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I am finally free of the evil Amazon App Store and I also deleted all the free apps of the day I downloaded. I want a few of them again from the Android Market but after an uninstall and even a clear data from the Market the Market says I already purchased those apps and it won't let me download them! Does anyone know of a way to fix this issue?
Steps I have taken:
- Clear data and cache of market app (numerous times)
- Wiped entire phone
- Reloaded ROM
- Did NOT let the setup restore anything
- Reloaded my apps with TiBu
For some reason the market on my phone and online says I have some of the Amazon apps I still want and won't let me download them. It just says purchased and won't let me download them because I didn't buy them from the Market. Any help would be awesome!
why is amazon evil? Because they give you free apps everyday? Or let everyone in your family have an app with only one purchase?
What a way to answer his question and the help the community bro...
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lrs421 said:
What a way to answer his question and the help the community bro...
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umm, he bashed amazon, I asked why. I have no idea why market says apps are installed that really aren't. My solution, you should have all your apps backed up with either app monster pro or titanium backup. App monster pro lets you restore apps directly from the market.
If not, a hard reset might be the easest answer.
At least my post was on topic.
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I have no idea why market says apps are installed that really aren't....
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That sums it up. Thanks.
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nrfitchett4 said:
why is amazon evil? Because they give you free apps everyday? Or let everyone in your family have an app with only one purchase?
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They may or may not be evil, but they do write some sh**** code for their amazon store application as well as how they implement their DRM. I can tell you however, that they are pretty evil to those that choose to develop on their appstore though.
http://bithack.se/news/apparatus-amazon-july-4-2011.html
I'm guessing the market somehow still thinks you purchased the apps because of the amazon store writing half*** code and there's not much that can be done really
Mustang302LX, I just tried to duplicate the issue and wasn't able to. "Seal" is a paid application I downloaded from Amazon. When I uninstall it and then go to the Android Market there's no trace of it from the Amazon store. The google market should only recognize apps purchased via its checkout.
I would try another full system wipe including the Android and data folders on your sdcard. Basically try to get it as close to out of box as possible without going back to the stock rom
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yareally said:
http://bithack.se/news/apparatus-amazon-july-4-2011.html
I'm guessing the market somehow still thinks you purchased the apps because of the amazon store writing half*** code and there's not much that can be done really
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Ughh. I've heard this about the Amazon market, that and it being a Monster battery hog.
By contacting google market directly they may be able to clear those transactions from your profile.
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yareally said:
They may or may not be evil, but they do write some sh**** code for their amazon store application as well as how they implement their DRM. I can tell you however, that they are pretty evil to those that choose to develop on their appstore though.
http://bithack.se/news/apparatus-amazon-july-4-2011.html
I'm guessing the market somehow still thinks you purchased the apps because of the amazon store writing half*** code and there's not much that can be done really
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I'm not a dev so I really don't care if an indie dev has a problem with amazon. I like to purchase apps on there because I have 4 phones with 4 different gmail accounts, that I would have to purchase 4 copies of the same app for my family. This would get expensive quick. Amazon allows you to install an app across all of your devices. This is why I always look there first when buying an app.
I wish the review process was faster, but I appreciate the fact that they review the apps. The market is full of crap apps and apps that have been copied from other devs. I know its the other extreme, but coming from windows phone, I prefer that to any app making it and it being up to me to make sure its not malware.
What's weird about the OP's problem is that when I install an app from amazon and from market (on accident I've done this a couple of times), it recognizes either way that it was from the other site and asks me if I want to uninstall the one version and install it from the market.
If this is happening after a data wipe, there are bigger issues here.
edit: same reason I use amazon music vs google music. I would have to upload my music to all the gmail accounts instead of one amazon account.
Now who's off topic, we're glad YOU prefer Amazon and it fits for YOUR family but...that's not what this thread is about. And please don't write back with some looooong semi personal response, it's not that serious.
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If I wanted opinions on Amazon I would of asked for them. For those with input to my issue thanks.
Lrs I checked data and android on SD card didn't see traces of the apps I want that claim to be purchased.
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Mustang302LX said:
If I wanted opinions on Amazon I would of asked for them. For those with input to my issue thanks.
Lrs I checked data and android on SD card didn't see traces of the apps I want that claim to be purchased.
