This is a widespread issue among thunderbolt users, but I haven't seen a thread here yet.
I haven't accepted the OTA update from earlier this week, but last night my phone booted with what I assume was a update. Now, any URL can only be directed to the Web browser, not an individual app (for example, Google play links link to the play website, not the app. Same with youtube links). There's not too much out there about it, but from what I've seen, this is due to a new patent lawsuit from apple directed at HTC. Apparently HTC laid down and just removed the function. This is terrible and pretty much ruins the phones functionality.
As of right now the only work around I've heard of is custom roms. Personally I don't have that option as this is a corporate phone. Has anyone heard anything or does anyone have any ideas for a work around? I imagine what would work would be a fake "browser" that you would set as the default and just would reroute to apps, but I certainly don't have the developing know-how to make such a thing.
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With the HTC One series, there's a new "App Associations" menu that allows you to assign what apps will be used for various link types... is there no equivalent in the new OTA update for the Thunderbolt?
After the update there is that setting in the applications menu under settings
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This is frustrating.
I updated to the software update and regret it to the fullest extent. Now NO videos of Youtube open in the app. This is a headache.
There is a new "apps association" menu in settings now, under Applications menu. But there is NO option to set YOUTUBE as a default like it used to be with ease.
Anybody here have a way around this??
What I found is using Opera Mini helps this by making it one less step to open videos in the app. But still miss the old direct way.
Help people!!
This is due to the patent judgment against HTC by Apple. The same judgment that recently delayed the release of the One X and the EVO 4G LTE. This feature will be removed in all future HTC releases.
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I went with browser swap, but that doesn't really help with YouTube links. Maybe someone will stand up and code an app?
ianargent said:
I went with browser swap, but that doesn't really help with YouTube links. Maybe someone will stand up and code an app?
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You can't. Apple patented the tech, all they will do is go after a new developer of such an app. Your best bet is to root, run titanium backup, and flash a custom rom that is based on an older Thunderbolt ROM if you want the feature back.
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You can't. Apple patented the tech, all they will do is go after a new developer of such an app. Your best bet is to root, run titanium backup, and flash a custom rom that is based on an older Thunderbolt ROM if you want the feature back.
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Or you edit the build prop and delete an HTC file in the system app directory, I saw it for the sense 3.x tons and.tried it on my tbolt and it worked. Google it.
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Or you edit the build prop and delete an HTC file in the system app directory, I saw it for the sense 3.x tons and.tried it on my tbolt and it worked. Google it.
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Does this require root?
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Without root, you can't delete system apps
ianargent said:
Without root, you can't delete system apps
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Got root? Yep.. all phones should be rooted and unlocked out the box.
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Google_Nexus said:
Got root? Yep.. all phones should be rooted and unlocked out the box.
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Unlocked, yes. Able to be rooted without an exploit, yes. With root enabled, no. I no longer log in on a admin account on my laptop for security reasons. The "default"use account should not have root
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Unlocked, yes. Able to be rooted without an exploit, yes. With root enabled, no. I no longer log in on a admin account on my laptop for security reasons. The "default"use account should not have root
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No always use an administrator account. Won't use anything less... That's how I roll......
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Kingnothing9 said:
This is a widespread issue among thunderbolt users, but I haven't seen a thread here yet.
I haven't accepted the OTA update from earlier this week, but last night my phone booted with what I assume was a update. Now, any URL can only be directed to the Web browser, not an individual app (for example, Google play links link to the play website, not the app. Same with youtube links). There's not too much out there about it, but from what I've seen, this is due to a new patent lawsuit from apple directed at HTC. Apparently HTC laid down and just removed the function. This is terrible and pretty much ruins the phones functionality.
As of right now the only work around I've heard of is custom roms. Personally I don't have that option as this is a corporate phone. Has anyone heard anything or does anyone have any ideas for a work around? I imagine what would work would be a fake "browser" that you would set as the default and just would reroute to apps, but I certainly don't have the developing know-how to make such a thing.
