I am an unfortunate owner of an HTC sensation. This phone has many frustrating issues but there is one that i find unacceptable. According to HTC all Sensations when playing specific videos and having the brightness set to maximum will have it significantly changed. To my observation that is almost 50%. Users report similar behaviour in the galery and youtube applications.
In my country a device is considered faulty when (1) its not suitable to be used as intended, (2) not suitable to be used as similar products in the market or (3) it does not have the performance the customer expects.
(1) My phone is intended to be used as a multimedia phone hence the big screen and resolution. When the exterior light is more than enough it is made very dificult to me to watch videos because the device arbitrarily lowers the brightness. (2) No other products have similar behaviour in the market to my knowledge and of course (3) i do not expect my phone to reduce the brightness when i set it to be stable to a specific brightness.
HTC says theres nothing they can do. They also told be this issue is caused because of the light sensor. I dont understand why the ligh sensor has anything to do with it since it is only supposed to work when the brighness is set to automatic.
My question is, Really HTC? You think you can sell me an expensive device and have that poor a performance? And your answer is since every device has this issue it is not a problem? I dont know if theres anything we can do so i would like your opinions too.
solution -> quickpic as gallery and mx video player as default video player
is that really hard?
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solution -> quickpic as gallery and mx video player as default video player
is that really hard?
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I was expecting that answer. It doesnt work. And im not willing to root my phone either.
I know your not willing to root your device but I must give you my HONEST opinion. Rooting has made my device 150% better! The choices of Roms are spectacular, they have a rom to fit most everyone's taste. The Roms give the NEWEST softwares , example I'm ruining sence 4 with Android 4.0.3, the mods are Amazing, changing so many little things to make your device look unique! I have to say the ROMS run much better than the stock os. No random rebooting, smooth, fast ! You can change your kernels too for a over all better experience! Rooting has brought my device to life! So do I have any complaints, nope, I'm loveing my S off rooted device with custom Rom! If I don't like something, I just change it. That's the beauty of a rooted device. Your not stuck with something you don't like. I'm sorry your experience is poor with the sensation. I must say I have just the opposite. My experience is a rich wonderful experience and we have the same device, except I'm rooted. So if you want to change your experience then root, if not, well, it's up to you....good luck in what ever you choose.
But I think if you rooted you would have a better experience all together. But if that's not a option maybe find a different device to better suit your needs. That's the only other alternative I can think of. Everyone is different and we all have different opinions. I wish you the best of luck in what ever you decide. This is just my opinion and my experience. We are all different. Perhaps the sensation just isn't for you!
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I doubt there is anything we can do, as the last person suggested....root the phone and change what you want.....I root all of mine and am extremely happy because I make it my phone not just your average Sensation....if not just see if you can get a different phone if you just bought this one and its faulty do what they call a warranty exchange that's how I ended up with a sensation
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I just wanted to mention, if you get any ICS based ROM's, you can disable auto brightness and set to full brightness manually (you only ever need this is outside in direct sunlight). My device is always on the lowest brightness or half.
Example of quick and easy changing from notification pull down.
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The dissapointing thing about the sensation is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
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Once you go root you never go back
The first time you ever root your device and experience for yourself all the things you can do you can see that you have a completly different device.
Also with any device no matter what company, it is always limited. so whichever phone you have you will end up rooting
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It's weird there are only very few who mentioned brightness problem when playing youtube or gallery. I had the same issue after upgrading to Android Revolution HD custom ROM (ICS). With Android 2.3.4 stock I did not experienced this. I also do not like REPETITIVE sound notification for the SAME EMAIL each time it does sync.. After another shot - installing Android Revolution HD - it seems the brightness problem is gone.
HTC is going to release single core phones:
HTC Desire VT
HTC Desire VC
HTC Desire V
HTC Desire C
and it comes with ICS and Sense 4. Now this is truly HTC undervaluing earlier devices. Time to hit them harder...
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The dissapointing thing about the sensation is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
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The dissapointing thing about ANY smartphone is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
Anyway, I love to root my devices and install on them what I really want, and not just using what manufacturers think it's better for me.
To be honest any and every smartphone has to be tweaked by consumer to get the experience best suited by the customer.
iPhone has to have a jailbreak to get satisfaction for alot of people, and I don't know about windows phone and what they do with that os.
