I am debating on whether to buy the pro version and flash Franco's Kernel for my Nexus 5 and 7 (2013). I just want to know what I bits of extra I can really do with it.. And if its worth it. I'm more worried about stability than anything I guess. I don't want to run into little issues whether it be audio, video, whatever it may be. Also I have never flashed a kernel or another ROM, I've always stuck with stock. I am running 4.4.2 right now utilizing Gravity Box and Wanam Kit, and a few other modules. Any input would be greatly appreciated. If this thread has been done before, my apologies. I am a brand new forum user, never really get on the computer.
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wardawgmalvicious said:
I am debating on whether to buy the pro version and flash Franco's Kernel for my Nexus 5 and 7 (2013). I just want to know what I bits of extra I can really do with it.. And if its worth it. I'm more worried about stability than anything I guess. I don't want to run into little issues whether it be audio, video, whatever it may be. Also I have never flashed a kernel or another ROM, I've always stuck with stock. I am running 4.4.2 right now utilizing Gravity Box and Wanam Kit, and a few other modules. Any input would be greatly appreciated. If this thread has been done before, my apologies. I am a brand new forum user, never really get on the computer.
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Well to be honest the stock kernel allready is very good, the only downsides of it are batterylife/screenontime and colors are not very vibrant. These 2 aspects are substantialy better with Franco kernel. Screenontime and batterylife is improved by at least 50% or more for some (check out the Franco thread). Also you can raise the speaker/mic/in-call volume as you wish and load a color profile for better and more vibrant colors.
if you want stability stick with stock
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Well to be honest the stock kernel allready is very good, the only downsides of it are batterylife/screenontime and colors are not very vibrant. These 2 issues are substantialy better with Franco kernel. Screenontime and batterylife is improved by at least 50% or more for some (check out the Franco thread). Also you can raise the speaker/mic/in-call volume as you wish and load a color profile for better and more vibrant colors.
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I have been getting fantastic battery life with my setup now, I just leave brightness at auto, and from my bit of research, that seems to be the big culprit of battery life. I'm always looking to improve my phone in terms of performance and cosmetic, keeps me busy at negative 60 out here in North Dakota lol.
But 50% overall more battery life?! That's pretty friggin good. Would definitely pay for it for that kind of power.
I'm also assuming based on your post that the color control is not for LED control but the screen itself. Any idea if the Xposed LED module works well? I know its off topic just a quick question.
Not sure about the volumes, I usually don't mess with call volumes, but I'll look into it more.
Thanks for your post! Also please post the link to the Franco Thread.
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wardawgmalvicious said:
I have been getting fantastic battery life with my setup now, I just leave brightness at auto, and from my bit of research, that seems to be the big culprit of battery life. I'm always looking to improve my phone in terms of performance and cosmetic, keeps me busy at negative 60 out here in North Dakota lol.
But 50% overall more battery life?! That's pretty friggin good. Would definitely pay for it for that kind of power.
I'm also assuming based on your post that the color control is not for LED control but the screen itself. Any idea if the Xposed LED module works well? I know its off topic just a quick question.
Not sure about the volumes, I usually don't mess with call volumes, but I'll look into it more.
Thanks for your post! Also please post the link to the Franco Thread.
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If you are having trouble making a decision... just flash the kernel with fastboot and give it a test run. Can the free version of FKU auto flash? I'm not sure, you would have to investigate.
If you decide you like it (and the updates that go along with it), then maybe consider buying the app.
But yes, screen on time is better with FK due to the way the clock speeds scale. A lot better. Even with the stock settings, though I find even those to be a bit aggressive.
wardawgmalvicious said:
I have been getting fantastic battery life with my setup now, I just leave brightness at auto, and from my bit of research, that seems to be the big culprit of battery life. I'm always looking to improve my phone in terms of performance and cosmetic, keeps me busy at negative 60 out here in North Dakota lol.
But 50% overall more battery life?! That's pretty friggin good. Would definitely pay for it for that kind of power.