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Such an obvious solution, but I didn't about the crap they stick on the sdcard being the issue. Oh well, glad you figured it out.
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Such an obvious solution, but I didn't about the crap they stick on the sdcard being the issue. Oh well, glad you figured it out.
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I don't know where on the SD card though. So haven't solved yet.
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Mustang302LX said:
I don't know where on the SD card though. So haven't solved yet.
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Perhaps /sdcard/Android/data/ I see some amazon bs under there.
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Perhaps /sdcard/Android/data/ I see some amazon bs under there.
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I looked there but it must go away with an uninstall. Might backup SD card and format and just put music and pics back along with a full wipe this weekend.
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Update: I removed my SD card and turned phone on and cleaed market cache and data and no good. So I came up with a backup plan. Since the Market allows for multiple sign ons I created a 2nd account and using that I am able to sign into the Market easily and download all the apps it claims I have purchased on my primary account. It's not the absolute best work around but it does work so that's a good thing for now.
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Update: I removed my SD card and turned phone on and cleaed market cache and data and no good. So I came up with a backup plan. Since the Market allows for multiple sign ons I created a 2nd account and using that I am able to sign into the Market easily and download all the apps it claims I have purchased on my primary account. It's not the absolute best work around but it does work so that's a good thing for now.
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Geesh. Well that's what happens to Patriot fans
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Have you tried detaching those apps from the market with Tibu?
lrs421 said:
Geesh. Well that's what happens to Patriot fans
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lol oh w/e
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Have you tried detaching those apps from the market with Tibu?
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they were detached prior to deleting them all.
So i tried this app called easy battery saver as an alternative to juice defender, and as soon as i enabled it, the app nuked my data connection. I've tried disabling it and uninstalling it but nothing works.
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Reflash modem
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My Droid Charge/Verizon also had data connection nuked by "easy battery saver" app. There are quite a few postings on various forums of other unfortunates, mostly Droid Charge, but a few LG.
My phone isn't rooted and I don't know how to flash the modem.
Is there anything simpler that can be done? I would prefer not to have to factory reset as the backup apps don't save app settings etc. on non-rooted phones.
Help anyone?
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Reflash modem
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This didn't work
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JihadSquad said:
This didn't work
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I think you're boned.
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kvswim said:
I think you're boned.
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A factory reset brought my data back, so i took the opportunity to install tweakstock. I guess it was a plus in the end.
I think we should all report the app for causing such damage to the phone with no warning whatsoever and no solution. It must suck to have to reset a stock phone.
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Expecting that I need to do a factory I bought MyBackup Pro and did a full backup but it seems that without root access the app settings are not saved. Since I didn't relish having to do rooting or factory reset I thought I would give the app developers a chance to do the right thing.
The response has been a series of generic emails pointing me at a new version of the app that do not fix my problem. I am guessing that it simply copies the (dysfunctional) APN it finds on first launch then its reset function simply writes this still dysfunctional setting back. Can't they just provide a simple appto write the correct Verizon APN?
I am not generally a ranting type but it is frustrating that there is no further recourse than just to advertise the serious bug and poor response to this forum. I posted a query also on Charge Forums, is there another good place to post a warning? Or am I just wasting my time?
Oh, and naturally my iPhone friends say "I told you so" just to rub salt in the wound!
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Expecting that I need to do a factory I bought MyBackup Pro and did a full backup but it seems that without root access the app settings are not saved. Since I didn't relish having to do rooting or factory reset I thought I would give the app developers a chance to do the right thing.
The response has been a series of generic emails pointing me at a new version of the app that do not fix my problem. I am guessing that it simply copies the (dysfunctional) APN it finds on first launch then its reset function simply writes this still dysfunctional setting back. Can't they just provide a simple appto write the correct Verizon APN?
I am not generally a ranting type but it is frustrating that there is no further recourse than just to advertise the serious bug and poor response to this forum. I posted a query also on Charge Forums, is there another good place to post a warning? Or am I just wasting my time?
Oh, and naturally my iPhone friends say "I told you so" just to rub salt in the wound!
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I would have preferred it if they outright blacklisted the charge from downloading the app, as well as any phone it also breaks.
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Pretty sure its broken my data too, it keeps jumping on and off all day. Will check with my operator that there aren't issues in my area but it was fine over the weekend.
Dug this up from a different forum. Works for sure.
