I've had my One S for about a week now, coming from a Nexus S. I was pretty blessed with the vanilla updates, but was excited to use the best yet Sense 4. But one of the few gripes I have about this stock ROM is that when I click youtube, instagram or other links that have their own apps, I have no option to "complete action using..." And it kicks me to the web browser every time.
Have you noticed this? If you have, have you found a solution? Or a workaround at least?
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I have noticed this, and I've noticed that when I click a Play Store link that it brings me to the web page instead of asking if I want to use the app instead. I've cleared defaults from my browser several times, nothing works. I'm pretty sure that it worked before, though, so I'm stumped.
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I have noticed this, and I've noticed that when I click a Play Store link that it brings me to the web page instead of asking if I want to use the app instead. I've cleared defaults from my browser several times, nothing works. I'm pretty sure that it worked before, though, so I'm stumped.
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What browser are you using? I downloaded the Chrome Beta immediately after setting up the phone so I have no experience with the stock browser. Are you using the stock browser?
I'm also using Chrome, which I suspect might be the culprit, but I haven't had the time to uninstall and test.
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This is a probelm with the updated Sense. App Associations only lets you pick a browser to open urls.
If any of you can call HTC or go and send them a report on their website it would help, I have a Rezound and the problem has been there with every ICS leak. I filled out a support ticket but don't have a One device.
I have had no problems at all with this, I'm using chrome. I have been able to open play store as well
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root the phone, delete htclinkifydispatcher.apk from /system/app, clear defaults for the browser, reboot. youtube, play store links, etc will prompt what to open when you click on them.
I tried to freeze that app, using TB. But now Google search widget doesn't work.
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root the phone, delete htclinkifydispatcher.apk from /system/app, clear defaults for the browser, reboot. youtube, play store links, etc will prompt what to open when you click on them.
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yeah, using root browser, wont let me delete that, keeps on failing.
went into titanium backup and froze it, now no links open, there is no prompt.
hope its that easy
This fix worked for me, in that it allowed me to open links to the market through webpages. However, it seems to create a new problem -- it breaks QR code scanners...
Looks like this may be happening on all HTC phones: http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/550016-app-associations-screwed-my-phone-up.html. From what I have read, this is due to the Apple lawsuit. Given that the lawsuit only dealt with US users, I wonder if European versions are having this problem.
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yeah, using root browser, wont let me delete that, keeps on failing.
went into titanium backup and froze it, now no links open, there is no prompt.
hope its that easy
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After freezing it, were you able to still use the Google Search widget?
It looks like links directed to the old Market actually open to the Play Store. It's just newer links to http://play.google.com/store that take you straight to the browser.
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This fix worked for me, in that it allowed me to open links to the market through webpages. However, it seems to create a new problem -- it breaks QR code scanners...
Looks like this may be happening on all HTC phones: http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/550016-app-associations-screwed-my-phone-up.html. From what I have read, this is due to the Apple lawsuit. Given that the lawsuit only dealt with US users, I wonder if European versions are having this problem.
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No, my phone does not have this issue, UK unbranded.
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Yeah, I started that thread over on Android forums.
I'm kinda glad to see that I'm not the only one having these problems.
I'm running a Thunderbolt. Just got the update (both my wife and I).
Now both of ours are having this problem.
I've searched and finally narrowed it down to the new App Associations section.
I don't think it has anything to do with which browser is used.
It just now forces all 'Web URLs' to use the browser as opposed to an installed app.
I don't know how extensive this is, and who all is going to be affected by it, but it's definitely a major issue. It destroyed the usability of this phone.
I'm can't root my wife's or my own phone. There's got to be a work around. Or they've got to be releasing a revised update. This couldn't have been done on purpose. The phone worked beautifully before, integrating all the apps that I had. Now everything I do is screwed up. Nothing is working how it's supposed to.
If it's any help...I have an HTC Thunderbolt through Verizon. Stock Rom.
Is this new App Association thing affecting all Androids? Is it something that was updated across the board, or only on specific devices/ or specific carriers? I've been banging my head against a wall trying to figure this all out for the last three days, and it seems like no one knows what I'm talking about, and my posts are invisible. I've been going crazy.
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There is another thread that goes into the specifics of what is going on and why...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26259679
Linking to here...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/friday-folly-htc-changes-u-s-android-phones-to-avoid-injunction/7889
Looks like HTC got sued, so those of us in the US with an HTC product got screwed.