I'm also assuming based on your post that the color control is not for LED control but the screen itself. Any idea if the Xposed LED module works well? I know its off topic just a quick question.
Not sure about the volumes, I usually don't mess with call volumes, but I'll look into it more.
Thanks for your post! Also please post the link to the Franco Thread.
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Most users report a screenontime of about 5-7 hours while stock is about 3,5 hours. Don`t know about the Xposed module but color controll in the Franco kernel updater app is realy good and there are various preloaded settings available. Link thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284. Backup your current kernel in the FKU before you flash a Franco kernel, so you can restore it if need be.
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If you are having trouble making a decision... just flash the kernel with fastboot and give it a test run. Can the free version of FKU auto flash? I'm not sure, you would have to investigate.
If you decide you like it (and the updates that go along with it), then maybe consider buying the app.
But yes, screen on time is better with FK due to the way the clock speeds scale. A lot better. Even with the stock settings, though I find even those to be a bit aggressive.
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I believe you can, I'll look into when I get home.
So do you underclock or undervolt? I don't know the differences between the two, my apologies. If I do get Franco I think I will just leave it at the stock settings it comes with before I make any changes, still got learning to do. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
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Most users report a screenontime of about 5-7 hours while stock is about 3,5 hours. Don`t know about the Xposed module but color controll in the Franco kernel updater app is realy good and there are various preloaded settings available. Link thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284. Backup your current kernel in the FKU before you flash a Franco kernel, so you can restore it if need be.
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That's pretty awesome, definitely gonna try it out. I have a backup somewhere on my device, I think in Flashify, but I'll make another, can never hurt lol.
And thanks for the thread and all the other info!
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Stick with stock for at least long enough to give yourself a baseline to judge other ROMs/kernels against.
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Stick with stock for at least long enough to give yourself a baseline to judge other ROMs/kernels against.
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I've had my Nexus 5 for roughly 2 months now I think, are you saying I should wait it out or do more research first? It is very scary for me lol. I'm always afraid to be making major internal changes without some form of consultation and research.
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Also quick question, I don't need to back anything else up correct? Flashing a kernel does not mess with anything else does it?
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I've had my Nexus 5 for roughly 2 months now I think, are you saying I should wait it out or do more research first? It is very scary for me lol. I'm always afraid to be making major internal changes without some form of consultation and research.
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I wouldn`t mess with the kernel settings like UV/OC besides color and sound optimisations. The stock settings are allready good enough for most users, only xperienced users should do that imo.
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Also quick question, I don't need to back anything else up correct? Flashing a kernel does not mess with anything else does it?
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No, flashing kernels or recovery`s don`t wipe data.
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I wouldn`t mess with the kernel settings like UV/OC besides color and sound optimisations. The stock settings are allready good enough for most users, only xperienced users should do that imo.
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That's what I'll do then, what kind of sound optimizations are there? Just the mic volume and whatnot? Or are there some for playing music, I have poweramp and use that equalizer, so just wondering.
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That's what I'll do then, what kind of sound optimizations are there? Just the mic volume and whatnot? Or are there some for playing music, I have poweramp and use that equalizer, so just wondering.
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You can only raise the volume levels (no EQ settings), this should not interfere with PowerAmp.
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You can only raise the volume levels (no EQ settings), this should not interfere with PowerAmp.
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Alright guess I'll just have to carefully play around with a bit. Thanks for your help!
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You can only raise the volume levels (no EQ settings), this should not interfere with PowerAmp.
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Oh last question, do you know of any stability issues with Franco Kernel? That is my number one concern, so just checking with you real quick before I go with it finally.
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Oh last question, do you know of any stability issues with Franco Kernel? That is my number one concern, so just checking with you real quick before I go with it finally.
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I haven`t had FC`s when i used the kernel, most issues of users we`re caused by undervolting too much.
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I haven`t had FC`s when i used the kernel, most issues of users we`re caused by undervolting too much.
