So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
battery is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and mostly the quality of your phone/data signal. using either cm kernel or franco kernel can give you great battery life or terrible battery life. any kernel will give you great battery life or terrible battery life.
Longi94 said:
So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
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Both are good and have their (dis)advantages. No one can tell you whats best cause different users have different preferences and needs. Best is to try them out yourself and see what you like best.
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
Longi94 said:
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
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im one of the heaviest users you will meet, yet i still see a minimum of 5h+ screen on time every day. set up your device right, and if you have a great signal you will have very hood battery life no matter what you use.
Combine rooted stock, Franco kernel and the Xposed framework plus it's various modules and you will get most of the Custom ROM features along with better battery life and stability. I'm very pleased with that combo.
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Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Thanks for the replies guys. What ROM would you recommend for GB-like customization options, stability, and good battery life?
karabasdutapis said:
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
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Yep, SlimKat, If stock Slim is missing a feature, about 50 people in that thread build their own Slim with some mods. One guy builds a version that has a DL/UL speed indication, L-style navbar buttons, and a bunch of other things.
Kernel, use Code_Blue. I prefer it over Franco. Just don't use the stock Slim kernel.
rahulpat13 said:
Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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rootSU said:
Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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Thats why we have slim rom
doctor_droid said:
Thats why we have slim rom
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Indeed. Even then I still add xposed though.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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The only way a ROM can really affect battery is if a feature is designed poorly or there's a derp in the build..
But yeah, you can't really improve "ROM battery life", you can only make sure there aren't any problems which affect it negatively.
rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
BirchBarlow said:
Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
Lethargy said:
Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
doctor_droid said:
Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Might not be noticeable, or it might be obvious, it's still always going to slow it down overall. Different experience between different people.
karabasdutapis said:
So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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I've used every Rom and kernel almost and after setting each up how I regularly do, and with similar usage patterns always....my battery times were always similar.
I never play with the clock speeds I should add......but that's my experience. The roms or kernels I used made no real difference to my battery life.
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Yes I've seen lots of "claims"....And guess what, many believe them. ?
Title says it all, I'm currently using PA and I'm not satisfied with performance.
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try a different kernel. performance and battery doesn't come from Roms. performance from kernels, battery from your use. battery life all depends on your personal use, your personal setup, your apps installed, and the quality of your phone/data signal. everything else is minor battery-wise.
simms22 said:
try a different kernel. performance and battery doesn't come from Roms. performance from kernels, battery from your use. battery life all depends on your personal use, your personal setup, your apps installed, and the quality of your phone/data signal. everything else is minor battery-wise.
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Can you recommend me good kernel for CyanogenMod 11?
Isus <3 said:
Can you recommend me good kernel for CyanogenMod 11?
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well, i personally dont use cm, so cant really recommend a cm kernel. i know cm users could recommend one. i hear elemental has a good cm kernel..
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I use simple aosp with Franco kernel
Set the hotplug on Franco to 90 and governor to interactive
Now enjoy both performance and battery life
SirMatin said:
I use simple aosp with Franco kernel
Set the hotplug on Franco to 90 and governor to interactive
Now enjoy both performance and battery life
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he is using cm.. franco kernel isnt cm compatible.
I installed elemental x its badass
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I installed elemental x its badass
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great!
as it was the only good kernel for cm that i personally knew of
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few.pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development
forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective. What we*all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the*misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Hey guys.. Returned after a long time on XDA.. Was using unrooted nexus since a year now..
Planning to unlock bootloader and get a custom kernel for my n5 currently on lollipop having LRX210..
Which would be the best kernel for stock ROM..?
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Hey guys.. Returned after a long time on XDA.. Was using unrooted nexus since a year now..
Planning to unlock bootloader and get a custom kernel for my n5 currently on lollipop having LRX210..
Which would be the best kernel for stock ROM..?
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"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
rootSU said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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I know this.. Got your point, Visiting XDA like after a year almost so forgot how even I used to answer to such stupid questions.. Will go through kernels.. Want kernel just for root and recovery and undervolting..
I would change it to say which is the most stable kernel with the stock ROM?
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I know this.. Got your point, Visiting XDA like after a year almost so forgot how even I used to answer to such stupid questions.. Will go through kernels.. Want kernel just for root and recovery and undervolting..
I would change it to say which is the most stable kernel with the stock ROM?
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They're all pretty stable. Personally I prefer to use ElementalX, but really just look for features and try
rootSU said:
They're all pretty stable. Personally I prefer to use ElementalX, but really just look for features and try
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Hmm thanks
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Hi,
Should I root my nexus 5?
I still have a year warranty so...
Which kernel should I flash then : Franco Kernel, or Code Blue Kernel?
I am running lollipop 5.0.1 stock right now. Screen on 1/4 brightness, no location and WiFi turned off when I don't use it. Know I am getting around 12h battery life with 2-3h screen on time, would one of the kernels help with battery life? And how much? Will it be worth to void my guarantee for it?
Thanks in advance!
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Tr3bIx said:
Hi,
Should I root my nexus 5?
I still have a year warranty so...
Which kernel should I flash then : Franco Kernel, or Code Blue Kernel?
I am running lollipop 5.0.1 stock right now. Screen on 1/4 brightness, no location and WiFi turned off when I don't use it. Know I am getting around 12h battery life with 2-3h screen on time, would one of the kernels help with battery life? And how much? Will it be worth to void my guarantee for it?
Thanks in advance!
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Questions belong in Q&A.
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hi!
Thanks for taking your time and your explanation mate, you really helped me out! Think I am gonna see for Franco kernel, cause there are more users and more tweaking options to fit my wills.
Thanks again!
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Hi,
This is my first OnePlus phone and I'm really enjoying the 7 Pro. Battery life is good, but I want it to be great. Is there a general agreement on which kernel or tweak actually increases battery life without bugs? I see so many different versions and it's hard to keep up with the threads when I'm not following consistently.
Thanks in advance.
I'm using elementalx, it is better than stock kernal in terms of battery drainage, but I was also wondering what is a kernal? I know the basic that it loads before the os and is the device manager for all the drivers basically. But then what is the customizations? Aggressive progressive I o words I have no idea what they mean. One kernal focus on battery, another on speed, another on audio. Arnt all kernals basically the same then with just a different setting?
I use stock ATM
I started out using stock kernel then went to elementalx now I'm using Smurf and I'm getting the same battery life with better performance