They are avoiding legal issues, be removing an Apple Patented process for detection of things which can open apps that are installed on the phone.
Without this, the phone is junk to me. It makes it wholly unusable and takes literally at least 3-4 times longer to complete my tasks.
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Looks like HTC got sued, so those of us in the US with an HTC product got screwed.
They are avoiding legal issues, be removing an Apple Patented process for detection of things which can open apps that are installed on the phone.
Without this, the phone is junk to me. It makes it wholly unusable and takes literally at least 3-4 times longer to complete my tasks.
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There's not going to be an unrooted work around. You have some choices, but they all require you to learn to live with it, root, or get a different phone.
I am an angry consumer, and I punish companies that screw with me by not doing business with them, and encouraging others to avoid then as well. I've also been known to fire off an angry letter, or phone call to the offending party. Apple isn't worried about you or me, so that's wasted effort in this case. What's left is punishing HTC by not buying their products, but it's too late in both our cases, so basically call or write them telling them to "fu***ng pay Apple for the patent license and fix our phones". This App Associations bs ain't cutting it to keep us happy. Like you I don't want to root, but I think it may be the only way, unless a ****-ton of us tell HTC to fix it, it's going to stay the same.
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There is a work around, at least for YouTube links. Install the app Flashify. Share the YouTube link to it and select the YouTube app
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I'm using a custom rom & now its back to normal asking me "complete action using"
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I'm using a custom rom & now its back to normal asking me "complete action using"
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If your custom rom is euro based, this makes sense. They were not part of the trademark infringement case brought by those idiots at Apple, so they don't have the app management workaround that is causing all the problems.
Does your custom rom have signal problems? As I recall, that was an issue being reported by tmous customers who tried some of the euro roms.
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If your custom rom is euro based, this makes sense. They were not part of the trademark infringement case brought by those idiots at Apple, so they don't have the app management workaround that is causing all the problems.
Does your custom rom have signal problems? As I recall, that was an issue being reported by tmous customers who tried some of the euro roms.
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Yes, its euro based. I went with it because of the app association. Well I've been using it for a while now and I have no problems with it. I've read about a "data bug" but have no problems with signal or using the mobile data.
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I can't get this to work for me, I have tried renaming and deleting, nothing works.
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For as long as T-mobile has allowed it, I've always had issues with it randomly disappearing then appearing regardless of what I do. Just to confirm modifying wasn't the cause, I completely restored my device to its out-of-box state to no avail. I've cleared the cache, uninstalled and reinstalled, installed different versions of the market, etc but still nothing
Then one day out of the blue, there it was. The very next day, gone. Not sure if this has been address before, and it's not a major issue, it simply annoys the hell out of me not knowing the cause! Anybody know why?
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Very annoying!
Now as far as I know this happens if the app you are trying to purchase has to be paid to an account outside of the USA, but it seems like you were trying to purchase 4ext which I was easily able to pay with tmobile account
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Now as far as I know this happens if the app you are trying to purchase has to be paid to an account outside of the USA, but it seems like you were trying to purchase 4ext which I was easily able to pay with tmobile account
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Exactly. That just adds to my frustration.
Screenshots of my Sensation & G2X using the same account and billing information.
Am I the only one who experienced this?
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Chance Ill said:
For as long as T-mobile has allowed it, I've always had issues with it randomly disappearing then appearing regardless of what I do. Just to confirm modifying wasn't the cause, I completely restored my device to its out-of-box state to no avail. I've cleared the cache, uninstalled and reinstalled, installed different versions of the market, etc but still nothing
Then one day out of the blue, there it was. The very next day, gone. Not sure if this has been address before, and it's not a major issue, it simply annoys the hell out of me not knowing the cause! Anybody know why?
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why would you have a cc on file with your phone
craven667 said:
why would you have a cc on file with your phone
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Uh, to buy apps because of the very reason stated above....... :/
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Hi everyone.I am new here and it's my first post.I bought htc sensation 4g from a relative who is a t mobile customer. I s-off it and installed a new os called RC MIX 3D,hoping it will boost my Internet connection speed and etc.but it didn't help that much.recently,I installed a lot of applications and today when I started my phone,It didn't start normally.finally my phone entered in to a safe mode.what shall I do.I appreciate any help.Thanks!