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Alright sounds good! I'll let you know how it goes!
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Alright sounds good! I'll let you know how it goes!
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Oke, good luck and enjoy
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Oke, good luck and enjoy
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OK maybe a stupid question, should I use auto flash or flash via recovery?
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Wow is it just me or the samsung epic forum has more roms than we do here this forums is dead
cal4877 said:
Wow is it just me or the samsung epic forum has more roms than we do here this forums is dead
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A community is not measured by the quantity of ROMs available. What are you looking for that you are not finding?
Something fast stable and sexy it seems that all roms here have the stock look
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Something fast stable and sexy it seems that all roms here have the stock look
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go with miui its fast stable and sexy just what u asked for
I think the main reason these forums seem dead to you is because on the Nexus line you're already receiving the latest and greatest.
Most ROM's for other devices either
Try to emulate the stock Google experience by removing the manufacturer's UI
Remove carrier bloatware
Provide a newer version of Android that the manufacturer doesn't.
Enable features left out by the manufacturer or the request of the carrier
None of those issues apply to the Nexus line, which is why you see a lot less ROM's however what we lack in quantity is most likely made up in quality!
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I think the main reason these forums seem dead to you is because on the Nexus line you're already receiving the latest and greatest.
Most ROM's for other devices either
Try to emulate the stock Google experience by removing the manufacturer's UI
Remove carrier bloatware
Provide a newer version of Android that the manufacturer doesn't.
Enable features left out by the manufacturer or the request of the carrier
None of those issues apply to the Nexus line, which is why you see a lot less ROM's however what we lack in quantity is most likely made up in quality!
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Could not have said it any better! +1
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Well said my man well said!!
there are several kernels that add functionality to the stock roms. BLN and VOODOO are two things that make this phone really shine.
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there are several kernels that add functionality to the stock roms. BLN and VOODOO are two things that make this phone really shine.
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Ok so im new to the nexus line and to this phone, upgaded yesterday. anyway, could u tell me what those are? what is BLN? what is VOODOO? whats the current best kernel(keep hearing about matrix)(please atleast same or better performance as stock and same or better battery life), what does CM add above the stock nexus?
Thanks for your answers, sorry i couldnt hold my mouth shut anymore
~ Ramy
Master Ramy said:
Ok so im new to the nexus line and to this phone, upgaded yesterday. anyway, could u tell me what those are? what is BLN? what is VOODOO? whats the current best kernel(keep hearing about matrix)(please atleast same or better performance as stock and same or better battery life), what does CM add above the stock nexus?
Thanks for your answers, sorry i couldnt hold my mouth shut anymore
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Trinity is my favorite kernel, you can find it in the nexus a section.
Bln=bottom light notification.
Voodoo= sound drivers and screen color. You need
the voodoo control app to change those.
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Voodoo has to do with sound for your headphones. Basically lets you change the music settings to sound better with higher end headphones.
BLN backlight notification. Since the ns4g comes with no led, bln uses the 4 keys on the face of the phone. Say when you get a text the screen stays off and the keys light up. Also we use bln from the market to make them blink and set how long they stay on for.
BLD backlight dimmer. Say your watching a movie, without bld those same 4 keys as above stay on as long as your screen is on. With bld they turn off after 30 seconds or what you set it at. This works as long as you don't use those 4 keys, of you touch one the time starts over.
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Matr1x kernel I think has better battery life. Performence is awesome also. I get atleast 12hrs with about 4hrs of screen on time and heavy use. Plus matr1x has a great dev with awesome support.
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Ok excellent, so u guys answered my definition questions, now my question is concerning 2 things: 1. Kernel: i need a kernel that has atleast the same or better batterylife, and atleast the same or better performance. it is my understanding that matrix is undervolted and overclocked, and so might be just the thing for me, being better on battery and better on performance, unless those negate eachother...what do u think?, 2. Cyanogenmod. what does cyanogen bring to the table/add vs stock rom? as in why would i put on a custom rom rather than stock? would love to hear views.
