Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Thanks for the replies guys. What ROM would you recommend for GB-like customization options, stability, and good battery life?
karabasdutapis said:
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
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Yep, SlimKat, If stock Slim is missing a feature, about 50 people in that thread build their own Slim with some mods. One guy builds a version that has a DL/UL speed indication, L-style navbar buttons, and a bunch of other things.
Kernel, use Code_Blue. I prefer it over Franco. Just don't use the stock Slim kernel.
rahulpat13 said:
Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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rootSU said:
Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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Thats why we have slim rom
doctor_droid said:
Thats why we have slim rom
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Indeed. Even then I still add xposed though.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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The only way a ROM can really affect battery is if a feature is designed poorly or there's a derp in the build..
But yeah, you can't really improve "ROM battery life", you can only make sure there aren't any problems which affect it negatively.
rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
BirchBarlow said:
Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
Lethargy said:
Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Might not be noticeable, or it might be obvious, it's still always going to slow it down overall. Different experience between different people.
karabasdutapis said:
So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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I've used every Rom and kernel almost and after setting each up how I regularly do, and with similar usage patterns always....my battery times were always similar.
I never play with the clock speeds I should add......but that's my experience. The roms or kernels I used made no real difference to my battery life.
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Yes I've seen lots of "claims"....And guess what, many believe them. ?
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Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
zepretender said:
Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
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ART worked flawlessly (no issues) for me and noticeably increased battery life but incompatibility with xposed is a deal breaker.
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zepretender said:
Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
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Hello, I have been using ART since a week now and I have never had any major issues.
Some issues I had were:
Apps gets closed when you open them (just retry)
GUI bugs with Any.Do
alb3rtt said:
ART worked flawlessly (no issues) for me and noticeably increased battery life but incompatibility with xposed is a deal breaker.
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I've heared a lot about Xposed. What's this ? I can't find clear infos where I can install it...
zepretender said:
I've heared a lot about Xposed. What's this ? I can't find clear infos where I can install it...
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Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
And read the op and then try installing gravity box through the download button in xposed box, you will love it for sure
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battery life is determined by your personal usage, your person setup, your personal method of app management, and most importantly battery life is determined by the quality of your personal data/phone signal. everything else, including undervolting, only provides negligible results. thats why no matter what rom you are running, no matter what kernel you are running, no matter if you are using dalvik or ART, there are people that will say that it gives them great battery life while others say it doesnt give them great battery life.
So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
battery is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and mostly the quality of your phone/data signal. using either cm kernel or franco kernel can give you great battery life or terrible battery life. any kernel will give you great battery life or terrible battery life.
Longi94 said:
So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
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Both are good and have their (dis)advantages. No one can tell you whats best cause different users have different preferences and needs. Best is to try them out yourself and see what you like best.
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
Longi94 said:
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
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im one of the heaviest users you will meet, yet i still see a minimum of 5h+ screen on time every day. set up your device right, and if you have a great signal you will have very hood battery life no matter what you use.
Combine rooted stock, Franco kernel and the Xposed framework plus it's various modules and you will get most of the Custom ROM features along with better battery life and stability. I'm very pleased with that combo.
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I just purchased a new Nexus 5 coming from a Note 3 (jellybeans ROM)
On that rom I had some xposed modules setup.
Is it accurate that Gravity Box is designed for AOSP based roms and I should stick to that that module? Or can I use any of them without an issue?
Thanks!
FormeriPhoney said:
I just purchased a new Nexus 5 coming from a Note 3 (jellybeans ROM)
On that rom I had some xposed modules setup.
Is it accurate that Gravity Box is designed for AOSP based roms and I should stick to that that module? Or can I use any of them without an issue?
Thanks!
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Yes u can use gravity box with the N5. Just use the kitkat version
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Yes u can use gravity box with the N5. Just use the kitkat version
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Thanks. With the amount of customization given now with the modules, I'm debating on either rooting and unlocking, flashing Francos kernel and just using the modules... Or, flashing a rom like Slim kat.
Any recommendations? There are so many aosp roms to choose from with a Nexus device. It was so easy on a locked down VZW note 3. Only 2 or 3 roms and no kernels. [emoji1]
FormeriPhoney said:
Thanks. With the amount of customization given now with the modules, I'm debating on either rooting and unlocking, flashing Francos kernel and just using the modules... Or, flashing a rom like Slim kat.
Any recommendations? There are so many aosp roms to choose from with a Nexus device. It was so easy on a locked down VZW note 3. Only 2 or 3 roms and no kernels. [emoji1]
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You should root then install xposed along with the GB module with stock Google rom. Use it for a few days see what you think. I'd put $ on you liking that combination "as is".
As for roms I'd suggest you do research. If this turns into a rom suggestion thread then it will be locked asap.
Of course this is all of my own opinion GL!
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jbdan said:
You should root then install xposed along with the GB module with stock Google rom. Use it for a few days see what you think. I'd put $ on you liking that combination "as is".
As for roms I'd suggest you do research. If this turns into a rom suggestion thread then it will be locked asap.