Just wondering, since iOS is a much more closed echosystem. Do they get forcecloses (or whatever they call them) with their apps.
Recently I've gotten a few forceclose when trying to use the Navigate app. It annoyed me, since this is a google product running on a google phone. Just had me wondering if iPhone has same issues?
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Just wondering, since iOS is a much more closed echosystem. Do they get forcecloses (or whatever they call them) with their apps.
Recently I've gotten a few forceclose when trying to use the Navigate app. It annoyed me, since this is a google product running on a google phone. Just had me wondering if iPhone has same issues?
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Really? I think your Navigate app sent you to the wrong forum?
I used to have an iPhone. I had about the same number of force closes on it as I have my skyrocket which is to say very few.
My android tablet however gets a ton of force closes. I suppose it depends on which android device.
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Really? I think your Navigate app sent you to the wrong forum?
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bhahahaha... Okay nicely done.
I didn't know where else to post this.
IPhone apps just close. You do not get an error message.
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Ask em in the apple forums.....sorry I couldn't resist.:thumbup:
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Obviously being on a ICS leak the past month one would expect more FC but I will say my iPhone did have less issues with apps crashing on a whole. But some apps would have issues. I would say apple tends to have issues more with individual apps than general issues like I get with Droid. One is really not better than the other in this case. As usual, its more of the app programmers than the OS that will cause these issues.
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I had a iphone 4 that I got pissed off at and force closed it in a door.
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I had a iphone 4 that I got pissed off at and force closed it in a door.
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I wish I could +1000 that... but I can't. So here's a thanks.
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The apps crash every now and then, but I attributed it to jailbreak tweaks. I can't remember it ever really crashing when it was stock. Maybe once or twice.
A good deal of force closes are caused by the user. No properly knowing how to use the device. And there are ways to fix force closes. Unless its an actuall problem with an app. Just invloves some reading
I had a friend whose first gen iphone froze up completely and he had to wait for the battery to die before he could use it again.
I'm on stock Rogers ROM (I'm not even rooted). And I've gotten forcecloses for trying to go to the home screen (home.android), navigate app, the dialer once or twice force closed, the SMS app. These are suppose to be the stable core apps, I was just surprised that they forceclosed.
I was just curious if iOS had the same problems for their core apps?
iOS apps don't throw an error on the screen when they have a problem, they simply close. Apple likes a polite crash instead of supplying a useful message stating the app you have might be a pile of crap.
You would be shocked at how many iPhone users don't realize just how often their apps die.
I hear a lot of them brush it off as them accidentally hitting the home button or something similar. That's when I give my signature response... "It crashed you moron."
My wife has an iPhone 4 and she was shocked when I pointed out that her apps had in fact crashed.
Sheep will be sheep I guess.
On Android developers also have to make their apps work on several operating systems and hundreds of phones. Apple has to make work on one phone...
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On Android developers also have to make their apps work on several operating systems and hundreds of phones. Apple has to make work on one phone...
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More like 4 phones (3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S), two different screen resolutions and 3 major versions of iOS.
Some people still use a 3G and a lot of people still have a 3GS, myself included.
Apps are not 100% compatible between them and the 3G only supports iOS 3.1.3 and below.
The 3GS runs 5.1, but it's slow as mud.
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On Android developers also have to make their apps work on several operating systems and hundreds of phones. Apple has to make work on one phone...
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This is not my first Android phone, but I'm just surprised that some of the core apps (mentioned in my previous post, dialer, home screen, stock SMS) forceclosed.
I knew foreclosing was a huge issue but didn't know it was hitting phones!!!!
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More like 4 phones (3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S), two different screen resolutions and 3 major versions of iOS.
Some people still use a 3G and a lot of people still have a 3GS, myself included.
Apps are not 100% compatible between them and the 3G only supports iOS 3.1.3 and below.
The 3GS runs 5.1, but it's slow as mud.
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One phone or four phones. I was being sarcastic saying one. They are still closed source crap operating systems. My point is that its harder to make an app on android than apple, because of the variations of Android devices.
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Well I don't know if anybody else has had this issue but mine is with T-Mobile I think they don't like chrome beta or something because now when I use it I get shut out any questions
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That's so strange. I'm able to use and answer questions in the forum... Are you sure the comments are not closed? If not I would talk to them and ask the!y are locking you out? It seems unfair. Maybe they have a answer for you.