1) Install app called "any cut" on wifi, it allows you to create any shortcut.
2) In the app go to new shortcut > activities> APNs
3) Create shortcut to access APNs (I guess default APN manager) and restore settings. Voila!
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I've had my One S for about a week now, coming from a Nexus S. I was pretty blessed with the vanilla updates, but was excited to use the best yet Sense 4. But one of the few gripes I have about this stock ROM is that when I click youtube, instagram or other links that have their own apps, I have no option to "complete action using..." And it kicks me to the web browser every time.
Have you noticed this? If you have, have you found a solution? Or a workaround at least?
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I have noticed this, and I've noticed that when I click a Play Store link that it brings me to the web page instead of asking if I want to use the app instead. I've cleared defaults from my browser several times, nothing works. I'm pretty sure that it worked before, though, so I'm stumped.
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I have noticed this, and I've noticed that when I click a Play Store link that it brings me to the web page instead of asking if I want to use the app instead. I've cleared defaults from my browser several times, nothing works. I'm pretty sure that it worked before, though, so I'm stumped.
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What browser are you using? I downloaded the Chrome Beta immediately after setting up the phone so I have no experience with the stock browser. Are you using the stock browser?
I'm also using Chrome, which I suspect might be the culprit, but I haven't had the time to uninstall and test.
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This is a probelm with the updated Sense. App Associations only lets you pick a browser to open urls.
If any of you can call HTC or go and send them a report on their website it would help, I have a Rezound and the problem has been there with every ICS leak. I filled out a support ticket but don't have a One device.
I have had no problems at all with this, I'm using chrome. I have been able to open play store as well
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root the phone, delete htclinkifydispatcher.apk from /system/app, clear defaults for the browser, reboot. youtube, play store links, etc will prompt what to open when you click on them.
I tried to freeze that app, using TB. But now Google search widget doesn't work.
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root the phone, delete htclinkifydispatcher.apk from /system/app, clear defaults for the browser, reboot. youtube, play store links, etc will prompt what to open when you click on them.
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yeah, using root browser, wont let me delete that, keeps on failing.
went into titanium backup and froze it, now no links open, there is no prompt.
hope its that easy
This fix worked for me, in that it allowed me to open links to the market through webpages. However, it seems to create a new problem -- it breaks QR code scanners...
Looks like this may be happening on all HTC phones: http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/550016-app-associations-screwed-my-phone-up.html. From what I have read, this is due to the Apple lawsuit. Given that the lawsuit only dealt with US users, I wonder if European versions are having this problem.
couchmonkey said:
yeah, using root browser, wont let me delete that, keeps on failing.
went into titanium backup and froze it, now no links open, there is no prompt.
hope its that easy
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After freezing it, were you able to still use the Google Search widget?
It looks like links directed to the old Market actually open to the Play Store. It's just newer links to http://play.google.com/store that take you straight to the browser.
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This fix worked for me, in that it allowed me to open links to the market through webpages. However, it seems to create a new problem -- it breaks QR code scanners...
Looks like this may be happening on all HTC phones: http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/550016-app-associations-screwed-my-phone-up.html. From what I have read, this is due to the Apple lawsuit. Given that the lawsuit only dealt with US users, I wonder if European versions are having this problem.
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No, my phone does not have this issue, UK unbranded.
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Yeah, I started that thread over on Android forums.
I'm kinda glad to see that I'm not the only one having these problems.
I'm running a Thunderbolt. Just got the update (both my wife and I).
Now both of ours are having this problem.
I've searched and finally narrowed it down to the new App Associations section.
I don't think it has anything to do with which browser is used.
It just now forces all 'Web URLs' to use the browser as opposed to an installed app.
I don't know how extensive this is, and who all is going to be affected by it, but it's definitely a major issue. It destroyed the usability of this phone.
I'm can't root my wife's or my own phone. There's got to be a work around. Or they've got to be releasing a revised update. This couldn't have been done on purpose. The phone worked beautifully before, integrating all the apps that I had. Now everything I do is screwed up. Nothing is working how it's supposed to.
If it's any help...I have an HTC Thunderbolt through Verizon. Stock Rom.
Is this new App Association thing affecting all Androids? Is it something that was updated across the board, or only on specific devices/ or specific carriers? I've been banging my head against a wall trying to figure this all out for the last three days, and it seems like no one knows what I'm talking about, and my posts are invisible. I've been going crazy.