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That's not exactly some HTC key/core feature. It's in every Android phone and part of the Android source itself. Even the Galaxy Nexus does it. It's not even a phone specific feature. PCs have done it for years using file://some-local-filesystem-point and using sockets to link apps to other apps. That's all Android does pretty much. Since everyone should be rooted on here (the thunderbolt is painful if you don't), it doesn't affect anyone.
Also I see no source links in your post. Means nothing if you can't link to something verifiable.
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No always use an administrator account. Won't use anything less... That's how I roll......
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If you like working without a safety net, more power to you. I'd rather be safe than sorry, myself
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If you like working without a safety net, more power to you. I'd rather be safe than sorry, myself
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Gotta roll on the wild side.
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Without root, you can't delete system apps
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hi i am using htc salsa..i ve deleted all my system application unfortunately...any way to re install all the applications...if its possible please let me know..thanks in advance
daanniey said:
hi i am using htc salsa..i ve deleted all my system application unfortunately...any way to re install all the applications...if its possible please let me know..thanks in advance
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Mathiias said:
This is due to the patent judgment against HTC by Apple. The same judgment that recently delayed the release of the One X and the EVO 4G LTE. This feature will be removed in all future HTC releases.
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Apple said they should be the only one to make a smartphone and they are using the patent system to their advantage. I don't like it anymore then anyone else. Perhaps we should all send a letter to waz for him to become.the.next apple ceo and chairmen. He also uses android
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Related
For those who haven't seen the news that the Netflix apk was taken from the LG Revolution system dump I thought I'd provide the apk for anyone wanting it.
I'm assuming this isn't a violation in anyway, but if so I apologize.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/1...cation-pulled-from-lg-revolution-system-dump/
For those wishing to follow the development of this app on a general Android level I'll include the appropriate thread. Also I will try to provide updates as they come along, but if someone else catches it first let me know and I'll change the OP accordingly.
UPDATE (03-15-11): Now included is the DRM apk found within the LG Revolution. Credit given to cheebahawk over on the EVO forum. Also it is very likely this this will be a no-go given the DRM issue, but I have confidence that those who want this will try their hardest.
UPDATE (03-24-11): Attached is the new apk (com.netflix.mediaclient-2.apk) that auto-updated and included streaming on 03-23-11. However, Netflix has since shutdown streaming again. The attached files may still be useful.
UPDATE (03-27-11): Netflix has since completed shutdown access to their system from the Android app. Users are no longer able to access any functions of Netflix service.
UPDATE (03-28-11): Netflix has turned the service back on, so back functions have been restored. However, streaming is still a no-go.
Thanks man. Too bad we can't stream anything yet. The guys in the Evo thread have been trying to fix this problem and I hope they do.
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If it can't stream then what's the point of having it?
Does it download anything?
POQbum said:
If it can't stream then what's the point of having it?
Does it download anything?
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Mainly just the ability to edit your Instant Queue. Also once Netflix has the service up it "should" stream
Cant Wait for this! Should Be on the Thunderbolt as well if I remember correctly
The app keeps on FC'ing on my phone with CM7-RC1...sucks.
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The app keeps on FC'ing on my phone with CM7-RC1...sucks.
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If you'd actually read, it's not working. They are working on it so give it time. It's from a completely different system so it isn't hard to understand why it doesn't work.
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Like many already posted, i have it installed on my rooted incredible. Again you can manage your instant que only. When you try to stream you get the "1005 error." Excited to see what the Devs. can do!
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Like many already posted, i have it installed on my rooted incredible. Again you can manage your instant que only. When you try to stream you get the "1005 error." Excited to see what the Devs. can do!
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Seems like they're waiting for the service to actually go online. Only so much you can do with a non-available service :/
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Seems like they're waiting for the service to actually go online. Only so much you can do with a non-available service :/
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Actually from what I've herd from the Evo forums its a DRM issue that needs to fixed to make it work.
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Would love to have this app.
sms440 said:
Actually from what I've herd from the Evo forums its a DRM issue that needs to fixed to make it work.