In my opinion if you choose not to fix your own problem then how can you blame the company who made the phone?
when you have options in front of you and dont like your options why not buy a different phone because o know many of us with a rooted sensation have a great experience my phone is fast I have noo problems watching video I use the app mobo player and it works great everywhere.
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I completely agree with above statement! It's really up to you! You have the opportunity to make a change and customize to your liking however you choose not to do this. The Sensation has a wonderful ability to be totally customized to the consumers liking all the way from firmware to operating system, down to kernels and mods! You can ťweak the device however you like! In my opinion, that's a great device. If you have the know how or can read a guide the possiabilitys are endless! So actually your not looking at the ability of the device. Your looking at the surface. Dig deeper and you will develop a new respect for this device, or at least you should because it's capability is great ! Also once it's customized to your liking you will find there's nothing out there like it, It's truly yours. I'm completely happy with my customized device. If you don't take the time to customize and your unhappy, whos fault is that? It's your own. The tools are available to you to change your experience. It's really all up to YOU!
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The dissapointing thing about ANY smartphone is that you HAVE to root to get an experience you would expect in stock.
Anyway, I love to root my devices and install on them what I really want, and not just using what manufacturers think it's better for me.
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Except for th iPhone. It works just like they say it works...
I don't blame HTC, I blame tmobile for making me sign a two year and not offering the iPhone.
Just wait for the iPhone 5 to release...See ya Htc and tmobile!
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I completely agree with above statement! It's really up to you! You have the opportunity to make a change and customize to your liking however you choose not to do this. The Sensation has a wonderful ability to be totally customized to the consumers liking all the way from firmware to operating system, down to kernels and mods! You can ťweak the device however you like! In my opinion, that's a great device. If you have the know how or can read a guide the possiabilitys are endless! So actually your not looking at the ability of the device. Your looking at the surface. Dig deeper and you will develop a new respect for this device, or at least you should because it's capability is great ! Also once it's customized to your liking you will find there's nothing out there like it, It's truly yours. I'm completely happy with my customized device. If you don't take the time to customize and your unhappy, whos fault is that? It's your own. The tools are available to you to change your experience. It's really all up to YOU!
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I dont disagree with what you said. But rooting is unofficial and voids warranty. Plus most people dont have the knowledge on how to root or want to take the risk to root. What about those people who are stuck with ICS? You cant really blame them.
Its a constant war out there to make our phones better every day. With Custom ROM's bringing the best of all worlds onto our phones. It'll probably take HTC/Samsung/etc ages to do things what the devs are doing. Thanks to them.
We pay for the hardware and its up to u to put whatever software - kernel/rom/mods u want on that hardware. This is the main reason u go for Android
Read through the posts properly, and then the probability of failed/bricked devices is less and u can be really happy with ur device's performance/usablilty/looks etc
If u have any doubts people in this forum are ready to help(once u have searched in the forum and have not found anything or u are confused about something)
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I dont disagree with what you said. But rooting is unofficial and voids warranty. Plus most people dont have the knowledge on how to root or want to take the risk to root. What about those people who are stuck with ICS? You cant really blame them.
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You can unroot your phone there is still a chance that they will see that have unlocked boot before but they might not
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Except for th iPhone. It works just like they say it works...
I don't blame HTC, I blame tmobile for making me sign a two year and not offering the iPhone.
Just wait for the iPhone 5 to release...See ya Htc and tmobile!
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If iPhone is so incredible to fullfill anyone expectations out of the box, then why people jailbreak it?
Sensation was a great phone out of the box to me, but if I can make it better by rooting, why not?
I think you not only miss your device selection, you missed your operator too
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I dont disagree with what you said. But rooting is unofficial and voids warranty. Plus most people dont have the knowledge on how to root or want to take the risk to root. What about those people who are stuck with ICS? You cant really blame them.
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Yes rooting is unofficial however in my opnion the custom roms, although unofficial are FAR MORE STABLE than the official stock roms! They are built with the user experience in mind much more so than the stock Rom.as for rooting, yes I believe it must be something that's interesting to the person and they have to desire to do it. If the desire is not there than it probably should not be attempted.