Matr1x has just as good or better battery and better performance than stock cause of the options it has.
I think one of the main reasons why people use custom roms on the ns4g is for custoization. Like cm7 and decks both have more themability and options. As miui is a completly different look feel just everything. Think iphone when you think of miui.
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Hi guys!
I was looking for ways to increase battery life.
As far as I know you can undervolt and decrese CPU speed
Undervolt does not affect performance but does increase temperature right?
Decrease CPU speed obviously decreases the speed of the phone.
Both these things can be achieved by using a custom kernel right? I heard of franco kernel as being the best for these things...
Any other ways of increasing battery life?
Cheers!
nad4321 said:
Hi guys!
I was looking for ways to increase battery life.
As far as I know you can undervolt and decrese CPU speed
Undervolt does not affect performance but does increase temperature right?
Decrease CPU speed obviously decreases the speed of the phone.
Both these things can be achieved by using a custom kernel right? I heard of franco kernel as being the best for these things...
Any other ways of increasing battery life?
Cheers!
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Why not try Franco first before starting to tweak. The kernel's default settings are reputedly optimal for that elusive balance between performance and battery life.
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Why not try Franco first before starting to tweak. The kernel's default settings are reputedly optimal for that elusive balance between performance and battery life.
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yeah well im using stock now so it was just a matter wether changing to franco would make a difference
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yeah well im using stock now so it was just a matter wether changing to franco would make a difference
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Yeah, give it a try. Since I installed it, the phone (and my N7, too) has become snappier, and battery life on standby is awesome (like 1-2%/hr). SOT, on the other hand, is still lamentable, even at dim levels. If you do go Franco, I recommend getting the FK updater app on the Play Store.
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PhilipTD said:
Yeah, give it a try. Since I installed it, the phone (and my N7, too) has become snappier, and battery life on standby is awesome (like 1-2%/hr). SOT, on the other hand, is still lamentable, even at dim levels. If you do go Franco, I recommend getting the FK updater app on the Play Store.
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Cheers! Do you know any good tutorial to unlock bootloader, root and instal custom recovery + kernel? Long process hahaha
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Cheers! Do you know any good tutorial to unlock bootloader, root and instal custom recovery + kernel? Long process hahaha
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There's a tutorial on this in the forum. I'd link it to you but I am on my tablet at the moment.
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nad4321 said:
Cheers! Do you know any good tutorial to unlock bootloader, root and instal custom recovery + kernel? Long process hahaha
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284
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Thanks again From your own experience what would you recommend TWRP or CWM
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Thanks again From your own experience what would you recommend TWRP or CWM
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TWRP, without a doubt. It's completely stable, and easy to use. CWM used to be really wonky; that's why I switched.
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TWRP, without a doubt. It's completely stable, and easy to use. CWM used to be really wonky; that's why I switched.
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I guess all of these CPU speeds and undervolt can be changed at any time withouth erasing anythign right?
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Thanks again From your own experience what would you recommend TWRP or CWM
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Philz touch. Its cwm based, more features than twrp and cwm put together and more stable than both too.
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I guess all of these CPU speeds and undervolt can be changed at any time withouth erasing anythign right?
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You can set up virtually any configuration with Franco. But, again, I suggest you try his default settings first. He put a lot into figuring it out, and his findings likely are the most reliable. I've never felt the need to customize the kernel any differently.
Some people, however, really like to mess around with the settings as a kind of hobby. I used to do so, and it's a lot of fun (and headaches). So, if you want to get into it, go for it. There are numerous apps you can use to tweak all those settings.
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Philz touch. Its cwm based, more features than twrp and cwm put together and more stable than both too...
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I know, I've been meaning to check out out. Thanks
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You can set up virtually any configuration with Franco. But, again, I suggest you try his default settings first. He put a lot into figuring it out, and his findings likely are the most reliable. I've never felt the need to customize the kernel any differently.