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There is another thread that goes into the specifics of what is going on and why...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26259679
Linking to here...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/friday-folly-htc-changes-u-s-android-phones-to-avoid-injunction/7889
Looks like HTC got sued, so those of us in the US with an HTC product got screwed.
They are avoiding legal issues, be removing an Apple Patented process for detection of things which can open apps that are installed on the phone.
Without this, the phone is junk to me. It makes it wholly unusable and takes literally at least 3-4 times longer to complete my tasks.
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Looks like HTC got sued, so those of us in the US with an HTC product got screwed.
They are avoiding legal issues, be removing an Apple Patented process for detection of things which can open apps that are installed on the phone.
Without this, the phone is junk to me. It makes it wholly unusable and takes literally at least 3-4 times longer to complete my tasks.
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There's not going to be an unrooted work around. You have some choices, but they all require you to learn to live with it, root, or get a different phone.
I am an angry consumer, and I punish companies that screw with me by not doing business with them, and encouraging others to avoid then as well. I've also been known to fire off an angry letter, or phone call to the offending party. Apple isn't worried about you or me, so that's wasted effort in this case. What's left is punishing HTC by not buying their products, but it's too late in both our cases, so basically call or write them telling them to "fu***ng pay Apple for the patent license and fix our phones". This App Associations bs ain't cutting it to keep us happy. Like you I don't want to root, but I think it may be the only way, unless a ****-ton of us tell HTC to fix it, it's going to stay the same.
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There is a work around, at least for YouTube links. Install the app Flashify. Share the YouTube link to it and select the YouTube app
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I'm using a custom rom & now its back to normal asking me "complete action using"
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AttachedSilver said:
I'm using a custom rom & now its back to normal asking me "complete action using"
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If your custom rom is euro based, this makes sense. They were not part of the trademark infringement case brought by those idiots at Apple, so they don't have the app management workaround that is causing all the problems.
Does your custom rom have signal problems? As I recall, that was an issue being reported by tmous customers who tried some of the euro roms.
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If your custom rom is euro based, this makes sense. They were not part of the trademark infringement case brought by those idiots at Apple, so they don't have the app management workaround that is causing all the problems.
Does your custom rom have signal problems? As I recall, that was an issue being reported by tmous customers who tried some of the euro roms.
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Yes, its euro based. I went with it because of the app association. Well I've been using it for a while now and I have no problems with it. I've read about a "data bug" but have no problems with signal or using the mobile data.
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I can't get this to work for me, I have tried renaming and deleting, nothing works.
This is a widespread issue among thunderbolt users, but I haven't seen a thread here yet.
I haven't accepted the OTA update from earlier this week, but last night my phone booted with what I assume was a update. Now, any URL can only be directed to the Web browser, not an individual app (for example, Google play links link to the play website, not the app. Same with youtube links). There's not too much out there about it, but from what I've seen, this is due to a new patent lawsuit from apple directed at HTC. Apparently HTC laid down and just removed the function. This is terrible and pretty much ruins the phones functionality.
As of right now the only work around I've heard of is custom roms. Personally I don't have that option as this is a corporate phone. Has anyone heard anything or does anyone have any ideas for a work around? I imagine what would work would be a fake "browser" that you would set as the default and just would reroute to apps, but I certainly don't have the developing know-how to make such a thing.
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With the HTC One series, there's a new "App Associations" menu that allows you to assign what apps will be used for various link types... is there no equivalent in the new OTA update for the Thunderbolt?
After the update there is that setting in the applications menu under settings
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This is frustrating.
I updated to the software update and regret it to the fullest extent. Now NO videos of Youtube open in the app. This is a headache.
There is a new "apps association" menu in settings now, under Applications menu. But there is NO option to set YOUTUBE as a default like it used to be with ease.
Anybody here have a way around this??
What I found is using Opera Mini helps this by making it one less step to open videos in the app. But still miss the old direct way.
Help people!!
This is due to the patent judgment against HTC by Apple. The same judgment that recently delayed the release of the One X and the EVO 4G LTE. This feature will be removed in all future HTC releases.
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I went with browser swap, but that doesn't really help with YouTube links. Maybe someone will stand up and code an app?