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To be honest cm9 is coming so ill go to that
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I know that is the minority opinion but I'm really happy with the device the way it is , sense 3.0,has its quirks but as long as they upgrade the software and make the device rock solid I really don't care if we get it or not ....now don't get me wrong if we do ill be a flashing fool ,but I'm really enjoying the device for what it is
Yes. Same here. I would definitely be a lot happier once it is s-off. But I am really happy I have this phone.
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You're not alone. I'm very satisfied with this phone the way it is. If I could just uninstall a lot of useless apps without the need of rooting, then I wouldn't even bother with rooting it.
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I know that is the minority opinion but I'm really happy with the device the way it is , sense 3.0,has its quirks but as long as they upgrade the software and make the device rock solid I really don't care if we get it or not ....now don't get me wrong if we do ill be a flashing fool ,but I'm really enjoying the device for what it is
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Agreed... For me there is really no need. However I never mind a nice overclock
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I'm also 100% satisfied with my device. I am also a crackflasher though LOL! Also I want all this bloatware off the phone and some custom kernel so we can get alot better battery life. Plus, I think a AOSP rom would make this phone blazingggggggg fast. I just like the oprtion to switch. With that being said I'm still obsessed with getting S off
I agree
I would like the next HTC update (slight speed up), but the default rom is pretty bug free and excellent for me!
Ahh. I hate sense and really miss my nexus ine vanilla. Its just so much smoother andbit was a slower phone with less ram. I love the sensation but it can get so much better that I can't wait for s off
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Agreed. Happy here.
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The only reason I want s-off is so I can debrand, other than that Im more than happy with the phone and stock firmware
true, but..
WE NEED ROOT !
My amazing device is lacking a basic ability like taking a screenshot .
it's totaly crazy !
And don't get me started on RTL fixes for my HEBREW language..
I agreed I like sense 3.0... All I need is adfree, sdcard increase, shootme. all bloatware like the Nova Demo gone and my phone would be complete.
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I agree as well. The device isn't bad the way it is. I think most people just want the ability to remove bloat apps we'll never use. Apparently Sprint is doing that with their new devices. I wish that was the case with all Android devices.
I could use me some AdFree though... I can't stand all the ads.
For once...
I'm not missing having root. Sure the device could be a tad bit more responsive when doing things but i'm certain that those little things will be fixed with a software update. Right now my thunderbolt seems to launch things just as fast, if not just a hair faster but i'm thinking it has to do with Sense 3.0 and not underpowered hardware. I've used quite a bit of android devices and this one is the first to not get bogged down from doing too many things at once. I can easily hop from a game to gmail, to a phone call, to the market, and back to game without the device skipping a beat and going right back into the paused game. It's very impressive. Sure it gets hot, and it has dust in the screen, but so far it's proven to be one powerhouse of a phone and i'm glad I purchased it.
i'm cool as long as they send some updates out.
I want root so I can have my Titanium Backup restored! I have over 175 applications that I will have to manually install!
S-on is the only reason that's keeping me from buying this phone.
I must have a root fix...it's an addiction!
Well one thing this phone has done is shut my wife up ,she hated my hd2 because I flashed a new Rom or updated like every other day .....she's praying we don't get s-off ,either way I'm glad I have the phone
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Well one thing this phone has done is shut my wife up ,she hated my hd2 because I flashed a new Rom or updated like every other day .....she's praying we don't get s-off ,either way I'm glad I have the phone
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LOL...been there done that.
Sensation is the best android phone I've had so far, I don't see how rooting it will benefit. It's already fast, apps2sd, pre installed screen shot, reboot, skins and themes +...
Only thing missing is bloat, CPU, overclocking, and ad remover, I can do with out.
Anyone care to differ? Lol
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Sensation is the best android phone I've had so far, I don't see how rooting it will benefit. It's already fast, apps2sd, pre installed screen shot, reboot, skins and themes +...
Only thing missing is bloat, CPU, overclocking, and ad remover, I can do with out.
Anyone care to differ? Lol
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Those are the reasons I rooted, and to try different Roms and get the Beats Audio onto my normal sensation
The main reason I wanted root was to use titanium backup to restore apps/data from my hd2. Overclocking on this phone wasn't necessary for me and I don't care about the bloat as long as they don't insist on running.