Some people, however, really like to mess around with the settings as a kind of hobby. I used to do so, and it's a lot of fun (and headaches). So, if you want to get into it, go for it. There are numerous apps you can use to tweak all those settings.
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I know, I've been meaning to check out out. Thanks
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I noticed that by default it has 2 cores working and then uses the other 2 when required... This might sound stupid but did stock already do this?
Try greenify and xposed framework.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify‎
Im running the catalysm rom + franco kernel undervolted (which by the way decreases the temperature) and under clocked to 1728mhz. I also am using greenify + xposed. Finally I turn off location reporting, touch sounds, always scanning wifi and set location to "battery saving" mode. Without any gaming I get around 5hr of screen on time. Straight gaming gives me around 2.5hr of SOT. Usually I get around 4hr from my regular day. Any other tips for battery?
I just purchased a new Nexus 5 coming from a Note 3 (jellybeans ROM)
On that rom I had some xposed modules setup.
Is it accurate that Gravity Box is designed for AOSP based roms and I should stick to that that module? Or can I use any of them without an issue?
Thanks!
FormeriPhoney said:
I just purchased a new Nexus 5 coming from a Note 3 (jellybeans ROM)
On that rom I had some xposed modules setup.
Is it accurate that Gravity Box is designed for AOSP based roms and I should stick to that that module? Or can I use any of them without an issue?
Thanks!
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Yes u can use gravity box with the N5. Just use the kitkat version
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Yes u can use gravity box with the N5. Just use the kitkat version
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Thanks. With the amount of customization given now with the modules, I'm debating on either rooting and unlocking, flashing Francos kernel and just using the modules... Or, flashing a rom like Slim kat.
Any recommendations? There are so many aosp roms to choose from with a Nexus device. It was so easy on a locked down VZW note 3. Only 2 or 3 roms and no kernels. [emoji1]
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Thanks. With the amount of customization given now with the modules, I'm debating on either rooting and unlocking, flashing Francos kernel and just using the modules... Or, flashing a rom like Slim kat.
Any recommendations? There are so many aosp roms to choose from with a Nexus device. It was so easy on a locked down VZW note 3. Only 2 or 3 roms and no kernels. [emoji1]
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You should root then install xposed along with the GB module with stock Google rom. Use it for a few days see what you think. I'd put $ on you liking that combination "as is".
As for roms I'd suggest you do research. If this turns into a rom suggestion thread then it will be locked asap.
Of course this is all of my own opinion GL!
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You should root then install xposed along with the GB module with stock Google rom. Use it for a few days see what you think. I'd put $ on you liking that combination "as is".
As for roms I'd suggest you do research. If this turns into a rom suggestion thread then it will be locked asap.
Of course this is all of my own opinion GL!
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Ha! Yea, I don't want to start another "best rom" thread. I don't think xda could handle another one of those.
I'm definitely going to root and unlock and try stock for a week or so with some module settings.
My biggest concern is battery life.
Slimkat is a beast !
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Ha! Yea, I don't want to start another "best rom" thread. I don't think xda could handle another one of those.
I'm definitely going to root and unlock and try stock for a week or so with some module settings.
My biggest concern is battery life.
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Battery life (for me) equals the moto X and surpasses the GS4. It's so individual ya know! I get 4.5 to 5 hours screen on time in about a 18-22 hour period per charge on wifi and 3.5 to 4 hours screen on time in about a 14-18 hour period on 4g/3g/LTE. Hope that helps
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+1 for stock + GB...you'll find many others who agree. I've tried a few of the top roms but I've yet to find one with as many customizations as GB. I find I get better battery life with Franco kernel too, specifically r20 (ymmv).
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+1 for stock + GB...you'll find many others who agree. I've tried a few of the top roms but I've yet to find one with as many customizations as GB. I find I get better battery life with Franco kernel too, specifically r20 (ymmv).
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I'm definitely flashing Francos Kernel but I'm still deciding on which one. I'm seeing a few bug complaints on R35 and R37...so that's still up for debate.