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I went with browser swap, but that doesn't really help with YouTube links. Maybe someone will stand up and code an app?
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You can't. Apple patented the tech, all they will do is go after a new developer of such an app. Your best bet is to root, run titanium backup, and flash a custom rom that is based on an older Thunderbolt ROM if you want the feature back.
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You can't. Apple patented the tech, all they will do is go after a new developer of such an app. Your best bet is to root, run titanium backup, and flash a custom rom that is based on an older Thunderbolt ROM if you want the feature back.
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Or you edit the build prop and delete an HTC file in the system app directory, I saw it for the sense 3.x tons and.tried it on my tbolt and it worked. Google it.
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Or you edit the build prop and delete an HTC file in the system app directory, I saw it for the sense 3.x tons and.tried it on my tbolt and it worked. Google it.
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Does this require root?
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Without root, you can't delete system apps
ianargent said:
Without root, you can't delete system apps
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Got root? Yep.. all phones should be rooted and unlocked out the box.
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Got root? Yep.. all phones should be rooted and unlocked out the box.
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Unlocked, yes. Able to be rooted without an exploit, yes. With root enabled, no. I no longer log in on a admin account on my laptop for security reasons. The "default"use account should not have root
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Unlocked, yes. Able to be rooted without an exploit, yes. With root enabled, no. I no longer log in on a admin account on my laptop for security reasons. The "default"use account should not have root
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No always use an administrator account. Won't use anything less... That's how I roll......
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This is a widespread issue among thunderbolt users, but I haven't seen a thread here yet.
I haven't accepted the OTA update from earlier this week, but last night my phone booted with what I assume was a update. Now, any URL can only be directed to the Web browser, not an individual app (for example, Google play links link to the play website, not the app. Same with youtube links). There's not too much out there about it, but from what I've seen, this is due to a new patent lawsuit from apple directed at HTC. Apparently HTC laid down and just removed the function. This is terrible and pretty much ruins the phones functionality.
As of right now the only work around I've heard of is custom roms. Personally I don't have that option as this is a corporate phone. Has anyone heard anything or does anyone have any ideas for a work around? I imagine what would work would be a fake "browser" that you would set as the default and just would reroute to apps, but I certainly don't have the developing know-how to make such a thing.
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That's not exactly some HTC key/core feature. It's in every Android phone and part of the Android source itself. Even the Galaxy Nexus does it. It's not even a phone specific feature. PCs have done it for years using file://some-local-filesystem-point and using sockets to link apps to other apps. That's all Android does pretty much. Since everyone should be rooted on here (the thunderbolt is painful if you don't), it doesn't affect anyone.
Also I see no source links in your post. Means nothing if you can't link to something verifiable.
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No always use an administrator account. Won't use anything less... That's how I roll......
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If you like working without a safety net, more power to you. I'd rather be safe than sorry, myself
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If you like working without a safety net, more power to you. I'd rather be safe than sorry, myself
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Gotta roll on the wild side.
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Without root, you can't delete system apps
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hi i am using htc salsa..i ve deleted all my system application unfortunately...any way to re install all the applications...if its possible please let me know..thanks in advance
daanniey said:
hi i am using htc salsa..i ve deleted all my system application unfortunately...any way to re install all the applications...if its possible please let me know..thanks in advance
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Mathiias said:
This is due to the patent judgment against HTC by Apple. The same judgment that recently delayed the release of the One X and the EVO 4G LTE. This feature will be removed in all future HTC releases.
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Apple said they should be the only one to make a smartphone and they are using the patent system to their advantage. I don't like it anymore then anyone else. Perhaps we should all send a letter to waz for him to become.the.next apple ceo and chairmen. He also uses android
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Alright guys,
As most of you may already know, AT&T has been sending letters out claiming that users are tethering. I want to start a poll and see out of all you that received this letter or text. How many of you have AT&T Visual Voice Mail installed on your phone. Doesn't matter if you use it or not.
Reason being is that if you guys haven't seen the permissions for VVM this is what two of them are:
Network Communication:
View Network Connections
Allows the app to view information about network connections such as which networks exist and are connected
System Tools
Retrieve Running Apps
Allows the app to retrieve information about currently and recently running tasks. This may allow the app to discover information about which applications are used on the device
Reason for this poll is to see if VVM is what is notifying AT&T of the "Tethering" Activities.