It seems to be a glitch with TMOUS and chrome where it detects tethering. The latest statement from T-Mobile says that you WILL need to upgrade your plan to use wifi tethering with ICS.
Sounds like a rip off hmmmm upgrade to ics and now have to pay $15 to even use the phone total BS I guess I have to downgrade or get a different phone 0.o
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Sounds like a rip off hmmmm upgrade to ics and now have to pay $15 to even use the phone total BS I guess I have to downgrade or get a different phone 0.o
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Just call them. It's right on your screenshot, "If you feel you've reached this message in error...".
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Sounds like a rip off hmmmm upgrade to ics and now have to pay $15 to even use the phone total BS I guess I have to downgrade or get a different phone 0.o
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Or either just use a different browser or find a way to change the user agent
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Not a official update or problem with their update so they aren't going to do much for that yet.
As for the 15 it is only if you are tethering not for regular phone use.
my self i havent done any tethering in the 5yrs i have been with them this is a first even on the stock browser it does the same thing!
I had the same problem. Called up tech support and they told me to do the usual things like clear cache, clear chrome data, blah blah. At the end the person just admitted that she doesn't know what's going on and they can't provide support for 3rd party apps.
i suggested to her that maybe its because the new updated chrome uses a new user agent string, something that T-mobile detects for wifi tethering. She denied it, but I really think that is the problem since when I restored an older version of chrome, it works fine and I never get the problem
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I had the same problem. Called up tech support and they told me to do the usual things like clear cache, clear chrome data, blah blah. At the end the person just admitted that she doesn't know what's going on and they can't provide support for 3rd party apps.
i suggested to her that maybe its because the new updated chrome uses a new user agent string, something that T-mobile detects for wifi tethering. She denied it, but I really think that is the problem since when I restored an older version of chrome, it works fine and I never get the problem
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Do me a favor and see if you can view full pages in the stock browser. If it blocks those too then it's no longer a 3rd party app issue!
Just tested the stock browser and no prob hmmmm
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Do me a favor and see if you can view full pages in the stock browser. If it blocks those too then it's no longer a 3rd party app issue!
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stock browser + older version of chrome both work fine
try viewing in desktop mode
I had a similar issue and it went away when I changed roms.
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Its a push msg from t-mobile. it got them a little bit back. Happened on stock browser. My Tether still worked i think its a mistake i called when i got it and they said i had tethering on my account and it must have been a mistake. Wipe browser data and you should be fine.
This is a widespread issue among thunderbolt users, but I haven't seen a thread here yet.
I haven't accepted the OTA update from earlier this week, but last night my phone booted with what I assume was a update. Now, any URL can only be directed to the Web browser, not an individual app (for example, Google play links link to the play website, not the app. Same with youtube links). There's not too much out there about it, but from what I've seen, this is due to a new patent lawsuit from apple directed at HTC. Apparently HTC laid down and just removed the function. This is terrible and pretty much ruins the phones functionality.
As of right now the only work around I've heard of is custom roms. Personally I don't have that option as this is a corporate phone. Has anyone heard anything or does anyone have any ideas for a work around? I imagine what would work would be a fake "browser" that you would set as the default and just would reroute to apps, but I certainly don't have the developing know-how to make such a thing.
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With the HTC One series, there's a new "App Associations" menu that allows you to assign what apps will be used for various link types... is there no equivalent in the new OTA update for the Thunderbolt?
After the update there is that setting in the applications menu under settings
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This is frustrating.
I updated to the software update and regret it to the fullest extent. Now NO videos of Youtube open in the app. This is a headache.
There is a new "apps association" menu in settings now, under Applications menu. But there is NO option to set YOUTUBE as a default like it used to be with ease.
Anybody here have a way around this??
What I found is using Opera Mini helps this by making it one less step to open videos in the app. But still miss the old direct way.
Help people!!
This is due to the patent judgment against HTC by Apple. The same judgment that recently delayed the release of the One X and the EVO 4G LTE. This feature will be removed in all future HTC releases.
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I went with browser swap, but that doesn't really help with YouTube links. Maybe someone will stand up and code an app?