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I'm definitely flashing Francos Kernel but I'm still deciding on which one. I'm seeing a few bug complaints on R35 and R37...so that's still up for debate.
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I flashed r32 around the time it was released and my battery life was noticeably worse than on r20, so I flashed back and have been happy ever since so haven't had the urge to update again. It does seem to vary per device though, so might be worth testing each for a few days.
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Hey all, i was hopin someone would be interested in helping me port over this kernel, its from the N7 2013(flo)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449919
He says it should be compatible as is or with little modifications. Thing is, i dont know where to start. Anybody interested?
EDIT: Theres a nice little network fix (PAGE 4) for anyone that has issues. I was told it could help people with network issues on T-Mobile. I haven't tested this but simms22 has.
Please read page 4 (post #33)
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Hey all, i was hopin someone would be interested in helping me port over this kernel, its from the N7 2013(flo)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449919
He says it should be compatible as is or with little modifications. Thing is, i dont know where to start. Anybody interested?
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you can't "port" a kernel. but you can build a kernel from n5 source based on that kernel source.
if you don't know how to build a kernel, and not just building a ready made kernel, then you have quite a bit of reading and getting educated(educating yourself even) first.
Well i guess i was hopin someone a little more educated than myself could help me through it.
I do wish you much luck though, as I'm the wrong person for help
First you learn to compile AOSP kernel for N5
then you learn how to cherry pick commits
Then you cherrypick the commits from that kernel
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First you learn to compile AOSP kernel for N5
then you learn how to cherry pick commits
Then you cherrypick the commits from that kernel
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it'll involve quite a bit more than cherry picks, as the kernel, and all the numbers involved in the kernel, are for a nexus 7. the far majority of things would need to be changed/adjusted for a nexus 5.
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it'll involve quite a bit more than cherry picks, as the kernel, and all the numbers involved in the kernel, are for a nexus 7. the far majority of things would need to be changed/adjusted for a nexus 5.
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Its a mammoth task. Not for the faint of heart.
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I see, well anyone up for the job?
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Its a mammoth task. Not for the faint of heart.
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that's what I was getting to in my first post, but was trying to be easy on the op as possible
we have more ROM builders than kernel builders for a reason, because its much more involved. while it is very possible to build this kernel for the n5, it would be extremely difficult and time consuming(changing numbers and testing) for someone who has never built a basic kernel.
maybe he can talk the original dev into building a n5 variant. or talk a n5 kernel dev into it
I understand. The the original dev has been having some health issues and just got back to deving again, i really didnt want to bug him when hes already working on his own stuff,. But i assumed it wouldnt be too hard because he said it shouldnt take much modification. It would be nice if someone could do this, it is a very nice kernel. I get 7 hrs screen time with it and performance is amazing. I just thought it would be half way there considering the devices are similar
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I understand. The the original dev has been having some health issues and just got back to deving again, i really didnt want to bug him when hes already working on his own stuff,. But i assumed it wouldnt be too hard because he said it shouldnt take much modification. It would be nice if someone could do this, it is a very nice kernel. I get 7 hrs screen time with it and performance is amazing. I just thought it would be half way there considering the devices are similar
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7 hours screen on time, it's a tablet ._. Kernel hardly affects battery life in any overly major way.
Err they're not even slightly similar devices.
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Lethargy said:
7 hours screen on time, it's a tablet ._. Kernel hardly affects battery life in any overly major way.
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I beg to differ, it most definitely does. But anyways, thanks for all the help guys[emoji57]
Andromendous said:
I understand. The the original dev has been having some health issues and just got back to deving again, i really didnt want to bug him when hes already working on his own stuff,. But i assumed it wouldnt be too hard because he said it shouldnt take much modification. It would be nice if someone could do this, it is a very nice kernel. I get 7 hrs screen time with it and performance is amazing. I just thought it would be half way there considering the devices are similar
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its a different device, period. you can not compare the two. on the n7, its very easy to get 7+ hours sot. on the nexus 5, you have to turn everything all the way down and not really use your device, except keeping the screen on for long periods. just because a kernel does well on one device, still doesn't give it a good chance on another. the best kernel for any device will be made specifically for that device. every device is completely different, has different hardware, has differently tweaked CPU(if the same CPU), has different powering and voltage needs, etc.. what can be used are the tweaks/mods he's using. but the chances are if its usable on a n5, its probably being used already.