To clarify on the poll answers:
If you have VVM frozen then consider it as not having it installed.
i use vvm. i used foxfi and got the letter. sad.
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I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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When you say disabled, do you mean frozen or just installed but not using it?
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Have vvm and use it and have not gotten a letter when I tether my tab on sky-ice with built in tether
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I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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you have to call att to activate it. google voice works the same just too lazy. wish i never activated mine. lolz
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With AT&T VVM installed, I was using the built-in AOKP tethering and I got the letter.
I have VVM and have used the Clockworkmod Tether app, which does USB tethering, never gotten a letter.
Alright, you guys are going to love this. So I just called AT&T about the letter. I figured I'd stick with the "play dumb" approach. I said I didn't know what it was about and I couldn't figure out how to tether anyway. Blah blah blah.. he said that when tethering use is reported over the network, the technicians verify it through "multiple redundant verification". I told him that after we got the letter, I tried to see if I could tether and that my phone wouldn't let me. He then stated "well, there are lots of apps that can let you tether," and he proceeded to rattle off a prepared list of apps including FoxFi and a dozen or so others.
This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
aycockonxion said:
This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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This kind of meshes with a conversation I had the other day with my AT&T contact. He said that there's been a lot of effort lately put into finding rooted devices on the network and getting them off.
I think at this point we can safely say that any AT&T-provided stock app is to be considered spyware, and should be removed from the phone entirely (not frozen, deleted with phone caches wiped) the second you root.
That said, there's nothing stopping them from putting silent tracker apps elsewhere in the phone and hiding them completely. Here's the fun part: the contracts don't say anything about rooting the phone, do they? If they start kicking root users off the network or forcing us to change off of unlimited data because we've rooted our phone, they'd be begging for a class-action lawsuit.
That said, there's nothing stopping them from putting silent tracker apps elsewhere in the phone and hiding them completely. Here's the fun part: the contracts don't say anything about rooting the phone, do they? If they start kicking root users off the network or forcing us to change off of unlimited data because we've rooted our phone, they'd be begging for a class-action lawsuit.
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Especially when the US Supreme Court ruled that it was completely legal for us to root our phones. They just don't have to provide technical support for rooted phones.
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zomgjosho said:
I have VVM and have used the Clockworkmod Tether app, which does USB tethering, never gotten a letter.
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i went to the play store and it says skyrocket is not supported by this app. what's up with that?
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aycockonxion said:
Alright, you guys are going to love this. So I just called AT&T about the letter. I figured I'd stick with the "play dumb" approach. I said I didn't know what it was about and I couldn't figure out how to tether anyway. Blah blah blah.. he said that when tethering use is reported over the network, the technicians verify it through "multiple redundant verification". I told him that after we got the letter, I tried to see if I could tether and that my phone wouldn't let me. He then stated "well, there are lots of apps that can let you tether," and he proceeded to rattle off a prepared list of apps including FoxFi and a dozen or so others.
This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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but then what happens if you need to send the phone back for replacement?
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specter07 said:
When you say disabled, do you mean frozen or just installed but not using it?
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Like frozen. Hopefully by having it frozen I can avoid this slap.
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sly-tendencies said:
Like frozen. Hopefully by having it frozen I can avoid this slap.
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Delete it entirely using Tibu. VVM is not a critical system process, and I don't trust that app at all.
I've been going through a lot of AT&T apps and most of them have the spyware on them.
As for being able to know if you are running stock firmware or not, I'm shocked to hear that.
As a community I think it's safe to say that no AT&T app can be trusted. They are using something to be able to gather information, we just have to figure out what it is.
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Ahhh....this brings me back to the good old CIQ days......
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What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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droidbabyxda said:
but then what happens if you need to send the phone back for replacement?
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You'll have to do a proper restoration to stock.. I believe vincom has detailed this procedure.
T.J. Bender said:
Delete it entirely using Tibu. VVM is not a critical system process, and I don't trust that app at all.
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I agree 110%.
bps119 said:
What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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At this point I would encourage everyone to remove ALL AT&T apps from a rooted phone.
bps119 said:
What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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+1 Same question here too...
Sent from somewhere in Galaxy SII...
NoSpamDan said:
+1 Same question here too...
Sent from somewhere in Galaxy SII...
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It's pretty safe to assume that this and all current AT&T apps have spyware built in.