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From my understanding of all that has been said about the Netflix app and what Netflix has said in the past, it requires a phone with a chip that has DRM baked in, so the chip in the Incredible and Evo isn't new enough and will not work unless they hack the app and bypass the DRM requirement. (Which begs the question of whether the phone can manage the DRM via software and keep up)
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If you'd actually read, it's not working. They are working on it so give it time. It's from a completely different system so it isn't hard to understand why it doesn't work.
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How nice of you to say, but some Inc users have been getting it to work. I understand it doesn't stream, but it closes after I login. I was just telling other people for reference.
Geeze...
gtcakes said:
How nice of you to say, but some Inc users have been getting it to work. I understand it doesn't stream, but it closes after I login. I was just telling other people for reference.
Geeze...
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Where is that DInc users have been getting it to work?
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From my understanding of all that has been said about the Netflix app and what Netflix has said in the past, it requires a phone with a chip that has DRM baked in, so the chip in the Incredible and Evo isn't new enough and will not work unless they hack the app and bypass the DRM requirement. (Which begs the question of whether the phone can manage the DRM via software and keep up)
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Exactly
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372656,00.asp
Happy reading.
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Where is that DInc users have been getting it to work?
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Mine works minus the streaming which is understand. I can view and search and edit my queue however.If I attempt to stream it says it could not contact the service and kicks me out to the main screen.
When I use it (streaming), it just loads, and loads, and loads.... no error anymore, it did at first, but now it just loads forever....
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I just love this app for checking my instant queue
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This plus playon.tv = awesome.
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Any word on an update on this? I think its netflix side on this based off the not able to receive info from server error and the netflix site saying Android (obsolete) under list of devices. Once the service goes live I think it should work.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/grab-new-android-market-app-while-its-hot
You might have heard that Google was rolling out a new Android Market, complete with book and movie rentals. You also might have heard it would coming in the next few weeks. Well thanks to an anonymous source (possibly with a time machine) you can grab it today.
Hit the download link, and install it from your SD card like any other app. Fair warning -- we don't know if there will be any complications from doing this, but we haven't seen any so far. Use your best judgement. Discuss it in the forums!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17742828/com.android.vending-1.apk
Haha I also posted this in isnspire app thread
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I have occasionally gotten an "error retrieving information from server" but other than that it seems to work.
XAviierG said:
Haha I also posted this in isnspire app thread
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Dadgummit,
I always forget about that.portion.of the forum because I never go in there.
Tx Redneck said:
Dadgummit,
I always forget about that.portion.of the forum because I never go in there.
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Haha same. Ill get a mod to delete mines so we can keep it simple and only this one
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Seems a little cluttered but i like it mostly. I'd recomend using something to backup your old market app in case this one doesnt work for anything, in the comments on that post some people said they were having problems uninstalling/updating apps.
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Seems a little cluttered but i like it mostly. I'd recomend using something to backup your old market app in case this one doesnt work for anything, in the comments on that post some people said they were having problems uninstalling/updating apps.
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I had no problem uninstalling apps. Haven't tried updating yet.
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Yeah, I just uninstalled and installed an app no problem too. But all of my apps are up to date so I don't know about updating.
Do y'all have the video/movie tab?
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I think this is a beta and the movie tab will be in the next update they're not done with it.
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Kinda reminescent of wp7, what with the tiles and sidescrolling and such. Love It!
I haven't run into any problems updating Apps so far
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neither have i, actually as soon as I installed it the updates started rolling in
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I haven't run into any problems updating Apps so far
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awesome looks cool by any chance anyone running Ninja 7061 and using the new market place.
? though since I have the stander market how would I save the .apk for that so just in case I dont like this one? Also do I just add the this new .apk like any other .apk file, I use Android Side Load Wonder Machine when I install .apks
CYRAXDroid said:
Also do I just add the this new .apk like any other .apk file, I use Android Side Load Wonder Machine when I install .apks
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Why bother with any software or plugging your phone in to install an APK? It all seems a bit unnecessary. I just chrome-to-phoned the dropbox URL and bam app installed.
CYRAXDroid said:
awesome looks cool by any chance anyone running Ninja 7061 and using the new market place.