Of course this is all of my own opinion GL!
Nexus5
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Ha! Yea, I don't want to start another "best rom" thread. I don't think xda could handle another one of those.
I'm definitely going to root and unlock and try stock for a week or so with some module settings.
My biggest concern is battery life.
Slimkat is a beast !
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FormeriPhoney said:
Ha! Yea, I don't want to start another "best rom" thread. I don't think xda could handle another one of those.
I'm definitely going to root and unlock and try stock for a week or so with some module settings.
My biggest concern is battery life.
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Battery life (for me) equals the moto X and surpasses the GS4. It's so individual ya know! I get 4.5 to 5 hours screen on time in about a 18-22 hour period per charge on wifi and 3.5 to 4 hours screen on time in about a 14-18 hour period on 4g/3g/LTE. Hope that helps
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+1 for stock + GB...you'll find many others who agree. I've tried a few of the top roms but I've yet to find one with as many customizations as GB. I find I get better battery life with Franco kernel too, specifically r20 (ymmv).
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premo15 said:
+1 for stock + GB...you'll find many others who agree. I've tried a few of the top roms but I've yet to find one with as many customizations as GB. I find I get better battery life with Franco kernel too, specifically r20 (ymmv).
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I'm definitely flashing Francos Kernel but I'm still deciding on which one. I'm seeing a few bug complaints on R35 and R37...so that's still up for debate.
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I'm definitely flashing Francos Kernel but I'm still deciding on which one. I'm seeing a few bug complaints on R35 and R37...so that's still up for debate.
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I flashed r32 around the time it was released and my battery life was noticeably worse than on r20, so I flashed back and have been happy ever since so haven't had the urge to update again. It does seem to vary per device though, so might be worth testing each for a few days.
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I know the n5 on cm11 is very fast, but I just wanted to know is there any little tweaks to make the rom even better / faster?
dhalham said:
I know the n5 on cm11 is very fast, but I just wanted to know is there any little tweaks to make the rom even better / faster?
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Tring another custom rom can improve the user experience for instance
Some ROMs have a mod to improve the scrolling cache. You can also add some tweaks / features through Xposed, flash a custom kernel and so on... A lot of things to try actually ^^
Hmm better anything to improve performance or smoothness?
a different rom and kernel than cm. i wouldnt ever call cm fast or on top in performance. cm is more bloated then anything else. but if all youre looking for is mods, then cm is good.
Reduce animations, f2fs.
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Already have , I was just wondering how to get of the very little lags that come now and then
dhalham said:
Already have , I was just wondering how to get of the very little lags that come now and then
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go away from cm
Why? Is other roms drastically faster?
AOSP!
If they are much better, can you tell me why? Also, would you recommend me any rom
dhalham said:
If they are much better, can you tell me why? Also, would you recommend me any rom
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It's a nexus device. Just use stock. It's a good as it gets.
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jd1639 said:
It's a nexus device. Just use stock. It's a good as it gets.
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Not true. Google's ROM is optimized for certain uses, mainly just general use. Different custom ROMs are developed for different types of uses.
One reason there are no best ROM threads allowed. Different users prefer different ROMs because they use their phones in different ways. It is also part of the fun of experimenting. You can see how different ROMs react to your personal usage and most people usually settle with the one that fits them best, except flashaholics. Had my phone less than a month, went through about five ROMs, 4 custom and stock. Finally settled on slimkat as I like the features.
This also holds true for kernels.
If you want a rom that's basically stock with a few improvements in key areas with great performance and batt life, I suggest going Purity Rom + Code Blue. The kernel is optional as it also works well with Franco
I havn't been an Android user since the days of the Galaxy 1 and 2.
Back then, flashing to a clean rom was a must. You would get much better performance, battery life, and so on.
With the One, I am being tempted but not sure what's the point?! Does any of the roms out there bring significant improvements?
Thanks!
For me batterylife with cm 12s or cm 12.1 was bad but with exodus it became pretty good(until this f****ing android system idle drain... at first I got with my normal use about 6h sot and now only 3h), also there are much more features available.
Thats like asking why do you wear black underwear instead of colored.. Its just down to personal preference and what I like wearing
Thanks for that. So that's my point - usually we are talking about VISUAL differences?
benyben123 said:
Thanks for that. So that's my point - usually we are talking about VISUAL differences?
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Not necessarily just visual, a lot of ROMs have their own unique features, tweaks, under the hood stuff, optimisations.
Thanks again. Can you give me an example of a single optimization?
benyben123 said:
Thanks again. Can you give me an example of a single optimization?
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Take SlimSaber for example, its uses the Sabermod tool chain. There are also roms built using the linaro tool chain. The benefits can be increased performance/smoothness/fluidity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-slimsaber-bacon-t2858033
Tool chains
http://www.xda-developers.com/custom-toolchain-roms-kernels/
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Thanks again. Can you give me an example of a single optimization?
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Just look at the various ROM threads for yourself. They list their features and optimisations in the OP usually so it's very easy to see how each custom ROM differs from the stock ROM.