Andromendous said:
I beg to differ, it most definitely does. But anyways, thanks for all the help guys[emoji57]
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Nexus 5 has a 2300mAh battery and a Snapdragon 800 at 2265MHz.
Nexus 7 (2013) flo has a 3950mAh battery and a Snapdragon S4Pro quad-core 1.5GHz processor plus doesn't have a phone radio as it's Wi-Fi only.
If you're comparing battery life between the Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 you really need to do some more research.
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I beg to differ, it most definitely does. But anyways, thanks for all the help guys[emoji57]
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na, its just junk you keep hearing repeated over and over. battery life mostly depends on how you use your device, how you personally set it up, what apps you use, and the quality data(or phone) signal you get. kernel might make a slight difference, but its not really much. changing how bright you keep your screen could make a bigger difference.
For one, i didnt say i thought id get those 7hrs on my n5 im not that stupid, you are just assuming that. all i was saying is thats pretty good even for that device. I understand their different but its not like im asking to build it for the galaxy s5, THAT would be way different, get my drift?
Screen and radio are the biggest 2 drains... Keeping the CPU ramped up can do a lot too and although that is controlled by the kernel, the settings in the governor can change how the kernel controls the CPU.
Many people assume that kernel x is better on battery and kernel y is better in performance but really the difference is that dev x and dev y set their default settings for the governor in bias to battery and performance respectively.. May user can make kernel x bias toward performance and kernel y bias towards battery, the opposite to original config.
Sure some optimisations outside of this will halve small impacts over stock but devs share a lot so they're usually available across the board.
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Andromendous said:
For one, i didnt say i thought id get those 7hrs on my n5 im not that stupid, you are just assuming that. all i was saying is thats pretty good even for that device. I understand their different but its not like im asking to build it for the galaxy s5, THAT would be way different, get my drift?
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I did assume that's what you meant, sounded like it though. sorry
But i understand what your getting at, different voltages clock speeds, all i was looking for was some advice. The attitude you guys are taking about it and the attitude the dev of the kernel took about it is like the difference between two politicians at voting time, two completely different views. Now i understand he doesnt use this device but he understands what it takes to do it, now i dunno where you guys stand when it comes to the knowledge it takes to do something like this but all i was looking for was some advice, not a OMG you know nothing battle
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Thanks for the replies guys. What ROM would you recommend for GB-like customization options, stability, and good battery life?
karabasdutapis said:
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
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Yep, SlimKat, If stock Slim is missing a feature, about 50 people in that thread build their own Slim with some mods. One guy builds a version that has a DL/UL speed indication, L-style navbar buttons, and a bunch of other things.
Kernel, use Code_Blue. I prefer it over Franco. Just don't use the stock Slim kernel.
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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rootSU said:
Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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Thats why we have slim rom
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Thats why we have slim rom
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Indeed. Even then I still add xposed though.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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The only way a ROM can really affect battery is if a feature is designed poorly or there's a derp in the build..
But yeah, you can't really improve "ROM battery life", you can only make sure there aren't any problems which affect it negatively.
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Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
Lethargy said:
Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Might not be noticeable, or it might be obvious, it's still always going to slow it down overall. Different experience between different people.
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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I've used every Rom and kernel almost and after setting each up how I regularly do, and with similar usage patterns always....my battery times were always similar.
I never play with the clock speeds I should add......but that's my experience. The roms or kernels I used made no real difference to my battery life.
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Yes I've seen lots of "claims"....And guess what, many believe them. ?