? though since I have the stander market how would I save the .apk for that so just in case I dont like this one? Also do I just add the this new .apk like any other .apk file, I use Android Side Load Wonder Machine when I install .apks
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If your running tpgb ninja your rooted, so you don't need the sideload machine, just go to settings>applications>and check unknown sources. Then put this apk on your sd card and use file manager (an app installed in ninja) to select it and install.
Oh, and i am running ninja 7061. but i think i might just go back to stock CM
FOr people who want old market follow these steps:
(Originally Posted By:Chris Chavez of Phandroid)
Go into your phone’s Settings
Select “Manage Applications”
Select the “All” tab at the top
Scroll down to Market app and select it
Select “Uninstall Updates”
Now have your old Market back!
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If that fails, install gapps via rom manager>download ROM>gapps
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Why bother with any software or plugging your phone in to install an APK? It all seems a bit unnecessary. I just chrome-to-phoned the dropbox URL and bam app installed.
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Cool. Going to try this sometime. I hadn't heard of this method for installing .apk's.
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Cool. Going to try this sometime. I hadn't heard of this method for installing .apk's.
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It's not a "method" really, it's just.. installing the app, the same way you would any APK. Doesn't matter how you get the url to the APK to your phone (email, chrome to phone, typing it in by hand).
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It's not a "method" really, it's just.. installing the app, the same way you would any APK. Doesn't matter how you get the url to the APK to your phone (email, chrome to phone, typing it in by hand).
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Well I call it a method so nah! . I just hadn't thought of using it that way.
I've had my One S for about a week now, coming from a Nexus S. I was pretty blessed with the vanilla updates, but was excited to use the best yet Sense 4. But one of the few gripes I have about this stock ROM is that when I click youtube, instagram or other links that have their own apps, I have no option to "complete action using..." And it kicks me to the web browser every time.
Have you noticed this? If you have, have you found a solution? Or a workaround at least?
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I have noticed this, and I've noticed that when I click a Play Store link that it brings me to the web page instead of asking if I want to use the app instead. I've cleared defaults from my browser several times, nothing works. I'm pretty sure that it worked before, though, so I'm stumped.
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Droidificator said:
I have noticed this, and I've noticed that when I click a Play Store link that it brings me to the web page instead of asking if I want to use the app instead. I've cleared defaults from my browser several times, nothing works. I'm pretty sure that it worked before, though, so I'm stumped.
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What browser are you using? I downloaded the Chrome Beta immediately after setting up the phone so I have no experience with the stock browser. Are you using the stock browser?
I'm also using Chrome, which I suspect might be the culprit, but I haven't had the time to uninstall and test.
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This is a probelm with the updated Sense. App Associations only lets you pick a browser to open urls.
If any of you can call HTC or go and send them a report on their website it would help, I have a Rezound and the problem has been there with every ICS leak. I filled out a support ticket but don't have a One device.
I have had no problems at all with this, I'm using chrome. I have been able to open play store as well
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root the phone, delete htclinkifydispatcher.apk from /system/app, clear defaults for the browser, reboot. youtube, play store links, etc will prompt what to open when you click on them.
I tried to freeze that app, using TB. But now Google search widget doesn't work.
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root the phone, delete htclinkifydispatcher.apk from /system/app, clear defaults for the browser, reboot. youtube, play store links, etc will prompt what to open when you click on them.
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yeah, using root browser, wont let me delete that, keeps on failing.
went into titanium backup and froze it, now no links open, there is no prompt.
hope its that easy
This fix worked for me, in that it allowed me to open links to the market through webpages. However, it seems to create a new problem -- it breaks QR code scanners...
Looks like this may be happening on all HTC phones: http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/550016-app-associations-screwed-my-phone-up.html. From what I have read, this is due to the Apple lawsuit. Given that the lawsuit only dealt with US users, I wonder if European versions are having this problem.
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yeah, using root browser, wont let me delete that, keeps on failing.
went into titanium backup and froze it, now no links open, there is no prompt.
hope its that easy
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After freezing it, were you able to still use the Google Search widget?