Adfree is a bonus, so is hacking letsgolf to give you a million dollars
Rooting is very useful as many apps require it. I would've been satisfied with temp root, but my phone came with the update already applied and I couldn't use it.
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Sensation is the best android phone I've had so far, I don't see how rooting it will benefit. It's already fast, apps2sd, pre installed screen shot, reboot, skins and themes +...
Only thing missing is bloat, CPU, overclocking, and ad remover, I can do with out.
Anyone care to differ? Lol
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Another reason I rooted is to use apps like:
Led me know - extends led time
Auto starts - controls which apps start up, etc
Market enabler - download apps from other countries
Tons more apps work better with root by unlocking more features and giving more control and customization.
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If you're happy with Stock, there probably isn't a compelling reason for you to root. Why go through all the time and hassle, right?
For me, it was a quest to improve battery life. Stock ROM for me was awful. I couldn't seem to get through a 8-10 work day with light-to-moderate use without having to recharge. I know for some this is acceptable, but I had a hard time reconciling my times with what some others where reporting (20+ hrs with same usage).
When I had my iPhone, the only compelling reason I jailbroke it was to get wifi hotspot functionality.
Maybe you just haven't found that one "thing" you can't live without, yet.
I have a rooted functional G1 still, and a mytouch slide, I just wanted to see what people thought now about rooting, and the sensation, especially since newer phones have a lot more options.
I did forget to mention hotspot lol, as far as the battery, I have 3 and always carry one around with me
I just found out about the screen shot that's pre installed few days ago. I've tried all the apps and purchased one that works w.o root lol, Roms, mods, themes ect... Can be a bit to much. I'm a home screen freak I change every thing from widgets to icons daily lol. One of the best features imo.
Only thing lacking is the ability to remove stock apps. I'm not sure if I want to go through all the trouble of rooting just for that lol
I also use dropbox and 4shared to save apps and use at another time, with out using phone memory, uploading from the phone is pretty sweet lol
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Maybe you just haven't found that one "thing" you can't live without, yet.
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that is a very good answer to the OP
I'm in the same situation where my 1 week old sensation is on stock. It's seems to tick all boxes at the moment so I don't really feel the need to take the risk and root. Apart from custom roms I haven't really seen the need, but I'm sure that will all change soon once I get more familiar with the phone. I remember with my hd2 the first day I got it I changed Rom as the development is still great there
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Why not root? That's the real question.
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Why not root? That's the real question.
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Cuz it's a pain. There isn't an easy way to do it like there was for WM 6.5 or iOS for that matter.
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jlczl said:
Cuz it's a pain. There isn't an easy way to do it like there was for WM 6.5 or iOS for that matter.
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It depends what type of phone you have, some require a pc, adb knowledge, and some other stuff, others have easy root apps that seem to work best before the update lol.
I think Droids are probably the easiest to root, or any phone with 2.2 lol
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Cuz it's a pain. There isn't an easy way to do it like there was for WM 6.5 or iOS for that matter.
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No simple? I rooted this phone within 20 minutes after getting it yesterday! I followed the instructions for revolutionary and now I'm on AR 4.1.x and my phone is underlocked @800Mhz. The battery is awesome plus the speed is astounding.
It depends on how you look at it;
Why Root?
- You get total control over system files, permissions and applications. You can do pretty much anything. You can flash custom ROM's, overclock the phone, get rid of bloatware and so on... Basically rooting brings you total freedom.
Why not to root?
- You will not receive official HTC software updates after you've rooted. The only way to install these is to download them from here, and do it manually. You risk bricking the phone every time you manually install something (altho, if you know what you're doing the risks are quite small). If you install a custom ROM you will most likely have many bugs, and some functions do not work. If you overclock you will shorten the life-span of your phone & the phone battery, which is the biggest problem.
You'll need to consider all of these things before you do anything. I've decided to stick with the stock ROM because Sensation is so expensive and I really don't want to shorten it's life-span.
I want to Root cuz i want to be Administrator of my 500$ gadget that i paid for.. I don't want HTC to dictate me what not to remove or what not to change...
Like!!!
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I want to Root cuz i want to be Administrator of my 500$ gadget that i paid for.. I don't want HTC to dictate me what not to remove or what not to change...
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Ace42 said:
No simple? I rooted this phone within 20 minutes after getting it yesterday!