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I went with browser swap, but that doesn't really help with YouTube links. Maybe someone will stand up and code an app?
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You can't. Apple patented the tech, all they will do is go after a new developer of such an app. Your best bet is to root, run titanium backup, and flash a custom rom that is based on an older Thunderbolt ROM if you want the feature back.
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You can't. Apple patented the tech, all they will do is go after a new developer of such an app. Your best bet is to root, run titanium backup, and flash a custom rom that is based on an older Thunderbolt ROM if you want the feature back.
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Or you edit the build prop and delete an HTC file in the system app directory, I saw it for the sense 3.x tons and.tried it on my tbolt and it worked. Google it.
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Or you edit the build prop and delete an HTC file in the system app directory, I saw it for the sense 3.x tons and.tried it on my tbolt and it worked. Google it.
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Does this require root?
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Without root, you can't delete system apps
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Without root, you can't delete system apps
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Got root? Yep.. all phones should be rooted and unlocked out the box.
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Got root? Yep.. all phones should be rooted and unlocked out the box.
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Unlocked, yes. Able to be rooted without an exploit, yes. With root enabled, no. I no longer log in on a admin account on my laptop for security reasons. The "default"use account should not have root
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Unlocked, yes. Able to be rooted without an exploit, yes. With root enabled, no. I no longer log in on a admin account on my laptop for security reasons. The "default"use account should not have root
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No always use an administrator account. Won't use anything less... That's how I roll......
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This is a widespread issue among thunderbolt users, but I haven't seen a thread here yet.
I haven't accepted the OTA update from earlier this week, but last night my phone booted with what I assume was a update. Now, any URL can only be directed to the Web browser, not an individual app (for example, Google play links link to the play website, not the app. Same with youtube links). There's not too much out there about it, but from what I've seen, this is due to a new patent lawsuit from apple directed at HTC. Apparently HTC laid down and just removed the function. This is terrible and pretty much ruins the phones functionality.
As of right now the only work around I've heard of is custom roms. Personally I don't have that option as this is a corporate phone. Has anyone heard anything or does anyone have any ideas for a work around? I imagine what would work would be a fake "browser" that you would set as the default and just would reroute to apps, but I certainly don't have the developing know-how to make such a thing.
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That's not exactly some HTC key/core feature. It's in every Android phone and part of the Android source itself. Even the Galaxy Nexus does it. It's not even a phone specific feature. PCs have done it for years using file://some-local-filesystem-point and using sockets to link apps to other apps. That's all Android does pretty much. Since everyone should be rooted on here (the thunderbolt is painful if you don't), it doesn't affect anyone.
Also I see no source links in your post. Means nothing if you can't link to something verifiable.
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No always use an administrator account. Won't use anything less... That's how I roll......
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If you like working without a safety net, more power to you. I'd rather be safe than sorry, myself
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If you like working without a safety net, more power to you. I'd rather be safe than sorry, myself
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Gotta roll on the wild side.
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ianargent said:
Without root, you can't delete system apps
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hi i am using htc salsa..i ve deleted all my system application unfortunately...any way to re install all the applications...if its possible please let me know..thanks in advance
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hi i am using htc salsa..i ve deleted all my system application unfortunately...any way to re install all the applications...if its possible please let me know..thanks in advance
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Mathiias said:
This is due to the patent judgment against HTC by Apple. The same judgment that recently delayed the release of the One X and the EVO 4G LTE. This feature will be removed in all future HTC releases.
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Apple said they should be the only one to make a smartphone and they are using the patent system to their advantage. I don't like it anymore then anyone else. Perhaps we should all send a letter to waz for him to become.the.next apple ceo and chairmen. He also uses android
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Alright guys,
As most of you may already know, AT&T has been sending letters out claiming that users are tethering. I want to start a poll and see out of all you that received this letter or text. How many of you have AT&T Visual Voice Mail installed on your phone. Doesn't matter if you use it or not.
Reason being is that if you guys haven't seen the permissions for VVM this is what two of them are:
Network Communication:
View Network Connections
Allows the app to view information about network connections such as which networks exist and are connected
System Tools
Retrieve Running Apps
Allows the app to retrieve information about currently and recently running tasks. This may allow the app to discover information about which applications are used on the device
Reason for this poll is to see if VVM is what is notifying AT&T of the "Tethering" Activities.