It looks like links directed to the old Market actually open to the Play Store. It's just newer links to http://play.google.com/store that take you straight to the browser.
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This fix worked for me, in that it allowed me to open links to the market through webpages. However, it seems to create a new problem -- it breaks QR code scanners...
Looks like this may be happening on all HTC phones: http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/550016-app-associations-screwed-my-phone-up.html. From what I have read, this is due to the Apple lawsuit. Given that the lawsuit only dealt with US users, I wonder if European versions are having this problem.
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No, my phone does not have this issue, UK unbranded.
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Yeah, I started that thread over on Android forums.
I'm kinda glad to see that I'm not the only one having these problems.
I'm running a Thunderbolt. Just got the update (both my wife and I).
Now both of ours are having this problem.
I've searched and finally narrowed it down to the new App Associations section.
I don't think it has anything to do with which browser is used.
It just now forces all 'Web URLs' to use the browser as opposed to an installed app.
I don't know how extensive this is, and who all is going to be affected by it, but it's definitely a major issue. It destroyed the usability of this phone.
I'm can't root my wife's or my own phone. There's got to be a work around. Or they've got to be releasing a revised update. This couldn't have been done on purpose. The phone worked beautifully before, integrating all the apps that I had. Now everything I do is screwed up. Nothing is working how it's supposed to.
If it's any help...I have an HTC Thunderbolt through Verizon. Stock Rom.
Is this new App Association thing affecting all Androids? Is it something that was updated across the board, or only on specific devices/ or specific carriers? I've been banging my head against a wall trying to figure this all out for the last three days, and it seems like no one knows what I'm talking about, and my posts are invisible. I've been going crazy.
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There is another thread that goes into the specifics of what is going on and why...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26259679
Linking to here...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/friday-folly-htc-changes-u-s-android-phones-to-avoid-injunction/7889
Looks like HTC got sued, so those of us in the US with an HTC product got screwed.
They are avoiding legal issues, be removing an Apple Patented process for detection of things which can open apps that are installed on the phone.
Without this, the phone is junk to me. It makes it wholly unusable and takes literally at least 3-4 times longer to complete my tasks.
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Looks like HTC got sued, so those of us in the US with an HTC product got screwed.
They are avoiding legal issues, be removing an Apple Patented process for detection of things which can open apps that are installed on the phone.
Without this, the phone is junk to me. It makes it wholly unusable and takes literally at least 3-4 times longer to complete my tasks.
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There's not going to be an unrooted work around. You have some choices, but they all require you to learn to live with it, root, or get a different phone.
I am an angry consumer, and I punish companies that screw with me by not doing business with them, and encouraging others to avoid then as well. I've also been known to fire off an angry letter, or phone call to the offending party. Apple isn't worried about you or me, so that's wasted effort in this case. What's left is punishing HTC by not buying their products, but it's too late in both our cases, so basically call or write them telling them to "fu***ng pay Apple for the patent license and fix our phones". This App Associations bs ain't cutting it to keep us happy. Like you I don't want to root, but I think it may be the only way, unless a ****-ton of us tell HTC to fix it, it's going to stay the same.
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There is a work around, at least for YouTube links. Install the app Flashify. Share the YouTube link to it and select the YouTube app
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I'm using a custom rom & now its back to normal asking me "complete action using"
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AttachedSilver said:
I'm using a custom rom & now its back to normal asking me "complete action using"
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If your custom rom is euro based, this makes sense. They were not part of the trademark infringement case brought by those idiots at Apple, so they don't have the app management workaround that is causing all the problems.
Does your custom rom have signal problems? As I recall, that was an issue being reported by tmous customers who tried some of the euro roms.
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If your custom rom is euro based, this makes sense. They were not part of the trademark infringement case brought by those idiots at Apple, so they don't have the app management workaround that is causing all the problems.
Does your custom rom have signal problems? As I recall, that was an issue being reported by tmous customers who tried some of the euro roms.
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Yes, its euro based. I went with it because of the app association. Well I've been using it for a while now and I have no problems with it. I've read about a "data bug" but have no problems with signal or using the mobile data.