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OK. It worked for you...... But it doesn't work that well for everyone. I used to switch ROMS multiple times a day at times on WM and I 1-click jailbroke multiple iOS devices. I had an HD2 running multiple awesome ROMS and dual booting Android (which was awesome), but rooting this phone proved many times more difficult than any of that. So much so that I finally said, "Why bother? It's awesome as is anyway!"
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No simple? I rooted this phone within 20 minutes after getting it yesterday! I followed the instructions for revolutionary and now I'm on AR 4.1.x and my phone is underlocked @800Mhz. The battery is awesome plus the speed is astounding.
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woah, 20 minutes? Thanks to the devs here, they make it SO much easier. My htc magic was a pain to root and follow cause of the bajillion diff radios/SPL's!
I took probably like 5 and another 5 or so figuring out how to sim-unlock it!
Another reason to root is to save yourself a couple bones by rooting it and unlocking the phone!
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woah, 20 minutes? Thanks to the devs here, they make it SO much easier. My htc magic was a pain to root and follow cause of the bajillion diff radios/SPL's!
I took probably like 5 and another 5 or so figuring out how to sim-unlock it!
Another reason to root is to save yourself a couple bones by rooting it and unlocking the phone!
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He said he rooted within 20 mins of getting the phone in hand......
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He said he rooted within 20 mins of getting the phone in hand......
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Thats including having to turn it on, signing in, standing in amazement of the beautiful phone in his hands for 15 mins... lol
In all seriousness the main reason for rooting for me was to get CM7, Sense is beautiful but I love CM7 so much. Another was the kernels xD They improve the device soooooooo much even if you are on stock they make the Sensation even better [yes its possible (;]
In the end its all up to what you want, if you dont find a reason then you can just leave it stock
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
leyus said:
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
Hello my friends,
i am so happy to buy the Sensation. Ok its have little problems but whitch phone have it not??
Befor i install a Custom Rom it´s work fine and fast but this was not enough for me (my girlfriend was contented with the stock rom) and with the new Rom it´s going more faster and more batterylife on day.
And are you interessted to play little bit with the Sensation you get a beautiful Smartphone.
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
kboater said:
I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
MartijnGP said:
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
[email protected]$oLiD said:
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
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Will do but after 3 ROM-s (stock, coredroid, MIUI) I am disappointed with results, and I don't think you should start using your phone from buying battery it is just not right, but simply don't have other option with Sensation.
csd181 said:
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Unless you need some kind of root only working app like tethering there is no point in doing it I think so don't root it. Sense sucks on both stock and custom ROM, as I already rooted mine I will try 2-3 more ROM-s but I think unrooting and selling this phone is best choice for me
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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No one bothered with CM7 or AOSP as it was clear ICS would be around very soon when the Sensation was released into the wild.
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs. InsertCoin is good too buy I didn't like Sense and there were a very versions very power-inefficient back when I switched away from it. Should be better by now, baad is a great chef.
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And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs.
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OK will check them and install one of them fallowing your advice. In your footnote you still got info you are on Insertcoin so i was thinking that is ROM that you are so happy about As I said Stock sucks, Coredroid - better but not much improvement, MIUI - disaster.
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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csd181 said:
Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Well, rooting will allow you to check for presence of Carrier IQ. (no, I have not yet rooted.)
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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What bugs? Can't you read? I clearly mention at least few and guess what Holmes there is a sticky about fixing touchscreen because it is such a common thing in those phones I can assure you that every single thing I mention here is not unique to my device, I recommend you try search option once in a while. About roms I hate sense and that is it, there is no serious alternative as far as I know unless coding one on my own is considered an akternative then yeach what a great mobile I have..... not. And its not about bashing custom rom programmers I respect their effort and admire there work but it is simple matter of fact that so far all the roms I tested where not half as good as for other HTC devices.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Lol. You CANNOT compare the wildfire to the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Go for it then for sure. I have found the sensation a decent device and trust it will get support or decent resell value to the avg. User. And minus the speaker being weak compared to the vibrant im happy enough if I got another vibrant cheap enough I might go back till something better on the market but this is much faster and smoother than my vibrant
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I am coming from a Vibrant 4g which had sort of fallen to the way side since it wasn't a very popular device so I have not been active on XDA for a super long time.
