.
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why buy an expensive new phone that can't be rooted when i have a perfectly fine older version that is? there is little difference between 3yr old phone and today's version except I AM ROOTED. so that may be why vote total is low
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Huh? Does root give you a better camera sensor? Brighter and higher resolution screen? Faster processor? More RAM? More premium build? Faster LTE radio? More LTE band support? Faster WiFi? Better mobile payment solution?
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Huh? Does root give you a better camera sensor? Brighter and higher resolution screen? Faster processor? More RAM? More premium build? Faster LTE radio? More LTE band support? Faster WiFi? Better mobile payment solution?
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Root - no. Custom ROMs because of root that can improve and tweak stuff - yes.
Root isn't for everybody - doesn't sound like it matters for you, but for the tweaker, it's life.
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Root - no. Custom ROMs because of root that can improve and tweak stuff - yes.
Root isn't for everybody - doesn't sound like it matters for you, but for the tweaker, it's life.
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No, custom Roms can't do any of the stuff I mention. The most you can dk is tweak the kernel and overclock it a bit.
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No, custom Roms can't do any of the stuff I mention. The most you can dk is tweak the kernel and overclock it a bit.
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Would you call a custom rom that replaced a stock camera app with an improved one...an improvement? Removal of bloat, thus freeing up RAM? Flexibility of changing radio code if latest is not as quick, stable, or battery efficent? Just because something has the latest firmware, doesn't mean it did not make things worse from the update. Sometimes going backwards is going forward - depending on the update.
Yeah, kernel tweaks and overclocking will help, too, but without root, you are forced to upgrade whatever is given to you - good or bad.
Is it me or has the S7E community been more of we are ok w/o root than other cells or is this how it normally is in the beginning before root is achieved?
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Would you call a custom rom that replaced a stock camera app with an improved one...an improvement? Removal of bloat, thus freeing up RAM? Flexibility of changing radio code if latest is not as quick, stable, or battery efficent? Just because something has the latest firmware, doesn't mean it did not make things worse from the update. Sometimes going backwards is going forward - depending on the update.
Yeah, kernel tweaks and overclocking will help, too, but without root, you are forced to upgrade whatever is given to you - good or bad.
Is it me or has the S7E community been more of we are ok w/o root than other cells or is this how it normally is in the beginning before root is achieved?
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Stock cameras are top notch for most phones, and are significantly worse if loaded with an AOSP ROM. Any slight config tweaks are nothing compared to phones having larger sensors, wider apertures, and newer hardware. Removal of bloat helps, but that can be done even without root, and you aren't going to be gaining several gigs worth of extra usable RAM. Radio bands are all hardware defined, you can add new bands that the hardware didn't support in the first place.
People who buy Samsung products so so knowing root may not be possible, the fact is less and less people root their phones because there isn't as much if a need anymore, and companies are locking them down more.
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Stock cameras are top notch for most phones, and are significantly worse if loaded with an AOSP ROM. Any slight config tweaks are nothing compared to phones having larger sensors, wider apertures, and newer hardware. Removal of bloat helps, but that can be done even without root, and you aren't going to be gaining several gigs worth of extra usable RAM. Radio bands are all hardware defined, you can add new bands that the hardware didn't support in the first place.
People who buy Samsung products so so knowing root may not be possible, the fact is less and less people root their phones because there isn't as much if a need anymore, and companies are locking them down more.
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I can agree that for the S7E the camera can't get much better - I rarely even use mine, actually. The thing with radio code is one size does not fit all from what I have seen. So if you want the benefits of having the latest Verizon OTA's, but update and the radio is worse, you are stuck with it, unless a new one comes out that might address it. All I am saying is while root is not life and death for some, it is a very nice luxury.
Security updates are good for the first year or so, but eventually you will not have the most current. (ex stagefright updates on S4). At least you had the option of being current with updates if the maker or carrier chooses to discontinue updates.
Hardware seems to be, like you said, more updated and I will even agree with you saying less of a need to root their cells because of that, but that doesn't mean people would not use that option if root were available.
You guys should sword fight...
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Root is all about customization.
Proper ad blocking (none of this VPN stuff!)
Root explorer with anywhere R.W. access.
Statusbar customization, etc.
Oh, and Titanium Backup!!!
It's nice to have these features.
A custom kernel that would allow tweaking GPU performance so certain apps (games) that ran butter smooth on Snapdragon 600 devices, for example, would run acceptable on this device!
Camera was very good starting with the S6 Edge Plus due to having manual mode. 50 ISO looks amazing if you have the light. And if you don't and your subject is static and you can keep (the phone) still, increase the shutter time.
But with the S7E what pisses me off the most is the overly sensitive touch screen and ridiculous battery drain when the phone is sitting unused.
Fix those two and the device would actually be nice.
Root can come later. Sometimes too late. The VZ Note 4 was recently cracked. Of course mine was sold long ago. I have the TMO version used on AT&T with a custom rom, etc. The works. And that phone still runs very nice and is very usable today.