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I can't get this to work for me, I have tried renaming and deleting, nothing works.
I did an antivirus scan today, and now there is a trojan.android os agent B coming up under verizon sso engine. Install date is the date that I did the latest verizon update. Any one know anything about this?
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I did an antivirus scan today, and now there is a trojan.android os agent B coming up under verizon sso engine. Install date is the date that I did the latest verizon update. Any one know anything about this?
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Reset phone to stock, reformat as.card as well. If using a.rooted phone download.a.stock rooted..19 Rom And format attend area and boot, and data, cache and all then flash a.rooted .19 Rom that is stock.....
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Are you rooted?
No not rooted stock.
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No not rooted stock.
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If you're stock, the Verizon SSO app is factory and likely not compromised. Antivirus scans will generally return a positive for apps that have interaction with your phone's system level, or that gather or store personal information and transmit it elsewhere. In this case, unless you downloaded apps from sources besides Google play, it's very likely a false positive. Verizon SSO (single sign on) is a factory app from your carrier designed to save your log in credentials for use in all of your installed Verizon apps.
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Thank you for the info
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If you're stock, the Verizon SSO app is factory and likely not compromised. Antivirus scans will generally return a positive for apps that have interaction with your phone's system level, or that gather or store personal information and transmit it elsewhere. In this case, unless you downloaded apps from sources besides Google play, it's very likely a false positive. Verizon SSO (single sign on) is a factory app from your carrier designed to save your log in credentials for use in all of your installed Verizon apps.
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Well remember last year Google pulled about 100 apps from the market that had hidden payloads and malware.... So we can't really trust Google anymore then we can trust ms windows. My trend micro does not detect the ask from vzw.
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Google_Nexus said:
Well remember last year Google pulled about 100 apps from the market that had hidden payloads and malware.... So we can't really trust Google anymore then we can trust ms windows. My trend micro does not detect the ask from vzw.
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Yeah. I remember that, that's why I said "very likely". What I was really getting at is that malware detection apps for mobiles, unlike those for pcs, aren't very sophisticated and often rely on shaky criteria to separate malicious apps from trustworthy ones. Any app downloaded really has the potential to be malicious. Best thing to do is try to stick with apps from top developers (and make sure that top app is theirs as there are imposter apps too) or with download counts in the tens of thousands, it's more likely that those apps have been closely scrutinized by Google and others as any potential malware would affect a larger number of users.
BTW: your screen name is Google_Nexus... So why not get a nexus and have the ICS/ JB you want that way? Not being belligerent, just asking is all. Slim chance of either release for this phone any time soon.
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Alright guys,
As most of you may already know, AT&T has been sending letters out claiming that users are tethering. I want to start a poll and see out of all you that received this letter or text. How many of you have AT&T Visual Voice Mail installed on your phone. Doesn't matter if you use it or not.
Reason being is that if you guys haven't seen the permissions for VVM this is what two of them are:
Network Communication:
View Network Connections
Allows the app to view information about network connections such as which networks exist and are connected
System Tools
Retrieve Running Apps
Allows the app to retrieve information about currently and recently running tasks. This may allow the app to discover information about which applications are used on the device
Reason for this poll is to see if VVM is what is notifying AT&T of the "Tethering" Activities.
To clarify on the poll answers:
If you have VVM frozen then consider it as not having it installed.
i use vvm. i used foxfi and got the letter. sad.
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I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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sly-tendencies said:
I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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When you say disabled, do you mean frozen or just installed but not using it?
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Have vvm and use it and have not gotten a letter when I tether my tab on sky-ice with built in tether
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sly-tendencies said:
I have it disabled because I could never figure how to use it. I've been using foxfi for months and I haven't gotten a letter or text yet.
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you have to call att to activate it. google voice works the same just too lazy. wish i never activated mine. lolz
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With AT&T VVM installed, I was using the built-in AOKP tethering and I got the letter.
I have VVM and have used the Clockworkmod Tether app, which does USB tethering, never gotten a letter.