I just upgraded to HTC One S from T mobile, and I know the usual drill: read, read, read.
And I plan to do that, but i'm looking for the awesome community that I remember so well to offer a little starting point for me.
You see, the things that are common knowledge to you, are simply not common knowledge to me. They may first come up on page 100 of a super popular thread, that is now dead from growing too big.
I remember on my Vibrant, it was common knowledge that you could not enable a certain file system, until you followed a few steps. It was common knowledge, but lost to anyone knew, as it was buried 75 pages deep in popular ROM thread.
So I guess, I'm just looking for the proper nuggets of information on how to get started, how to root easily, what roms I should be looking into etc.
I remember that the one click Root for Vibrant started to become a problem and it was recommended to not try it. Anything similar here?
IN OTHER WORDS: TL;DR
Can anyone provide some insight and good threads about the following as a jump off point for an HTC newbie, and basically an XDA newbie,all over again?
Here's some topics:
Root? Best way to get root? Are there certain HTC ONE models I should make sure I have/do not have before proceeding?
Bloatware? Any installed apps I should ditch as soon as I get root? Any customizations that I should jump on asap? (ie: on vibrant, it was imperative to upgrade to a more accurate battery mod, to keep a better eye on battery levels)
Points/tips? (ie: on the vibrant, for some reason all roms had an issue with blurry MMS texts that was common knowledge, but if you didn't know, and can't live with blurry MMS texts, it was important info before customizing)
Basically, what ROMs are great on this phone? I'm not looking to test a new rom every few days. I want to install a badass one and leave it. I want good battery saving, good customization, awesome graphics, and stability and that will be the one I keep forever. I'll really value any opinions on ROM and customizing in general.
thanks so much. You are providing some peace of mind for a newb in just about every sense of the word, except the one that matters..I aint a newb!
First things first, do you have an s4 or s3 model? All of the tweaks (root, ect) do not work yet on the s3.
+1 Determining which model you have is critical, If you do have the S4 model check here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24884624&postcount=3
He has the s4, T-Mobile doesn't sell the s3 model.
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xxquicksh0txx said:
He has the s4, T-Mobile doesn't sell the s3 model.
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Seriously? How did u know that will it stay like that too ? Where they only sell s4?
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First things first, do you have an s4 or s3 model? All of the tweaks (root, ect) do not work yet on the s3.
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i've looked everywhere but i can't find the thread on how to tell.
i guess i'll go google and brb
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+1 Determining which model you have is critical, If you do have the S4 model check here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24884624&postcount=3
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i'll tell you that the All in One toolkit successfully rooted, so that should mean S4 right?
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First things first, do you have an s4 or s3 model? All of the tweaks (root, ect) do not work yet on the s3.
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i honestly cannot find anything concrete on determining if it's S3 or S4.
Easiest way is to check the box. S4 chip is 1.5GHz, S3 chip is 1.7GHz. If root took, then you have the S4. If you run quadrant, S4 chips come in at 4500-5100 stock, S3 chips come in at 3000-4000 stock.
k1llacanon said:
Seriously? How did u know that will it stay like that too ? Where they only sell s4?
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HTC announced that the HOS S3 version will sell only in limited markets in Asia and Europe, not the US, and certainly not t-mobile. It will cause added complications for HTC while upgrading the OS to have two different variants for t-mobile.
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loogielv said:
I am coming from a Vibrant 4g which had sort of fallen to the way side since it wasn't a very popular device so I have not been active on XDA for a super long time.
I just upgraded to HTC One S from T mobile, and I know the usual drill: read, read, read.
And I plan to do that, but i'm looking for the awesome community that I remember so well to offer a little starting point for me.
You see, the things that are common knowledge to you, are simply not common knowledge to me. They may first come up on page 100 of a super popular thread, that is now dead from growing too big.
I remember on my Vibrant, it was common knowledge that you could not enable a certain file system, until you followed a few steps. It was common knowledge, but lost to anyone knew, as it was buried 75 pages deep in popular ROM thread.
So I guess, I'm just looking for the proper nuggets of information on how to get started, how to root easily, what roms I should be looking into etc.
I remember that the one click Root for Vibrant started to become a problem and it was recommended to not try it. Anything similar here?