To clarify on the poll answers:
If you have VVM frozen then consider it as not having it installed.
i use vvm. i used foxfi and got the letter. sad.
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I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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When you say disabled, do you mean frozen or just installed but not using it?
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Have vvm and use it and have not gotten a letter when I tether my tab on sky-ice with built in tether
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I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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you have to call att to activate it. google voice works the same just too lazy. wish i never activated mine. lolz
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With AT&T VVM installed, I was using the built-in AOKP tethering and I got the letter.
I have VVM and have used the Clockworkmod Tether app, which does USB tethering, never gotten a letter.
Alright, you guys are going to love this. So I just called AT&T about the letter. I figured I'd stick with the "play dumb" approach. I said I didn't know what it was about and I couldn't figure out how to tether anyway. Blah blah blah.. he said that when tethering use is reported over the network, the technicians verify it through "multiple redundant verification". I told him that after we got the letter, I tried to see if I could tether and that my phone wouldn't let me. He then stated "well, there are lots of apps that can let you tether," and he proceeded to rattle off a prepared list of apps including FoxFi and a dozen or so others.
This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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This kind of meshes with a conversation I had the other day with my AT&T contact. He said that there's been a lot of effort lately put into finding rooted devices on the network and getting them off.
I think at this point we can safely say that any AT&T-provided stock app is to be considered spyware, and should be removed from the phone entirely (not frozen, deleted with phone caches wiped) the second you root.
That said, there's nothing stopping them from putting silent tracker apps elsewhere in the phone and hiding them completely. Here's the fun part: the contracts don't say anything about rooting the phone, do they? If they start kicking root users off the network or forcing us to change off of unlimited data because we've rooted our phone, they'd be begging for a class-action lawsuit.
That said, there's nothing stopping them from putting silent tracker apps elsewhere in the phone and hiding them completely. Here's the fun part: the contracts don't say anything about rooting the phone, do they? If they start kicking root users off the network or forcing us to change off of unlimited data because we've rooted our phone, they'd be begging for a class-action lawsuit.
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Especially when the US Supreme Court ruled that it was completely legal for us to root our phones. They just don't have to provide technical support for rooted phones.
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zomgjosho said:
I have VVM and have used the Clockworkmod Tether app, which does USB tethering, never gotten a letter.
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i went to the play store and it says skyrocket is not supported by this app. what's up with that?
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aycockonxion said:
Alright, you guys are going to love this. So I just called AT&T about the letter. I figured I'd stick with the "play dumb" approach. I said I didn't know what it was about and I couldn't figure out how to tether anyway. Blah blah blah.. he said that when tethering use is reported over the network, the technicians verify it through "multiple redundant verification". I told him that after we got the letter, I tried to see if I could tether and that my phone wouldn't let me. He then stated "well, there are lots of apps that can let you tether," and he proceeded to rattle off a prepared list of apps including FoxFi and a dozen or so others.
This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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but then what happens if you need to send the phone back for replacement?
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specter07 said:
When you say disabled, do you mean frozen or just installed but not using it?
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Like frozen. Hopefully by having it frozen I can avoid this slap.
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sly-tendencies said:
Like frozen. Hopefully by having it frozen I can avoid this slap.
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Delete it entirely using Tibu. VVM is not a critical system process, and I don't trust that app at all.
I've been going through a lot of AT&T apps and most of them have the spyware on them.
As for being able to know if you are running stock firmware or not, I'm shocked to hear that.
As a community I think it's safe to say that no AT&T app can be trusted. They are using something to be able to gather information, we just have to figure out what it is.
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Ahhh....this brings me back to the good old CIQ days......
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What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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droidbabyxda said:
but then what happens if you need to send the phone back for replacement?
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You'll have to do a proper restoration to stock.. I believe vincom has detailed this procedure.
T.J. Bender said:
Delete it entirely using Tibu. VVM is not a critical system process, and I don't trust that app at all.
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I agree 110%.
bps119 said:
What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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At this point I would encourage everyone to remove ALL AT&T apps from a rooted phone.
bps119 said:
What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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+1 Same question here too...
Sent from somewhere in Galaxy SII...
NoSpamDan said:
+1 Same question here too...
Sent from somewhere in Galaxy SII...
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It's pretty safe to assume that this and all current AT&T apps have spyware built in.