Alright, you guys are going to love this. So I just called AT&T about the letter. I figured I'd stick with the "play dumb" approach. I said I didn't know what it was about and I couldn't figure out how to tether anyway. Blah blah blah.. he said that when tethering use is reported over the network, the technicians verify it through "multiple redundant verification". I told him that after we got the letter, I tried to see if I could tether and that my phone wouldn't let me. He then stated "well, there are lots of apps that can let you tether," and he proceeded to rattle off a prepared list of apps including FoxFi and a dozen or so others.
This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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This kind of meshes with a conversation I had the other day with my AT&T contact. He said that there's been a lot of effort lately put into finding rooted devices on the network and getting them off.
I think at this point we can safely say that any AT&T-provided stock app is to be considered spyware, and should be removed from the phone entirely (not frozen, deleted with phone caches wiped) the second you root.
That said, there's nothing stopping them from putting silent tracker apps elsewhere in the phone and hiding them completely. Here's the fun part: the contracts don't say anything about rooting the phone, do they? If they start kicking root users off the network or forcing us to change off of unlimited data because we've rooted our phone, they'd be begging for a class-action lawsuit.
That said, there's nothing stopping them from putting silent tracker apps elsewhere in the phone and hiding them completely. Here's the fun part: the contracts don't say anything about rooting the phone, do they? If they start kicking root users off the network or forcing us to change off of unlimited data because we've rooted our phone, they'd be begging for a class-action lawsuit.
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Especially when the US Supreme Court ruled that it was completely legal for us to root our phones. They just don't have to provide technical support for rooted phones.
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zomgjosho said:
I have VVM and have used the Clockworkmod Tether app, which does USB tethering, never gotten a letter.
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i went to the play store and it says skyrocket is not supported by this app. what's up with that?
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aycockonxion said:
Alright, you guys are going to love this. So I just called AT&T about the letter. I figured I'd stick with the "play dumb" approach. I said I didn't know what it was about and I couldn't figure out how to tether anyway. Blah blah blah.. he said that when tethering use is reported over the network, the technicians verify it through "multiple redundant verification". I told him that after we got the letter, I tried to see if I could tether and that my phone wouldn't let me. He then stated "well, there are lots of apps that can let you tether," and he proceeded to rattle off a prepared list of apps including FoxFi and a dozen or so others.
This is where it got interesting. He proceeded to tell me that according to their technicians, "You're not even using the stock firmware". I replied, "the what whatter?" (sticking with my "play dumb" approach) and he responded, "You know, the stock operating system that came with your phone or that AT&T updated over the air."
If you use their apps, they can see everything. And it can't be long before they figure out a way to see everything without secretly spying on you with an app.
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but then what happens if you need to send the phone back for replacement?
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specter07 said:
When you say disabled, do you mean frozen or just installed but not using it?
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Like frozen. Hopefully by having it frozen I can avoid this slap.
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sly-tendencies said:
Like frozen. Hopefully by having it frozen I can avoid this slap.
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Delete it entirely using Tibu. VVM is not a critical system process, and I don't trust that app at all.
I've been going through a lot of AT&T apps and most of them have the spyware on them.
As for being able to know if you are running stock firmware or not, I'm shocked to hear that.
As a community I think it's safe to say that no AT&T app can be trusted. They are using something to be able to gather information, we just have to figure out what it is.
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Ahhh....this brings me back to the good old CIQ days......
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What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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droidbabyxda said:
but then what happens if you need to send the phone back for replacement?
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You'll have to do a proper restoration to stock.. I believe vincom has detailed this procedure.
T.J. Bender said:
Delete it entirely using Tibu. VVM is not a critical system process, and I don't trust that app at all.
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I agree 110%.
bps119 said:
What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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At this point I would encourage everyone to remove ALL AT&T apps from a rooted phone.
bps119 said:
What's everyone's thoughts on the myatt app used to pay bills, see usage details and the like?
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+1 Same question here too...
Sent from somewhere in Galaxy SII...
NoSpamDan said:
+1 Same question here too...
Sent from somewhere in Galaxy SII...
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It's pretty safe to assume that this and all current AT&T apps have spyware built in.