IN OTHER WORDS: TL;DR
Can anyone provide some insight and good threads about the following as a jump off point for an HTC newbie, and basically an XDA newbie,all over again?
Here's some topics:
Root? Best way to get root? Are there certain HTC ONE models I should make sure I have/do not have before proceeding?
Bloatware? Any installed apps I should ditch as soon as I get root? Any customizations that I should jump on asap? (ie: on vibrant, it was imperative to upgrade to a more accurate battery mod, to keep a better eye on battery levels)
Points/tips? (ie: on the vibrant, for some reason all roms had an issue with blurry MMS texts that was common knowledge, but if you didn't know, and can't live with blurry MMS texts, it was important info before customizing)
Basically, what ROMs are great on this phone? I'm not looking to test a new rom every few days. I want to install a badass one and leave it. I want good battery saving, good customization, awesome graphics, and stability and that will be the one I keep forever. I'll really value any opinions on ROM and customizing in general.
thanks so much. You are providing some peace of mind for a newb in just about every sense of the word, except the one that matters..I aint a newb!
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Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1531
and read all the stickies
Just check your fastboot screen if it says "vle" its s4. If it says "villec2" or something lie that its s3.
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i'll tell you that the All in One toolkit successfully rooted, so that should mean S4 right?
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Yup, there is no way to root a s3 model right now.
And T-Mobile does not sell the s3 model, and probably won't sell it.
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For roms I would tell you to flash everything and see what you like working with. If you don't have the time or want to do that I would recommend trickdroid. Its fast, snappy, stable, and free of bloat which is nice if you don't have or use titanium backup. If you like a custom stock rom go with Torxx's rom. Its my go to rom. I always keep a nandroid of it handy.
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Am I crazy for thinking it's ridiculous that they got a bunch of us to buy this phone based on their developer friendly promise, and still haven't given us S-off and full control/access to hotboot? Has anyone else emailed them a nasty letter about it? I know I've sent them multiple, but nothing appears to be changing except they are getting more aggressive about locking down hotboot with every update! I just sent them another email, but unless they get smothered in them, I doubt we'll ever see their "developer friendly" promise fulfilled...
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MadJoe said:
Am I crazy for thinking it's ridiculous that they got a bunch of us to buy this phone based on their developer friendly promise, and still haven't given us S-off and full control/access to hotboot? Has anyone else emailed them a nasty letter about it? I know I've sent them multiple, but nothing appears to be changing except they are getting more aggressive about locking down hotboot with every update! I just sent them another email, but unless they get smothered in them, I doubt we'll ever see their "developer friendly" promise fulfilled...
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I used to love HTC with a passion before getting this phone. Ever since, I have been slowly turned against them. Don't get me wrong! The build quality on all of my 3 HTC's is far past superb, it's the software / support side where they lost my love. This is my first phone with Sense and it will be the last. I dislike how long it takes them to roll out an update and I further despise the new Sense 4+ with lack of software support / compatibility, terrible USB MTP connecting, and many other gripes.
But don't worry. This phone can still be amazing. Get TWRP recovery and flash CM10 / CM10.1 (coming soon) and all is well for me. Thank the Android god for AOSP. The no S-OFF issue does not bother me. I am able to flash CM without connecting to the PC (I'm on HBOOT 1.06 or whatever, stock from T-Mo circa late May 2012) sans the time you need to to install TWRP.
EDIT: A further reason why I began harping on Sense: Sense used to be the most customizable, elegant version of Android. Now they are taking some of that away and assuming their own customization without regard for their users. One example is the homescreen not supporting scrolling. I also believe the current Sense 4+ look is dated compared to the now smooth looking stock Android JB.
However, some of the leaked 'Sense 5' images look convincing to add a nice simplistic, smooth, and nicely unique / modern feeling back to Sense. Let's just wait to see the final outcome...
I agree the hardware is amazing, if you forget about the lack of SD card support, and inability to access the battery. The GPS is the best I've ever used. But the ridiculous process that is required just to do something simple like flash a new kernel, is what's really pissing me off. I can't make heads or tails of the flash process because there's 3 different ways or more depending on which hotboot you have. My Galaxy S was stupid-simple to flash anything, but it was laggy and the GPS sucked. Can't win, I guess.
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